At 2/20/08 02:30 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
Maybe Michaels to retire Flair? Something along the lines of "Before/After your in the hall of Flair, how about you give me both the honour and privledge of going one on one with you at the biggest sporting event of the year!".

That is also a logical idea.

It shouldn't be HBK. He quite simply doesn't need that since he is already established and credible. The momentum of someone being the man who retired Flair should go to someone who WWE wants to elevate or give a push to.

Punk is a good idea, but in the way you set it up it makes him a heel. At this point Punk should stay face. They could do a match like that, Punk having respect for Flair and Flair saying how this could be Punks chance to "be the man."

I hope Carlito gets a spot for Mania this year, specifically the MITB match. Either that or he and Santino go for the Tag Titles.

At 2/20/08 03:03 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: It shouldn't be HBK.

I agree, but he's still who i think it will be at the minute.
Like you said, they should use this oppertunity to elevate someone who they want to elevate.
However, knowing WWE i really think there going to give the honour to someone who really dosen't need it. Aka, HBK.

At 2/20/08 03:13 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Like you said, they should use this oppertunity to elevate someone who they want to elevate.
However, knowing WWE i really think there going to give the honour to someone who really dosen't need it. Aka, HBK.

Yeah, but you gotta admit HBK needs more gold. Look at Edge, for example. He's ben around way less time than HBK and he has the same number of world titles. If I was HBK I'd ask the booking team to set me up with a world title.

At 2/20/08 10:25 AM, pepeatumi wrote: CM Punk is the most over guy in ECW. He's in need of some high-profile wins, so why not have him retire Flair? I was actually expecting him to turn on Flair last night. Punk can talk about how he respects Flair for his accomplishments, but he doesn't respect Flair's lifestyle (The drinking and partying).

But isn't he supposed to be a good guy? If a good guy takes Flair out, someone that A LOT of people like, then they wouldn't really go for him. They'd boo him and I don't think that's the type of exposure that he's looking for.
I'd really like to see Kofi go somewhere and maybe have Dreamer and Delaney be the champs on ECW. Seriously, ECW is really boring. CM Punk is good, but I don't like his 'straight-edge' lifestyle gig. If he's on ECW, they should be using chairs at least twice a night. Make it actually Extreme like it was before.
Kelly Kelly is hot too. But she has an over bite. I think it's kinda funny =]

At 2/20/08 08:18 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: How many participants are going to be in that match this year anyway?

It will be 8.

I would probably stick Shelton in MITB this year to help him be one of the big bump machines of the match. I stick Punk in there and have him just barely lose. I stick Hardy in there because I have him win it (then I have Orton win the three way, and Jeff cash in immediately after to take the title win he should have had anyway). I stick Umaga in there because he needs something to do and to stay credible, plus, he can play the monster of the match, which would probably make me liable to say actually keep Kane out so Umaga can have all the "animalistic" spots. I put Elijah Burke in there too because again, the boy is money I think and this would go a little way towards showing that in the eyes of the company. I drop in Palumbo because he is really establishing himself on SD! and I think I would probably actually have him either keep Noble out of this match, or I throw Noble in there so that Palumbo can not win, but only because he was so busy trying to kill Noble throughout the bout. Yeah, I think I put Noble in too so I can play that angle. Kennedy goes in as a red herring, I'm sure a lot of people would believe he could wind up getting it, and the field so far I don't think inspires anybody to think anybody who isn't Jeff Hardy is gonna win. So I agree with throwing Kennedy in that. For the last spot? Hmmm, it's a tough call, you could try sticking Stevie Richards in there, furthering the "comeback kid" angle. I DON'T think you use Tommy though, I think at this point Tommy needs to be fighting for the tag belts with Delaney and winning. I guess Jericho, since it looks like Finlay may be moving onto JBL at Mania, or his ultimate target will be Vince. If Jericho isn't busy, use him.

Although, I've heard it's Batista or Michaels under consideration to fight Flair, so probably the odd man out on that equation can get money in the bank shot. BDV sucks cock, no way do I put him in that match, ditto Khali, it'd just be a waste of a spot.

At 2/20/08 03:03 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: It shouldn't be HBK. He quite simply doesn't need that since he is already established and credible. The momentum of someone being the man who retired Flair should go to someone who WWE wants to elevate or give a push to.

