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The Wrestling (WWE) Club

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-06 20:05:26


At 2/6/08 08:16 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: ECW was good last night. Dreamer and Morrison had a good bout as did Punk and Chavo. Even though the match itself was silly, (Throw the guy in the water) they still did a good job.

I liked the main event actually. It was different, and I just like brawl around the building type stuff. I also popped for the finish as the GTS into the water was really cool. I like that they tried something different, that's what that brand needs, they need to work on some different concepts and matches that will maybe make it stand out a bit more, instead of the same ol' same ol'. I also like that the message of "CM Punk is the real champ, Chavo is the pretender that screwed him" continues. I also like that Chavo is getting a chance to shine alone and dosen't need Edge and Co around.

Great interview segment with Stevie. I'm looking forward to seeing his return.

Me too, that was just great stuff. It should hopefully get people to care for Stevie more and help make him more of a star for that brand. Stevie has a lot to offer that company, always has, and they've never really brought it out. I like that this interview was just a complete shoot and they've created something with a lot of potential here if they do it right. This could be a good oppurtunity to maybe take a guy like and Elijah Burke or a Shelton Benjamin and make them a really dastardly heel in that they could be gunning to end Stevie's career.

That Kofi guy has some good moves, but they really need to lay off on the slow stuff next time. The crowd was very near to chanting "boring." Other than that... damn he's agile.

He is impressive, but he definitely needs to tighten up. He really impressed me last night though, I could see him definitely becoming a star of the future.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-06 21:20:09


I cant believe John Cena picked up sexual chocolate like that. That was the first thing hes done that has impressed me in YEARS.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-06 21:53:37


At 2/5/08 03:27 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Does this mean maybe, just maybe, he has a chance at winning the elimination chamber?
He got the pinfall on last nights RAW, a win at the next show against one of the top faces. Theres no one in the WWE on more of a roll than Jeff right now... Please, oh pretty pretty please.

The answer is no, Had the creative team wanted Jeff to be the champ, they would have crowned him at RR. Plus, Captain Invincible and HHH has the WM tickets punched already, maybe Jeff will be maineventing WM 25 if he gets lucky.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-06 22:26:20


At 2/6/08 09:52 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Geez, I'm gonna start callin you Dave Scherer Jr if you keep parroting him D{^:

I can think of worse things to be called. Plus, he's a Jersey boy like me, this does remind me to email him again about his ECW tapes.

So TNA is trying to hire Bob Knight....Yes, Coach Bob Knight. I don't understand why they'd wanna do something that no wrestling fan wants to see happen when they've got fundamental flaws to fix already. Then again, I haven't understood TNA in a long time so its not too surprising.

I think this may be more a situation where they're looking for attention vs. seriously pursuing anything. I think this is another of those Russo/Jarrett backed "any press is good press" kind of stunts, hoping for a plug somewhere. It would definitely be dumb and prove that they learned nothing from the Pacman Jones fiasco (not saying this is exactly the same, but a non-wrestling personality in wrestling only draws money if it's the right kind). It would also fly in the face of rumors that TNA is going to try and make their product more serious after the success of Global Impact.

Lately I've been watching a string of classic WWE matches and I noticed something. A lot of them seem to come around Mania time. I'd say a good majority do. Of course, thats no coincidence. Here are some of the Classics pumped out during the Mania time of year.

No surprise at all, this is WWE's biggest time of year, they make a ton of money here and usually it's their best time for ratings, of course, the audience isn't ramping up their interest like they have in the past. Will this change around Mania time? If it dosen't, I'd be pretty concerned if I was up in Titan Tower.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-06 23:18:16


At 2/6/08 10:26 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: No surprise at all, this is WWE's biggest time of year, they make a ton of money here and usually it's their best time for ratings, of course, the audience isn't ramping up their interest like they have in the past. Will this change around Mania time? If it dosen't, I'd be pretty concerned if I was up in Titan Tower.

