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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-07 20:41:25


Also they should try to be somewhat creative about the naming. Like ok, Breaking Point is submission matches in the main event, but they didn't call it "submission match". No Way Out is double elimination chambers, but again, isn't called "elimination chamber". I don't really even see why No Mercy or Armageddon had to be dropped as names.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-07 20:47:23


I think that they're planning to make the Hell in a Cell and TLC matches exclusive to the pay per views that are named after them. Keeping them rare by using them once a year at those events. Which is stupid because they just had a TLC match at Summerslam. And sorry to go off topic, but I posted some WWE comedy that I wrote on my blog, if anyones interested.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-08 01:14:58


At 9/7/09 08:47 PM, stark2002 wrote: I think that they're planning to make the Hell in a Cell and TLC matches exclusive to the pay per views that are named after them. Keeping them rare by using them once a year at those events. Which is stupid because they just had a TLC match at Summerslam.

Which is a problem I forsee happening myself. If you're going to have a PPV for HIAC, then how do you use that match on any other PPV? You really shouldn't because it'll dilute your main show with that as the gimmick. Ditto the others. I have heard rumblings though WWE is looking to scale back the number of PPV's they do. Which is fine and I think if you're going to gimmick up the B-Shows then it's necessary....but again, let's say we cut it back to only one show a month, and every show is gimmicked, I still think you're in the shit come shows like Mania or SS. Mania at least has the name, has the two gimmicks of Taker's streak match (for now) and MITB. SS has no inherent gimmick hook. Survivor Series has it's team elimination gimmick, Rumble has the battle royal. I still think there's a good chance though of burning out these gimmick bouts and WWE will either be forced to come up with new ideas, or really really improve just straight up match quality. Going to be interesting going forward.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-08 21:53:07


So Batista is going to be on Raw next week? I don't care really, he'll just get injured again. I am happy to see Trish guest hosting.

Wow, in Cena vs Rhodes it kind of looked like they were booking Cody to appear competent. It was a decent match.

I hate AJ Pierzyncski. He wasn't what ruined the show for me though. No US Title time is what did it. But hey, this is the last show before the PPV, no time for a second hand belt. It isn't like we have a phenomenal super star with the belt and numerous contenders.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-09 08:33:56


I missed Raw on Monday. How did Barker do as a host? Was it as awkward as I imagine?

ECW was great last night. It featured some decent matches that I really enjoyed. The opening bout between Hurricane and Burchil was a solid match. Both guys got some impressive offense in. I also enjoyed the two tag matches. Dreamer and Christian seem to work well as a team despite them losing.

So Trish is going to be the next host huh? Man, now that I think about it, she is one of those people I miss seeing each week.

We also found out that Batista returns. I guess he'll be put right into the main event against Orton so that they can pick up where they left off. I just hope he doesn't get hurt again.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-09 21:14:40


Raw was ok this week, nothing to special went on.

What did you guys think of all of the DX stuff thats going on? To me it's just not as funny as the stuff that they were doing in 2006. When they were doing there skits i was thinking Why they would ever say that or do that.... leaves me to think they arn't gettin creative control over this. I would think they would since both seem to put some great things together when given creative contol over things.

I just think after this ppv :::don't remember the name::: they should just split up again since it's doing nothing for either of them. I think shawn should be thrown in a fued with randy and HHH should help some of the younger stars like MVP....that would be a good match.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-10 00:07:48


At 9/9/09 08:33 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I missed Raw on Monday. How did Barker do as a host? Was it as awkward as I imagine?

Could've been worse. There were some stupid parts, but the beginning part with Jericho was funny. Cody Rhodes actually looked like a threat as a singles competitor for a change. Chavo wasn't embarrassed as badly as last week, given the match wasn't actually against Swaggle FOR ONCE. But then Barker kicked his ass later, so............ >.<


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-10 11:14:57


Ziggler vs Morrison apparently WON'T take place at Breaking Point.

From Jr's Blog:

It looks as if the pending John Morrison vs. Dolph Ziggler IC Title bout will take place after Sunday's PPV at some point TBD. I have high expectations for this rivalry and feel that these two men can have a heck of a series going forward.

