At 4/29/12 05:39 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 4/29/12 01:52 AM, chiefindomer wrote: Well the Ravens seem to be doing alright in the draft so far and I'll be interested to see how it works out. Feel sorry for Browns fans though, looks like they're getting screwed.

I'm sure they're used to it by now.

It's a miracle that a team like the Browns can have 4-6 wins every year despite roughly 90% of their roster either being glorified Arena League players, or 2nd rate cast-offs who have outplayed their usefulness to their old team. They're horrible, but almost every year, they miss out on the first pick, because they always win a few games they shouldn't.

I mean the good part of the Browns (if not the entire team) were sold to Baltimore, wrecked Couch's career, made stupid decisions after another, and their fans would think beating a good team a big deal to the point that they would chant "Overrated" in the regular season.

They really are in no position to say "overrated" to any good team they beat, because the only reason why they would beat a decent team the last few years is because they got lucky. The Browns are the football equivalent of the LA Clippers, a literal punching bag of a team with horrible management and a dwindling fanbase, and considering that other NFL doormat teams of the past, {Bengals, Lions, Rams and to a lesser extent, Titans.} are now playoff contenders, or at least have pieces to be one soon, it seems like Cleveland's future is very dim.

Even though he played for two teams I have a heavy dislike for, but still it took me by surprise.

R.I.P. Junior Seau

At 5/2/12 07:39 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Even though he played for two teams I have a heavy dislike for, but still it took me by surprise.

R.I.P. Junior Seau

I'm really shocked by that news. He was the face of the Chargers franchise and overall a good guy. I really don't know what drove him to suicide but it's really terrible that he felt the need to kill himself.

Also, add one to the '94 Chargers curse.

At 5/2/12 09:15 PM, reverend wrote:

I'm really shocked by that news. He was the face of the Chargers franchise and overall a good guy. I really don't know what drove him to suicide but it's really terrible that he felt the need to kill himself.

I know, even made a thread about it. The fact that someone who decides to be "edgy" or "realistic" was inevitable.

Just lurking in the forum and I found this.

Describes the Browns well, especially when an idiot thinks the only good player Brown has sucked, while ignoring the fact that his team mates blew and he's the only one in their o-line worth a salt.

Then again that's the Browns for you, also it was 2009 but it features a reputed troll so here is some entertainment for you.

Well I would like to see how Peyton Manning is going to fit into the whole scheme of things with the Broncos. I'm a huge Denver fan but honestly never have really liked Peyton that much. He is a really good quarterback I will give him that but have always thought his brother would get to be better then him.

At 5/15/12 08:41 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Describes the Browns well, especially when an idiot thinks the only good player Brown has sucked, while ignoring the fact that his team mates blew and he's the only one in their o-line worth a salt.

Even bad teams can have a Pro Bowl caliber player, just look at the 0-16 Lions a few years ago had Calvin Johnson. This is why I hate Browns fans, they seem to think that just because the team sucks, every player on the team is horrible, and the worst part is that they just accept whatever product is on the field, despite not getting any major free agent players and having horrible drafts. It's no wonder why they are the basement dwellers of the AFC North almost every year, and whipping boys of the league.

Then again that's the Browns for you, also it was 2009 but it features a reputed troll so here is some entertainment for you.

I lol'd. The sad thing is, nothing much has changed over the last 3 years or so for the Browns, same shit, different players.

At 5/15/12 11:19 PM, orangebomb wrote:

I lol'd. The sad thing is, nothing much has changed over the last 3 years or so for the Browns, same shit, different players.

Also, drafting a 28 year old prospect, I mean really? They might as well sign Steve Carrell while they're at it. If Weeden does well, he should be in consideration for "Comeback Player of the Year" even in rookie year, otherwise, what the hell was Holmgren thinking?

That was the same guy who build the 1990s Packers that contended for Super Bowl and won. Then again, Al Davis was a genius until after the 1980s.

On other note, the Giants ring ceremony starts tomorrow.

Hopefully they use platinum for the ring, but who knows?

White gold is still fine if otherwise.

2011 Super Bowl ring!

this topic have been deserted so I might as well ask something.

If you find someone who thinks Babin is better than JPP, what would you do?

At 5/28/12 09:39 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/26/12 02:30 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: If you find someone who thinks Babin is better than JPP, what would you do?

you tell em 'eagles suck'.

