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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-03-24 23:21:05


At 3/23/12 02:13 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: After a bit of thinking, I think Tebow might actually be a good acquisition for the Jets.

I think it's more of a gimmick more than anything. Just tossing him in the wildcat for a few plays and that's all he is going to play.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-03-25 23:27:51


At 3/23/12 02:13 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: After a bit of thinking, I think Tebow might actually be a good acquisition for the Jets.

Sanchez hasn't necessarily been given enough time to adjust to being a more central role, and most people really doubt his potential as a franchise quarterback. With Tebow on the roster, Sanchez will have to prove he's starting QB material (though he'll probably start next season regardless of his performance during training camp, unless he plays particularly horrid).

I think it's rather easy for Sanchez to beat Tim Tebow in practice, although I certainly wouldn't have either of these QBs as my starter, the thing is that as soon as Sanchez screws up, then Tebow is going to come in, but unlike in Denver, he will not be able to get away with being inaccurate for 3 quarters, not when teams like the Patriots would run circles around them on offense. Most likely, this will end in disaster because they have to rotate QBs over and over whenever one of them plays bad.

This is always been my problem with the Jets. They keep going after 2nd rate piecemeal parts, retreads {particularly at WR} and trades that will land them on the back page instead of going with something more logical. What makes it worse is that Rex Ryan has to blab about going to the Super Bowl every year, despite having a roster that's really less talented than teams like the Bengals or Chargers, it's no wonder why the Giants did what the Jets couldn't do the last couple of years, win a Super Bowl.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-03-26 01:04:40


At 3/23/12 02:13 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: After a bit of thinking, I think Tebow might actually be a good acquisition for the Jets.

He's a good player with a great skill set

However, if the Jets think they're getting a possible franchise QB option out of him then they're going to be disappointed.

Tebow is a great football player, the Jets should be working on how they can use him with Sanchez rather than having the two compete for one job.

Who knows maybe that's exactly what they're doing but it won't matter because the Bills will stomp them on the road to the Superb Owl.

Response to American Football Discussion 2012-03-29 00:01:18


you guys have lost your minds about the jets, they were 8-8 last year, which while ar short of the expectations for the club is still an even record.
some short notes:

1. Eli Manning's 3rd season in the NFL was actually worse than Mark Sanchez's statistically (which is odd because the Giants had a relatively easy schedule that year).
stats comparison:
(3rd year 2006) Eli- 3244 yards, 24 TD 18 INT, 57.7% Completion, 77.0 QB rating
(3rd year 2011) Mark- 3474 yards, 26 TD 18INT, 56.7% Completion, 78.2 QB rating

2. Mark Sanchez has won 4 career playoff games in just 3 years and he has been to 2 AFC championship titles.

3. Mark Sanchez has improved upon his passing numbers, completion percentage, and QB rating each year he has been in the NFL.

4. Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Hasselbeck, Michael Vick, and Alex Smith all threw for less TD's than Sanchez did in 2011.

5. The New York Jets are a run first team right? Well in 2011 they ranked 29th in the NFL in Yards Per Carry (per rush play) with a miserable 3.8 ypc, meanwhile ranking 16th in the NFL in Attempts a game.

6. The Jets ranked 17th in the NFL in sacks, yet despite this they still managed to allow the 5th lowest amount of yards a game!

7. However they allowed 22.7 Points a game (17th), giving up points is common among teams that struggle to get to the QB.
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With all that stated I have a fool proof 3 step plan to fix the Jets:
1. Get Better blitzing Line Backers (in the draft), and perhaps a solid Defensive end as well.
2. Draft or trade for a true #1 RB. (They could trade their 1st rounder, 2nd rounder, or such to the Panthers for the Panthers #9 pick if Trent Richardson is available at that spot).
3. Draft a talented WR either in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round (the WR class this year is pretty solid).


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-02 07:52:51


At 3/25/12 02:45 AM, Travis wrote: New York Jets and Tebow is gonna be funny to watch.

One interception by Sanchez and the fanbase will turn.

Tebow mania is dead!!! >:)


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-03 20:22:03


Any one see the new Seahawks uniforms? I fear for alternates this year. Though I will try to get the new Packers gloves.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-03 20:59:24


At 4/3/12 08:22 PM, ToddM wrote: Any one see the new Seahawks uniforms? I fear for alternates this year. Though I will try to get the new Packers gloves.

I saw all of the new Nike uniforms and I'm pretty impressed with them. Seattle's uniforms are different, but I don't think they're THAT bad, to be honest with you. It's not like they're those retarded looking uniforms from that Maryland Collegiate team last year.

