At 4/22/08 12:35 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: As much as I love Regal, Punk SHOULD NOT have lost clean to a guy who, like many of you have said, only wrestles on the show part-time. And the GM of all people. If Regal perhaps had cheated to go over Punk, then that's another story. But jobbing a guy who's supposed to be a threat to the major titles clean to a General Manager just isn't sensible booking in my eyes.

Well...considering that the KOTR tournament only lasted for one day and none of the ME guys really get involved, it was more like a comedy show rather than a serious tournament. But still, does anyone believe that a guy who lost to the GM of RAW clean is a serious threat to Undertaker/Orton?

Regal beat CM Punk clearly because Punk had to fight Matt Hardy and Chris Jericho, while Regal fought an injured Finlay and a .5 known as Hornswaggle. CM Punk should have won that.

Also why do you guys like Regal so much? His theme song makes it sound like he's a caveman.

Agreed with everybody who said this hurt Punk. There's no reason for Regal to have won, he's a damn figurehead, I like the guy, but he's older, and he's never really mattered within the WWE structure except when he's been a figurehead character. Bad call, very bad call. Especially since it wasn't done through cheating as well.

Thing is, I do like where this story is headed for Regal. A GM who is still an active competitor, basically gettling drunk with power. He puts himself in high profile matches and books himself an easy road to the KOTR. The story has possibilities, and an extended Punk/Regal match would be awesome.

Regal could abuse his power so much thet he would be forced to vacate it, putting him back in the role of wrestler only.

At 4/22/08 10:51 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Regal could abuse his power so much thet he would be forced to vacate it, putting him back in the role of wrestler only.

Fine and dandy, but why the hell doesn't creative explain that to the viewer? That's the problem, they're making you infer what they're doing, and even that's pointless because their libel to just drop this story next week if they can't figure out where to go with it from here.

True, and I am just guessing so none of this could be what WWE is really doing.

ECW was pretty good last night, best match had to go to Benjamin and Kofi. Lets hope this becomes an actual fued instead of a one shot thing.

I was suprised that Yang got the victory, but glad too as it makes that fued less one sided.

Just caught ECW. Some fantastic matches, Punks first two were my favorite, along with MVP/Y2J.
Agree with those that said Punk should have beaten Regal, but i'll give creative the benefit of the doubt for now. Maybe there turning it into some sort of fued? Probably not... At least Punk beat two guys cleanly. The loss hurt him, but not to much i don't think. He'd been in two matches already, Regal has been in half a one.

One thing i did notice was the lack of RAW superstars in KotR. It was mostly SD guys. Aside from Jericho (Regal dosen't count) there was no one. Same with ECW, but i was expecting that. RAW's midcarders are really lacking at the minute. Hopefully Kennedy's return and an upcoming draft? should solve that. Oh, and Hardy's return maybe? Since he'll never be a top tier guy now.

At 4/23/08 10:49 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Just caught ECW.

RAW. I meant RAW >:(

ECW has Punk and that's it really. With SD! they should have at least grabbed someone other then Khali, why the hell couldn't Big show have been in the slot? Other then including Regal, they grabbed all very popular mid-level guys who either have been at better points on the card previously, or have the popularity to do so. They wanted it to be an event and boost ratings. Didn't happen, but I can see what they were trying for here.

Source: Gerweck.net

Jason Powell is reporting that Smackdown head writer Michael Hayes has been suspended by WWE for 60-days for using a derogatory term while speaking with Mark Henry. According to the source, Henry took offense and reported it to WWE officials.

Here's an update on the Michael Hayes situation.

Source: Gerweck.net

PWInsider.com is reporting that Michael Hayes - who heads up the Smackdown! creative team - has been suspended for a total of sixty days for making an "explicitly insulting comment" towards Smackdown! Superstar Mark Henry. The incident happened during the WrestleMania week and PWInsider says that the company tried not to make a bid deal out of it by not announcing Hayes' suspension and saying instead that he was on vacation. However word
travels fast in WWE land and eventually the real reason managed to find its way up to the surface.