Only they would think a one trick pony would be better.

Also...

"Because it has nothing to do with me being butthurt over how they denied my team's quest for perfect season and I'm willing to ignore how their defense was wrecked with injuries last season and that the other teams in the same division has tons to issues as well."

But then again, the Giants could use this as a motivational tool.

At 6/7/12 01:48 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 5/28/12 09:39 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/26/12 02:30 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

But then again, the Giants could use this as a motivational tool.

Talk about disrespecting the champs even before the season starts, but I'm sure that it's obvious that they're used to that by now. I actually find it quite humorous that this guy would think that the Giants will finish last in their division, with a rookie QB in Washington who's essentially a Vince Young at best, Dallas with an overrated team, {as always} and the Eagles, who might as well be owned by Dan Snyder now considering how they get all those free agent players the last couple of years.

At 6/7/12 11:45 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 6/7/12 01:48 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 5/28/12 09:39 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/26/12 02:30 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

But then again, the Giants could use this as a motivational tool.

Talk about disrespecting the champs even before the season starts, but I'm sure that it's obvious that they're used to that by now. I actually find it quite humorous that this guy would think that the Giants will finish last in their division, with a rookie QB in Washington who's essentially a Vince Young at best, Dallas with an overrated team, {as always} and the Eagles, who might as well be owned by Dan Snyder now considering how they get all those free agent players the last couple of years.

The Giants are certainly not going to finish last in the division, that position is reserved for the Redskins, but I don't think they'll make the playoffs. I'm predicting a 9-7 season which in the NFC probably won't be enough to snatch up a wild card. If anyone will beat the Giants it will be the Eagles as they've usually played well against the Giants. That being said the Giants will probably win at least 4 or 5 of their divisional games because they always find a way when it comes to division games. The big thing for me is I just don't think they'll have quite what it takes to close out the tougher regular season games they'll be playing against teams like the Ravens, Packers, and 49ers. 9-7 might be enough to make the playoffs, even win the division if the Eagles play spectacularly mediocre, and if that happens then whatever doesn't ever seem to click for the Giants in the regular season is probably going to click again and they'll be 'underdogs' again.

However, I think the NFC Wild Card is going to be Chicago and Detroit/Seattle/New York. Green Bay will likely snatch up a 12 win season with an easy schedule, but most importantly they'll win in their division while the Bears will compete every step of the way and win at least 10 games. The last spot is a toss up between what I think, and kind of hope, will be a successful Seahawks campaign that sees them in division discussion up until the end of the season and they get 9 wins. That, or Detroit plays with a little more confidence and swagger and wins more games than they probably should and finds a way to make it happen.

However it plays out the NFC is still the strongest conference in the NFL and the playoff race is going to be tight but it won't matter because Buffalo is taking home the Lombardi trophy and from it we will drink of the tears of our battered foes.

At 6/7/12 11:45 PM, orangebomb wrote:

Talk about disrespecting the champs even before the season starts, but I'm sure that it's obvious that they're used to that by now. I actually find it quite humorous that this guy would think that the Giants will finish last in their division, with a rookie QB in Washington who's essentially a Vince Young at best, Dallas with an overrated team, {as always} and the Eagles, who might as well be owned by Dan Snyder now considering how they get all those free agent players the last couple of years.

Not to mention how the Eagles' regular season wins would be so hyped up that sometimes the people would act like it has a huge impact on the game itself. Though to be fair, the first "Miracle at Meadowlands" does have an impact, it led to Eagles becoming relevant for few years while the Giants made series of improvements that enable them to become SB contenders. The second "miracle"? Not so much aside from getting the Eagles tons of hype.

The Eagle fans and the analysts at NFL channel made it a big deal and in the end, the "impact" lasted for less than a year. The Eagles kinda reminds me of the pre-2004 Boston Red Sox in many ways, their fan base made it worse so that tells you something.

Then again, they need something to be proud of after 1960.

At 6/8/12 01:30 AM, Gobblemeister wrote:

At 6/7/12 11:45 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 6/7/12 01:48 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 5/28/12 09:39 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/26/12 02:30 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

However it plays out the NFC is still the strongest conference in the NFL and the playoff race is going to be tight but it won't matter because Buffalo is taking home the Lombardi trophy and from it we will drink of the tears of our battered foes.