All and all, these uniforms look pretty ballin'. Can't wait to see them in action.

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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-03 22:34:10


At 4/3/12 08:59 PM, 1-800-CockJoke wrote:
At 4/3/12 08:22 PM, ToddM wrote:
I saw all of the new Nike uniforms and I'm pretty impressed with them. Seattle's uniforms are different, but I don't think they're THAT bad, to be honest with you. It's not like they're those retarded looking uniforms from that Maryland Collegiate team last year.

Well, they're not really that much different from the old uniforms made by Reebok, except for a few small designs on the Nike jerseys. {Seahawks are the obvious exception, and their new unis are OK, as long as they don't bring back those lime green jerseys again.}


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-05 23:28:38


At 4/5/12 08:19 PM, 1-800-CockJoke wrote: Joe Goodberry: "ThereâEUTMs absolutely no way this draft can or will be a failure (For the Bengals)."

If you consider the Bengals recent history in the NFL draft, they have been rather successful at getting good players, the main problem with them is consistency during the season. While yes, they have made the playoffs 3 out of the last 6 seasons, {which is much better than they were 10 or 15 years ago.} they haven't been able to cash it in by winning a playoff game, even when they were favored to win, or have back to back winning seasons.

Say what you will about Mike Brown as an owner, {he might as well be Al Davis' replacement when it comes to picking players with equal parts talent and rap sheets among other things.} but he does know something about drafting good players over the years, now if they can only pay off in the future by winning a playoff game and be in contention for the Super Bowl every year.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-11 14:35:29


NFL releases Offseason Power Rankings with the Giants at #1 and Jaguars at #32

It'll be interesting to see if these predictions hold any weight in the actual season. I like the idea of the Bengals being a "Moneyball team", though. That's exciting.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-11 22:03:35


Bobby Petrino was fired by Arkansas after his motorcycle accident with his mistress. That was certainly surprising to hear, partly because the Razorbacks are most likely going to be a Top 5 team when the first polls come out, and coming from the SEC, let's be honest, almost every player, coach and school down there cares a little bit more about winning football games, than have a good moral compass for the students and faculty. {Just look at how many players in the SEC get arrested the last couple of years for God's sake.}

I've got to imagine that there would be a lot of people clamoring for the Arkansas HC job, even with the presence of 'Bama, LSU and now Texas A&M in that division.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-12 23:13:35


At 4/11/12 10:03 PM, orangebomb wrote: Bobby Petrino was fired by Arkansas after his motorcycle accident with his mistress. That was certainly surprising to hear,

If it wasn't for the fact that he hired her to be in his department he could have survived this mess. Nobody care if a dirty old man is in a relationship with someone 20-30 years his younger as long as he wins games.

But in giving her preferential treatment for a job, there was no way that the Athletic Department or any other department could defend that. If they did, then other people of power in other departments could get away with it as well and the university could not deal with that.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-16 07:24:55


Kickoffs being taken out of the NFL? New York's John Mara can see it happening...

I really don't want this to happen. I understand the health concerns, but this has been such a big part of the game for so long....to take it out would dramatically alter the course of game. What would happen to onside kicks and the possibility of a come-from-behind win? They would be lost forever...

So, what's your guys' thoughts on this?


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-17 22:37:58


At 4/16/12 07:24 AM, ZJ wrote: So, what's your guys' thoughts on this?

It's unfortunate, but I do see a possiblity that the kickoff will be eliminated unless the kickoff returners just take a knee and take the touchback, or go out of bounds more often, which will accomplish very little. The main reason why the NFL is constantly adjusting the kickoff in recent years is try to reduce the risk of concussions, considering that the defenders are going at high speeds to get after the KR, in which physics take over. If the former players win a lot of cases against the NFL in court, then the kickoff will be one of things that will be on the chopping block.

In other news, the schedules was released today, and the Bengals will have 3 games in prime time, the first Monday Night game in Baltimore , a Sunday night game against the Steelers at home on Oct. 21st, and a Thursday night game against the Eagles on Nov. 13th. It'll do well for them to win at least 2 of these games.

Apparently, the schedule makers seem to hate the Giants, giving them the hardest schedule this season yet again, but I guess when you win 2 Super Bowls and have an elite QB at the helm, no schedule is too tough for them. As for the Browns, well, looking at who they have to face and considering the talent that they have now, there's a huge possiblity that they can go 0-16, or at least end up with the number 1 pick in next year's draft.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-17 23:46:18


The schedule for the Bills SUCKS but most of our hardest games are earlier on so maybe if we start hot we can salvage our season from inevitable mid season meltdown losses.

