I am not ruling out the possibility that the Miz gets drafted to SD!, Batista got drafted when he was the Champion, so it is possible.

At 4/21/11 01:15 AM, Swackman wrote:
I don't get it; Dolph is still Dolph, just with a new dye-and-cut. No 'new attitude' to be seen. If you're gonna say Dolph's appearance is signifying change, we'd better be seeing something different, here. The new do does make him seem a little more serious, but that's it, really.

He was probably just tired of bleaching his hair, and you can't blame him, it looked pretty damaged.

Why are you people so high on Ziggler? He has not impressed me in the ring. In fact, watching him still remains me his Spirit Squad days.

At 4/21/11 11:28 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Why are you people so high on Ziggler? He has not impressed me in the ring. In fact, watching him still remains me his Spirit Squad days.

People at the internet are alway high on the people who don´t get a push, but you can´t deny that Ziggler improved in the ring.

At 4/21/11 11:28 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Why are you people so high on Ziggler? He has not impressed me in the ring. In fact, watching him still remains me his Spirit Squad days.

I think Ziggler's ring work is quite good and more importantly he has developed into a very good character that you enjoy watching and hating. People give a damn about him in his role, and that means he's doing the job correctly. I mean, Hulk Hogan? Hate him, always pretty much hated him. He's an overrated douche with an overinflated sense of self. Most of his promos were ridiculous and he has no business criticizing anybody else on same. But he has charisma until Tuesday and people bought Hogan in whatever role he was in and he made a tremendous amount of money.

Point I'm going for is in a lot of ways wrestling, and wrestlers, can be a classic case of "one man's trash is another man's treasure".

Swackman, I have to disagree with you here. Yes, CM Punk battled Orton long and hard, but he came up short. In fact, he has not beaten Orton one on one since the feud started. Punk needed to go over Orton in a PPV or two and keep the feud interesting for a while ---- but it did not happen and certainly will not happen now.

At 4/22/11 04:44 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Swackman, I have to disagree with you here. Yes, CM Punk battled Orton long and hard, but he came up short. In fact, he has not beaten Orton one on one since the feud started. Punk needed to go over Orton in a PPV or two and keep the feud interesting for a while ---- but it did not happen and certainly will not happen now.

Don't know if you saw this, but they have last man standing match at Extreme Rules. I usually like these kinds of matches, since they are great ways to end feuds. Punk HAS to win this one, preferably with out the Nexus helping him. Even still, I bet this will be my favorite match of the night.

At 4/22/11 11:52 AM, boloneyman wrote: Don't know if you saw this, but they have last man standing match at Extreme Rules. I usually like these kinds of matches, since they are great ways to end feuds. Punk HAS to win this one, preferably with out the Nexus helping him. Even still, I bet this will be my favorite match of the night.

Other than Kane going over a wounded Taker, I am struggling to find any heel getting the win in these type of matches. I can see Orton winning the match and thus ending the feud.
Knowing the WWE, we will probably get Cena vs Orton for the title at Summer Slam. :/

So, some tentative plans later to drink, and look at the SD! and RAW rosters to figure out how the draft should go on monday.

Tentative structure looks like this:

Which brand needs to "win" the draft

Which stars can be "difference makers" for each show

Which guys could use a change of scenery.

This would cover the proposed number of "on show" picks (which I'm imagining is probably somewhere around 5 or so), plus the supplemental draft (supplemental will probably have much less explanation as at least some those moves tend to be random).

The WWE Draft is coming up. John Cena from Raw to SmackDown. Melina to SmackDown Drew Mcintyre from SmackDown to Raw.Layla from SmackDown to Raw.

At 4/23/11 12:41 AM, Zorua4 wrote: The WWE Draft is coming up. John Cena from Raw to SmackDown. Melina to SmackDown Drew Mcintyre from SmackDown to Raw.Layla from SmackDown to Raw.

I can't see Cena moving. Melina to SD! makes sense how? Moving Layla would fuck the Laycool feud unless one of them is getting the belt. Drew moving to RAW would just get him even more lost in the shuffle I think.

