At 5/9/11 10:39 PM, boloneyman wrote: The rest of the show could have been King slamming Cole's face and I'd be content. Someone post a screen shot of his face against the glass, please please please.

Could not find my camera. I tossed my girlfriend off the couch and still failed to find it.

So, Cena v Miz in an I quit match, sounds good.

Am I the only one getting tired of this Cena/Miz feud? That shit needs to change cuz its about exausted itself.

R-Truth hates hospital food, and that's the TRUTH!. I really like his new angle, alot more fun.

I was happy with most of the matches yesterday and the show was good (aside from all of the commercials).

Mayson Ryan needs to have a full match, i'm glad he seems to be moving away from Nexus. I would love to see him and Jackson team up or abit.

I also want to see Awesome Kong in a real match, just pit her up against high cards and everyone will be happy.

Cole almost ruined the show (again), but Lawler made it all worth while. After watching some old videos though, I would love to see Lawler go back to his nasty heel persona from the 90s.

Miz vs Cena in an "I Quit" match, I hope its not a repeat of last year's Batista vs Cena match.

At 5/10/11 12:19 AM, KurtWilder2027 wrote: Am I the only one getting tired of this Cena/Miz feud? That shit needs to change cuz its about exausted itself.

I enjoyed the feud when the Miz had the upper hands. But now it is inevitably heading towards its predictable finish. There is NO WAY IN HELL that Cena will LOSE in an "I quit" match.

At 5/10/11 08:11 AM, WooldoorSockbat wrote: R-Truth hates hospital food, and that's the TRUTH!. I really like his new angle, alot more fun.

Truth has gone from being Road Dogg at the end of his run, to being a really passionate heel with a lot of upside. This is what happens when you give a guy an opportunity and he commits to it. Why can't they do this with the rest of the roster?

I was happy with most of the matches yesterday and the show was good (aside from all of the commercials).

I thought it was pretty "eh" personally. They had a very good opening but not a whole hell of a lot after that held my interest. I do like that WWE continues to slow build the idea of a Reily face turn.

Mayson Ryan needs to have a full match, i'm glad he seems to be moving away from Nexus. I would love to see him and Jackson team up or abit.

Ryan is so green I don't know if he's even capable of a "full match" and to keep it interesting. They're trying to push this guy but protect him at the same time.

I also want to see Awesome Kong in a real match, just pit her up against high cards and everyone will be happy.

Yeah, I think WWE really needs to get ready for what seems to be the inevitable moment where Kong destroys some girls and Beth Phoenix comes back to stand in her way.

Cole almost ruined the show (again), but Lawler made it all worth while. After watching some old videos though, I would love to see Lawler go back to his nasty heel persona from the 90s.

I just can't see them ever turning Lawler again at this point. He's been a babyface so long and he's so loved, in part because he's been there so long, I don't think a heel turn would take.

Miz vs Cena in an "I Quit" match, I hope its not a repeat of last year's Batista vs Cena match.

I hope they booked it as an "I Quit" because I quits can have screw jobs where the heel uses tape recordings or whatever to make the face quit. I just can't see them cleanly making Cena quit, and I really really don't believe Cena should retain, as I don't believe he should have gotten the belt to begin with.

Well, if Kelly couldn't get into Playboy due to the PG rating, then clearly Maxim was the next best thing. ^_^

I usually don't take to heel personas that much, but I'm loving Ron as a heel right now. His heel run on TNA was nowhere near as good. Like avie said, you just gotta give some guys a shot, and you may very well be surprised with what you get.

I expect a Kharma/Beth showdown on Friday - in other words, DREAM MATCH!

Mason, right now, is being booked in the same way as Kharma - a force that even previous dominant forces have difficulty with. He may be green now, but give him some time & a smidge more polish, and you'll be seeing this guy walking around with a major title. Hopefully he can shake off any notion that he's just getting by on being Batista's Welsh twin, and really break out.

An I Quit match.......dunno how I fell about this. I'd like to see avie's idea of using tape recordings, but I fear it'll just end on Cena winning like every other I Quit match he's been in. :(

"I didn't touch him; I touched his tie!" That was awesome. I swear, they BETTER not have Cole win this one; enough puppies & kittens have commited suicide for this angle.