Still driving the Bills bandwagon I see. Unfortunately for you, Tom Brady still plays for New England, and having a roster of players that tend to be inconsistent in terms of production, {Williams, Fitzpatrick and especially S. Johnson} Buffalo will most likely finish a distant second ahead of the Jets, who is trying to replace one fraudulent QB with a even worse one, and the Dolphins who are a joke, which leaves New England as the winners of the division by default.

At 6/8/12 11:53 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 6/8/12 01:30 AM, Gobblemeister wrote:

At 6/7/12 11:45 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 6/7/12 01:48 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 5/28/12 09:39 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/26/12 02:30 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

However it plays out the NFC is still the strongest conference in the NFL and the playoff race is going to be tight but it won't matter because Buffalo is taking home the Lombardi trophy and from it we will drink of the tears of our battered foes.

Still driving the Bills bandwagon I see. Unfortunately for you, Tom Brady still plays for New England, and having a roster of players that tend to be inconsistent in terms of production, {Williams, Fitzpatrick and especially S. Johnson} Buffalo will most likely finish a distant second ahead of the Jets, who is trying to replace one fraudulent QB with a even worse one, and the Dolphins who are a joke, which leaves New England as the winners of the division by default.

The offense is definitely inconsistent but if our defense can stay healthy they'll be able to make up for it. The problem last season was that regardless of whether the offense was good that week or not the defense was allowing upwards of 30 points a game for some stretches. Aside from the Broncos game and the Redskins game the Bills D did little to cover for the offense and virtually any team worth their salt needs a good defense above all like in the AFC North where QBs like Dalton and Flacco turn it over more often than the elite QBs but their teams still win because the defense is more than able to make the stop or get the ball back. That's what the Bills need to start doing. I'm glad we're getting the JEST week 1 because the result of our first game against them will be a driving factor in how the rest of the season plays out. If we win we'll immediately have a division win under our belt, and some momentum and given how drama riddled and overall mediocre the JEST are looking this offseason they're definitely not going to be their best Week 1. If we're lucky one win will send that whole house of Joker Cards crumbling to the ground.

I'm hoping for a 9-10 win season that sees us in the Wild Card against either the Texans or the Bengals.

At 6/9/12 03:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

I'm hoping for a 9-10 win season that sees us in the Wild Card against either the Texans or the Bengals.

I'd love to see Cincinnati make back-to-back playoff appearances for the first since the early 1980s, but I fear that if the Bengals don't get a strong start (Either going 8-0 or 7-1 in their first eight games) that they won't have a chance at getting back to the playoffs. The last part of Cincinnati's schedule is brutal and I'm not sure if they're good enough to take down the Ravens or Steelers consistently and win the division. Plus, they're going to be playing both Manning brothers and the Eagles, so they'll struggle.

SO, I'm hoping it all works out, but I'm not guaranteeing it. This really will be the year for the Bengals to step up and prove they're a force to be reckoned with in the the NFL.

Well it's finally summer and that means fantasy football, not sure if there is going to be an ng league or whatever, but I renewed my "bro football" league again and there's a bunch of open slots, so if anyone's down to join, that'd be cool, I deleted all the teams from last year so there shouldn't be a problem with yahoo reserving spots for pending renewal requests or whatever. Anyways, if anyone's down for a fantasy league, it's on yahoo, basically their standard settings, except I made it IDP, so you have to pick like Ray Lewis, instead of Baltimore Ravens Team Defense, for example.

League ID#: 39611
League Name: Bro Football
Password: dudes
Custom League URL: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/hardmans
Draft Type: Live Standard Draft
Draft Time: Sun Jul 29 6:15pm EDT

The draft time I just sort of picked at random, so it can probably be changed, but I like it to keep it on a Sunday night, because its easy to remember and the chances of having something else come up, when planning this far in advance are least likely on Sunday :/

Also, yeah, GOOD PLAN BROWNS; "ESPN Cleveland reported the Browns were keen to find McCoy a "new team, a new opportunity, to spare him the ignominy of being released." McCoy's market has been dead silent since the draft..."

At 6/19/12 02:39 PM, EternitySpent wrote: Also, yeah, GOOD PLAN BROWNS; "ESPN Cleveland reported the Browns were keen to find McCoy a "new team, a new opportunity, to spare him the ignominy of being released." McCoy's market has been dead silent since the draft..."