At 4/23/11 12:41 AM, Zorua4 wrote: The WWE Draft is coming up. John Cena from Raw to SmackDown. Melina to SmackDown Drew Mcintyre from SmackDown to Raw.Layla from SmackDown to Raw.

RAW is the A show, there is no way that Cena is leaving the A show for the B show.
I see Mcintyre moving since he is not doing anything on SD!, the same thing can be said to Kane.
Melina is not moving, the WWE is trying to build Laycool feuding with each other on SD!.
I see Sin Cara moving to SD! and feuding with ADR in the near future.

They might move R-Truth to SD and I saw a rumor saying that they are considering moving Miz there as well. I'm just wondering who is going to represent the top face on SD once this is all said and done. Will they actually give Christian the ball or will they hand it to a guy like Big Show? I'd say Taker is the top face, but since he isn't there much they can't rely on that.

They won't move Cena. They also won't let SD win the draft. They never do.

At 4/21/11 11:28 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Why are you people so high on Ziggler? He has not impressed me in the ring. In fact, watching him still remains me his Spirit Squad days.

Ziggler was part of the Spirit Squad? I did not know that.
He really was?

At 4/23/11 12:41 AM, Zorua4 wrote: The WWE Draft is coming up. John Cena from Raw to SmackDown. Melina to SmackDown Drew Mcintyre from SmackDown to Raw.Layla from SmackDown to Raw.

This is who i wish would move but if it does not happen. I guess we can wait till the next wwe Draft.

At 4/23/11 09:44 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: They won't move Cena. They also won't let SD win the draft. They never do.

Way I see it, Smackdown has more to gain than to give away simply because Raw has a larger roster to choose from and they have more "useful talent" that has the potential to be traded.

The cases for Raw to Smackdown and keep in mind that they're looking to replace their top babyface:
-Daniel Bryan desperately needs a change.
-Sin Cara will look better on the taped show since they can remove the botches.
-Evan Bourne had decent matches in ECW and may fair better on the secondary show.
-Sheamus for mid title change.
-Morrison to bring over a top face
-R Truth to move his aging body/heel gimmick to the secondary show and/or to continue a feud with Morrison
-Orton to be a top face
-Miz for a top title change...assuming he keeps the title ;)

And then you look at the cases for Smackdown to Raw:
-ADR for top title change...assuming he wins the title ;)
-Wade for mid title change+to cap off the Corre's inevitable breakup
-Kane and Big Show. New tag champs will be on both brands anyways so might as well put them on Raw to replace other talent going to Smackdown.
-Either Heath or Justin to break up their tag team (which I heard is somewhat of a tradition in the drafts)
-Either Cody or Swagger to shake up heels on the shows.

That's 8 cases for SD versus 6 for Raw and I'm assuming only 4 guys and 1 diva (notice I didn't mention any of them in the lists) are changing from each brand during Raw on Monday so not all of these picks will happen, but like I said, SD seems to have more to gain. That is unless they just completely treat some picks as a joke.

So is anyone buying Extreme Rules? I hope Christian beats Alberto Del Rio. I think Christian should win the World Heavyweight Title.

At 4/23/11 12:34 PM, 36Holla wrote:

They won't move Cena. They also won't let SD win the draft. They never do.

I agree they won't move Cena, not true that SD! hasn't won the draft before, when they changed networks to MyNetwork TV they certainly built that brand up quite well. The other problem they have is how many really impactful guys do they have on either show? It almost becomes like if you move anybody one way or the other, you are strengthening one and really weakening another.

Way I see it, Smackdown has more to gain than to give away simply because Raw has a larger roster to choose from and they have more "useful talent" that has the potential to be traded.

True, but how many guys are really potential top guys between the two? That I think is where the problem lies.

The cases for Raw to Smackdown and keep in mind that they're looking to replace their top babyface:
-Daniel Bryan desperately needs a change.

Agreed, but he won't be the top babyface carrying SD!. I just don't think he's anywhere near that. But he could be given a character like Benoit where he's the no frills, beat the piss out of you, kind of guy the fans get behind.

-Sin Cara will look better on the taped show since they can remove the botches.