At 5/10/11 05:46 PM, JKMonkey wrote: man it's been a while since Ive seen an "I Quit" match, I think the last one I saw was Mankind V. The Rock a few years back, seems like a cool concept bringing back a match from the early Attitude era...

Actually, the most recent "I Quit" match that I saw was between Cena and Orton (heel) back in 2009 if I am not mistaken.

So, another "I quit" - Match with John Cena? I am absolutely sure that he will win it like the thousands before.

At 5/11/11 11:48 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Actually, the most recent "I Quit" match that I saw was between Cena and Orton (heel) back in 2009 if I am not mistaken.

Also the concept is much older. The first one I can recall is between Terry Funk and Ric Flair in WCW. There really isn't anything new under the sun these days. It's all variations on the classics.

At 5/11/11 09:23 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also the concept is much older. The first one I can recall is between Terry Funk and Ric Flair in WCW. There really isn't anything new under the sun these days. It's all variations on the classics.

Not to mention that Super Cena has never lost in an "I Quit" match. Unfortunately, the Cena vs Miz rivalry is heading towards its inevitable and predictable end.

At 5/11/11 11:24 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:

At 5/11/11 09:23 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also the concept is much older. The first one I can recall is between Terry Funk and Ric Flair in WCW. There really isn't anything new under the sun these days. It's all variations on the classics.

Not to mention that Super Cena has never lost in an "I Quit" match. Unfortunately, the Cena vs Miz rivalry is heading towards its inevitable and predictable end.

I'm having a tough time thinking Miz will win that match, as most of you think as well. I'm thinking that Cena will go on to face Del Rio at some point after this and Rey will fued with R-Truth. I'm not sure where this leaves Miz though...

I just hope Cena doesn't keep it a whole year.

I also hope they end the Cole/King fued sooner rather than later. Heel Cole is fine and all but I felt it was really classless to be mocking someone the day after Mother's Day who had recently lost their mom. I know King has given that storyline the ok, but it still doesn't make it right. I know it is supposed to make us hate Cole more and it does the job. It just does it a little too well...

As far as I can understand about Orton and SD is that the WWE intends to build SD around him and make him the Cena of that brand. So we'll have Super Cena on Raw and Super Orton on SD.

At 5/11/11 11:50 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: As far as I can understand about Orton and SD is that the WWE intends to build SD around him and make him the Cena of that brand. So we'll have Super Cena on Raw and Super Orton on SD.

No, no, no; if Cena is Superman, then that makes Orton Batman. So, it's SuperCena & BatOrton.

At 5/12/11 12:43 AM, Swackman wrote:

At 5/11/11 11:50 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: As far as I can understand about Orton and SD is that the WWE intends to build SD around him and make him the Cena of that brand. So we'll have Super Cena on Raw and Super Orton on SD.

No, no, no; if Cena is Superman, then that makes Orton Batman. So, it's SuperCena & BatOrton.

Orton is not batman, you shut your whore mouth. Do not besmirtz the good name of Batman.

At 5/12/11 04:08 PM, JKMonkey wrote:

At 5/12/11 06:47 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:
Orton is not batman, you shut your whore mouth. Do not besmirtz the good name of Batman.

Orton does have a chip on his shoulder, i mean if it werent for his father he wouldnt have his job in the first place

Look, as much as I hate the character of Orton and find his in ring work boring he's a good worker and the inept booking decisions aside he's established himself... That said, CM Punk is Batman.

At 5/12/11 09:31 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: Look, as much as I hate the character of Orton and find his in ring work boring he's a good worker and the inept booking decisions aside he's established himself... That said, CM Punk is Batman.

Punk the case could be made for either Batman under Grant Morrison, or Wolverine.

so whats new in here ? other than ROCK come back i saw in TV ? same old.....

At 5/12/11 09:46 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
Punk the case could be made for either Batman under Grant Morrison, or Wolverine.

I will also like to add Deadpool to the list of comparisons. Morrison is with out a doubt Spiderman.

So I tried watching TNA.....again. So do they actually wrestle on that show or can I safely assume it's a soap opera?

