Wow, that is quite surprising. With HBK and HHH resembling some sort of immortals, who can be slowed but never stopped, Legacy managed to get the win. The Boston Crab/Camel Clutch combo in the chair was pretty awesome, too.

I've decided that, if the I Quit match involves Orton rolling a car over Cena's stomach to force him to quit, then I'd be totally OK with that. Only equal or greater acts of evil will make this match tolerable. None of this vintage viper shit, no slithering around the ring. Just chop some fingers off with pliers if you need to. Make this match cool.

OMG, it's a fucking screwjob! It's a bit of a disappointing end to the show, but if you want some way for Punk to retain against Taker, then a screwjob in Montreal works quite well.

Also, I loved Punk bringing up Jeff's arrest earlier in the show. The WWE have every right to take advantage of Jeff's idiocy for their gain.

LEGACY WON!?!?!?!?!?

WOW. Creative must REALLY want those two to be the future of the business to pin two guys who normally wouldn't job to anyone. That's saying something.

Of course Cena won. Big fucking DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH.

After reviewing the main event, a few things become clear:

1. Damn sure looks like the rumors about Taker are true. He just ain't moving like he did, and maybe the rest is consequently true also. Damn, I knew this day would come sooner rather then later, but I'm not ready for it yet.

2. They have some real work to do on SD! with this one or they pure and simple fucked Punk. They had Punk getting basically dominated here, tapping out. Then he wins via a screwjob. A screwjob in Montreal. Now unless Punk masterminded this screwjob they've now stolen pretty much all his heat and are going to put it on whoever DID mastermind it. They need Punk to have known about this and they need the champ to be a focal point in it, if not the man behind it (though I suspect it'll turn out to be Vince).

3. The finish itself sucked. To pay 40 bucks and get a simulated version of a real event from 10 years ago. This is why WWE and Vince come off like such scumbags a lot of the time. Because they'll defend Montreal as something they had to do to protect their business at a desperate time, but then they take every opportunity to reference it and basically make fun of it. So you know what? Let's just admit that Vince is proud of it, he's proud he got one over on Bret and showed Bret he's not bigger then Vince. Move on you fucking child. They booked themselves into a corner and this is how they get out? Weak. Hopefully the SD! team will bail us out and they don't piss away the only good thing Jeff Hardy can still hang his hat on: Building Punk. But again, I hear things that make me not so sure.

What a sad ass show that was last night. Sad on so many levels.

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Man Hardy's pretty much just dug his grave in the wrestling business... or in WWE at least..
he can kiss his return goodbye, hell he might aswell retire from the wrestling business, he could be doing 3 - 14 years..
it's so ironic that just before he left smackdown he was fighting for his dignity against CM Punk about the whole drug habit thing, yet just after he leaves he's busted for a shit load of pills and some coke..

Honestly, I consider Jeff one of my favorite wrestlers, and i hope he does get help and can one day make a comeback.. but sadly i don't think that will be the case. I just really hope these bad events don't rub off onto Matt Hardy and have WWE start treating him like shit for his brother's actions.. Matt's pretty much been a clean guy through his whole wrestling career, he hasn't been suspended, he hasn't been busted with any drugs, he's been involved with one personal controversial story, and it got him fired over it, but even WWE could see that he wasn't in the wrong so they rehired him shortly after.

also i heard that WWE were intending on making a DVD about Jeff Hardy but it's quickly been scrapped after what happened, not to mention if anyone saw breaking point yesterday, even though he didn't come out and say it was Jeff Hardy, Punk pretty much maid an "I told you so" statement during one an interview segment.

anyway on a different note, Batista to Smackdown again... ugh, smackdown was doing so good.. now batista's coming to wreck it.. i wouldn't sweat it though, his 'annual injury' will take place soon.

At 9/15/09 01:00 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: Man Hardy's pretty much just dug his grave in the wrestling business... or in WWE at least..
he can kiss his return goodbye, hell he might aswell retire from the wrestling business, he could be doing 3 - 14 years..

If convicted. I think he should be able to plead on this, say it was all for his personal use and have the shit confiscated and do some drug treatment program and maybe a little jail time. But I'm not a lawyer, I'm not sure how feasible that is. But I don't believe he was looking to sell.

it's so ironic that just before he left smackdown he was fighting for his dignity against CM Punk about the whole drug habit thing, yet just after he leaves he's busted for a shit load of pills and some coke..

Yep. But it also points out what everybody who said after his last wellness violation said is true: Jeff Hardy seems intent on self-destructing and fucking up his opportunities in life.

