At 9/5/09 04:50 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: I think he mentioned on his Twitter that the doctor cleared him in six weeks, but advised he doesn't start training again till eight, and wrestling till twelve. But Matt's always been a pretty tough guy so it hopefully wont do him any harm and he'll be back to his best in the near future.

Yeah, he probably came back too early in order to do something with Jeff before he left, but as long as his injury has healed, he will get more in shape as time goes on. I can see why he did it too. I think it would've been a hell of a lot harder to make Matt a face again if Jeff was already gone.

At 9/2/09 10:11 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Alright, let's talk music for a bit. I know you have only recently started watching so I can't really ask about past music, so...What is your favorite theme?

I know their old music too. In fact, I have a CD right on my desk. My favorite old one is Mysterio's old theme, and my favorite one from right now is Jeff Hardy's. ...<='(
And Hulk Hogans song is awesome, too.

Check my userpage. =)

At 9/5/09 12:18 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Man Punk was on fire tonight. He is doing a hell of a job getting people to hate him. Him dressing up like Jeff was icing on the cake.

*twitch* Okay, you mentioned it once. Now let us NEVER EVER speak of it again. I really did twitch a little out of anger when I saw that his hair was a bit too short and too black.

Is it me or does it look like Matt isn't at 100%? He seems a bit slower and heavier. I think he may have come back a bit too soon from his injury.

Well, he did make a good comeback. *plays part again* Heh heh heh...Snot-Nosed Punk deserved it.

At 9/5/09 12:18 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Man Punk was on fire tonight. He is doing a hell of a job getting people to hate him. Him dressing up like Jeff was icing on the cake.

Angry Jeff Hardy fans are angry.

Is it me or does it look like Matt isn't at 100%? He seems a bit slower and heavier. I think he may have come back a bit too soon from his injury.

Agreed. Though I guess that having a torn abdominal muscle makes it difficult to work out. Still, the match was pretty good up until the finish, so I'm hoping this means that Matt will be even better in the ring once he gets in shape.

As for Rey v Morrison. Honestly, if Taker v Shawn hadn't happened on the same year, we'd probably be looking at Mysterio/Morrison as the WWE MOTY.

At 9/5/09 10:58 AM, pepeatumi wrote: Agreed. Though I guess that having a torn abdominal muscle makes it difficult to work out. Still, the match was pretty good up until the finish, so I'm hoping this means that Matt will be even better in the ring once he gets in shape.

I'm not knocking the guy, Matt is one tough dude to come back from an injury like that so soon. I just think he needs some time to heal, but knowing Matt as we do he doesn't like to stay away from the ring too much.

As for Rey v Morrison. Honestly, if Taker v Shawn hadn't happened on the same year, we'd probably be looking at Mysterio/Morrison as the WWE MOTY.

That and Jeff vs. Punk in TLC. The SD brand has two matches that we all agree kick ass yet Raw has left us disinterested... WWE needs to step it up. I think if they let Kofi and one of the contenders we saw this week for the U.S. Title were given the amount of time Morrison and Rey got we would see something great too. I think Kofi and Miz could have an awesome match.

At 9/5/09 10:58 AM, pepeatumi wrote: Angry Jeff Hardy fans are angry.

Yeah, I know. Like I said before, I was in bliss until I saw that his hair was short...and black...and that he had a huge Pepsi logo on his left arm. -_-
Okay, anyway. This December I'm goin' to my first wrestling show, SmackDown!
*does stupid CM Punk smirk* D=> Oh God, without Jeff I'm starting to act like Punk...anyway...I'm going to SmackDown! and I'm hoping Jeff will be back before then. Or better yet, he'll come back when I'm there!
One more thing to say. Did anyone else get scarred for life by Triple H's old song(The King of Kings)? Because it is pretty...graphic.

I like King of Kings. It reminds me of the end of The Odyssey when all the suitors are hunted down and killed. I bet that was the inspiration.

Haha the angry Hardy fans made me laugh. It reminded me of this kid from a few years ago when Edge beat Cena on Raw for the WWE Championship.

At 9/5/09 12:37 PM, boloneyman wrote: I like King of Kings. It reminds me of the end of The Odyssey when all the suitors are hunted down and killed. I bet that was the inspiration.

Don't get me wrong, The King of Kings is an awesome song, I'm just saying it scares me a little. Once, I had a dream that I was the traitor. D'=> I woke up in a cold sweat.

Haha the angry Hardy fans made me laugh.

>=(

Anyone here who hasn't seen Rey Mysterio's face? For the ones who haven't...SPOILER ATTACK!

My god, he looks pretty young for a 34 year old.

Seen it once already. Like I said then, there's no way in hell one would recognize him without the mask - a good thing for papparazzi avoidance.