At 4/23/08 01:24 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: ECW has Punk and that's it really. With SD! they should have at least grabbed someone other then Khali, why the hell couldn't Big show have been in the slot? Other then including Regal, they grabbed all very popular mid-level guys who either have been at better points on the card previously, or have the popularity to do so. They wanted it to be an event and boost ratings. Didn't happen, but I can see what they were trying for here.

There are rumors saying that the WWE is planning to ship CM Punk to another brand. Let's hope that he is drafted to SD!. We all know how RAW is treating with upstarting talents. (just look at Kennedy)

I just heard my neighbor say Regal won the KOTR, and I had to investigate - and see PantyWipe cream himself over it. :P The only part of RAW I (just) saw was the 4 vs. 4 Tag Match......minus what happened between JBL & Orton........fucking Bright House bullshit!!!!

At 4/22/08 08:30 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Who else died laughing when Obama stole the Rocks line? I know they all did, but his I found the funniest.

Me. :P That was awesome that the ACTUAL CANDIDATES did that first part. Lol, McCainiacs..........

That parody match was thankfully short, and I'm so glad Umaga crashed that party.

Of course, I still didn't think they'd ACTUALLY have a match. :P Better stunt-doubles than themselves against Umaga.

If Umaga ended up president, we'd probably end up having the Holocaust.

At 4/23/08 07:00 PM, LordKooler wrote: Source: Gerweck.net

Jason Powell is reporting that Smackdown head writer Michael Hayes has been suspended by WWE for 60-days for using a derogatory term while speaking with Mark Henry. According to the source, Henry took offense and reported it to WWE officials.

I'm suprised Hayes would do something so stupid. I'm equally suprised that Henry didn't punch him in the face. He strikes me as the type of guy who you wouldn't want to mess with in the first place.

Seems Ron Killings got hurt during a dark match, so his debut wil be delayed until he has recovered.

Gotta agree on Henry, I would not blame him one little bit if he hit Hayes, and then said to management "do what you gotta, but as a black man, I can't abide somebody dropping the n-bomb on me". I think it's probably time Hayes gets help for his issues. WWE confirmed the suspension and it sounds like they feel the same as me here.

Also sad to report RVD's wife Sonya has been diagnosed with colon cancer, surgery is scheduled, and Rob is confident they'll beat it. He posted a blog about it on his myspace, give Rob your good wishes and we all should remember to get ourselves tested and watch out for this stuff. I've lost an aunt and an uncle to cancer, it's a terrible, horrible thing to watch someone go through and I don't wish it on anybody.

At 4/23/08 07:54 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: There are rumors saying that the WWE is planning to ship CM Punk to another brand. Let's hope that he is drafted to SD!. We all know how RAW is treating with upstarting talents. (just look at Kennedy)

The rumor I've been hearing was he'd be headed to RAW, and after what they pulled Monday, that seems the perfect excuse to send him over there. My problem is we've seen this story way too often, and I think that perhaps the biggest reason Austin vs. Mcmahon worked was because it was so fresh and different.

My heart goes out to RVD and his family.
If you can find the real myspace page that would be great, all I found was an imposter page, while searching "Rob Van Dam" man I hate when people do that...

At 4/24/08 01:21 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: The rumor I've been hearing was he'd be headed to RAW, and after what they pulled Monday, that seems the perfect excuse to send him over there. My problem is we've seen this story way too often, and I think that perhaps the biggest reason Austin vs. Mcmahon worked was because it was so fresh and different.

At least Regal can have good technical matches with Punk. It would even be a good enhancing feud for Punk if Regal was in the same position as, say, Finlay.
But with Regal as a semi-retired wrestler, it probably wouldn't do that much for Punk's credibility.
Though saying that, they brought JBL out of retirement to have him win two PPV matches, and have no eventiual face win in either feud, so perhaps they wouldn't use Regal to enhance Punk.

