At 2/16/08 10:04 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: NO. DO NOT WANT. The last thing Punk or Chavo needs is Punk vs Chavo chapter 11.

Do not want.

Agreed, Punk wins with GTS and we just end the damn storyline and try to give Punk some credible victories, or hell, just treat the ECW belt as the mid-card belt it is and give him the MITB win at Mania. No more Punk vs. Chavo, move on already.

At 2/16/08 11:26 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Now that I really think on it, Cena has a very good chance of winning at NWO. There have been talks of having a HHH vs. Cena II match at WM. Also HHH has been wanting to turn heel so this would be his chance.
You guys really need to see this, holy crap: http://epicpiledriver.ytmnd.com/

The cruel truth is that HHH failed as a heel to make him hating him and cheering for Cena during "Cena vs HHH I". So far, Edge is the only one I can remember who drew huge amount of heel heat when fading with Cena.

At 2/14/08 10:28 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I'm pretty sure JBL still uses that clothesline as a finisher..

For you newer guys: We were warned a while ago that we should not post old WWF/E, WCW, ECW, or anything else owned by WWE. Anytime they find footage online they tend to get it removed. So to keep NG out of trouble we should refrain from doing so. This was a warning given by Avie who has the best intensions for NG and this topic so it;s not just me saying this. Indy clips you find is ok as far as I can tell since most of them want the exposure and put their stuff on youtube anyway.

Like I said, this warning was given a while ago so you you newer people it's an understandable thing to do.

Crap. I didnt even notice that we werent supposed to post WWF videos. I apologize for the error, you think after 7 years on ng my dumb ass would know when and when not to do something.

Well, thatll be my last linky to a WWF youtube, and I apologize for breakin the rules of this club.

At 2/11/08 07:03 PM, pepeatumi wrote:

At 2/11/08 01:22 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote:

As for Curryman, there's always been this STUPID RUMOR that its actually Daniels under a mask. They're two different people. Daniels is bald, Curryman has hair. Daniels can't dance, Curry man is a great dancer. They're just NOT the same.

Besides, Curryman is hot, spicy, AND he tastes great. No one else can say that.

It is Daniels under a mask. He is likely wearing a wig to be recognisable to his indy fans.
In the indies and Japanese indies, he wrestled as Curry Man.

Also, Kofi Kingston looks like a new Booker T to me.
The way he moves around, the way he delivers his moves, the moves he does.
It just reminds me of Booker.

Whatever happens at NWO, I just want Orton/Hardy at Wrestlemania. Something hardcore and crazy with a heart-dropping spot or two. Is that so much to ask, WWE? :-(

And if Jeff DOES lose at NWO...they should have him feud with Trips for a while. Those two could have a series of really awesome matches (also allowing Trips the chance to go heel if he really wants to), culminating with the ultimate winner going after Orton or (ugh) Cena at Wrestlemania.

And I'd like for Edge to be more heel-y by having someone hinting (correctly) that he's only been leading Vickie on to consolidate his power, possibly with some sort of confrontation or climax at the wedding episode. I'm just...*crying* I'm so sick of seeing those two making out. :'(

At 2/17/08 07:44 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote:

:: And of course, as per usual, any thoughts on my predictions?

Spot on with the Hardy comments. If creative has ANY sense left, they will give Hardy the contender spot.

Sad but true with Finlay, too. Id love to see that guy get a chance at the title.

Sorry for the double post, but I didnt know wether or not you guys heard about this yet:

source: Wrestling Observer

-- Regarding Rey Mysterio's apparent biceps injury, it is being said that the muscle rolled up the arm, which would be a full tear. Mysterio is looking to avoid surgery at all costs because he doesn't want to miss WrestleMania. No word yet on what will happen with his title match with Edge at No Way Out tomorrow night.

I really don't know how to call this PPV. There's multiple ways most things could go, and the options range from the brilliant to the disappointing.

1. Mr. Kennedy vs. Ric Flair (Career Threatening Match)

Obviously I'd say Flair should win this, but they could retire Flair here and give him one last match at Wrestlemania, as his swansong.
Though I'd say Kennedy isn't ready to retire Flair, so flair here.

2. ECW Champion Chavo Guerrero vs. CM Punk

I don't really care. This is probably the least important match on the card, and one of the only ones that has no real bearing on Mania. This is just here to represent ECW on the card. And so people can have a toilet break.
Chavo to win, and Punk to go into the MITB at Mania.

3. World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Rey Mysterio

Edge. The result is obvious, but every thing else is interesting. Rey may not even be in the match if his injury is too bad. If Rey isn't there, I'm predicting Cena to come in here after he loses to Orton. Jk.

4. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs. John Cena

I really don't know. Cena's probably less boring in the ring and on the mic, and it would allow HHH/Cena II at WM, like it was meant to be last year (I believe). I mean, what other reason would they have for him to pull in his shot at NWO?

5. Batista vs. Undertaker vs. Big Daddy V vs. Finlay vs. The Great Khali vs. MVP (Elimination Chamber Match for No 1. Contendership to the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania)

Undertaker/Edge at WM makes most sense. But heh, maybe Batista will get one final "very last chance" match at the title.

6. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Chris Jericho vs. Umaga vs. JBL (Elimination Chamber Match for No. 1 Contendership to the WWE Championship at WrestleMania)

HHH to win, Hardy to win MITB at Mania. There's only two heels here, so maybe HHH will turn heel to balance things out and setup his match with Cena.
And obv. Y2J and JBL can't win, because they'll be having a match at WM.

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I think at the SmackDown! Elimination Chamber match, Matt Hardy will cost MVP the win, setting up for Hardy/MVP US Title match at Mania. If Matt costs him a big title, then he wont wuss out, he'll WANT to destroy Matt. So it makes sense to me.

At 2/16/08 11:26 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: You guys really need to see this, holy crap: http://epicpiledriver.ytmnd.com/

Damn! That would be a Yoshi Tonic or in other words... The Flipping Piledriver/Powerbomb that Trevor Murdoch has used a couple of times. Of course, the whole counter made the move look even better. And hooray at a Castagnoli and Gran Akuma sighting in this place!

Time for my No Way Out picks!

1. Ric Flair vs Mr.Kennedy (CAREER THREATENING MATCH!!!!)

Raise your hand if you see Flair losing this match... Anyone? Anyone? Good. I don't expect Flair to win cleanly, so I'm going to say that Kennedy decides to beat down Flair and ends up getting DQ'ed.

2. Chavo Guerrero vs CM Punk

Punk wins via DQ, and we probably get an Extreme Rules match at WM. Personally, I'd rather see Punk lose and go on to participate in and win the MITB at Wrestlemania which would lead to a full-time move to SD.

3. World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Rey Mysterio

Even before the biceps injury I was giving Rey no chance (In hell, maybe?) to win the match. I still expect Rey to compete in the match, but there's no way he's winning. Edge gets the clean win as we head towards the inevitable showdown between Edge and The Deadman.

4. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs. John Cena

For old times sake.... SPOILERS!!! Cena wins. Seriously, Cena beats Orton, HHH win the EC, Orton says he has a rematch-clause and our WM main event (on the Raw side anyways) will be RANDY ORTON VS JOHN CENA VS HHH!! Write it down!

5. SD Elimination Chamber: I'm picking the Deadman.. Just because.

6. RAW Elimination Chamber: HHH's been out of the title scene for waaaay too long (In his mind at least) and its time for Huntor the Barbarian to go back to the top. He'll win the EC with he and Jeff Hardy being the final two men in the Chamber.

At 2/17/08 08:49 AM, PantyWipe wrote: source: Wrestling Observer

-- Regarding Rey Mysterio's apparent biceps injury, it is being said that the muscle rolled up the arm, which would be a full tear. Mysterio is looking to avoid surgery at all costs because he doesn't want to miss WrestleMania. No word yet on what will happen with his title match with Edge at No Way Out tomorrow night.

Wow poor Rey. I sure hope he can get to Mania, but I have a feling that once that PPV is over he will have to leave for surgery, if not sooner. Poor guy, he hadn't been back too long from his knee problem, so it really is a shame that he is hurt again.

At 2/17/08 09:31 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Wow poor Rey. I sure hope he can get to Mania, but I have a feling that once that PPV is over he will have to leave for surgery, if not sooner. Poor guy, he hadn't been back too long from his knee problem, so it really is a shame that he is hurt again.

I can't believe he is injured overseas. When NWO is around, now he is injured. How sad for Rey.

At 2/17/08 07:13 AM, MCU wrote: Also, Kofi Kingston looks like a new Booker T to me.
The way he moves around, the way he delivers his moves, the moves he does.
It just reminds me of Booker.

Nah, I don't think so. You don't always have to compare them to someone.

Not always

My No Way Out Picks:

1.Mr Kennedy vs. Ric Flair
Flair wins. He's gonna pull something off, a dirty trick maybe, and win.