Honestly, I consider Jeff one of my favorite wrestlers, and i hope he does get help and can one day make a comeback.. but sadly i don't think that will be the case. I just really hope these bad events don't rub off onto Matt Hardy and have WWE start treating him like shit for his brother's actions..

I'm sure a lot of people feel that way, but considering he was used as Punk's punching bag the last couple of weeks because Taker isn't going to work TV well...and if Taker is getting a rematch at HIAC...yeah, future may not be too bright for brother Matt.

Matt's pretty much been a clean guy through his whole wrestling career, he hasn't been suspended, he hasn't been busted with any drugs, he's been involved with one personal controversial story, and it got him fired over it, but even WWE could see that he wasn't in the wrong so they rehired him shortly after.

But Matt does like to talk about things they don't like him to talk about. I could see that being a problem here unless Matt is willing to be very smart and shut up about Jeff.

also i heard that WWE were intending on making a DVD about Jeff Hardy but it's quickly been scrapped after what happened, not to mention if anyone saw breaking point yesterday, even though he didn't come out and say it was Jeff Hardy, Punk pretty much maid an "I told you so" statement during one an interview segment.

Oh Punk absolutely mentioned him by name, he did come right out and say it. I would also say that yeah, the DVD is well and truly scrapped now and WWE has lost time and money on that thing and that's probably a big reason they were willing to have Punk go out there and say what he said. That and just wanting to be as clear as possible as quickly as possible in saying "we are not associated with this man"

anyway on a different note, Batista to Smackdown again... ugh, smackdown was doing so good.. now batista's coming to wreck it.. i wouldn't sweat it though, his 'annual injury' will take place soon.

Depends on what is done with big Dave and if he brings his working boots. So this probably depends on if he was forced over or he volunteered, certainly he's going to be at or near the top, but I gotta wonder how much longer Batista is going to want to be in the game anyway.

At 9/15/09 01:00 AM, Random-Her03 wrote:
anyway on a different note, Batista to Smackdown again... ugh, smackdown was doing so good.. now batista's coming to wreck it.. i wouldn't sweat it though, his 'annual injury' will take place soon.

That isn't nice. No matter who the wrestler is I never wish injury upon them. I don't think having Batista on SD will be a terrible thing as he is capable of having decent matches. Besides, I think he has a few good years left before he calls it quits. I'm sure he will get a shot at whoever is champion in the coming months and he may even get another title run but I think it will turn out ok. SD is better written then Raw so there are good opportunities for some good storylines to be made with Batista around.

From wrestlezone:
The next three-hour edition of WWE RAW has been confirmed for November 23rd in Hershey, PA.

As is the case with past three-hour RAWs, talent from all three WWE brands are scheduled to appear on the show.

Batista going to SD leads me to believe that Punk will beat Taker at Hell in a Cell (I'm assuming we're going to get a rematch), and then feud with The Animal for the rest of the year.

Also, some good news for Kurt Angle:

All charges against TNA World Hvt. champion Kurt Angle have been dropped from his August arrest in the Pittsburgh area, reports the local ABC affiliate.

The charges against Angle for violating a Protection From Abuse, Harassment, Driving with a suspended license, and HGH possession were all dismissed by a judge this morning. A ruling has not been announced yet on what led to the charges being dropped.

Angle's accuser, ex-girlfriend Trenesha Biggers (Rhaka Khan), did not speak with reporters outside of the court house on Tuesday morning after the decision was announced. Kurt Angle and his attorney are expected to make a comment shortly.

The attorney for TNA World Hvt. champion Kurt Angle says the state of Pennsylvania dropped charges against Angle of HGH possession and driving with a suspended license after Angle's side brought evidence to court today disproving the charges.

"Kurt has a prescription for the growth hormone. Growth hormone was prescribed by a doctor in 2006," Angle's attorney told reporters today. "It was under our obligation to bring that proof today."

Angle's attorney says the state dropped the HGH possession charge based on the proof.

Regarding the charge of Angle driving with a suspended license when he was arrested on August 15, Angle's attorney says Angle was "not under suspension at the time" of his arrest.

"That case was under appeal and we brought records of that as well and they properly withdrew that charge."

He does still have the initial assault charge that Biggers used to obtain the order of protection to begin with against him though. But this case I'd say is good news towards that as Biggers's credibility is damaged now. Speaking of charges, Mike Johnson is reporting this is the list Jeff Hardy will officially face and when:

Jeff Hardy's first court hearing will be the morning of Wednesday 9/30 to face the following charges:

*Felony possession of cocaine.

