At 1/12/08 02:04 AM, Rokuro wrote: Dio is old school Power Metal, Irish. Lol

I'd think that Dio is more in the vein of Iron Maiden. They gave a shitload of influence to power metal bands, but they're not power themselves.

Then again, with such albums as 'Master of the Moon' the word 'epic' springs to mind and therefore causes the words 'power metal' to spring to mind.

At 1/12/08 02:04 AM, Rokuro wrote: Dio is Classic, Irish. Lol

That's what I've been saying.

Wait Funk, What Genre would my Audio Fit in?
:P

Lolz I ar original.

here funk, i know its frustrating when people put the label before the music itself, but genres are just a necessary evil that makes it easier for people to find out music thats to their liking. although true its also a marketing tool used by greedy bastards to put hype into a certain group of bands. the bands and artists i respect most and influence me; pink floyd, the melvins, king crimson, frank zappa, tool etc. etc. are all people who use their own open-mindedness to make music that goes further than just the category theyre put under.

At 1/11/08 09:59 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

It makes me depressed and angry to see things in such a state. You guys don't want metal to end up like the blues, do you?

im intrested in what you mean by this, explain.

Oh well, others did it:

Metal:

Black (only a bit of it)
Classic
Death (more melodic/progressive)
Folk
Power
Progressive
Speed
Thrash

Others:

Alternative Rock (only a bit of it)
Classic Rock
Hard Rock
Progressive Rock
Nobuo Uematsu

At 1/12/08 04:56 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I'd think that Dio is more in the vein of Iron Maiden. They gave a shitload of influence to power metal bands, but they're not power themselves.

What's what I think about Dio. I think they have a more classic metal sound like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, but have been influential towards power metal.

Metal

Ambient Black
Epic Black
Death
Tech Death
Brutal Death
Folk
Neo-Classical (occasionally gets to repetitive)
Doom
Viking
Pwnage (e.g helfor and bonemill and kiddmeizter)
Thrash
Mello-Death
Progressive

Others

Jazz
Classical
Funk
Oldies
Old school rap (occasionally)
Big band (its hilarious)
Blues
Epic Stuff like Carl Orff. (I think it may fall under classical)

Thats about it.

NOW ANYONE KNOW OF ANY BANDS LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY BLACK METAL REQUEST???? Geez Louis.

After fighting many dull moments of not posting, Mr Bumpman has returned.

At 1/12/08 10:40 AM, Bonemill wrote: Big band (its hilarious)

I take offense to that >:(

jk

At 1/10/08 11:33 PM, Rokuro wrote:

Black metal:
Job For a Cowboy

NOT BLACK METAL! YOU = BIG FAIL!!!!

Me and this guy from Ireland are making a internet radio show for metal :).

Each episode is going to be about 30 minutes long and we are uploading them to rapidshare.

Here is the link hope you guys like it :)

At 1/12/08 02:39 PM, smeagol1 wrote: YOU = BIG FAIL!!!!

That wasn't really nessecary to a joke, now was it?

At 1/12/08 04:44 PM, Bonemill wrote: Me and this guy from Ireland are making a internet radio show for metal :).

It's even more metal because it's half Irish.

Each episode is going to be about 30 minutes long and we are uploading them to rapidshare.

Here is the link hope you guys like it :)

Sounds pretty kewl.

At 1/12/08 05:00 PM, IrishGun wrote: It's even more metal because it's half bonemill.

fixed.

At 1/12/08 05:03 PM, Bonemill wrote:

At 1/12/08 05:00 PM, IrishGun wrote: It's even more metal because it's half bonemill.

fixed.

Yeah, that too.

If only it was half me. 50+ metal points.

At 1/12/08 08:10 AM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Wait Funk, What Genre would my Audio Fit in?

P

Lolz I ar original.

Don't make me stab you.

At 1/12/08 09:36 AM, mrdurgan wrote: i respect most and influence me; pink floyd, the melvins, king crimson, frank zappa, tool etc. etc. are all people who use their own open-mindedness to make music that goes further than just the category theyre put under.

Then why would anyone want to make any other kind of music? Inventing NEW categories is the fun part. There's a MILLION different kinds of jazz none of us give a shit about, simply because we assume we know what it sounds like just by the word "jazz"

At 1/11/08 09:59 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

im intrested in what you mean by this, explain.

I mean where people just fill in a stereotype, buy a bunch of studio time, toe the genre line, and get their 3 minutes of fame. You saw The Crossroads, with Ralph Maccio and Steve Vai, right? Do you really want to wake up one day and have the best metal guitar player being some rich boy faggot who bought his way in with his daddy's money to go slum it up on the metal scene?

When you learn by studying others, you end up sounding like them. Guys who pay for lessons always end up sounding lame and stock for this very reason: they buy their way in, steal a bunch of riffs, and sit around acting like pompous know it alls even though they haven't played gig one.

The blues is a perfect example, where all of the genre was broken down into the pentatonic scale and an eight bar chord progression, with "fill in depressing story here" for lyrics. Do you want to see metal broken down into minor scales with powerchords over a blast beat? I know I sure don't.

At 1/12/08 05:52 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 1/12/08 08:10 AM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Wait Funk, What Genre would my Audio Fit in?

P

Lolz I ar original.

You are entitled to an opinion.

At 1/12/08 09:36 AM, mrdurgan wrote: king crimson

best band that ever existed

At 1/12/08 07:43 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

You are entitled to an opinion.

pwned!

At 1/12/08 05:52 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: When you learn by studying others, you end up sounding like them. Guys who pay for lessons always end up sounding lame and stock for this very reason: they buy their way in, steal a bunch of riffs, and sit around acting like pompous know it alls even though they haven't played gig one.