There was a Divas (Knockouts whatever) match that I didn't pay much attention to, and something between Suicide and a Sin Cara ripoff. Though I was kind of excited about the 25 man over the ring challenge before I remembered that large neon signs were pointing at Mr.Anderson to win (though I do like him).

Even with the new Mick Foley angle going on, I doubt much will change. I was even slightly surprised and excited to see Chyna but then just became confused. She also looks like you could pop her with a pin.

I can see why we don't discuss this program too often.

At 5/12/11 12:43 AM, Swackman wrote:

At 5/11/11 11:50 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: As far as I can understand about Orton and SD is that the WWE intends to build SD around him and make him the Cena of that brand. So we'll have Super Cena on Raw and Super Orton on SD.

No, no, no; if Cena is Superman, then that makes Orton Batman. So, it's SuperCena & BatOrton.

Cena is Superman yes, but Orton is so mechanical and he no sells everything, thus essentially making him Robocop.

At 5/13/11 01:38 PM, 36Holla wrote: Cena is Superman yes, but Orton is so mechanical and he no sells everything, thus essentially making him Robocop.

Disagree, I think it depends on the opponent Orton has, and maybe the way matches are edited I guess as well. Because that Christian match was very good. As far as the no selling, I always wonder among the top guys is it ignorance, or is it an edict from management considering Vince loves those over the top real life cartoon characters. I think Orton certainly has his drawbacks, but I also think you are being just a touch unfair with your criticism of the guy. Plus he's legitimately over, and that's something WWE needs desperately right now.

At 5/13/11 08:35 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 5/13/11 01:38 PM, 36Holla wrote: Cena is Superman yes, but Orton is so mechanical and he no sells everything, thus essentially making him Robocop.

Disagree, I think it depends on the opponent Orton has, and maybe the way matches are edited I guess as well. Because that Christian match was very good. As far as the no selling, I always wonder among the top guys is it ignorance, or is it an edict from management considering Vince loves those over the top real life cartoon characters. I think Orton certainly has his drawbacks, but I also think you are being just a touch unfair with your criticism of the guy. Plus he's legitimately over, and that's something WWE needs desperately right now.

I was joking a little and calling him a robot because he doesn't look like he's capable of having emotion most of the time. The no selling was based on his feud with Nexus where he'd get beat down by all of them but then pull out an RKO at the last second and get up/out of the ring like he's fine. I agree that the match he had with Christian was good from an entertainment and technical standpoint, and the whole thing wasn't meant to be especially critical of him either.

Also got my ROH ticket the other day. Hell yeah.

At 5/13/11 10:37 PM, 36Holla wrote: I was joking a little and calling him a robot because he doesn't look like he's capable of having emotion most of the time.

Without emoticons how can I know man? HOW CAN I KNOW?!

The no selling was based on his feud with Nexus where he'd get beat down by all of them but then pull out an RKO at the last second and get up/out of the ring like he's fine.

That I believe was totally a management/creative call.

I agree that the match he had with Christian was good from an entertainment and technical standpoint, and the whole thing wasn't meant to be especially critical of him either.

Hey, you want to be critical, that's cool. I'm just saying you can't go all the way into the bad without pointing out the good as well.

Also got my ROH ticket the other day. Hell yeah.

Coolness.

At 5/14/11 07:04 PM, Tetris wrote: Would anyone else like to see a Cody/DiBiase feud? They work good together and Ted has been working dark matches as a face.

If DiBiase can prove that he can handle the work and put together entertaining matches then I'd be for a new take on him. Cody needs someone new to feud with too.

At 5/14/11 01:14 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 5/13/11 10:37 PM, 36Holla wrote:

I agree that the match he had with Christian was good from an entertainment and technical standpoint, and the whole thing wasn't meant to be especially critical of him either.

Hey, you want to be critical, that's cool. I'm just saying you can't go all the way into the bad without pointing out the good as well.

Like I said, I don't think it could hurt to show a little more emotion from him, though I'm sure Vince is convinced that the only way he'll stay this popular is if he goes out stone faced every night and looks good for the female fans. I wouldn't exactly call his matches the pinnacle of exciting either, though they're not as predictable as Cena's matches with the same five moves he uses to end every match. But Orton's a solid wrestler with a recognizable move set and a very versatile finishing move which he can pull out in more situations than the average finisher, and that helps to make it look exciting on a consistent basis. He uses the tools he has to get over with the crowd and he's been very good at it.