*Felony drug trafficking of opium

*Felony possession with intent to redistribute a Schedule III drug (two counts).

*Maintaining a dwelling for drug use and/or distribution.

*Possession of drug paraphernalia. (misdemeanor)

It should be noted that trafficking charges will be related to the weight of the pills Hardy had in his home. Should Hardy be able to provide a legitimate prescription for some/all the painkillers, the weight would be reduced, leading to charges being dropped/reduced as well. That's all conjecture based on the possibility of legitimate prescriptions, however.

Hardy promised to make a further statement last Friday via his twitter account, but as of yet has not beyond thanking fans for their support.

Four words after seeing Trish hosting: She's still got it. :P She's easily done the best of the guest hosts so far. Actually, the whole show was better than it's been in some time. Not quite used to the new hair color, however..... -_-

I hope to hell this means that Chavo is done embarrassing himself at Swaggle's expense........ *crosses fingers* Just have it between him & Bourne instead - both will actually, y'know, BENEFIT.

The DX/Legacy squareoff was nicely done; the HiaC match should be particularly brutal.

At 9/15/09 03:24 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Also, some good news for Kurt Angle:

Nice to hear something like this after this other shit......

Rhaka (or whatever) 's career is now toast; trying to frame one of the top stars ain't good for one's cred.

At 9/15/09 04:08 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Speaking of charges, Mike Johnson is reporting this is the list Jeff Hardy will officially face and when:

Jeff Hardy's first court hearing will be the morning of Wednesday 9/30 to face the following charges:

*Felony possession of cocaine.

*Felony drug trafficking of opium

*Felony possession with intent to redistribute a Schedule III drug (two counts).

*Maintaining a dwelling for drug use and/or distribution.

*Possession of drug paraphernalia. (misdemeanor)

It should be noted that trafficking charges will be related to the weight of the pills Hardy had in his home. Should Hardy be able to provide a legitimate prescription for some/all the painkillers, the weight would be reduced, leading to charges being dropped/reduced as well. That's all conjecture based on the possibility of legitimate prescriptions, however.

Hardy promised to make a further statement last Friday via his twitter account, but as of yet has not beyond thanking fans for their support.

................
He ain't getting out of this one; whether he has prescriptions for the painkillers or not, COCAINE IS STILL ILLEGAL. Yeah, I'd say he's fucked......

ECW was decent last night. I was suprised as hell that Ryder of all people is the #1 contender. I'll be honest, I never would have picked him to win that battle royal. Crowd seemed to really be behind Golddust which is a little odd but I guess he's found some new momentum for his career.

According to PWInsider.com, both Jim Cornette and BG James have been released from TNA. Supposedly this was a move to get rid of those who support Jeff Jarrett.

In some sad news, Mick Foley's father has passed away. My best wishes go out to him and his family.

According to PWInsider.com, WWE Superstar The Great Khali is currently set to undergo knee surgery in the near future.

At 9/16/09 09:17 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: According to PWInsider.com, both Jim Cornette and BG James have been released from TNA. Supposedly this was a move to get rid of those who support Jeff Jarrett.

PWInsider reported the releases, but I do not recall them reporting that bit. Especially when you consider Jarrett is doing press praising Angle and will soon return.

Jim Cornette has already made a statement in which he burns the bridge and buries TNA without coming right out and burying them. It's a hysterical read.

In some sad news, Mick Foley's father has passed away. My best wishes go out to him and his family.

Absolutely, Mick wrote extensively about his father in his first autobiography and that his father was actually the inspiration for the Cactus Jack name. My condolences as well to the Foley's at this very sad time.

According to PWInsider.com, WWE Superstar The Great Khali is currently set to undergo knee surgery in the near future.

You hate to say "yay!" when a guy is hurt but...no Khali on my TV for awhile is in no way a bad thing.

Also Linda has stepped down as CEO and running for Senate...Vince gets her job in addition to his...I think I hear the distinctive thud of people jumping out windows at Titan.

At 9/15/09 07:11 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: That isn't nice. No matter who the wrestler is I never wish injury upon them. I don't think having Batista on SD will be a terrible thing as he is capable of having decent matches. Besides, I think he has a few good years left before he calls it quits. I'm sure he will get a shot at whoever is champion in the coming months and he may even get another title run but I think it will turn out ok. SD is better written then Raw so there are good opportunities for some good storylines to be made with Batista around.