That is why I said that it would be better if we got Kennedy vs Flair at WM. Mr. Kennedy lost his push after he failed the drug test and has not been the same since. Retiring Flair at WM would do wonder to re-establish him as a top contender he was supposed to be. Well...it is too late to say that now. Once again the company showed why it sucked.

Punk is a good idea, but in the way you set it up it makes him a heel. At this point Punk should stay face. They could do a match like that, Punk having respect for Flair and Flair saying how this could be Punks chance to "be the man."

I would like to see Punk complete in the MITB ladder match and have a decent showing.

I hope Carlito gets a spot for Mania this year, specifically the MITB match. Either that or he and Santino go for the Tag Titles.

The latter will probably happen since Holly & Cody are not doing anything with the title anyway.

As much as I dont like CM Punk, that storyline that was proposed of him feuding with Flair over his party boy lifestyle was REALLY fucking good. I wish WWF creative wasnt so stupid.

At 2/19/08 08:50 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: If you are suffering a massive head wound then yeah it will be. Then again if you were in that state a bowl of pudding would be just as exciting. Getting a boxer to fight Show is not exactly the best way to bring the guy back, but at least he's back. Lets just hope this doesn't become a repeat of the last time we had a boxing match at Mania. Bart Gunn gettig knocked out in a few seconds attempting to fight Butterbean.

Heh, that's quite a memorable yet worst fight I'd ever seen in my entire life. But yeah, I am a boxing/wrestling lover, so I know their skills in their respective sports. Mayweather is a pound for pound champion, known for his defensive moves and powerful punches while the Big Show, 493-pound giant, known for his vicious attacks and moves, he's dominant wrestler. Well, I can't wait for that to watch.

Raw was "eh" for me last night. The cage segment was a good setup, really showing what an ass BL can be.

8 in the match, then we could get at least two from each brand in there. That at least has some possiblilty for some of our picks to make it in.

Thing about Punk is the fact that he is still tied up with Chavo at this point. That can change of course, but as it stands if he is going to face Chavo again, he won't be in the MITB, or wrestle Flair.

At 2/21/08 08:25 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Thing about Punk is the fact that he is still tied up with Chavo at this point. That can change of course, but as it stands if he is going to face Chavo again, he won't be in the MITB, or wrestle Flair.

Does anybody care about that feud at this point? No offense to either man, but this has been done as a best of Infinity series and it's so illogical and gone nowhere, if they just drop it and give the impression Punk could move on to something better, does anyone care?

At 2/21/08 06:53 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Does anybody care about that feud at this point? No offense to either man, but this has been done as a best of Infinity series and it's so illogical and gone nowhere, if they just drop it and give the impression Punk could move on to something better, does anyone care?

Chavo beat Punk cleanly at NWO. It is time to put a period on the feud. How about a Chavo vs Kane match up at WM. Kane deserves another title run --- although the ECW title is not nearly as precious as the WH title and the WWE title.

At 2/21/08 08:17 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Chavo beat Punk cleanly at NWO. It is time to put a period on the feud. How about a Chavo vs Kane match up at WM. Kane deserves another title run --- although the ECW title is not nearly as precious as the WH title and the WWE title.

Agreed about Punk, which just didn't make sense to me, I mean, if WWE is hoping to move Punk off ECW then fine, but why the hell do you not protect him and have Chavo cheat to win, or get himself Dq'ed or counted out? Like Dave Scherer said, maybe Punk will be a top guy, maybe he won't, but it'd be nice if WWE would protect him and at least give him a chance to try and break out.

At 2/21/08 11:35 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Agreed about Punk, which just didn't make sense to me, I mean, if WWE is hoping to move Punk off ECW then fine, but why the hell do you not protect him and have Chavo cheat to win, or get himself Dq'ed or counted out? Like Dave Scherer said, maybe Punk will be a top guy, maybe he won't, but it'd be nice if WWE would protect him and at least give him a chance to try and break out.

Didn't Orton pin Jeff Hardy clean at RR? As long as Punk has a decent showing in the MITB match, getting pinned by Chavo clean will not cause too much damage.

At 2/22/08 12:13 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Didn't Orton pin Jeff Hardy clean at RR? As long as Punk has a decent showing in the MITB match, getting pinned by Chavo clean will not cause too much damage.

If it was one instance, sure, your right. But Punk has picked up many wins throughout his ECW run on top by countout, or DQ, or luck seemingly. He has not been booked strongly in any way really. Also, there was the getting beat by Edge clean. Yes they keep Punk in the mix, and that's a good thing, but if he's kept in the mix and publicly losing more then he's winning in big match situations, eventually fans will give up on him ever really mattering or belonging at the top. WWE dosen't seem to understand this about Punk, or many guys on the roster.