The match has also been taken off the match line-up on WWE.com

The good news, now Khali vs Kane can get some more time... Yup.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-10 15:21:22


I wonder why they moved their match back? Do you think it was to allow them more time to work on their in-ring performances or were they bumped to give more time to some other match?

I'm a bit let down by this as I'm sure that would have been a very good PPV match. Course I wouldn't have seen it until later but that's besides the point.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-10 17:12:57


At 9/10/09 11:14 AM, pepeatumi wrote: The good news, now Khali vs Kane can get some more time... Yup.

I'd like to imagine Regal and Christian will get more than 2 seconds this time around, but you're probably right.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 00:41:32


At 9/10/09 03:21 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I wonder why they moved their match back? Do you think it was to allow them more time to work on their in-ring performances or were they bumped to give more time to some other match?

Perhaps they hoped to build the rivalry more or they saw something on a house show practice run they didn't like (or perhaps it's because they couldn't get a house show practice run in with enough time before the PPV). Morrison and Ziggler are two guys they've pushed hard with a lot of upside. So if this is a situation where they held off saying "better safe then sorry" on having two guys they've invested a lot of time in have a bad match and have their standing be hurt, WWE should be applauded. I'm also glad that WWE made this announcement well in advance of the show instead of what they've done in some instances where it's "hey now that we have your money....you're getting less then what you paid for".


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 15:48:33


BREAKING NEWS:

Jeff Hardy has been arrested for possession of anabolic steroids and a number of pills, reports ThePilot.com, a local newspaper from Moore County where Jeff Hardy is located.

Here is the newspaper source: Jeff Arrested

Why do I get teh feeling that the WWE is sudenly glad he decided to leave? CM Punk was right...

*Sorry Hardy fans*


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 16:11:07


I haven't watched WWE in weeks and have slowly lost interest in it I guess. Maybe it's the lack of Jeff Hardy, maybe it's the fact that I'm growing up and off to Uni, or maybe it's the crap product. I did this about seven years ago and didn't get back into it until about two or three ago. Maybe i'll be back in another four or five. We shall see. Keep on rocking guys :D


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 17:01:08


Also from Hardy's twitter.

"Alot of exaggerations are out there today, don't believe everything you read 4 it is not true, I am at home and fine-thanks for your concern"


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 18:11:20


Hmmm? Should I believe Deputy Neil Godfrey of the Moore County Sheriff's Department in Cartage, North Carolina, or should I believe the dude with a PAST HISTORY OF DRUG USE AND ABUSE?!?

Decisions, decisions >_>

Jeff Hardy is a f'n joke! And I know someone will post about how the guy has "problems", but the fact is the guy has no desire to change his lifestyle. He's a flat-out joke!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 19:14:45


Eugh, Jeff Hardy is a mess. I don't know whether to feel happy that I was right all along to not trust Hardy, or whether to feel sad and angry for what he's done.

Sure, he hasn't done anything on the level of Chris Benoit, but who can see the Jeff Hardy story end in any other way than tragedy?

You might think he bailed out just at the right time to avoid getting his 3rd strike and ruining his career, but in some ways, this is even worse for him and the WWE. I heard that they were planning to get behind Jeff. They were planning to support his outside endeavours, and eventually bring him back, but how can they do that now? If he were still employed, he'd have his 3rd strike and be gone from the WWE forever.

The WWE can't bring him back now. You can't bring back someone who obviously can't change. He has refused to go to rehab, and he obviously can't control his problems of his own accord. If they bring him back, it makes a mockery of the Wellness policy, but further, you run the risk of Hardy ODing under your supposedly tight watch.

I hope Jeff can change his ways. Hell, according to the man himself, he has been misrepresented throughout this whole thing, but I've trusted him before. It didn't go well.

So in conclusion, fuck Jeff Hardy. I hate to think that he is idolised by so many kids, and he is quite possibly the worst role model you could give to them, whereas the best role model is currently the top heel on Smackdown. Hell, one of the top babyfaces is at this very moment on a 30 day vacation for violating the wellness policy.