Okay, that's just a bunch of bullshit. There's absolutely nothing wrong with getting lessons on an instrument. I don't give a fuck if you're a mod or not, but you're wrong. Sometimes people just can't learn by themselves, Mr. Virtuoso. I'm taking lessons on the clarinet and sax, that doesn't mean I'm stealing all my ability and technique from them. It's important to have someone show the ropes to a new player, otherwise they'll sound even worse. I'd be total shit on the sax/clarinet if it weren't for my teachers, especially my jazz sax. If it weren't for my teacher, I wouldn't know how to use all the jazz techniques I've learned about.

The blues is a perfect example, where all of the genre was broken down into the pentatonic scale and an eight bar chord progression, with "fill in depressing story here" for lyrics. Do you want to see metal broken down into minor scales with powerchords over a blast beat? I know I sure don't.

First off, the blues scale isn't pentatonic. Secondly, blues isn't always eight bars. It's often 12 bars, or 16. Thirdly, it wasn't "broken down," that's just the way blues is. That's how musical theory is, at the heart of every genre is a certain chord progression, a certain way of doing things. If a classical composer decides to do jazz while still using that jazz mentality, it will fail because classical and jazz are completely different at their core. I know what you're saying here, but the truth is is that blues is the blues scale and a chord change taking up a certain amount of bars.

So that's what's great about experimental, and that's why i listen to it. They say "fuck it" and basically eschew the general standard way of doing metal/blues/jazz/rock, whatever.

At 1/12/08 08:05 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 1/12/08 07:43 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

You are entitled to an opinion.

pwned!

Pwned indeed.

Also, has anyone got any recommendations for fast Celtic Metal? Because all the bands I've listened to up until now are always Doom/Black-Celtic fusion. Which I have no problem with, it's just that I'm used to really fast shit.

Guys!
You need to go to this topic.
'Nuff said.

At 1/13/08 04:48 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Also, has anyone got any recommendations for fast Celtic Metal? Because all the bands I've listened to up until now are always Doom/Black-Celtic fusion. Which I have no problem with, it's just that I'm used to really fast shit.

try these guys think dark tranquillity but remove the synthey bits and replace with nice folky bits

pantera,metallica,slayer,cannibal corpse,dethklock,ministry,nile,nekrophas t,hatebreed,lamb of god.

At 1/13/08 07:23 AM, deathstar77 wrote: pantera,

Yes.

metallica,

Yes.

slayer,

Yes.

cannibal corpse,

Yes.

dethklock,

There's no c. Not sure because they're not real.

ministry,

I don't know, I looked them up, and it said Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal, Thrash Metal, Synthpop(early). Not sure if Alternative is, because pretty much every Nu-Metal band is. And because of Synthpop, I'ma say no. Is Industrial considered metal?

nile,

:D

hatebreed,

...

lamb of god.

...

At 1/12/08 07:43 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

At 1/12/08 05:52 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 1/12/08 08:10 AM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Wait Funk, What Genre would my Audio Fit in?

P

Lolz I ar original.

You are entitled to an opinion.

I lawl'd.

At 1/13/08 07:23 AM, deathstar77 wrote: nile

He has my vote.

At 1/13/08 08:35 AM, IrishGun wrote:

ministry,

I don't know, I looked them up, and it said Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal, Thrash Metal, Synthpop(early). Not sure if Alternative is, because pretty much every Nu-Metal band is. And because of Synthpop, I'ma say no. Is Industrial considered metal?

They are considered a Yes here. You may remember a few of the member's here were hyped to hear of the release The Last Sucker by them quite some pages back.

MA Page

At 1/12/08 05:52 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

When you learn by studying others, you end up sounding like them. Guys who pay for lessons always end up sounding lame and stock for this very reason: they buy their way in, steal a bunch of riffs, and sit around acting like pompous know it alls even though they haven't played gig one.

that really depends on the tutor and the pupil. some tutors are really strict & get their pupils to imitate what they play down to the last note so basically just creating a bunch of clones. thankfully ive never had that problem, any tutors ive had have encouraged me to find out what i want to learn for my self, giving me technical 'guidance' more than anything.

*ignores the arguments here*

At 1/12/08 08:04 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/12/08 09:36 AM, mrdurgan wrote: king crimson

best band that ever existed

Would it be wrong to say that Emerson, Lake & Palmer are better than King Crimson? That's what I think right now.

fuck i've missed this place

At 1/13/08 08:35 AM, IrishGun wrote:

ministry,

I don't know, I looked them up, and it said Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal, Thrash Metal, Synthpop(early). Not sure if Alternative is, because pretty much every Nu-Metal band is. And because of Synthpop, I'ma say no. Is Industrial considered metal?

Do you remember IrishGun, that only horsemen can let people in?

Also, Ministry is more metal than every single metalcore band put together. Their early incarnation was synthpop (meh), but they turned slowly, but surely, into a metal act. Industrial by itself is by no means metal, however, Industrial Metal is well, metal. I thought that was obvious enough. Now they're sort of a mix between thrash and industrial.

At 1/13/08 11:59 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Do you remember IrishGun, that only horsemen can let people in?

Yes, I was just saying my opinion on his list.

Also, Ministry is more metal than every single metalcore band put together. Their early incarnation was synthpop (meh), but they turned slowly, but surely, into a metal act. Industrial by itself is by no means metal, however, Industrial Metal is well, metal. I thought that was obvious enough. Now they're sort of a mix between thrash and industrial.

I was curious, there's around 1 Industrial Metal band I like.