It also helps working with Christian because Christian has had good matches with everyone he's wrestled so far since being back, and he seems like a guy who makes his opponents look better in matches, kind of like Rey.

On a side note, I'm glad they're continuing a Christian/Orton storyline, but if they decide to continue it past Over The Limit, I have a feeling one of them is turning heel. Orton is growing out his facial hair after all.

At 5/15/11 05:37 AM, 36Holla wrote: Like I said, I don't think it could hurt to show a little more emotion from him, though I'm sure Vince is convinced that the only way he'll stay this popular is if he goes out stone faced every night and looks good for the female fans. I wouldn't exactly call his matches the pinnacle of exciting either, though they're not as predictable as Cena's matches with the same five moves he uses to end every match. But Orton's a solid wrestler with a recognizable move set and a very versatile finishing move which he can pull out in more situations than the average finisher, and that helps to make it look exciting on a consistent basis. He uses the tools he has to get over with the crowd and he's been very good at it.

I agree with this assessment. I also have always liked the RKO for exactly the reason you mentioned, it's the same reason I liked the Stunner, and the way Taker has applied things like The Tombstone for years. Because a finisher should be a move that can be done from out of nowhere, and it should believably end a fight. This is why finishers like the People's Elbow have always annoyed me.

It also helps working with Christian because Christian has had good matches with everyone he's wrestled so far since being back, and he seems like a guy who makes his opponents look better in matches, kind of like Rey.

Christian has always been a solid hand, if nothing else. People sometimes underestimate how valuable those sorts of guys can be. That said though I always thought Vince definitely undervalues Christian as he's a guy that would have been in that Curt Hennig mold of top IC champion, or perhaps even what Jericho was before his most recent heel turn, a 1a type of guy who while not carrying your shows is a solid choice to put a title on when the need arises.

On a side note, I'm glad they're continuing a Christian/Orton storyline, but if they decide to continue it past Over The Limit, I have a feeling one of them is turning heel. Orton is growing out his facial hair after all.

I can't see Orton being the heel. He and Cena are the unquestionably top two every day guys in the company right now. They will both stay face and be asked to carry their respective brands. If it's a choice between Christian or Orton, guarantee you Christian turns.

I would've gladly paid Kharma $1,000 to kick Cole squarely in the balls. :P I just have to wonder how much longer before the entire DIvas roster IRL gets sick enough of Cole ruining their screentime & goes on a rampage.

It's nice to see DiBiase doing something. SOMETHING. Hopefully this is the re-start of a feud, and a hopeful rebranding of a guy who SHOULD be in a better position than he was in.

This new Mahal/Khali angle has my attention. Wish I knew what the hell they were saying.....

Once again, Bryan steals the show. And yet, he's still stuck in midcard jobber hell right now......although I don't count this in that, since Sin Cara needed someone solid to go over.

Well, at least a Christian heel turn has been delayed for a little while. He is good as a heel, though, but SD needs a secondary top face right now, and he has Peeps up the wazoo.

ZEKE FOR IC CHAMP!!! PLEASE!!! Seriously, that'll be one hell of a DOMINANT title run if they let him have it. Btw, why the hell are they so flip-floppy on what to do with the Corre? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS.

Oh, I forgot to mention, last week, I actually saw a "PUSH RYDER" sign in the RAW crowd; does that mean they might finally be considering something?

At 5/15/11 11:58 PM, Swackman wrote: This new Mahal/Khali angle has my attention. Wish I knew what the hell they were saying.....

It's something along the lines of "You need to stop this." Jinder might be talking about Khali not being serious anymore when he comes to the ring with the kiss cam and stuff like that.

Once again, Bryan steals the show. And yet, he's still stuck in midcard jobber hell right now......although I don't count this in that, since Sin Cara needed someone solid to go over.

They also need appropriately sized guys for Cara's finishing move which I've seen a few people say is unnecessary and that he had some other finishing move in Mexico that he could use on anyone. Not sure what it was. Bryan did a good job though. The beginning of that match had actual wrestling too.