And if he's innocent, then I take it all back.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 20:17:34


OMFG Taker's wearing the WM Garb of Awesomeness!!!!!!! But I think he's starting to lose his edge on the mic a bit....

For Hardy's sake, I hope that arrest IS a mistake - or else he's fucked.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-11 23:40:55


I enjoyed SD for the most part. There were some things I didn't pay much attention to, like the divas match and the altercation between Kane and Khali. Other than that a solid show. The opening bout between Finley and Knox was decent and the main event was damn good. I like how they put over the vice move Punk does. I really hope he is able to retain Sunday. His title run feels like it is just getting warmed up.

This is a link to the offical police statement on the arrest of Jeff. Statement

Jeff said that he will issue a statement of his own at a later time. We'll see how his side of the story compares to what the police say.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-12 01:38:43


Fuck Jeff Hardy.

Jeff Hardy had a massive supply of pills. Either that was Jeff's stash he planned to party with, which is wrong. Or Jeff planned to distribute those, which is even more despicable. This is going to be a real shit storm for WWE, it makes the wellness policy look pretty freakin bad as Dave Scherer pointed out (they didn't catch Benoit who also had ridiculous levels of roids found in his home, they did not catch Jeff now). But there's just the simple fact that once again Jeff Hardy fails everyone who supported him, and he continues to injure himself and those who care for him.

How can WWE take him back now? They shouldn't unless he can prove he's successfully completed a rehab program. That reality show? I think that can be kissed goodbye now, he's too radioactive for that. His band? Well I guess there's still going to be the Hardy marks that will go see their drug addled hero do whatever.

Did Jeff Hardy subject himself to a shit load of abuse and kill himself? Yes, yes he did. He had massive injuries coming out of WWE. Do I personally know of people who are at this present time self medicating work related injuries with pain pills and alcohol? Yes, yes I do. But not to this level, also I am in that situation doing what I feel it is my place to do by urging that person to seek medical treatment, to not simply mask the pain with the pain killers, and to just take care of themselves. I wonder if Jeff has anybody doing that for him? It seems to me not if Matt came by and bailed him out. Matt probably honestly thinks he's helping his brother here, but at this point I believe what Jeff needs is forced rehab as part of any sort of sentence he may receive here. It's time to cut the shit, Jeff has a problem, you shouldn't need that much shit to get through your injuries (that friend I mention has a prescription for everything he has, and I have no evidence that what he is doing is hardcore abuse of his meds).

There's a difference between someone who takes an extra pill or two because the pain is really bad that day, and somebody who is abusing a powerful narcotic. Guess which category I think Jeff is in?

I think it's time to move on from Jeff Hardy if I'm WWE. I just don't see where he can be taken back unless he's completely exonerated here. Like Angle, you just can't have a liability like this on your roster, no matter how talented. It's a good news bad news for them here for sure.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-12 10:45:31


The funny thing is that the Jeff fanboys on sites like Twitter and Youtube still refuse to believe that their "hero" is capable of such things.. That's a damn shame (Though mildly amusing).

Also, this!

Jeff Hardy went down to Georgia.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-12 12:53:55


At 9/12/09 10:45 AM, pepeatumi wrote: Also, this!

Jeff Hardy went down to Georgia.

Wow. That is funny as hell!

It really is a shame though when you really think about it. Those heel promo's Punk is doing? He was 100% right about Jeff. I do hope Jeff gets some help, I don't want him to wind up another statistic.

I'm guessing that if Matt didn't bail him out it must have been Jeff's girlfriend... What the hell was he doing with that amount of stuff anyway? Were things that bad that he had to be in a haze 24/7?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-12 20:35:50


New information has come out regarding Jeff Hardy's Friday arrest for drug trafficking, specifically, what led police to search his home in the first place. According to North Carolina's FayObserver.com, Chief Deputy Neil Godfry of the Moore County Sheriff's Office says that the Fayetteville Police Department actually received a tip several days ago that Jeff Hardy was in possession of a large quantity of drugs. That tip led to an investigation and subsequently, a search warrant.