I hope it doesnt change at mania time, that way it forces them to look at the product and go back to what makes wrestling boom in popularity every couple of years. We are long overdue for it. Ever since WCW went under, the lack of competition on monday nights has seemed to make the WWF get sloppy as hell.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 00:24:53


At 2/6/08 11:18 PM, PantyWipe wrote: I hope it doesnt change at mania time, that way it forces them to look at the product and go back to what makes wrestling boom in popularity every couple of years. We are long overdue for it. Ever since WCW went under, the lack of competition on monday nights has seemed to make the WWF get sloppy as hell.

I don't think it's lack of competition, it's that Stephanie Mcmahon's approach to creative sucks. I don't think people realize how important Chris Chreski was when he was in charge, plus at this point Vince has his vision of things, and his inner circle telling him it's right, and it seems like no one can really break through that idea like they could during the attitude era. Success breeds complacency.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 00:48:38


Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle @ Royal Rumble 2003 for the WWE Championship
Shawn Michaels vs Chris Benoit vs Triple H @ Wrestlemania 20 for the WHC
Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels @ Wrestlemania 21
Undertaker vs Kurt Angle @ No Way Out 2006 for the WHC

Four of my all-time favorite matches right here... I would add the Benoit-Jericho ladder match from the Royal Rumble to the list. And of course, Bret Hart vs Owen Hart from WM X which is in my opinion the single greatest opening match on any PPV.

I'll try to add a couple more later.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 01:21:46


The MITB matches have been my favorites these past few years. Which PPV did Austin and Bret Hart go at it? That was an awesome match too.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 02:20:58


At 2/7/08 12:24 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I don't think it's lack of competition, it's that Stephanie Mcmahon's approach to creative sucks. I don't think people realize how important Chris Chreski was when he was in charge, plus at this point Vince has his vision of things, and his inner circle telling him it's right, and it seems like no one can really break through that idea like they could during the attitude era. Success breeds complacency.

Spot on, avie.

I like that you think like I do about this shit. Now if only theyd just hire us as the bookers, wrestling would be fine.

Seriously though, they really do need to do a better job booking their shit. Im sick of their awful awful angles and gimmicks. I really dont mind gimmicks, so long as theyre entertaining and/or funny, 2 things 90% of the WWF's spots havent been in at least 2 years.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 05:39:32


At 2/7/08 05:32 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote:
P.S. Mickie James is ridiculously hot.

Yup, she sure is.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 08:23:02


At 2/7/08 05:32 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: P.S. Mickie James is ridiculously hot.

Indeed.

From what I have been reading, Raven and TNA are done. What do you think Raven will do? It's probably unlikely that he will end up with WWE, so maybe ROH or just stay in the indy's? I'd like to see him get another chance in WWE but on the other hand they would probably just waste his time and talent.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 10:14:27


I was reading Raven's blog a couple of days back and it seems he's currently planning on opening a wrestling school. As far as I'm concerned, that's the best thing the man can do. He has a great mind for the business, and he would make an excellent teacher.

And yes, Mickie James is HOT!! Are people just noticing this now?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 14:49:20


So... Wrestlemania is going to cost 55 bucks!! (65 in HD). Am I the only one that doubts that the card will live up to the price that we have to pay to watch?

All I can say is this... Thank god for illegal hook-ups >_>


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 16:57:22


At 2/7/08 10:14 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I was reading Raven's blog a couple of days back and it seems he's currently planning on opening a wrestling school. As far as I'm concerned, that's the best thing the man can do. He has a great mind for the business, and he would make an excellent teacher.

Raven could be an excellent teacher, if he can extricate some of that "anything I did was a great idea" attitude he has sometimes shown. I remember him defending the crucifixition angle in ECW as "white hot heat" and I think he's the only one that believes that. Plus I heard some stories about him having a somewhat negative influence on Afa Jr. from a personal friend of mine for a little while. I think he could still be an excellent trainer though, and more veterans teaching kids is a good thing, especially when places like WWE are getting more insular and are only teaching kids their way of doing things.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 17:13:49


WWE is going to cease affiliation with Ohio Valley Wrestling.