Plus he would have the benefit of having guys like Mysterio and Del Rio who have already made that transition between Mexico to America and to WWE style to mentor him and help him avoid becoming the next Taka Michinoku.

-Evan Bourne had decent matches in ECW and may fair better on the secondary show.

Maybe, but right now he's still a jobber, still the change of scenery to try and "reset" him might be the way to go.

-Sheamus for mid title change.

I like it, I like the idea of Sheamus on SD! because he can then break through again to that top level while Miz continues to cement himself on RAW with CM Punk as "the other top heel".

-Morrison to bring over a top face

I agree, look, they don't like some of his outside the ring stuff but...if he's doing the job, if he's not doing things to embarrass the company, push him. He's a guy you desperately need to be another Shawn Michaels, problem is his attitude is very Shawn Michaels version 1. But if he gets drafted, and Mileena doesn't, we've seen JoMo tends to do much better when he's not around her all the time.

-R Truth to move his aging body/heel gimmick to the secondary show and/or to continue a feud with Morrison

How good is this long term for Morrison or anybody else? I mean, I guess we have the Fatal Four way PPV coming up so it can combine that issue with the Christian Del Rio issue and get all four a main event slot and PPV pay day. You know, I'm starting to warm up to this idea now that I think about it.

-Orton to be a top face

I see this happening, and to me it's a little scary because I then see WWE tending to rely on that crutch and saying "Ok, Orton is here, he can feud with Del Rio for months and months and everybody else can just go fuck themselves". I'm fine with them moving Orton if it's a package thing where you move Orton, and you also are moving other people like JoMo and you're looking to get these other potential pieces up to Orton's level.

-Miz for a top title change...assuming he keeps the title ;)

Honestly? No, leave Miz on RAW. Keep him feuding with guys like Cena. If they take your draft idea and move the other talents, RAW is very hurt in terms of what it has left. You take Miz away too and I think you really hurt the show that is the flagship. I also think Miz is getting cemented here as a top guy, and to send him away from that to SD! (and unless you're doing something where the World Title somehow finds it's way to RAW, then Miz has to lose the WWE title to Cena to keep that belt on RAW). I leave Miz alone.

-ADR for top title change...assuming he wins the title ;)

No, several reasons. ADR is still a very new character being built. SD! has a high latin audience, you will always need strong latin characters there to help you. I think Del Rio is a great case for creating a star that is associated very strongly with one particular brand. Plus I'm afraid they won't do right by him in a feud with Cena. Also if I leave Miz and Punk there, Del Rio becomes an automatic number 3 heel. On SD! he can pretty easily be a number 1.

-Wade for mid title change+to cap off the Corre's inevitable breakup

I could see Wade heading back over to RAW to be rebuilt. I also like the idea that you can either turn him face and let him feud with and beat his former Nexus cronies, or keep him heel and he can mess with some other mid-card faces they may move there in the draft.

-Kane and Big Show. New tag champs will be on both brands anyways so might as well put them on Raw to replace other talent going to Smackdown.

I got no objection here. They aren't really a positive or a negative to any show their on. For me they're just kind of "there" in terms of being attractions.

-Either Heath or Justin to break up their tag team (which I heard is somewhat of a tradition in the drafts)

I could see it being done...but it's too early, neither one of them has shown their ready to be a singles at this stage.

-Either Cody or Swagger to shake up heels on the shows.

I think Cody might be ready to head to RAW and make an impact. Swagger is getting a raised profile too, and is basically a defacto part of a Lawler feud, so he's on RAW all the time anyway, could be worth just making it official.

That's 8 cases for SD versus 6 for Raw and I'm assuming only 4 guys and 1 diva (notice I didn't mention any of them in the lists) are changing from each brand during Raw on Monday so not all of these picks will happen, but like I said, SD seems to have more to gain. That is unless they just completely treat some picks as a joke.

I'd say you'll get about 8 to 10 changes on the show, you usually do on a three hour show. You get one pick per match up, then there's that battle royal that's worth two picks to the winning show. The rest gets done on the site in the supplemental. So overall I could certainly see a case where we wash up with about 12 to 15 names changes scenery.