Now with all that said, i really don't think WWE or Vince will ever trust him again with the title or for that matter even let him back in the company for doing that. Which under contract would have been his third violation of the wellness policy. Making him leave the company anyways, so i thing i was a good idea to just let Jeff go out on his own and then fuck up.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-12 20:37:54


Argh! Damnit, Jeff, there had better be more to this!

In speaking of those needing their innocence proven, how's Angle's situation?

SD was good as always last night; the shellaligh shot to Knox's skull was disturbing. Matt Hardy's really been bringing his A-game out there since his return. Don't think I've actually seen the Anaconda Vice up until now..........even if Taker loses, I sincerely doubt he'll tap - he'll just go down the hard way & pass out.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-13 00:02:13


At 9/12/09 08:37 PM, Assi9 wrote: In speaking of those needing their innocence proven, how's Angle's situation?

The way it sounds, the stalking bit will most likely be tossed. But he's still going to have to provide a scrip for the HGH or whatever it was he had.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-13 00:43:20


WWE has announced that Kofi Kingston will defend his United States Title against The Miz tomorrow night at Breaking Point

That should be a good match, though it didn't get any buildup whatsoever.

Here are some wrestler comments on the Jeff situation:

Chris Jericho has posted the following on his Twitter account: "Don't think of judging Jeff Hardy until you've walked a mile in his shoes. I will always have Jeff's back."

Former WWE star Lance Storm has posted a new blog concerning the Jeff Hardy arrest over at StormWrestling.com. Storm says the following about the situation: "The first thing I want to say is that people need to remember that being charged with something and being guilty of something, can be two different things. I've gotten email from fans that were both crushed and appalled to read that Jeff Hardy was dealing drugs."

"Let me just say, I don't believe for a second Jeff Hardy was selling drugs and I'm pretty sure that any trafficking charges are based solely on the quantity of drugs found, not him actually selling them. I believe in the US there are limits on the amount of certain drugs you can have in your possession, and as soon as those limits are reached the charge is trafficking, because they feel you have more of the substance than would normally be considered for personal use."

"If that is the case that certainly does not put Jeff free and clear, but I think having your own personal drug problems (no matter how severe) and being a drug trafficker are two completely different things. If the quantities of drugs, reportedly found in Jeff's possession, are accurate then we have to assume he has a very serious drug problem, and that, even more so than his pending legal woes, is my biggest concern."

Storm has an interesting point and I do agree with him in that the legal stuff is second to his personal problems.

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE officials decided to scrap the planned John Morrison vs Dolph Ziggler match at Breaking Point because agents could not come up with a logical finish to the match. Several ideas were tossed out, but all rejected as officials felt the proposed finishes did not benefit either wrestler.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-13 02:17:44


At 9/13/09 12:43 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Storm has an interesting point and I do agree with him in that the legal stuff is second to his personal problems.

Absolutely. I also feel the trafficking bits will be tossed if Jeff turns up scrips or whatever. But what I do think will hopefully happen is at the least he is mandated to enter a drug treatment facility. I'll say it right now: I will be shocked, SHOCKED, if Jeff had that much crap in his house with intent to sell. I do not believe he had intent to sell. I believe that was his personal stash and he intended to use that himself. So possession yes, trafficking no.

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE officials decided to scrap the planned John Morrison vs Dolph Ziggler match at Breaking Point because agents could not come up with a logical finish to the match. Several ideas were tossed out, but all rejected as officials felt the proposed finishes did not benefit either wrestler.

Bravo then to WWE. If you can't find a finish to a match that would benefit either man, you just don't do the match. Especially since it's not like this was heavily promoted for the PPV (I think it got a total one mention?) and I doubt the buyrate would move one way or the other for it's inclusion or exclusion. WWE made the right call here, and the agents should be applauded for good judgment.

Amazing how positive stories keep coming out of the Smackdown! brand isn't it? Well, cept for Jeff Hardy but...fuck him, and technically he wasn't on the roster at the time. :)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-13 03:50:17


Damn it, Jeff.