At 4/24/08 10:57 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: At least Regal can have good technical matches with Punk. It would even be a good enhancing feud for Punk if Regal was in the same position as, say, Finlay.
But with Regal as a semi-retired wrestler, it probably wouldn't do that much for Punk's credibility.
Though saying that, they brought JBL out of retirement to have him win two PPV matches, and have no eventiual face win in either feud, so perhaps they wouldn't use Regal to enhance Punk.

With Punk at this point, I think all bets are off and I've given up hope that they'll go and push Punk. The guy to me seems like the new RVD up there in terms of a guy they don't see anything in, and even though the fans are solidly behind him, the company isn't.

Speaking of RVD, here's his real myspace for those that want to give him well wishes: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus eaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=112804 536

I've heard that Vince likes CM Punk, so all is not lost for the guy.

The notsoGreat Khali is going to be taking some time off to both spend time in his home of India, and very likely have double knee surgery. While I'm no fan of his work, I never wish injury on anyone. So I expect Big Show to get the win this Sunday to explain Khali's absence.

At 4/25/08 07:32 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I've heard that Vince likes CM Punk, so all is not lost for the guy.

The same thing can be said to Masters in 2005 and Jeff Hardy before WM 24. CM Punk has to make sure that he does not drop the ball himself. With HHH and HBK being the backstage kings, RAW is certainly the dangerous water for young and upcoming talent.

At 4/25/08 07:32 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I've heard that Vince likes CM Punk, so all is not lost for the guy.

Never heard that, I'd always heard the opposite. He would have been released from developmental if not for the ECW relaunch and Paul Heyman wanting him. If Vince really liked him, he'd get a real push towards the top I think.

I think Punk is like RVD. He's a guy the company doesn't really know what to do with, and he irks them because he got over doing the gimmick he did before WWE, and even though they've never made huge strides (outside of Heyman) to really push the guy, he's still over and people still react to him. I just get that feeling he's always gonna be an upper mid-carder, and probably never get that break out shot unless WWE tries to find a way to brand him as "their guy"

At 4/25/08 09:08 PM, Needle-In-Haystack wrote:
Big Show vs. Khali- I can see Big Show getting pinned by Khali. Khali's much better anyway, and Big Show's fat. God I hope I'm right.

You are right. That is why fans chant "you can't wrestle!" at Big Show.

Some Backlash thoughts:

Matt Hardy vs. MVP (US Championship)-

I think there's more juice in the chase yet. I think Hardy should get screwed here, and MVP retains with Hardy chasing him into Judgement Day, and then you flip the belt, rematch again at GAB, and then blow the program off for good at SS. That's my thought anyway.

Batista vs. Shawn Michaels-

I think Bastista probably wins here since logically he's probably Taker's next real program after Edge. I think Michaels is heading towards being in that role where he's there to have great matches with guys and make them look stronger on their way up, or help top guys remain as such. That might sound like WWE disrespecting Michaels, but I think that's the ultimate compliment to him, and it helps Shawn prove to everyone he's put his whiny jerk-o days behind him.

Kane vs. Chavo (ECW Championship)-

I've heard some good arguments for giving it back to Chavo. I've heard and could make some good arguments for keeping it on Kane. This really comes down to what WWE's intentions are here. Do they want to try and elevate Chavo up to the upper ranks? If they do, then I think you put the belt on Chavo here. The 8 second loss at Mania made him look foolish, and they should try to give him as convincing a win as possible here to help him. If the idea is for Kane to get something of a thank you run with that belt, or to have the brand somehow built around him, keep it on Kane. I think they might honestly be better trying to elevate Chavo, and build him as the veteran man that can be the focal point of the show, and have good matches and bring the young talents they're trying to push along. I think I'd try to take the gamble on Chavo personally.