I see no point in trying to predict the draft. The draft is a joke. Superstars move and swap brands all year, whenever the WWE needs them to.
They moved the draft because Edge is retiring? Just move Orton or The miz over to smackdown and move on.

Hello all. You know I've been a Wrestling fan since the good ole' days of the WCW. Why is it that I watch the WWE? Because my family has always followed the World Heavyweight Championship. Now then.

As far as the WWE Draft goes I honestly don't know what to expect. I would like to see some of the members of Nexus and The Corre switched around. Also anyone pissed off about these groups? Nexus is just C.M. Punk's little personal army while The Corre seems to me like it's doing a bit better, but I still don't like it.

However I want to talk to you about one manager who seems to not get enough Love. He was The Undertaker's very first manager.

Brother Love
Theme Song

This duo does make sense. You have a preacher who spreads the word of love and forgiveness. And if you don't take the good Lord's teaching in hands then you will be buried by The Undertaker. I really would like Brother Love to come back as The Undertaker's manager, for one he never double crossed him like Paul Bearer has many many many times and I just think that the duo just works.

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Also I like the ritual at the end of the matches with Undertaker and Brother Love. With Paul Bearer it was bowing down to an urn. With Brother Love it was taking his rose and crumbling it up over the opponent.

With the new haircut, Ziggler looks too bland.. he should at least bleach it blonde again or something..

OK it's that time of the year again.. the draft! Since Edge has disappeared, I predict that Smackdown will get the better end of the stick this year.
here are my predictions

I'm really stumped on who will be going to RAW this year.. but here's what I got..
To RAW

Drew McIntyre
His time on Smackdown ended years ago in my opinion, I think I've made this prediction like 2 years in a row now.. put him on RAW, maybe have him in an alliance with Sheamus or something.. I think those 2 would go well together.

Kane
He's tag champ, but once that's over he'll be in midcard hell again.. Keep Show on SD though as they lack babyfaces..

Beth Phoenix
What the hell has happened to her? Last time I saw her she was in a tag team match with Rosa Mendes like 2 months ago.. I say chuck her to RAW.. looks like Awesome Kong will be heading there soon and that feud would be interesting.

Kofi Kingston
I'M SICK OF HIM IN AN IC TITLE FEUD!!!.. although if he's on RAW he'll just be in nothing but US title feuds.. oh well, shake things up right?..

Jack Swagger
I dunno if Swagger is turning on Cole or not now.. but I see him working with Cole for a while and has been appearing on RAW a lot lately so just go ahead and make it official.

Tyler Reks
He hasn't been getting much exposure on SD since his tiny push for Bragging Rights ended.. If this happens, I expect it to be in the Supplemental Draft.

To Smackdown

Ted Dibiase
This one seems to be obvious.. who the hell has Ted pissed off to get the treatment he's gotten lately?

Daniel Bryan
A couple of months ago I would of been against this move, but now I think it's the right thing to do.. He's recently lost the US title and after this feud with Sheamus he seems to be floating around.. I'd love to see him in a feud with Barrett for the IC title.. maybe eventually win it.. also I'm sick to death of seeing Kofi in the IC title picture..

Sin Cara
Firstly, I don't understand why the hell he ended up on RAW in the first place.. secondly he seems to be a bit on the botchy side since coming in.. I say put him on the taped show and I'd love to see him work with Mysterio, personally.

Evan Bourne
Lost on RAW for some time now.. have him on Smackdown.

Tyson Kidd
I see this happening on the Supplemental.. It seems they're using him (at best) more than DH Smith since they're break up, I say it's a better move than DH to Smackdown.

Zack Ryder
Another Supplemental.. his Youtube videos are a friggin hit.. Move him to Smackdown, turn him face and give him a bit of a push, he's been trying his hardest with these youtube vids to get his name out there, and it's working.. so why can't WWE go with the flow?

John Morrison
His run on SD was way better than his current run on RAW.. I know he's in the title match at Extreme Rules.. but the changes in the draft normally don't apply until after the PPV.. and Morrison isn't winning that match.. I'd personally love to see him in a feud with Cody Rhodes, I remember about a year ago now when they both got drafted, they had an awesome match.. would love to see more of it.