At 9/5/09 06:22 PM, Assi9 wrote: Seen it once already. Like I said then, there's no way in hell one would recognize him without the mask - a good thing for papparazzi avoidance.

Hmmm...you're right. I guess his cute little beard is fake. I will never look at Mysterio the same way again.

I loled at the angry Hardy fans. But it does prove what I said over and over and a lot of people didn't believe me:

Turn Punk and give him a chance and he'll be just as hated as Edge.

Straight Edge means I'm better then you indeed. May he reign for a long, long, time. That Hardy impression was fucking awesome.

At 9/5/09 11:33 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I loled at the angry Hardy fans. But it does prove what I said over and over and a lot of people didn't believe me:

Turn Punk and give him a chance and he'll be just as hated as Edge.

Straight Edge means I'm better then you indeed. May he reign for a long, long, time. That Hardy impression was fucking awesome.

Hell, he's OUTDONE Edge as a heel - something I didn't think was quite possible.

At 9/6/09 02:22 AM, Assi9 wrote: Hell, he's OUTDONE Edge as a heel - something I didn't think was quite possible.

Its something SD needed too. More than likely when Edge does come back he will probably be welcomed as a face. He has a ready made fued with Jericho for his return. I hope Punk is able to hold onto the belt long enough for him to have a fued with some of the other faces on SD.

Why does this guy have a profile page?

Personally I'd love to see a Edge vs Punk feud, now that their roles are switched around, it would be interesting how it plays out

also how funny were the peoples reaction when Punk came out as Hardy, there was one lady in particular who looked so disgusted and deeply offended lol

I have to ask this.. What in the hell is going to happen with Punk v Taker at Breaking Point?

They can't possibly have Punk drop the title so quickly (Which would just kill his momentum!), and there's no way I can't see Punk actually making Taker tap.

I'm thinking we might have either Taker or Punk pass out in the other's respective hold, which would end the match, but keep the title on Punk.

At 9/6/09 11:00 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I have to ask this.. What in the hell is going to happen with Punk v Taker at Breaking Point?

They can't possibly have Punk drop the title so quickly (Which would just kill his momentum!), and there's no way I can't see Punk actually making Taker tap.

I'm thinking we might have either Taker or Punk pass out in the other's respective hold, which would end the match, but keep the title on Punk.

I've been wondering this. Punk has just come off a hot feud with Hardy, and needs to keep momentum to truly establish himself, and Taker has just returned. Neither man can realistically afford to lose.

Maybe Matt will interfere, and give us a DQ finish. Do submission matches allow DQs?

At 9/6/09 11:00 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I'm thinking we might have either Taker or Punk pass out in the other's respective hold, which would end the match, but keep the title on Punk.

Wouldn't that ending result in a loss for the person who passed out. They raise the arm three times and if they aren't able to hold it up they lose. Counts as a submission and the title can change hands in that way.

I would say its more likely that either both men tap at the same time, goes to a hell in a cell match at the next PPV where Undertaker wins and goes on to feud with Kane for the title.
Punk goes on and feuds with Morrison over IC title, Rey gets thrown in the mix when he comes back. Punk cuts a promo on how he is addicted to prescription meds etc.

At 9/6/09 11:48 AM, Shaun wrote: Rey gets thrown in the mix when he comes back.

But...I saw him wrestling on SmackDown, so...what the heck is going on here?

Punk cuts a promo on how he is addicted to prescription meds etc.

Hehehehehe.
*ahem* I feel sorry for Punk, 'cause I had a bad father too. *slaps self*

At 9/6/09 12:40 PM, MaraquanWocky wrote:

But...I saw him wrestling on SmackDown, so...what the heck is going on here?

That was his last match before the suspension. He had to drop the title some how. So we won't see Rey again until October.

At 9/6/09 01:30 PM, boloneyman wrote: That was his last match before the suspension. He had to drop the title some how. So we won't see Rey again until October.

Well this sucks.

I had to post my Mysterio art YESTERDAY, didn't I?! Now nobody will know who he is!!

At 9/6/09 11:00 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I'm thinking we might have either Taker or Punk pass out in the other's respective hold, which would end the match, but keep the title on Punk.

That's what I'm thinking, Punk takes a shortcut somehow and Taker either passes out from blood loss, or pain, or he just knocks Taker out and slaps on the hold and the match is called based on that. Taking the title off of Punk right now would be absolutely insane.

At 9/6/09 11:48 AM, Shaun wrote: I would say its more likely that either both men tap at the same time, goes to a hell in a cell match at the next PPV where Undertaker wins and goes on to feud with Kane for the title.

Yeah...cause that's what the world is really crying out for. If this was RAW that's what they'd do. Thank God this isn't RAW so this won't happen.