Cody Rhodes Hardcore Holly vs. Carlito and Santino Morella(World Tag Team Championships)-

Holly and Rhodes have done nothing really since winning those belts. Carlito and Santino have personality, and if they want to rebuild the division, they need colorful champs, colorful is what Carlito and Santino are all about. Put the belts on 'em.

Big Show vs. Khali-

Khali sucks, Khali is taking time off. Let Show beat the goof and move on to something better, maybe even a program with Taker. This match should be bowling shoe ugly, and hopefully mercifully short for the people who will have to watch it.

Edge vs. Undertaker(World Heavyweight Championship)-

Don't see Taker losing it this fast, but WWE should keep Edge strong here and the feud going. I think Edge either wins by DQ, or maybe takes a powder when it looks like Taker was going to beat him. The point here will be making sure Edge isn't decisively beaten, and they somehow set up a situation where Undertaker will want at him again, and the people will want to pay and see it.

Cena vs. Orton vs. HHH vs. JBL-

I think Orton will, and should win here since the other options aren't too palatable. Plus, Orton should be given at least a semi clean win over the H because WWE I think really needs to decisively get behind the guy and see if they can prove people like me wrong and have Orton become a bankable main event heel. Christ they need to get SOMEBODY young over on that brand.

SD was ok tonight. First half I wasn't real into, though I did like that they used Punk to confront Edge. Also you can't go wrong with hyping the Matt/MVP fued.

Just my luck, nothing else good on while the diva match is taking place...

Best match of the night was Edge vs. Punk, I really felt like CM was so very close to getting the win. Punk has had one of those weeks it seems.. He gets cheated out of all the big wins.

Taker and Batista also had a very good match. HBK nailing Sweet Chin Music on batista is really going to set that fued on fire. Should be a good bout for them at Backlash.

At 4/26/08 01:49 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Best match of the night was Edge vs. Punk, I really felt like CM was so very close to getting the win. Punk has had one of those weeks it seems.. He gets cheated out of all the big wins.

They did the right thing in that one. They set it up so that it looked like Punk would have won if not for Edge just falling out of the ring unfortunately. Then Edge has one of his flunkies distract Punk so Edge can get the win. I also like how WWE is pushing the idea that Punk was cheated out of KOTR. I still would have liked something more screwy to have been done, like Regal clocking him with the old "power of the punch" or something. I guess if it leads to a feud where Punk gets the win over Regal and proves he is undisputedly the real King of the WWE the damage will be undone...so of course they won't do that, or they'll have Regal get 2 or 3 clean wins over him first. Schizophrenic booking is really screwing the guy over.

I don't get the way they built that Taker/Batista match on Smackdown. For the past month, ever since Wrestlemania, Batista has been complaining about how selfish HBK was in retiring Flair. No matter how stupid Batista was, considering how Flair asked for HBK's best at Mania, etc, Batista was still doing what he thought best in defending his 'best friend'.
This match at Backlash was meant to be heartfelt revenge from Batista, going against the person who literally ended the career of his mentor. So that would imply that Batista would do anything to get his hands on HBK, right? It would mean that Batista wouldn't let anything get in the way of avenging Flair, whether Flair would want it or not. Right?
So this week Batista has a WHC match with Taker. If he won this match, he wouldn't get his match with HBK, he could never get revenge. So what does he do? Does he request that he be allowed to pull a double-header at Backlash? Does he throw the match tonight to get to HBK like he intended?
No, happily stands there, gaily thanking Vickie for being so kind, and saying he would go all out to get that title. So he's basically saying that his match with Michaels is pointless. He doesn't really care if he ever fights Shawn. Not as long as he has some shiny gold around his waist. If that doesn't make him selfish, I don't know what does.
It just makes no sense that all the fire that Batista had for Michaels could just dissipate at the sight of the belt (though maybe that's a reflection of the real Baby Dave). And to top it all off, HBK even cost Batista the title, giving the match another element which takes away from the real reason behind it.
This match is no longer about Michaels retiring Flair, this is just another generic "you cost me the title" feud, with a flailing returnee refereeing the match for no other reason that getting super kicked by Michaels.