I think a winning record is very possible but it'll be tough if we continue to play second fiddle to every other team in the division. Hopefully the D Line stays healthy and we destroy the JEST and Phins like we should have been last season.

I'm going to try and abstain from the razorcake this season but i'll probably bite if we start out over .500 after the first 5 or so games.

At least if we miss the playoffs again I can be confident Green Bay will give me someone to root for come December.

Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-18 12:33:35


At 4/17/12 11:46 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: The schedule for the Bills SUCKS but most of our hardest games are earlier on so maybe if we start hot we can salvage our season from inevitable mid season meltdown losses.

I think a winning record is very possible but it'll be tough if we continue to play second fiddle to every other team in the division. Hopefully the D Line stays healthy and we destroy the JEST and Phins like we should have been last season.

I'm going to try and abstain from the razorcake this season but i'll probably bite if we start out over .500 after the first 5 or so games.

At least if we miss the playoffs again I can be confident Green Bay will give me someone to root for come December.

Sounds like your team is the opposite of mine. While our season starts out with a game against the Ravens (the team that made it to the AFC Championship game last year), the next five games after are pretty easy with gimmie games against the Browns (twice), Jaguars, and Dolphins. In addition to that, we'll have a fairly close match-up in the Washington game as we'll get to take on RG3 when he's young and only three games into his NFL career. So, I'm easily seeing a 5-1 start for us this season.

However, things will get much harder for us after that with two games against the Steelers, a game against America's Team, a grudge match against Carson Palmer's Raiders, a visit from each Manning Brother in home games against the Broncos and Giants, a Thursday trip to Philadelphia for a bout against the Eagles, and another season finale against the Ravens. Experts are saying that our team's schedule has an extremely difficult backend and I really can't disagreee with them. Following our bye in Week 8, things get really tough.

I'm not too worried, though. I figure that if our team does well in the first part of the season (5-1 would be a great start) we can probably power through the second part of the season and at least match where we were last season with nine wins. Here's hoping.

Go Bengals!

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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-18 22:53:36


At 4/18/12 12:33 PM, ZJ wrote:
At 4/17/12 11:46 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
Sounds like your team is the opposite of mine. While our season starts out with a game against the Ravens (the team that made it to the AFC Championship game last year), the next five games after are pretty easy with gimmie games against the Browns (twice), Jaguars, and Dolphins. In addition to that, we'll have a fairly close match-up in the Washington game as we'll get to take on RG3 when he's young and only three games into his NFL career. So, I'm easily seeing a 5-1 start for us this season.

You're right, the Bengals should be able to start out of the gates 5-1, or at worst, 4-2. Browns, Jags and Dolphins are easy victories right there, the Redskins game can go either way, but we should win that game and the Ravens game is the toughest, although we seem to do pretty well against them on Monday Night, so we got that at least.

However, things will get much harder for us after that with two games against the Steelers, a game against America's Team, a grudge match against Carson Palmer's Raiders, a visit from each Manning Brother in home games against the Broncos and Giants, a Thursday trip to Philadelphia for a bout against the Eagles, and another season finale against the Ravens. Experts are saying that our team's schedule has an extremely difficult backend and I really can't disagreee with them. Following our bye in Week 8, things get really tough.

The only real good news is that we get most of them at home, and young teams usually do better at home than on the road. While I imagine that the AFC West teams are average at best, the NFC East teams are quite the opposite. Giants and Eagles are certainly going to be contenders, and you never really know what you're going to get with the Cowboys, and then finish it off at Steelers and the Ravens, we'll see if they can earn their salt in the 2nd half.

I'm not too worried, though. I figure that if our team does well in the first part of the season (5-1 would be a great start) we can probably power through the second part of the season and at least match where we were last season with nine wins. Here's hoping.

9 or 10 wins sounds about right. What's more important is that we can be consistent about winning every season, considering how we have one good season only to take a step back the next year. If everything works out, we should be able to compete for the divisional crown, partly because I've got to imagine that the Steelers will be taking a step back considering that it's an older team, and the offense possibly be in a state of flux with their new OC going after Roethlisberger, and the Browns, well they're the Browns.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-26 22:44:38


Sooooo, what are the Browns planning to do with Brandon Weeden? I hope it's not actually have him play QB.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-26 23:23:59


At 4/26/12 10:44 PM, reverend wrote: Sooooo, what are the Browns planning to do with Brandon Weeden? I hope it's not actually have him play QB.