I'll said it before, and I'll say it again. The Browns is the worst ran franchise in the NFL, and possibly in American sports, and it's because they don't bother to do any research on players, and do stupid shit in general all the time. Cleveland is just begging for an 0-16 season this year, and they will deserve it.

For his sake, I do hope that McCoy does get out of Cleveland, because they have done nothing to help him at all.

At 6/19/12 10:42 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 6/19/12 02:39 PM, EternitySpent wrote:

For his sake, I do hope that McCoy does get out of Cleveland, because they have done nothing to help him at all.

I've always thought McCoy was like David Carr 2.0, plenty of talent but spends most of the game on his back because of inept protection and poor receivers. The sad fact of it is that apparently the Browns didn't learn from what happened to Carr and it's very likely McCoy's career is going to end just the same as Carr's has. He's a better player than this and doesn't deserve it. Maybe Jacksonville will give him a call and he might have a chance to make something for himself.

At 6/20/12 01:22 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

I've always thought McCoy was like David Carr 2.0, plenty of talent but spends most of the game on his back because of inept protection and poor receivers. The sad fact of it is that apparently the Browns didn't learn from what happened to Carr and it's very likely McCoy's career is going to end just the same as Carr's has. He's a better player than this and doesn't deserve it. Maybe Jacksonville will give him a call and he might have a chance to make something for himself.

They didn't even learn from what they did to Couch so it's not all that surprising. Any promising QBs will turn into a bust because of the awful team.

Elway's probably the only one I can think of who could survive the non-protection.

At 6/20/12 01:22 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

Maybe Jacksonville will give him a call and he might have a chance to make something for himself.

It's a sad thing when the Jags are the team you're hoping to join. Those guys are gonna get walloped this season...

At 6/20/12 04:49 PM, ZJ wrote:

At 6/20/12 01:22 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

Maybe Jacksonville will give him a call and he might have a chance to make something for himself.

It's a sad thing when the Jags are the team you're hoping to join. Those guys are gonna get walloped this season...

Also, getting stuck as a back up to Gabbert.

At 6/20/12 04:49 PM, ZJ wrote:

At 6/20/12 01:22 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

Maybe Jacksonville will give him a call and he might have a chance to make something for himself.

It's a sad thing when the Jags are the team you're hoping to join. Those guys are gonna get walloped this season...

The only positives about Jacksonville is that they have Maruice Jones-Drew and a suprisingly decent defense, but that's not saying very much though. The Jags will most likely fight it out with the Colts, Browns and possibly the Vikings for next year's number 1 pick, although 3 out of 4 of those teams already have a starting QB, although I suspect that Gabbert is going to have a very short leash. I'll save my divisional predictions for later, but I think I know where I'm going with some teams.

Looks like Brandon Weeden should've stuck to playing baseball.

At 6/20/12 09:28 PM, orangebomb wrote: I suspect that Gabbert is going to have a very short leash. I'll save my divisional predictions for later, but I think I know where I'm going with some teams.

Which is pretty unfair.

When developing QBs, the timetable should be three years. When it comes to how Gabbert was practically thrown into the belly of the beast, what do the Jags expect would happen?

No wonder why busts happens.

At 6/20/12 10:32 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 6/20/12 09:28 PM, orangebomb wrote: I suspect that Gabbert is going to have a very short leash. I'll save my divisional predictions for later, but I think I know where I'm going with some teams.

Which is pretty unfair.

I agree with that. The problem is that when you see QBs like Matt Ryan, Cam Newton and even Andy Dalton do so well in their rookie seasons, teams are naturally going to be more impatient than in the past to see their own rookie QBs can stand out. Most teams tend to be paranoid about the QB position, and don't want to risk setting their franchise even farther back, unless it's absolutely necessary.

When developing QBs, the timetable should be three years. When it comes to how Gabbert was practically thrown into the belly of the beast, what do the Jags expect would happen?

In Jacksonville's case, they really didn't had much of a choice, considering that they did get rid of Garrard for whatever reason last season, and after their first string quarterback stunk it up, they had no choice but to go to the rookie. In a perfect world, a rookie QB wouldn't be starting unless they were supremely talented or the veteran goes down with and injury before the season.

No wonder why busts happens.

Well, some of them tend to be busts by themselves, {Ryan Leif, Jamarcus Russell.} or because they're were on expansion teams with no expectations, {Tim Couch, David Carr.} but all in all, it's true.