I think the whole thing with HBK costing Batista the belt is more along the lines of adding insult to injury. I'm sure the belt thing will be a big part of it now, but this match was and should still be about Batista not likeing Shawn for how he go to where he is, and Shawn not likeing Batista for...Um... Being Batista?

today I made a speech about us and japanise wrestling I used jushin lyger, great sasuke, Kurt Angle and Makind I used youtube vids and a powerpoint about highlightes of their wrestling careers and I got an A.

My neighbor taped TNA, so I'll watch it later. I'm currently typing this from a friend's house, btw.

That CM Punk / Edge match was much better than anticipated; it really made Punk look like he can kick some serious ass for a change - which is what he needs, obviously.

I did catch the RAW Rebound thingy, and seeing Regal actually use an actual finisher (well, submission) move was a nice change of pace from the Regal we've seen for the last year or so; it proves he's still got it. The Presidents vs Umaga thing looked hilarious - esp. the fake Bill Clinton ditching the fake Hillary like that. :P

At 4/24/08 01:19 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also sad to report RVD's wife Sonya has been diagnosed with colon cancer, surgery is scheduled, and Rob is confident they'll beat it. He posted a blog about it on his myspace, give Rob your good wishes and we all should remember to get ourselves tested and watch out for this stuff. I've lost an aunt and an uncle to cancer, it's a terrible, horrible thing to watch someone go through and I don't wish it on anybody.

My best wishes to the both of them.

At 4/25/08 07:32 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: The notsoGreat Khali is going to be taking some time off to both spend time in his home of India, and very likely have double knee surgery. While I'm no fan of his work, I never wish injury on anyone. So I expect Big Show to get the win this Sunday to explain Khali's absence.

Good; (1) we get a break from Khali - the character, not the actual person, mind you - and (2) Big Show needs the push that is beating the world's largest jobber.

At 4/26/08 11:45 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: I don't get the way they built that Taker/Batista match on Smackdown. For the past month, ever since Wrestlemania, Batista has been complaining about how selfish HBK was in retiring Flair. No matter how stupid Batista was, considering how Flair asked for HBK's best at Mania, etc, Batista was still doing what he thought best in defending his 'best friend'.
This match at Backlash was meant to be heartfelt revenge from Batista, going against the person who literally ended the career of his mentor. So that would imply that Batista would do anything to get his hands on HBK, right? It would mean that Batista wouldn't let anything get in the way of avenging Flair, whether Flair would want it or not. Right?
So this week Batista has a WHC match with Taker. If he won this match, he wouldn't get his match with HBK, he could never get revenge. So what does he do? Does he request that he be allowed to pull a double-header at Backlash? Does he throw the match tonight to get to HBK like he intended?
No, happily stands there, gaily thanking Vickie for being so kind, and saying he would go all out to get that title. So he's basically saying that his match with Michaels is pointless. He doesn't really care if he ever fights Shawn. Not as long as he has some shiny gold around his waist. If that doesn't make him selfish, I don't know what does.
It just makes no sense that all the fire that Batista had for Michaels could just dissipate at the sight of the belt (though maybe that's a reflection of the real Baby Dave). And to top it all off, HBK even cost Batista the title, giving the match another element which takes away from the real reason behind it.
This match is no longer about Michaels retiring Flair, this is just another generic "you cost me the title" feud, with a flailing returnee refereeing the match for no other reason that getting super kicked by Michaels.

Actually, one can simply assume he was going for a double-header, which was probably what Creative was thinking.

At 4/26/08 03:23 PM, NWOphenom wrote: today I made a speech about us and japanise wrestling I used jushin lyger, great sasuke, Kurt Angle and Makind I used youtube vids and a powerpoint about highlightes of their wrestling careers and I got an A.

Uh, good for you?