2.Chavo vs. CM Punk
Punk wins. With Vickie in the "hospital" and Edge busy with the WHC match, Chavo's gonna lose

3.Smackdown Elimination Chamber
Batista wins. Come on. He was next-to-last to be eliminated from the Royal Rumble...if you notice, thr runner-up and sometimes the next-to-last to be eliminated go to WM to fight for a title...it was so in 2005, 2006 and 2007.

4.Raw Elimination Chamber
HHH wins. He was runner-up in the Rumble. According to what I said above, he wins. But this if Orton wins his match. If Cena wins, then I'd have to put my money on HBK.

5. Rey Mysterio vs.Edge
Mysterio wins. With no Vickie, Rey should beat Edge, if Zack Ryder and Kurt Hawkins don't interfere.

6. Randy Orton vs. Cena
Orton wins. But in this one I'm not sure. It depends on the EC results

At 2/17/08 11:06 AM, D-Generate wrote: Mysterio wins.

Joke?

At 2/17/08 11:25 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:

At 2/17/08 11:06 AM, D-Generate wrote: Mysterio wins.

Joke?

Not at all. But I'm not sure about this one though.

At 2/17/08 01:29 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote:

At 2/17/08 11:06 AM, D-Generate wrote: My No Way Out Picks:

Bar one, possibly two, your logic is terribly flawed.

Yeah, to be honest the only matches that I'm sure of are the ECs...

Man I really like everyone's predictions. I am pulling for Hardy in the chamber, but if he doesn't win then MITB has his name all over it. Or maybe beating Flair at WM, but that isn't as likely, but possible. I'm actually excited for a PPV.

At 2/17/08 08:42 AM, PantyWipe wrote: Spot on with the Hardy comments. If creative has ANY sense left, they will give Hardy the contender spot.

Sense? I doubt that the creative team ever made sense in recent years.

If Jeff Hardy is going to win the WWE title at WM, Cena has to lose tonight. Does any of you believe that Captain Invincible will lose his title at Mania within 50 days away from recapturing it from Orton? Hell no! A clean Cena win will eliminate ANY chance that the WWE title will change hands at WM. Given that it has been 10000000000000 years since two (not one, BUT TWO) heels going into WM as the two major title champions. As much as I hate to see Captain Invincible getting the title RIGHT BACK, that is probably what we will get. Cross your fingers for Orton to pull the biggest upset of the WWE history if you do not want the ME of WM die one plus months before it even starts.

I have some important Japanese wrestling news to report.

Source: Gerweck.net

Dave Meltzer reports that former two time IWGP Champion Yuji Nagata was rushed to the hospital yesterday after complaining of pains in his head and no control over the left side of his body. Nagata, 39 is feared to have suffered a stroke.

Back again. :P I didn't finish last Thursday's TNA, but I caught SD at home. It ended up ending with a vomitfest, though.... >_< MAKE IT STOP!!!!! Yes, Rey, it IS sick, but we're doomed to deal with that shit for a while, I guess.

At 2/8/08 11:29 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:

At 2/8/08 10:19 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Think the Edgeheads will be the one's to get the tag titles back to SD? They beat the other top team in Wang/Moore twice now.

Apparently, Vince is trying to make everyone who allied with Edge champion in a pathetic attempt to rebuild the Revolution.

Yup.

Btw, you double-posted that, so a puppy died.
At 2/11/08 07:27 AM, Outlaw88 wrote (in regards to Red):

You should apply for a job as a WWE writer. You come up with better stuff then they do.

I completely agree with that. It's a shame that Vince probably wouldn't go for any of it, though, since he's become an idiot.

At 2/11/08 12:19 PM, sixonenine wrote: Ok so I saw TNA and I saw a wrestler by the name of "Sharkboy"?? WTF kind of personality is that?! Why does his so called personality mimic that of stone cold's?? It pisses me off because he's making a mockery of Steve Austin. Even his fuckin' music is the same!!!!

WTF!??

Sharkboy used to be just a guy in a shark getup than never spoke a single word; he kept getting his ass kicked constantly until he was badly incapacitated. Then, after a retardedly done comedy bit with him & his family watching over him, he, out of nowhere, wakes up & starts acting like Austin. From there, he's basically copied his entire gimmick, except it's "Sharkboy 24:7" "bit your ass", "That's the fishing line, because Sharkboy said so!", and bottles of clam juice in place of beer. Although he now also uses the Stunner (minus the "Stone Cold" part), he still does his Sharkfin Slam thing & his trademark sharkfin salute.

I've long been wondering about the legalities of that; I even wonder if Austin realizes that this is going on.....

At 2/11/08 01:22 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: lol, you damned casuals. Tiger Mask is a legend in Japan (there have been four over the years I believe) and curry man is actually someone you've seen before. The curry-man gimmick is just a succesful alternate personality played out in Japan. Its pretty entertaining if you ask me.