I have a very bad feeling that he will end up joining the tragically-long "dead too soon" list if he and those around him don't take this very, very seriously. You'd think that the length of the list would be all the discouragement you'd need...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-13 09:35:44


At 9/13/09 07:43 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote:
Well that's all. Thoughts?

I agree with everything, although I'd be really happy if some of them end up being wrong.

I'm upset about the Miz and Kofi match being a last minute addition. The feud for them was set up when Miz came back on Raw, so there was no excuse not to build on it.

At this point, I shouldn't be upset in Cena wins. It's not like we were going to see a new face with the belt anytime soon. Within the next year, it will be the same four people just swapping the belt around.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-09-13 17:48:02


Argh, I must've refreshed the page when I was predicting Taker/Punk, and lost all the predictions I made... This is why you shouldn't have a drink then go on forums. But drinking is making these predictions more fun for me, especially in the Cena/Orton section.

So here I go, trying to remember what I wrote before.

At 9/13/09 07:43 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: 1. United States Champion Kofi Kingston vs The Miz

This match was thrown haphazardly onto the PPV, so logic dictates that Kofi should retain. There's been no build to the match, and no one cares.
Of course, The Miz is trying to fulfil his lifelong dream to become an unimportant undercard champion. I can't ruin the man's dreams, so Miz to win.

2. Kane vs The Great Khali w/ Runjin Singh (Singapore Cane Match)

ZZZzzz. Is Vince trying to sabotage Smackdown so it puts on a match people care less about than John Cena and Randy Orton? Whatever, Khali has been handing it to Kane weekly, and no one cares about either, so Kane to win. Then they can have another match the next few PPVs.

3. Unified Tag Team Champions Chris Jericho & Big Show vs MVP & Mark Henry

Here's something to consider: Raw needs Jericho. Whilst I didn't like Bob Barker's parts on Raw, many people said his exchange with Y2J was the best thing on the show. Parts of this match should be good (specifically the parts which don't involve Show or Henry).

So, Christina and Fat Shit, or what ever hilarious name Shaq called them, to win.

4. DX (Triple H & Shawn Michaels) vs Legacy (Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase) (Submissions Count Anywhere Match)

Fuck, I had an awesome prediction for this. I hope I remember it.

Ok, so logic states that the kids should go over the unfunny vets, right? My dream scenario goes like this: A bloodied up HBK tapping to the Million Dollar Dream, whilst he looks on at Cody Rhodes beating the living shit out of an unconscious Triple H.

Since this is DX, though, and they can do whatever the fuck they want, I see this happening:
HBK forcing either member of legacy to tap out. To the sharpshooter. In the middle of the ring. IN FUCKING MONTREAL.

If DX are the team that can break Kayfabe all they want, and make their little smart jokes, then I could easily see this happening. HBK is never EVER going to be welcomed as a face in Montreal anyway (get over it, Canada), so I see no reason why they can't have a joke at the expense of Canada and the Spirit Squad. Or whoever it is they're burying this time.

DX to win!

5. ECW Champion Christian vs William Regal w/ Ezekiel Jackson and Vladimir Kozlov

The sad thing is, more effort went into your prediction of this match than the effort that probably went into actually booking the previous match between these two. And probably this match too. I see Zeke and Vlad the Impaler beating on Christian for the DQ, and Regal taking the strap in the next meeting between these two.

6. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs John Cena (I Quit Match)

Ohhh man. There are numerous reasons to not predict this match, including the fact that these two have faced off so many times before, it was boring first time, I don't like Cena or Orton, and Cena ISN'T GOING TO LOSE.

So you want my prediction: PAIN. I'm seriously not going to predict this match.

7. World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk vs Undertaker (Submission Match)

This is by far the most interesting match of the night. As you say, CM Punk can't afford to lose, but this is Taker's first match back. Also, did anyone mention that Undertaker HAS NEVER TAPPED OUT TO LOSE A MATCH?

As much as a loss will hurt Punk, I see no way he's coming out with the strap. Punk knocking Taker unconscious? I just don't see it. I predict a Taker win.

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LEGACY WINS!

They made HBK tap to a combination of the figure-four on the ring post (Shades of Bret hart!) and the Million Dollar Dream.


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