It's not that i want him to get injured.. but it is bound to happen. He's one of the most fragile wrestlers i've seen if not the most fragile. Also I really preferred him on RAW, he made smackdown... kinda boring.. If you look through the ppvs when dave was on sd, you'll notice he was in mostly every smackdown main event, it really got tiresome just seeing him on smackdown every week.. that's why i was glad to see him drafted to RAW.

If I were able to suggest something to wwe, turn him heel.. his babyface character really brings nothing to the table anymore.. he needs a update.

On another note, I hear Hogan is having a tour across Australia where he'll be vs'ing flair.. as an Australian I'm wondering on whether or not i should go, one of my friends has showed interest.. while I'm a fan of Classic Flair and Hogan, now days i think a match between them 2 will be mediocre.. But one of the only reason I'm thinking about going is that it'll probably be a once in a lifetime thing, I can tell my kids in the future that i've seen 2 of the most famous wrestlers go against eachother live.

also i hear kennedy (or anderson now) and DDP are gonna be there too aswell as alot of old wwe wreslters.. I haven't seen DDP in a ring in like 7 years.. that should be pretty awesome to see.

At 9/17/09 05:21 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: also i hear kennedy (or anderson now) and DDP are gonna be there too aswell as alot of old wwe wreslters.. I haven't seen DDP in a ring in like 7 years.. that should be pretty awesome to see.

oh scratch that.. I just read that DDP isn't going infact, he wasn't even contacted at all about the tour... that sucks..

I watched ECW the other day.. I'm actually starting to like ECW, they have pretty good wrestlers on there when you think about it... Christian, Shelton, Regal, Ryders improving heaps, as is Ezekiel Jackson.. Goldust, Sheamus is on a roll
I like that they're giving Ryder a push for the ECW title.. even though he lost in a match earlier that night which i don't get.. But it's good to see alot of different wreslters getting chances at the title.

At 9/17/09 08:21 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: So, I just found out the roster for Smackdown vs Raw 2010.

No Zack Ryder or Hart Dynasty makes me feel all sad inside. Although Natalya IS in, so maybe Smith and Kidd are secret unlockables or something. Hell, even freakin' Goldust made it in.

Ryder, Sheamus and Yoshi for DLC plskthx

Today Dusty Rhodes, Bob Orton, Ted Dibiase & Vince McMahon were revealed as unlockables (or legends).. If there are any more unlockables (which is a fair chance that there could be) Ryder and Hart Dynasty will definately be in there.. remember, for last year they didn't reveal the unlockable wrestlers in the countdown until the actual game came out.

if not, they will be DLC... Ryder is a big personality in ECW.. not to mention the Hart Dynasty.. it would be unusual for THQ to turn a blind eye one them. I also have a feeling that Hurricane would be in the DLC section too.

if goddamn Jesse and Festus are in the game, why cant Ryder and Hart Dynasty be too?

I highly doubt Hurricane will be in the game. He just recently made a comeback and the developers wouldn't have time to add him in. As for the rest, they always leave people out who are on the active roster. it's happened for every WWF/E game ever made. I haven't bought them for a while so I don't care as much about it as I used to..

The Teddy-trapped-with-the-Undertaker thing literally made me facepalm. More corny than Iowa.

LET ME OUT LET ME OUT

At 9/18/09 08:56 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: The Teddy-trapped-with-the-Undertaker thing literally made me facepalm. More corny than Iowa.

LET ME OUT LET ME OUT

I thought it was awesome, but maybe that's just me & avie. :P

At 9/18/09 01:20 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: Today Dusty Rhodes, Bob Orton, Ted Dibiase & Vince McMahon were revealed as unlockables (or legends)..

Bob Orton? Really? Bob fucking Orton? I always wonder why they keep putting Vince in there too, unless the idea is they figure people will just repeatedly like using him as tackling dummy. But when they put guys like Orton in there it's just such a waste of a character space to me.

If there are any more unlockables (which is a fair chance that there could be) Ryder and Hart Dynasty will definately be in there.. remember, for last year they didn't reveal the unlockable wrestlers in the countdown until the actual game came out.

Yeah, but I also think they could wind up left off because of how long it takes to develop something like this. If an act isn't established enough to be a big part of shows with enough lead time, they won't wind up in the game. So I could see there being a good or real possibility they'll be left off.

if not, they will be DLC... Ryder is a big personality in ECW.. not to mention the Hart Dynasty.. it would be unusual for THQ to turn a blind eye one them. I also have a feeling that Hurricane would be in the DLC section too.