Well, at least a Christian heel turn has been delayed for a little while. He is good as a heel, though, but SD needs a secondary top face right now, and he has Peeps up the wazoo.

If Christian turns, maybe Zeke since he turned face.

ZEKE FOR IC CHAMP!!! PLEASE!!! Seriously, that'll be one hell of a DOMINANT title run if they let him have it. Btw, why the hell are they so flip-floppy on what to do with the Corre? MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS.

They need to make the IC title worth something again, and a feud with Zeke and Barrett/Corre over it could do that. I was also expecting a dominant Corre run but since that fizzled, I just want it all to end. Barrett can have a singles career and you have Slater/Gabriel as a start to a renewed tag team division. (wishful thinking) But for christ sakes, just end it. You could have had Zeke come to Smackdown as a face to begin with at this rate.

Oh, I forgot to mention, last week, I actually saw a "PUSH RYDER" sign in the RAW crowd; does that mean they might finally be considering something?

Probably not :(

I'm hating on the blue lights during Sin Cara's matches.. what the fuck is up with that?

Also, Daniel Bryan is so awkward in the ring. He can't sell anyones offence and looks really akward between moves and when he is being pinned for a near fall.

Thats all my hate out for this week.

At 5/16/11 06:20 PM, JKMonkey wrote: how the fuck does Sin Cara jump from the ramp, over the ropes, and into the ring? that shit just defies gravity

Trampoline.

Last night I think they finally did Swagger some good. They gave him some seperation from Cole as well as reminded people that he is in fact a former champion. And while he didn't win his match against Cena (few do) he still came off as impressive. I really hope they keep this in the right direction.

I'm also happy with the way R-Truth has been going. His match with Rey should be great since both guys can really deliver in the ring.

I'm suprised Kelly Kelly didn't act like she was hit with a cannon when Kharma flicked her in the head. :P

sorry i've been a bit absent the past couple of weeks.. family stuff going on.. nothing bad though, thanks for asking.

Seeing the Over the Limit card, it looks like a pretty lousy ppv

After seeing RAW end and watching John Cena take 2 lead pipe shots to the back and then beat the crap out of Miz AND Alex Riley literally 10 seconds later, has made me believe that their I Quit match will be total bullshit.. at the way they ridiculously booked Cena on RAW, it seems that not even dropping a car on him will have him to say I quit..

Cole vs Lawler is really getting strung out now, and also WWE really crossed the line with the whole thing about Cole talking about King's dead mother again.. not only on RAW last week.. but on the following Smackdown.. I'm lucky to still have both parents with me, but if one of my parents had passed on and someone said something like cole did last monday, I would probably end up in prison due to what i'd do the bastard. But anyway, please just have Lawler win this time and end it.. maybe have Swagger coming in and helping Lawler win.. I would be interested in a Swagger face turn.

People seem to be loving R-Truth's heel character, but honestly, I don't see it doing many favours for him.. I can see him becoming a joke in the next few months.. possibly starting a losing streak or just be embarrassed week after week kinda like Chavo about a year ago.

Speaking of Chavo, thank god he's finally in a serious feud with someone! and with Sin Cara no less. From what I've read their matches at house shows are getting a lot of thumbs up so I have good expectations for this feud.

Zeke's a babyface again?... I'm ok with that.. give him more exposure this time.. they didn't really do that during his RAW run... Zeke vs Mark Henry would be a bit interesting to watch.

Tough Enough's been pretty good.. I felt sorry for Martin, it's a shame that he had to leave.. but honestly out of all the eliminated contestants that have said "I'll be back one day", he's the only one I believe.. Also I know I chose that Luke guy to win, but now I can't stand him.. such an arrogant asshole and is it just me or is he a bit of a kiss ass towards the trainers and stone cold.. I found it quite funny that time he was in the bottom 3 and tried to laugh along with stone cold, then austin just does this mock laugh back at him..

needless to say, if luke wins tough enough (which is most likely the case now), I can't see him lasting very long in the WWE.. he seems like a guy who would refuse to job and just whine if he hasn't been pushed..
Lillian Garcia, Candice Michelle and Torrie Wilson host a internet show talking about Tough Enough and they've all stated that someone like Luke would get eaten alive in the locker room..