Source: Gerweck.net

February 7, 2008

World Wrestling Entertainment® announced today that Ohio Valley Wrestling (OVW) will no longer be affiliated with World Wrestling Entertainment as an official developmental territory, making Florida Championship Wrestling%u2122 (FCW%u2122) WWE's official development training facility for talent around the globe.

"Ohio Valley Wrestling has been a tremendous partner with World Wrestling Entertainment through the years, and we thank them for their work in developing many of today's WWE Superstars," said John Laurinaitis, Senior Vice President of Talent Relations. "We look forward to Florida Championship Wrestling playing host to the next generation of WWE Superstars recruited from around the world."

Last November, WWE announced the formation of Florida Championship Wrestling, a new training center for future WWE Superstars. The facility has four wrestling rings and approximately 35 contracted athletes, with plans to increase that number to more than 70 in the near future. The facility is now fully operational, as WWE undertook large-scale renovations to FCW in order to accommodate its training needs. The finished training facility is more than 10,000 square feet, including an arena that will seat nearly 300 fans. The new training facility will also host a weekly show in front of a live audience, to be broadcast for regional television.

FCW is owned and operated by Steve Keirn, a former professional wrestler and producer for WWE. WWE trainer Tom Prichard oversees all talent training at the facility.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 17:47:44


A lot of OVW talents had been afraid of this for awhile as it was becoming very obvious they were grooming FCW to be the new number 1, I think WWE should try to open another territory or two alla what Mike Johnson and Les Thatcher said about it gives you a better idea of how well these guys are doing when they work in front of different crowds and test gimmicks WWE wants to give guys because they go on TV and have to sink or swim.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 19:23:05


At 2/6/08 09:20 PM, PantyWipe wrote: I cant believe John Cena picked up sexual chocolate like that. That was the first thing hes done that has impressed me in YEARS.

Mark Henry would never come back if he knew that he would be a jobber like he is now.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-07 19:51:42


WWE has indeed severed ties with OVW, and as a parting shot fired Al Snow.

I wonder why WWE is getting rid of it's developmental territory that it's had for so long? They have gotten current stars from there (Cena, Batista, etc.) so it really puzzles me. Maybe it was the cost?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-08 20:04:45


And in other "Holy Shit!" news. SD! is leaving CW at the end of the season, sounds like the network finally decided they don't want wrestling anymore. The current scuttlebutt is MyNetworkTV may be bidding hard for it. Fuck I don't even know if I get that channel, and just when I'd begun to get back into SD! a bit.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-08 20:57:38


I've never even heard of that one.. Crap I don't have that channel, I don't want to miss SD due to this.

LOL Festus wearing a bag over his head was teh funniest damn thing I've seen in a long time. I had the t.v. to another channel and when I flipped it back I saw the two of them in the ring and I just burst out laughing when I saw them. Hahahaha, I'm a fan of Jesse and Festus now. :)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-08 22:11:42


At 2/8/08 08:57 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I've never even heard of that one.. Crap I don't have that channel, I don't want to miss SD due to this.

Apparently this story just developed today when WWE sent a press release out (including to PWInsider, which I found amusing, though it makes perfect sense). Guess WWE is trying to diffuse any sort of rumors early on and just get the story out there of "yes, we will no longer be on the CW, we'll let you know where we're going". From what PWInsider says, it sounds like this was a CW decision, and WWE wanted to stay on the network as obviously a network television show is a much better gig then being on cable because of the penetration you get from that. This is going to be an interesting story to follow.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-08 22:19:39


That really sucks. Wasn't SD the highest rated show on CW? I just hope SD finds a good channel we can all get.