Call me sick and twisted, but I will mark out when Awesome Kong comes out and rapes all the eye candies. It is time to give the belt to a woman who can wrestle. >:)

At 4/24/11 04:30 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: Sin Cara
Firstly, I don't understand why the hell he ended up on RAW in the first place.. secondly he seems to be a bit on the botchy side since coming in.. I say put him on the taped show and I'd love to see him work with Mysterio, personally.

TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM MYSTERIO.
I HATE YOU ALL!

At 4/24/11 07:54 AM, Shaun wrote: TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM MYSTERIO.
I HATE YOU ALL!

I see Sin Cara feuding with ADR in the near future, they had backstage heat even before Sin Cara's debut. Both are great wrestlers, and the feud is going to be awesome if it is built the right way.

I accuse The-Great-One of being Bruce Prichard in disguise!!!!

At 4/24/11 01:41 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I accuse The-Great-One of being Bruce Prichard in disguise!!!!

I Love You

Last night I watched the Wrestling Road Diaries and my god it was a fantastic movie. It's technically a documentary but it doesn't feel like one.

I've heard Colt Cabana's podcast and know he's a funny guy, but I've never seen him wrestle before. After seeing the movie though, I want to see him wrestle live. His style is so unorthodox and yet so entertaining and there are ROH shows in Chicago soon. I'm thinking about going.

His podcast that I mentioned is free and updates once a week: http://tsmradio.com/coltcabana/

I didn't know how truly dedicated Bryan Danielson is to wrestling until I saw this. He wants to be the best at what he does and when he was teaching others, he wants them to be at their best too. He's the definition of down to earth and is very likable which shows because he has such tremendous talent but he doesn't let it go to his head. Couldn't say enough good things about him based on this.

Sal is just a funny guy and is the backbone of why the trio worked so well for following around.

I urge those who have not seen it, to do so. It's very funny and shows an interesting look into the world of Indy wrestling.

^^^^ROH tickets are discounted over the Easter Weekend, so I grabbed a ticket for 10 bucks. Going to the show on May 21st, and it will be my first live wrestling show.

At 4/24/11 11:18 PM, 36Holla wrote: ^^^^ROH tickets are discounted over the Easter Weekend, so I grabbed a ticket for 10 bucks. Going to the show on May 21st, and it will be my first live wrestling show.

I'm excited for you bro! There is nothing like live wrestling. I still fondly remember my first show (one of those very long WWF house shows back in the day when they would tape 2 to three weeks of superstars in a shot as well). I've also got wonderful memories of ECW shows I attended as well. Indy wrestling can be very good and one thing you won't be short on with the ROH product is wrestling.

As far as some comments I see on the Draft as not mattering because guys change brands a lot I'd say yes and no. WWE does occasionally trade or switch guys around but not nearly as much as they used to, and never really as much as when they do in a Draft because they've realized it's a show they can build up without having to give away too much truly great action. They have these 3 hour RAWs, USA makes them have them, so why shouldn't WWE try to get creative and turn them into "events"? Because otherwise you're just trying to convince the audience that an extra hour of what they get every week any way is somehow special and worth their time. In a worked business, I have to ask how much anything really "matters" in the grand scheme of things. If people want to have fun with ideas like the Draft, why poo poo it? What are they hurting by simply being fans every once in awhile?

At 4/24/11 11:37 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: As far as some comments I see on the Draft as not mattering because guys change brands a lot I'd say yes and no.

I agree with you to an extent, I used to love the draft. It used to be an event.
You had the locker rooms backstage in their Raw/Smackdown tshirts and there was tension and excitment and GMs coming out and making decisions that changed the shows.

Now you have "random" changes based on who wins matches. It isn't interesting. It isn't exciting. It isn't good television.

I think they also make too many changes with the supp. draft.. completely reversing the lower cards on the shows doesnt really mix things up. Unless your going to see something different at house shows.. which I can't go to so it doesn't appeal to me.

In terms of 3 hour raw events, you can't go past King of the ring. Any three hour RAW events along those type of lines I am all for.