Sad thing is, that Weeden will compete with Colt McCoy, and considering how putrid they are on offense, and with a brutal schedule, my guess would be that Weeden will eventually replace McCoy around Week 6 or so, possibly in an attempt to spark the offense.

Considering how old Weeden will be at the start of the season, {29 as a rookie.} something tells me that they will be drafting another franchise QB within the next few years.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-26 23:25:16


At 4/26/12 10:44 PM, reverend wrote: Sooooo, what are the Browns planning to do with Brandon Weeden? I hope it's not actually have him play QB.

The Browns have clearly shown they don't believe in Colt McCoy and would rather throw him under the bus than give him the protection and receivers that any quarterback would need to perform at their best.

The Browns clearly enjoy festering in mediocrity because they keep making stupid picks like this. Weeden is 28 YEARS OLD how are you going to draft a 28 year old and expect him to boost your franchise? Ridiculous. I feel bad for Colt McCoy a.k.a David Carr 2.0 and the Browns in general because this little stint doesn't seem to have any real upside. The dude is ancient by college QB standards you would hope he could play well in college the fact that he can play at that level should not lead anyone to believe he is NFL material and yet they are talking about him like he's already better than Colt. If the Browns were a playoff competing team or in a weak division i'd be a little more inclined to side with them on this but really I find it idiotic.

On the subject of drafting the Bills took Stephon Gilmore out of South Carolina. I was expecting something a little safer or more oriented to the front lines of defense but with McGee out we're going to need another strong corner to support McKelvin, especially seeing as he adds more size to that position than McKelvin can add. I wasn't expecting it but any time you can take the best player available it's fine with me.

Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-26 23:50:53


At 4/26/12 11:23 PM, orangebomb wrote: Sad thing is, that Weeden will compete with Colt McCoy, and considering how putrid they are on offense, and with a brutal schedule, my guess would be that Weeden will eventually replace McCoy around Week 6 or so, possibly in an attempt to spark the offense.

I still think McCoy is the better QB so I think they will replace him in week 8. But seriously, I don't really see any value in Weeden. It's a good story but a good story don't win games.

Alright so who is going to have the better career? Luck or RGIII?
One of these guys is going to be a bust; it always happens.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-27 02:17:11


lol browns, just lol

lions got a steal. steelers, chargers also did ok. jets shockingly making a decent selection as well

Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-27 09:25:16


Did the Browns just trade a bunch of picks to move up one spot?


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-27 11:48:15


Well that didn't take long. There is talk that the Browns are looking to trade Colt.

Guess we'll see what happens tonight.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-27 20:02:27


At 4/27/12 09:25 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Did the Browns just trade a bunch of picks to move up one spot?

Sadly, yes they did. Even though they did get Richardson, they always seem to do stupid shit in the draft all the time, whether it making stupid picks, or just finding ways to throw the few talented players they have under the bus. Now, they are rumors that they are going to trade what's left of McCoy and repeat the same mistake with Weeden. This is one of many reasons why I never root for them is because they have idiots everywhere, both in management and in coaching, it's no wonder why they finish last in the AFC North almost every year.

As for who will be better QB between Luck and RG3, I'm going with Luck. True, the Colts have absoulte shit on their roster, and he'll have a rocky 1st season, but in the long term, I see Luck as a Super Bowl contending QB, whereas RG3 is simply a slightly better Vince Young or even a Akili Smith.

What I don't understand is why was everyone going crazy for RG3, he only had 1 good year at Baylor, largely due to the fact the teams they played in general played no defense whatsoever. I mean, if other Big 12 QBs in the past barely had success in the NFL, if at all, what's going to make him different from the rest?


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-28 23:28:46


Mr. Irrelvant this year is Chandler Harnish from N. Illinois. Getting paid to be Luck's back up and getting to go to Disneyland and all the other perks of the award isn't all that bad.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-29 01:52:37


Well the Ravens seem to be doing alright in the draft so far and I'll be interested to see how it works out. Feel sorry for Browns fans though, looks like they're getting screwed.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-04-29 17:39:35


At 4/29/12 01:52 AM, chiefindomer wrote: Well the Ravens seem to be doing alright in the draft so far and I'll be interested to see how it works out. Feel sorry for Browns fans though, looks like they're getting screwed.

I'm sure they're used to it by now.

I mean the good part of the Browns (if not the entire team) were sold to Baltimore, wrecked Couch's career, made stupid decisions after another, and their fans would think beating a good team a big deal to the point that they would chant "Overrated" in the regular season.

It's sad really.


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