I think it'd be pretty neat to see a hardcore match between the ECW originals and the New breed at WM. Like they had last year, only with tables and shit. too bad all the originals from last year are gone.
I'm really getting sick of CM Punk. I want him to do something else. Feud with... maybe that stevie guy or something. I wanna see Kofi fight a guy I actually know, too. It's boring to watch him win against people who have a name like me. You guys don't even know my name =]
I haven't watched SD in a while. Anyone who watches it, wanna fill me in on the stories so far?

If they put Punk in the MITB match, who should Chavo fued with? Should he and Punk keep going, or should they have Chavo go up against someone new? Thing about ECW right now is that there are more heels than faces. What faces there are aren't very cloes to being a top performer when you compare them to guys like Punk and Chavo. On the heel side you have very strong characters such as Miz, Morrison, Burke, Benjamin and BDV. On the face side not including Punk? Balls, Stevie, Kofi, Nunzio, Dreamer, and Boogey Man. We haven't seen Balls or Boogey in a long time too. So that really limits who Chavo could go against if they wanted a face vs heel type match.

Yeah I did forget about the ECW/SD merger. I guess Kane is as good as any. If WWE is seriosu in their push of Chavo, he should somehow come out on top.

Smackdown seems like a good show, according to Rajah. I dunno tho, the WWF has burned me so much Im a bit skeptical already.

At 2/22/08 04:23 PM, PantyWipe wrote: Smackdown seems like a good show, according to Rajah. I dunno tho, the WWF has burned me so much Im a bit skeptical already.

SD! has longer matches, and more logical stories. It's the best wrestling show you can find on TV. It sometimes has it's silly and stupid moments like any WWE show, but nowhere near the level of say RAW or Impact.

At 2/22/08 07:29 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: If they put Punk in the MITB match, who should Chavo fued with?

Kane, since he has nothing to do on SD! anyway. I would not mind seeing Kane getting one last title run although it is just the ECW title.

Sorry for double posting, but I expected more from the Edge/Taker segment. At least Taker should give Edge a chokeslam.

At 2/22/08 09:32 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Sorry for double posting, but I expected more from the Edge/Taker segment. At least Taker should give Edge a chokeslam.

Nah, tease, tease, tease that shit. Make people pay to watch Taker get any kind of real beat down on Edge. That's just smart booking to me for an event as big as Mania.

Smackdown was good tonight. I don't see why they had Palumbo face a jobber, but I guess Wang, Moore, Deuce and Domino were all tied up elsewhere.

At 2/22/08 09:00 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 2/22/08 04:23 PM, PantyWipe wrote: Smackdown seems like a good show, according to Rajah. I dunno tho, the WWF has burned me so much Im a bit skeptical already.

SD! has longer matches, and more logical stories. It's the best wrestling show you can find on TV. It sometimes has it's silly and stupid moments like any WWE show, but nowhere near the level of say RAW or Impact.

Ive always been partial to Raw, personally. To me the matches are shorter but better, Van Dam had some sick matches on Raw, and before the tag division meant zero, it was one of my favorite things to look foward to every week.

Wait, NOW I remember why I hate smackdown so fucking much and never watch it. Its because Eddie Guerrero died in 2005 and here they are still milking every nickle out of him in 2008. Hes almost beaten Undertaker in the "deadman who makes us money" category.

Wow, Chavo lost to Rey who only has one army due to injuries cleanly, that is just brutal burial.
Once again it shows that Vince does not give a damn about the ECW.

So, in our country, RAW was showed every Saturdays here. So I watched it today and nice kickoff this week and RAW was good today.

So Benjamin is in the MITB match. I guess it's becoming a tradition since he does something awesome in each one.

Chavo losing to a one armed Rey was a bit sad in my opinion.

Edge vs. Taker is going to be great, I can tell. It will be interesting to see what WWE does for Mania, though I am partial to keeping Undertakers streak going.

At 2/23/08 11:23 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Edge vs. Taker is going to be great, I can tell. It will be interesting to see what WWE does for Mania, though I am partial to keeping Undertakers streak going.

If there's anyone that doesn't need to break Taker's streak, it's Edge. He's already the biggest bastard, most hated heel there is. There's not much further he could go.