Sd was very good tonight. Seeing Palumbo go crazy really helps his heel turn and give sympath to Noble. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

Kane and Benjamin had a great match as well. I really hope this leads Benjamin to bigger things, like getting included in this years MITB match. He and Jeff are awesome with ladders so them in the same match is sure to be awesome.

Think the Edgeheads will be the one's to get the tag titles back to SD? They beat the other top team in Wang/Moore twice now.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-08 23:26:30


How come that Jimmy Wang Yang and Shannon Moore suddenly become Edge's cronies' bitches? Wasn't Vince pushing them a few weeks ago? The tag division is DEAD.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-08 23:29:44


At 2/8/08 10:19 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Think the Edgeheads will be the one's to get the tag titles back to SD? They beat the other top team in Wang/Moore twice now.

Apparently, Vince is trying to make everyone who allied with Edge champion in a pathetic attempt to rebuild the Revolution.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-08 23:30:46


At 2/8/08 10:19 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Think the Edgeheads will be the one's to get the tag titles back to SD? They beat the other top team in Wang/Moore twice now.

Apparently, Vince is trying to make everyone who allied with Edge champion in a pathetic attempt to rebuild the Revolution.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-09 04:33:37


yet another shitty angle for another sub par week of wrestling.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-09 15:50:01


At 2/9/08 07:06 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Jesse/Festus, D&D, Moore/Yang, Hawkins/Ryder, Miz/Morrison. Naw, I'd say the SD!/ECW tag division is alive and being utilized regularly. Tag Team wrestling is almost guaranteed to never return to the glory days, but this is as good as it gets in the WWE, so take it.

Sure they are plenty of good tag teams, but do not forget that D&D have been jobbing for a few months by now. Yang and Moore are jobbing to the Edgeheads as well. Barring the champions, Jesse/Festus and the Edgeheads are the only pairs who are winning lately. I do not mind if those pairs beat each other up. But the fact is that right now you have Yang/Moore and D&D jobbing just to make the other teams look better, what the hell is that?

As for why the Edgeheads beat Moore and Yang, well, they needed a win and beating D&D wouldn't elevate much at all. You could argue that beating Moore and Yang doesn't either,look at how they've been doing recently(Defeating the champs in non-title bouts and forcing a draw in a title bout).

I know that Vince will eventually give the belts to the Edgeheads since that was the reason why the storyline was ever created. But yyou had Yang/Moore gaining all the momentum in the world like Jeff did and then got owned by two heels in two straight weeks? That was terrible booking!

And without spoiling too much, they return to the win column next week. It looks like they're building to a multi-team mini feud which will result in some #1 contenders perhaps.

Like I said, I will be very surprised if the Edgeheads fail to become the next tag team champions. I just hope that the company quit jobbing out other tag teams in the process!

Unless they decide to go the obvious route of Dreamer and Delany, but I'd be fine with that too.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-09 16:31:59


At 2/9/08 07:06 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Tag Team wrestling is almost guaranteed to never return to the glory days

Hardy Boyz, E&C, Dudley Boyz.
That was all you needed to create a succesful tag team division :)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-09 16:54:34


At 2/9/08 04:31 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
At 2/9/08 07:06 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Tag Team wrestling is almost guaranteed to never return to the glory days
Hardy Boyz, E&C, Dudley Boyz.
That was all you needed to create a succesful tag team division :)

And just look at how good Jeff, Matt, Edge and Christian are as singles wrestlers. It's no surprise that the Tag Division isn't as strong now.
Teams like that don't come along every day. Three of them at the same time is a fucking miracle.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2008-02-09 16:58:07


At 2/9/08 04:54 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: And just look at how good Jeff, Matt, Edge and Christian are as singles wrestlers. It's no surprise that the Tag Division isn't as strong now.
Teams like that don't come along every day. Three of them at the same time is a fucking miracle.

The key problem is that Vince constantly splits talented team up or bury them when they were poised to have a great run. Just look at MNM.


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