I could see them all being in the first batch of DLC (provided Ryder is actually getting a sustained push). I do know Natalya made the cut to the main roster though, so we'll see.

if goddamn Jesse and Festus are in the game, why cant Ryder and Hart Dynasty be too?

Good point, but like I say, I think it'll be a DLC kind of thing. Dibiase debuted in July last year and couldn't make it into the game until the first DLC pack. So I would have to think if you weren't a major guy or on TV regularly by say, May, you didn't make the roster cut.

At 9/18/09 09:15 PM, Assi9 wrote: I thought it was awesome, but maybe that's just me & avie. :P

I haven't peeped the show yet, so I'll reserve any sort of judgement till I do. Still it's nice to see you crazy kids thinking enough of my opinion to try and sneak in "well avie liked it so it must be good" in there...but probably shouldn't make a habit of it. Cause if you try it and I hate it, I will say so publicly. Fair warnings biznitches ;) :p

At 9/19/09 12:24 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Good point, but like I say, I think it'll be a DLC kind of thing. Dibiase debuted in July last year and couldn't make it into the game until the first DLC pack. So I would have to think if you weren't a major guy or on TV regularly by say, May, you didn't make the roster cut.

Yeah true, but Ryder's new gimmick and Kidd debuted pretty early on this year.. Ryder was like April, Kidd was in February.. ok maybe DH Smith arrived a bit too late.. Ryder was appearing regularly on ECW as was Smith, but i understand that both are only in the midcard level.. but then whenever i see that Jesse and Festus made it in, it just makes me think why couldn't they pull some strings to get Kidd and Ryder in.. especially Kidd seeing how early in the year he debuted... but hey there's still some hope.

I kinda like the idea of Bob Orton, Dusty Rhodes and Ted Sr. being in, especially Dusty seeing as now Dusty, Cody & Goldust are all in the same game.

I enjoyedSD for the most part. The limo bit was a bit silly but fun to watch. It was good to see the Hart's get a win in Canada. I hope they eventually get a shot at the tag titles.

Morrison had a decent match with Knox too. I ended up missing the main event so I don't know how Batista did with Jericho. I'd imagine it would at least be decent since it had Jericho in it.

We never really got a real reason why Taker was cheated. I'm guessing Vince may have had something to do with it by looking at how Teddy acted. Guess we'll find out more as time goes on.

At 9/19/09 12:26 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I haven't peeped the show yet, so I'll reserve any sort of judgement till I do. Still it's nice to see you crazy kids thinking enough of my opinion to try and sneak in "well avie liked it so it must be good" in there...but probably shouldn't make a habit of it. Cause if you try it and I hate it, I will say so publicly. Fair warnings biznitches ;) :p

Well, it's Taker at his most classic; if you DON'T like it, I'll be surprised. :P

At 9/19/09 01:57 PM, Assi9 wrote: Well, it's Taker at his most classic; if you DON'T like it, I'll be surprised. :P

Ok, here's my thoughts on that, and why SD! was a real mixed bag for me last night:

1. The booking on this angle and then sketch didn't work for me: So Teddy screwed the Undertaker all by himself? Why? Because he has a family to feed...um...ok? That doesn't actually explain anything. Is CM Punk drawing higher ratings? Is Undertaker somehow unworthy to be champion? The problem here is that he didn't really explain anything. This is something you do to turn an authority figure heel, WWE should freakin well know this because they are the company that perpetrated Montreal and exploited it to their advantage. It's amazing to me this is the same company. They dropped that ball so bad.

2. Fun with the post production truck: This concept was great and harkened back to the old style Attitude era angles where the wrestler waits and gets his vengeance, particularly Taker. The problem for me was the smoke, the lightning, and all the other stuff that takes me out of the moment. When it happens in an arena I can still feel there's an element of reality to it, but when it's so obviously dubbed over a taped segment it just tends to look hokie. I think they should have just gone with Teddy banging on the doors trying to get out, maybe poured in the smoke, but stopped at the smoke. The lights and the lightning was just too damn much.

