At 1/11/08 01:06 PM, IrishGun wrote: However, I must agree that Finntroll are Black metal.

what? how can you say that..? on what basis has this opinion been formed i wish to see evidence to support your theory...

in other news outside of metal i listen to:

(some) Trance (very little currently)
Ambient
Rock (again very little)

I'm pretty sure we've already done this, like, twice. But here goes
Metal:
Heavy Metal
Celtic Metal
Black Metal
Power Metal
Metalcore
Nu Metal (Yes, I went there.)
Thrash Metal
Progressive Metal (very, very little)
Death Metal
Melodic Death Metal
Symphonic Metal
Technical Death Metal
Deathcore
Neo-Classical Metal
EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME Power Metal

Others:
Punk Rock
Pop Punk
Hard Rock
Classic Rock
Blues Rock
Blues
Comedy Rock
Folk
Classical (some)

Music that I would express interest in writing/have written:
Power Ballads
Deathcore
Power Metal
An absurd hybrid genre that crosses the screamed vocals and overall agressiveness of thrashcore with the lyrical themes and traditional (thank you Kidd) composition of power metal.

Yep, that's it.

ok i couldnt resist-

doom
sludge
stoner
drone
black
thrash
melodic death (a bit)
grunge
rock
post-rock
alt rock
folk rock
prog rock
krautrock
psychedelic
experimental
jazz rock/fusion
jazz
blues
folk (american, scottish, irish, english & some other european)
punk
hardcore punk & some post-hardcore
singer/songwriter
electronic (not much)
hip-hop (again, not much. mainly just cypress hill)
indian
classical (mainly baroque)

oh yeh i forgot classical as well :S and in extra other news i will be going to see Behemoth in Feb, the good news is that the tickets only cost £14 and the venue is 5 mins down the road so no money spent on transport and more on merch :P

Lol Ryan, You don't listen to Viking, Black, Or death metal to any extent nearly.

anyway:
Avantgarde
Black metal
Blackened Death Metal
Death metal
Technical Death metal
Melodic Death metal
Folk Metal
Viking Metal
Grindcore
Goregrind
Thrash Metal
Prog. Metal
symphonic Black metal
Goth Metal
Doom metal
Stoner metal
Pornogrind
Heavy Metal
Industrial Metal (Only ministry really though)
Ithyphalllic Metal (lol Nile, You'll get away with it this time)
post-Thrash
Post-black
Speed Metal
Slam Death
Drone Metal (lolz Sunn O))) )

outside of Metal:
Classical
Ambient
Dark Ambient
Goth rock
Rock
Hard Rock
Hardcore Techno
Folk
Drum And bass
Darkcore
Funk
Some Soul
Blues
Very little Jazz

I have no explanation for my shit music taste.
lolz kidding, Techno > j00.

Metal: (in order of preference)

Death
Thrash
Melodic Death
Groove
Technical Death
Traditional
Folk
Viking
Doom
Black
Progressive
Grindcore

Outside of metal:
Hard Rock
Metalcore
Classic Rock
Celtic/Viking/Native American/whatever music
Classical

At 1/11/08 03:19 PM, Lost-Thought wrote: Metal: (in order of preference)

I only listed ones I like 2 or more bands/artists in

Im skipping my metal list, cause its pretty much everything but sludge, stoner or most those types

For other types of music:

Trip Hop
Some Electronica
Indie
Classic Rock
Classical
Alternative/alternative rock

However, my indie and trip hop selection is very very vague.
A lot have electronica influence with jazz vocalists, or eastern/bulgarian/asian elements, some with orchestras, and some just kinda fall into this 'chillout' genre that's just as vague.
I like those two genres cause they normally has a taste of several other genres.
Like Universal Hall pass, lots of jazz eastern and bulgarian elements, but some songs just leap to different types of sounds in theme.
Or Mocheeba which really leans on the jazz side but with a lot of modern elements instrumentally.
Then there is someone like the Zutons who Iunno what genre they are really. I guess alternative and indie, but sax = win either way.
Or Blonde Redhead. They're just weird.
Iunno how to tag a lot of my 'other' music, but i know a lot get thrown into trip hop, so I just label it all that, but most bands sound very different from another and use very different techniques and sounds.