Thank you; no one disrespects Curry Man, damnit! Btw, if he's someone recognizable, then who is he, exactly? Wait, that might ruin it for me.....

And for the record, Japanese wrestling name schemes seem to be like those of anime characters - they tend to sound a little weird if you're not from there. :P And considering Tiger Mask & Curry Man are supposed to be BASED off of anime characters to begin with, it's no exception there.

Which reminds me, TNA has announced the return of the World X Cup. How awesome is this? I remember this event actually being one of the first things that brought me into watching TNA back when it was on FoxSportsNet. Those match ups were all really cool to see. I'm looking forward to its return.

Sounds interesting; what is it, exactly?

So, they were on FSN before Spike came to be?

At 2/11/08 07:03 PM, pepeatumi wrote:

As Red said Tiger Mask has been around for a while, hell, he's the inspiration behind King (You know, from the Tekken series).
I'm not surprised. :P

As for Curryman, there's always been this STUPID RUMOR that its actually Daniels under a mask. They're two different people. Daniels is bald, Curryman has hair. Daniels can't dance, Curry man is a great dancer. They're just NOT the same.

The wig could just have hair attached. But it'd be disappointing if it were just Daniels under there. Don't ask me why.

Besides, Curryman is hot, spicy, AND he tastes great. No one else can say that.

KINICHIWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I love that. ^_^

At 2/11/08 09:03 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Whats wrong with Sharkboy? He's an awesome wrestler and obviously has a great sense of humor. It's nothing new for a company to mock or parody the other. Just look at Gillberg.

Good point; I remember him from the RAW 20th Anniversary, and it was blatantly obvious. Poor guy did get eliminated first, however.....

At 2/12/08 10:22 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Seeing Stevie tonight and the huge reaction he got was one of the best feel good monents I've seen in a long time. The crowd popped huge for him and he had their full support. I can only imagine how good that must have been for Stevie himself. I'm very glad to have seen that.

HE CAME BACK ALREADY!? DAMMIT!! I MISSED IT, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ECW TAPED FOR THAT NIGHT! DAMMIT!!!

At 2/13/08 07:57 PM, boloneyman wrote: Oh, Stephanie McMahon is pregnant again. I guess Hunter has been chilling with her the last couple of weeks.

Congrats.

At 2/16/08 10:26 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:

At 2/16/08 10:23 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: WWE is doing a good job in making Palumbo hated. It's probably a good thing that most don't remember him as the Chuck in the Billy and Chuck team. You know, the gay wedding storyline. Yeah, same guy.

I think it shows how unremarkable his previous runs were, that this is his third/fourth persona in the WWE, and every time he's been Chuck Palumbo.

Hopefully this gimmick will leave some sort of an impression. 4th time's the charm?

At 2/17/08 07:11 AM, MCU wrote: It is Daniels under a mask. He is likely wearing a wig to be recognisable to his indy fans.
In the indies and Japanese indies, he wrestled as Curry Man.

Damn, you spoiled it for me......sneaking his way back in like that........clever SOB......

He should stick with that gimmick; he does better at it.

At 2/17/08 08:49 AM, PantyWipe wrote: Sorry for the double post, but I didnt know wether or not you guys heard about this yet:

source: Wrestling Observer

-- Regarding Rey Mysterio's apparent biceps injury, it is being said that the muscle rolled up the arm, which would be a full tear. Mysterio is looking to avoid surgery at all costs because he doesn't want to miss WrestleMania. No word yet on what will happen with his title match with Edge at No Way Out tomorrow night.

Crap. He hasn't even been back for that long...........crap, that sucks. But who's available to take his spot?

Wow, Chavo pinned Punk clean. The good news is that now we could finally see Kane winning a title at WM. (the ECW title)

Taker is going to Wrestlemania!
Now come on Orton, you CAN do it!!!!!

Mmm...Cena vs Orton is not the ME? Strange...maybe Orton will somehow retain the gold...

Yes, DQ!!!!!!!!!!!!! Orton is still the WWE champion!!! :D:D:D

At 2/17/08 09:55 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Mmm...Cena vs Orton is not the ME? Strange...maybe Orton will somehow retain the gold...

Yup! Orton loses the match but it was DQ so he remains the champ. I still say Cena somehow gets in the WM main event and we end up with a triple threat.

i wanna join i wanna join

Forgot to mention this... THE BIG SHOW IS BACK AND LOOKING GREAT! He says he lost about 100 pounds. He then got his nose broken by Floyd Mayweather. I'm being serious, by the way.