At 6/20/12 11:41 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 6/20/12 10:32 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 6/20/12 09:28 PM, orangebomb wrote:

In Jacksonville's case, they really didn't had much of a choice, considering that they did get rid of Garrard for whatever reason last season

I thought Garrard retired because of injuries. I know he pretty much sat the whole season out because of some injury or another.

That being said Gabbert really started to improve near the end of last season, actually throwing more TD's that INT's! Jacksonville will probably sign someone just to 'put some heat' under Gabbert so he'll be pressured into playing better (which almost never works). The AFC South is a relatively weak division, in comparison with each other the Texans and Titans come out OK but in the scope of the league it's not very much to look at, Jacksonville could easily steal a few games and surprise with a decent record but they won't be moving mountains this season and MJD isn't going to be happy there for long.

Sucks to be a Jags fan these days.

Ok, I was going through the "5 in, 5 out" that NFL Live was going over, and I get the fact that there is a lot of turnover over the last 15 years or so when it comes to playoff teams, but on some of them, I just had to go WTF on some of them, here's the list.

Buffalo Bills: Really? Mario Williams has got to be one of the most underperforming defensive players in a long time, seriously. 1 winning season under his belt in Houston, and he breaks down a lot, not to mention that the Texans didn't miss that much last year, when they had one the best defensive units last year. Plus, Fitzpatrick is still the QB, who's shaky at best, Stevie Johnson who vastly overrated and can't catch when it matters most, Fred Jackson who's 30 years old and a bunch of second tier rejects can't hang with New England.

San Diego Chargers: The only good news for them is that they play in the shittiest division in all of football, the AFC West, so they have just as good of a shot as anyone in that division.

Chicago Bears: Makes sense, enough said.

Dallas Cowboys: People need to stop mentioning these guys when it comes to playoffs. They're not as talented as everyone thinks they are, and Tony Romo is still the QB, who's good but not great, never mind the fact that they get their asses handed to by the Giants and Eagles almost every year to begin with, and barely beat the Foreskins as well. I don't see the NFC East having 3 teams in the playoffs this year.

Philadelphia Eagles: Honestly, I would be shocked if they don't make it to the playoffs with that roster they have right now. Now how far they go is a different story, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Now I can't wait to see who's going to be the 5 teams that are going to be out by these guys, because I think I have an idea on who's it's going to be.

I also don't really get why the media is infatuated with the Cowboys... they are just a team that are always on the cusp, but any success they have is usually Romo getting lucky.

The Bills have me confused though. I still don't know why their season got off to such a good start last year, and also why it tanked later on. I have no idea what happened. Do they sill have C.J. Spiller?

At 6/29/12 11:21 PM, orangebomb wrote: Ok, I was going through the "5 in, 5 out" that NFL Live was going over, and I get the fact that there is a lot of turnover over the last 15 years or so when it comes to playoff teams, but on some of them, I just had to go WTF on some of them, here's the list.

Buffalo Bills: Really? Mario Williams has got to be one of the most underperforming defensive players in a long time, seriously. 1 winning season under his belt in Houston, and he breaks down a lot, not to mention that the Texans didn't miss that much last year, when they had one the best defensive units last year. Plus, Fitzpatrick is still the QB, who's shaky at best, Stevie Johnson who vastly overrated and can't catch when it matters most, Fred Jackson who's 30 years old and a bunch of second tier rejects can't hang with New England.

San Diego Chargers: The only good news for them is that they play in the shittiest division in all of football, the AFC West, so they have just as good of a shot as anyone in that division.

Chicago Bears: Makes sense, enough said.

Dallas Cowboys: People need to stop mentioning these guys when it comes to playoffs. They're not as talented as everyone thinks they are, and Tony Romo is still the QB, who's good but not great, never mind the fact that they get their asses handed to by the Giants and Eagles almost every year to begin with, and barely beat the Foreskins as well. I don't see the NFC East having 3 teams in the playoffs this year.

Philadelphia Eagles: Honestly, I would be shocked if they don't make it to the playoffs with that roster they have right now. Now how far they go is a different story, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Now I can't wait to see who's going to be the 5 teams that are going to be out by these guys, because I think I have an idea on who's it's going to be.

Heard a rumor the other day about the Raiders planning to leave Oakland again, possibly for San Francisco. Anyone know anything about this? I've heard about this stuff before, but it seems real now...