At 1/11/08 03:11 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Lol Ryan, You don't listen to Viking, Black, Or death metal to any extent nearly.

To say I barely listen to death is pretty inaccurate.

At 1/11/08 03:33 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 1/11/08 03:11 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Lol Ryan, You don't listen to Viking, Black, Or death metal to any extent nearly.

To say I barely listen to death is pretty inaccurate.

What?
George Fisher CC's cover of Metallica's No remorse?
Or Die Apokashitziken Reiter, With stuff like the Totally BREWTAL album All you need is love ?
One Song by beneath the Massacre? X'D

And then Besides A few Bolt thrower Plays, there's nothing more, With more than 9 plays, Which would go above slipknot on your last.fm.

:Don't give me that "I turn off Scrobbling" shit.

At 1/11/08 03:24 PM, ShitOnAStick wrote:

A lot have electronica influence with jazz vocalists, or eastern/bulgarian/asian elements, some with orchestras, and some just kinda fall into this 'chillout' genre that's just as vague.

ooooo interesting, if you like indian music at all look up talvin singh, very cool spacey indo-electronica. he's an amazing drummer too.

At 1/11/08 03:40 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote:

At 1/11/08 03:33 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 1/11/08 03:11 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Lol Ryan, You don't listen to Viking, Black, Or death metal to any extent nearly.

To say I barely listen to death is pretty inaccurate.

blarg.blarg.blarg.

Ok, think about this. Think about this for one second... Why are you antagonising me, when you could be doing something productive?

At 1/11/08 03:44 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
Ok, think about this. Think about this for one second... Why are you antagonising me, when you could be doing something productive?

Because you're an Asshole, You're wrong, I'm Right, and your hypocrisy and lies have annoyed me far too much.

How the fuck did you get in the Hell with Play Axel Rudi Pell
Almost only Nu Metallica
only New Cannibal Corpse
Trivium
DragonForce
Nightwish
Lordi
Demon Hunter

in your top ten srsly.

ok i got bored and got a list of all the bands etc i listen to, it took 9 screenshots to put this all together :S

ultimate list

At 1/11/08 04:13 PM, Charon wrote: ok i got bored and got a list of all the bands etc i listen to, it took 9 screenshots to put this all together :S

ultimate list

apologies, ultimate song to go with the list, this is a must listen for anyone who claims to like black metal as Peste Noire are the best :P

At 1/11/08 04:29 PM, Charon wrote: , ultimate song

Me want.

At 1/11/08 05:30 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: Me want.

check your pms :)

At 1/10/08 11:33 PM, Rokuro wrote: Black metal:
Job For a Cowboy

Not black metal in the slightest. They are deathcore.

Death Metal:
As I Lay Dying

Not death: they are metalcore.

Genre genre genre genre genre genre genre....

YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS.

Bands stand out as INDIVIDUALS. Songs can have aspects from MANY genres, so arguing over what genre is what is like arguing whether or not a a prism spectrum is blue or red. It's a SPECTRUM, wide ranging, and SHOULDN'T be easily categorized into one color or type of color.

Being easily categorized is what makes songs sound stock and bland. Only the shittiest of the shitty "I shit on you" bands start by trying to sound like a genre, or worse, ANOTHER BAND.

What's the goddamn point of having music if there's other music already that sounds like that? How many different cover versions of Rain of Blood do there really need to be?

BTW, I was only popping in to whore out my metal submissions from my new band Strangled Blue, but FUCK you guys are fagging this place up worse than a martini spiked with meth and xstacy in a bar called "HOT GAY SEX CENTRAL"

At 1/11/08 08:08 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: bunch of bullshit

Ahem, a genre is a better way to classify the style you listen to. So we dont have to sift through a bunch of shit music to find some good stuff. Leave now, dumbass.

NOW, do any of you guys know of any good ambient/epic/emotion inducing black metal? Not the shit quality black metal that sounds like retards with a microphone in a trash can but the slower stuff?

I'm looking for the kind of stuff that when you close your eyes your in teh fr0stb1tt3n gr1m for3st and snow is falling and its dusk :). So good you can almost feel the cold :).