3. Placement: Um, memo to WWE, this was put in the WRONG DAMN SPOT ON THE SHOW!! Like seriously it was so glaring I had to wonder if somebody fucked with the tape and they somehow ran it out of order. This is your ending. I thought it was especially asining to send Punk out to cut a promo after Teddy Long admitted everything was a conspiracy and Punk acted like he won fair and square. I guess they thought it made Punk look more like a hypocrite and a phony, and true, it does. But it could also be taken as "wow, Punk is a real idiot because he doesn't pay attention to anything else on this show. This should have been you're big tense moment. With Teddy in the office worried about what Taker might do to him, jumping at every noise, looking around every corner. THEN he can be forced out by Vince and made to explain, and THEN Taker kidnap him. Again, to me this reminded me of the angle where Taker kidnapped Stephanie back in the Ministry days, and that angle was quite effective, in large part because it was THE LAST THING ON THE SHOW!!! The audience was left going "holy hell, he got her, what happens next week?!". Same thing could have been done here, I don't think we needed to close with Batista over Jericho.

So I think it was a strong concept, but WWE's execution was pretty piss poor and I can't help but look at this as wasted opportunity. I know the spooky is a big part of Taker, I love the spooky with this character, it's a big reason he first caught my attention and why I followed him...but sometimes WWE pushes it into too unrealistic terms and this was definitely one of those times. So hopefully they recover next week, but they really didn't do a good job of washing the bad from Breaking Point away for me. Hopefully they come back strong next week on that score.

Otherwise I thought you got a pretty good show. Morrison over Knox was pretty good for what it was, the abscence of Khali has been explained and hopefully it'll lead to a better feud for Kane (he deserves it) and I liked that The Hart Dynasty picked up a win, they need some more though because you can't just keep telling people how good a young team they are but keep having them lose. I mean that's like saying "well hey this team has a lot of great potential" but they can't win games. You know what people think of that team? That their LOSERS and not worth their time.

Anyone else catch JR tripping on Kanye West? You just know he was fed that line and I think he was publicly bitching out whoever fed that into the headset to him as he got admonished. Kind of surprised they didn't edit that bit out.

At 9/20/09 12:46 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

Anyone else catch JR tripping on Kanye West? You just know he was fed that line and I think he was publicly bitching out whoever fed that into the headset to him as he got admonished. Kind of surprised they didn't edit that bit out.

Yeah, I caught it since he got the name wrong at first. JR must be getting sick of beign fed stuff to say. He's arguable one of the best commentators around yet he's forced to waste time with dumb crap like that.

I don't know if I'm ready for a lengthy Cena title run. I kinda hope a new heel challenger takes the belt this time instead of Orton. Not really sure who that could be though...

At 9/20/09 08:10 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I don't know if I'm ready for a lengthy Cena title run. I kinda hope a new heel challenger takes the belt this time instead of Orton. Not really sure who that could be though...

Well, I'm truly wondering whether Hell In A Cell will be the last match between these two. HHH, Cena, and Orton have been ever-present in the main event picture for what seems like decades, and they will probably find a way to have another rematch before they try something fresh.

Looking at the roster, I can't see anyone they could put in there either. Ideally, it would be someone like Jack Swagger, but that's never going to happen. If they aren't going to elevate anyone, then they don't have any main eventers left.

At 9/20/09 12:46 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 9/19/09 01:57 PM, Assi9 wrote: Well, it's Taker at his most classic; if you DON'T like it, I'll be surprised. :P

Ok, here's my thoughts on that, and why SD! was a real mixed bag for me last night:

True, it was a bit hokey, badly-timed, and made Punk look slightly stupid, but I did catch something: While Long said he did it because of his family, he had implied it was truly McMahon's idea during their confrontation just before he went out. I smell Long turning on McMahon at some point......

I smell Punk and Vince joining forces at some point. Similar to Vince's corporate champion once upon a time. Hell, it doesn't get better than a champion who's doesn't drink or smoke.

You know, we barely mention TNA anymore, but I have to give them some props for what they did last night. THEY LET AJ STYLES WIN THE TNA TITLE! Thank you, TNA!

At 9/21/09 11:43 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I smell Punk and Vince joining forces at some point. Similar to Vince's corporate champion once upon a time. Hell, it doesn't get better than a champion who's doesn't drink or smoke.

That was my hope if Vince had turned out to be behind it. That he'd smartly transfer most of the heet onto the actual wrestler. But again, it seemed to me like Friday they were trying to say it was only Teddy, the referee, and Punk who perpetrated this, and Vince didn't like it.

You know, we barely mention TNA anymore, but I have to give them some props for what they did last night. THEY LET AJ STYLES WIN THE TNA TITLE! Thank you, TNA!

Now let's see how long that lasts and what they do with it...after all it's just about time for Sting's annual "win the title so I don't have to retire" storyline.

Swagger no Swiping!

I'm impressed that the US title match is getting built up, pretty decently I might add. Imagine how much more could have been done if the PPVs weren't so close together.