Punk goes on and feuds with Morrison over IC title, Rey gets thrown in the mix when he comes back. Punk cuts a promo on how he is addicted to prescription meds etc.

I don't know why I'm even replying to this, booking like this would be the kind of thing that continues to hinder and ruin talent and the industry. At some point you have to let the young lions run with the ball and stop looking to the older guys that won't be around in a few years. The future is now. You want matches like the one you outlined above? Pop in a Taker DVD buddy, they're loaded with them.

At 9/7/09 01:03 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Yeah...cause that's what the world is really crying out for. If this was RAW that's what they'd do. Thank God this isn't RAW so this won't happen.

This is the WWE, at the end of the day there is one man with the final say on everything that happens.
I am biased because I don't like punk, like you are biased because you are a punk mark.

I really like both shows but the divas storyline on smackdown revolving around ziggler just makes me wonder how people can be so high about absolutely everything on smackdown and so low anything that happens on raw.

At 9/7/09 02:03 AM, Shaun wrote: This is the WWE, at the end of the day there is one man with the final say on everything that happens.

Uh huh, but it's been pretty well proven the only show he truly cares about is RAW. RAW is the show he demands massive and seemingly infinite rewrites for even up to just before show time. The other two he tends to leave alone. So that's where I feel confident in treating SD!, ECW, and RAW like almost seperate entities.

I am biased because I don't like punk, like you are biased because you are a punk mark.

It's not just me being a Punk mark, it's me being a mark for the business in general and wanting to see what I believe to be good wrestling and a strong and healthy business. Doing matches from 10 years ago with performers that are now 10 years older doesn't make for a healthy business. Casual fans want something new, not a retread of 10 years ago, and I think a lot of the hardcores do as well. Retreads aren't going to help anything and it just wastes time and degrades the careers of the young guys whose time is truly now. I'm over nostalgia, I'm still a mark for guys like Taker, but that doesn't mean I want him at the top of the card if it doesn't really serve any purpose.

I really like both shows but the divas storyline on smackdown revolving around ziggler just makes me wonder how people can be so high about absolutely everything on smackdown and so low anything that happens on raw.

I'm not high on absolutely everything on SD! I agree the divas storyline is pretty well crap, and I think that is absolutely a concession they make to Vince's style of storytelling. I at first thought this might be something where Maria and Ziggler would be like Savage and Liz back when Savage was a heel in the early 80's in how he basically would mistreat Liz and she would take it with class and the fans would root for her to finally get sick of it and leave him. But in this case you wouldn't even know Ziggler and Maria are dating except for the fact that Melina keeps bringing it up all the friggin time. It's a bad storyline without question, I also don't like Khali/Kane because it's too big stiffs I tend not to care about feuding. There's better uses for Kane then this.

But you know, I only have like 2 things to complain about on SD!, where I have a world champion that is entertaining and having great feuds with established veterans to help him approve and cement his status. I have good undercard feuds and matches for the IC title and just over personal issues. RAW is unfunny DX skits, boring Orton promos and matches. John Cena continuing to try and be the new Hulk Hogan and failing miserably. The US title not pushed, and a lot of matches that just seem to be out there to fill time...oh and the completely hit or miss guest host gimmick.

I grant it's about what one likes and what one doesn't, to me and many others Smackdown! is what we want in a wrestling show and RAW just absolutely isn't.

Armageddon to be replaced by Tables, Ladders and Chairs.

At 9/7/09 04:38 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Armageddon to be replaced by Tables, Ladders and Chairs.

Really...whats up with all of the shitty new ppv names. They just don't sound the same as the ones that they are replacing...

The problem here WWE is going to be risking is burning these gimmicks out over the long haul in terms of being effective.

At 9/7/09 07:49 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: The problem here WWE is going to be risking is burning these gimmicks out over the long haul in terms of being effective.

A million times this!

TLC Matches, and Hell in a Cell matches are supposed to be rare gimmick matches that are only reserved for BIG feuds. Now we're going to get a PPV where at least two matches will be HIAC, and another one were at least two matches will be held TLC... It makes the stipulations lose some of its luster.

On a totally different note, if anyone happens to come across a PPV from a company called Dragon Gate (The show's called Enter The Dragon), then I suggest you order it. It might be the best pro wrestling PPV this year.

At 9/7/09 07:49 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: The problem here WWE is going to be risking is burning these gimmicks out over the long haul in terms of being effective.

I know vince wants to give each ppv it's own thing, but i'm not sure about replacing so meny of them though. I'm just worried that they will take them to seriously and have the theme control more then it should and influence the feud's. I don't think this will go well in the long run, i hope this plays out for the better >->