I dont know why but here recently (within the past three or four days actually) I have been craving this stuff. Sort of like agalloch mixed with nachtfalke's instrumental pieces.

Stuff like this not really BLACK metal but that kind of stuff.

At 1/11/08 08:52 PM, Bonemill wrote:

Ahem, a genre is a better way to classify the style you listen to. So we dont have to sift through a bunch of shit music to find some good stuff. Leave now, dumbass.

Sounds like someone wouldn't know composition from a hole in his ass.

*listens to audio submissions*

WELL DAMNED IF I WASN'T RIGHT!!!

All your shit sounds exactly the same... hmm.... I wonder why..... Lack of creativity? Close minded mindset towards what music should be? *GASP* SNOBBISH PREJUDICE?!?!?!?

Get fucking over yourself. Nothing's gayer than a bunch of faggots arguing over what stupid label to put on music the artists already gave an individual original title to.

Funk, other than to insult us, what was your purpose of posting? Or was that it? I'm sorry, but you didn't add much to conversation. Debating over genres and classification is what we do here, it may seem like little flame wars, but it's done in good fun and taste.

At 1/11/08 09:25 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 1/11/08 08:52 PM, Bonemill wrote:

All your shit sounds exactly the same... hmm.... I wonder why.....

OR could it possibly be that its because I play in the same genre???? Or have you also forgotten that most bands that play dont deter their sound from their own. I would like you to find me a band thats songs generally dont sound the same ;).

Honestly how can you tell me that Savn sounds the same as Dødslegge? Maybe your idiotic ears cannot concieve the difference between clean and distortion. OR could it be that your bands shit music has so much poisoned your ears that you cant comprehend what musicianship is. I restate, you good sir are a dumbass leave before we have you banned ;).

From now on I am ignoring you because I refuse to argue with idiots.

Idio, get on AIM if possible.

Anyone know about that black metal I requested?

At 1/11/08 09:39 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Funk, other than to insult us, what was your purpose of posting? Or was that it? I'm sorry, but you didn't add much to conversation. Debating over genres and classification is what we do here, it may seem like little flame wars, but it's done in good fun and taste.

argh...

I get into this all the time IRL, it's the reason why we had to get rid of my old lead singer Nubs, aka 7-fingered Dell.

All he wanted to do was bitch about classifications all day long, as opposed to musical execution. We all know EVERYTHING'S been done by SOMEONE before, but what makes metal good is they take a noisy, dirty sounding genre, and then EXECUTE so well it sounds good ANYWAY.

However, when you sit there and try and lable everything, you're taking the focus away from what's so enjoyable about metal: the idea that genre doesn't matter, musicianship does.

Basically, metal's about going to a fucking bar, having a fucking beer, blowing your last 10 bucks on a cd, and letting some random band from some place you've never heard of sleep in your floor. There's no room in that for prudish, prejudiced, closedminded attitudes. People with snobbish mindsets RUIN concerts, because they're so busy trying to figure out what musical clique they fit in they forget to let loose and fucking MOSH. Worse, they don't even show up to local shows and support the musicians they claim to love so much, because they don't want to be caught going to a show where a band that they don't consider (insert genre here) enough.

I see this shit all the time, and it smells like the downfall of something that can be really bad ass. Bitching about genres is the AIDS of metal. It makes metal heads look like whiny wine snobs instead of the hard-assed lifestyle that metal is supposed to embody. It's hypocritical, in the most judged and maligned music style EVER, to sit there and try and polarize everything you hear.

For instance, who in here knew the first song ever banned from american radio for explicit content was a JAZZ song called "Mack the Knife" made popular by Bobby Darin? I bet you guys don't even THINK jazz when you think "Explicit, violent lyrics" but THAT'S the genre that really opened the doors for us to do what we do today.

You have to understand, I'm out in the trenches, band practice EVERY day, spending all my money on equipment so I only get to go to the shows I'm on the bill for, getting shot at, getting beaten up, beating people up, and waking up on a concrete floor after 3 days of insomnia and blast beats. I've lost sensation in both my thumbs due to over a decade of drumming, severe hearing loss, and a polka dot mosaic of cigarette burns. Then I come in here, where people claim to be METAL, and it's the same damn shit all those folk music homos playing their bluegrass and protest songs are doing.

It makes me depressed and angry to see things in such a state. You guys don't want metal to end up like the blues, do you?

At 1/11/08 09:49 PM, Bonemill wrote:

:: OR could it possibly be that its because I play in the same genre???? Or have you also forgotten that most bands that play dont deter their sound from their own. I would like you to find me a band thats songs generally dont sound the same ;).

If by "in the same genre" you mean "stealing all my riffs from someone better than me" I guess I'd have to agree. Don't you want to aspire to being something better than a glorified jukebox with your guitar?

leave before we have you banned ;).

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

From now on I am ignoring you because I refuse to argue with idiots.

Thanks for telling me. Otherwise I wouldn't have noticed, and then how would I have given you a satisfactory response?

I personally dont argue over genres. Unless its nu or power.

I really like alot of various music except nu and power metal. I haven't been here in forever so I haven't been here really to argue over the genres.

It was just the whole you coming in and coming everyone faggots that started me off flaming..

I could understand that about a few people (looks at ryan).

If you had a problem with the genre's you should have just talked it out peacefully and stated your point.

BLACK METHULZ ANYONE???

At 1/11/08 10:06 PM, Bonemill wrote:

It was just the whole you coming in and coming everyone faggots that started me off flaming..

Dude, calling people faggots is like, 50% of what happens on the metal scene. Any time you get a bunch of sweaty dudes listening to music that scares chicks away, you're going to get faggots. You can only tell who the straight people are by checking to see if they call people faggots or not.

I could understand that about a few people (looks at ryan).

OOOooooooh, not just a few, man. I knew a band called Nocturnal Thought who didn't play a gig for FIVE YEARS because they stayed so busy trying to be the metal elite they didn't have any time to actual go to bars and play shows. They had a guitar player who's real name was Leif Ericson for crying out loud. My submission Enter the Blood Reich has both Leif AND 7-fingered Dell in it. I NEVER was able to get a gig with that line-up for the simple fact those guys spent so much time trying to figure out what genre their music was going to be from they never actually got around to writing fucking songs, because every time they'd get started, someone would claim something was too "this genre" or too "that genre". Shit was fucking infuriating.

If you had a problem with the genre's you should have just talked it out peacefully and stated your point.

On Newgrounds?! NOONE listens to well thought out arguments here!

I see where you're coming from FUNK. Anyway, I would just like to know some of your favorite bands.

At 1/11/08 10:52 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: I see where you're coming from FUNK. Anyway, I would just like to know some of your favorite bands.

I like a lot of local shit you guys have probably never heard of, like Burn the Masses, Legion of Divine Punishment, Sacrum, Thorax Hum, Cremains, Burial Within, and Evil Army.

As for more well known stuff, I like stuff like The Locust, Job For a Cowboy, Subterranean Fecal Root, Children of Bodom.

That being said, my tastes are really best expressed by the music I record rather than what I listen to. I try to listen to a lot of classical and off the wall stuff to keep my musical views fresh, and that means listening to a local independent radio station called WEVL 89.9 Memphis that has really RANDOM stuff, like world music, reggae, soul, blues, jazz, folk, and punk all jumbled together in two hour blocks programmed by the individual DJs. If you like listening to stuff you've never heard before and normally wouldn't be exposed to, it's great.

At 1/11/08 09:25 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Get fucking over yourself. Nothing's gayer than a bunch of faggots arguing over what stupid label to put on music the artists already gave an individual original title to.

That's the thing though man, when bands that clearly aren't Metal declare themselves to be Metal. That's when we debate over it. We do this civilized and in way to try and avoid hopeless flame wars.

The only genre's we really argue about the label on here are the -core's and Nu-Metal. The bands under these genre's are the ones that most often label themselves as Metal when they're not.

I do however have to agree to some extent with you here. It really does get pathetic when people have to have it so grim, dark and brutal to be considered Metal in there eyes that it just gets ridiculous.

We also try to have an open-minded outlook on music, just recently in the past few pages you can see some of the member's listing the genre's they listen to outside of Metal.