At 1/31/08 01:40 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: 1. Overall, it's a solid show. I'm not sure what everybody is bitching so hard about because with the exception of the rumble, you should have known every fucking finish to every fucking match (in terms of who would go over). That's not to say there weren't things I didn't like, but overall this was a real good show and I don't know how you can really feel ripped off here.

Personally, every time I read the results of a WWE PPV, I can't help but feel severely underwhelmed. If that's the feeling I'm supposed to get, then I'll never bitch again.
PPV's are supposed to showcase things that you can't see for free, but most of the matches didn't sound like they lived up to that.
MVP/Naitch sounded too short.
JBL/Y2J just sounded quite bad.
Orton/Hardy sounded too short and had an abrupt (and disappointing) end. Plus, they had Hardy going for batshit insane spots on free TV, and just had a normal match here. I don't get it.
Edge/Misterio sounds like it was probably worth the money.
I guess Cena returning does too, but I can't justify spending my money on the two good parts of a PPV.

Also, not a fan of what will be announced as the way SD! will determine a #1 contender at NWO. I mean, the Cena angle still wins the WTF? award for me this week, but the SD! announcement is a close second. I'm sure WWE thinks they're creating intrigue heading towards Mania, but to me it's just hurting my interest and excitement level hardcore and making me think that the buyrate drop is making them look a little desperate.

It sounds like total overkill. I didn't read the spoilers in detail, but this really caught my eye as being a bad idea.

At 1/31/08 08:00 AM, boloneyman wrote: I think it would be very interesting to see the two top faces go at it. Sometimes it sounds like teh fans cheer louder for Hardy. I would love to see the build up and who the fans side with. I'd love to see Hardy headline Mania too.

I think people would cheer Hardy and boo Cena, at this point I think at least some of the booing is because people like to screw with WWE, and the other half is the folks that think he's just pushed too hard, I don't think I'd do Cena/Hardy unless Hardy wins, plus you'd ORTON Randy again because you would send the message that most people already believe: Orton was only champion until Cena was healed, or until they discovered the next big babyface for him to drop it to. I still think it's better to put it on Hardy, then work Cena back up, plus, like I say, I hate the idea of how we'll get the SD! contender, which makes me wish that it was an SD! or ECW guy that won the Rumble.

At 1/31/08 08:00 AM, boloneyman wrote:

At 1/31/08 04:38 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote:
What do you guys think about Cena vs Hardy for the belt at Mania?

Why do you want Jeff to be further buried. For all the love of Jesus, do you really feel that Captain Invincible will LOSE to Jeff Hardy given that even Orton got a clean pinfall?

This completely slipped my mind, but who else laughed at Khali in the Rumble? When the fans started chanting "You can't Wrestle!" Oh, and did anyone else see Shawn bumping into the camera man?

At 1/31/08 06:11 PM, boloneyman wrote: This completely slipped my mind, but who else laughed at Khali in the Rumble? When the fans started chanting "You can't Wrestle!" Oh, and did anyone else see Shawn bumping into the camera man?

I caught the "You can't wrestle chant" which was great, although the moment of the rumble to me was the love and support Tommy got for his 90 or so seconds in the match.

I do wish Tommy had lasted longer and made a significance/impact on the rumble, but maybe having eliminated a big superstar.

Damn batista =[

At 2/1/08 12:24 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I caught the "You can't wrestle chant" which was great, although the moment of the rumble to me was the love and support Tommy got for his 90 or so seconds in the match.

The fans chanted the same thing when he and Finlay had the Belfast brawl. In my opinion, Khali has made Giant Gonzalez a wrestling GOD.

Guys, any predictions in this year's "No Way Out"?

My prediction for the chamber is HHH winning it. Jeff will probably go on to win the MITB match at Mania. I'm not sure what other matches are on the card.

The McMahon bastard son storyline has won the gooker award. Check it out here.

I just hope that Captain Invincible stays away from the gold at NWO given that it will be his first single match PPV after returning.

Just saw Smackdown, and it was not what i was expecting.
Wont ruin it for those of you who haven't saw it yet (it's just beginning in the US now isn't it?), but i will say that No Way Out is going to very interesting indeed :)

I have a question.
I love wrestling. It's very entertaining to watch, however, I'm not 100% sure on somethings in wrestling.
My first question is, don't you have to have a qualifying match to get in the Royal Rumble? If that's the case, how would Cena get in the Rumble if he was in a hospital bed for a ton of months?
That PPV was a huge disappointment. I'd like to see Kane fuck some people up. And I hope HHH does some shit to Cena to mess up his match at WrestleMaina

At 2/1/08 07:11 PM, Black-Lightning wrote: My first question is, don't you have to have a qualifying match to get in the Royal Rumble? If that's the case, how would Cena get in the Rumble if he was in a hospital bed for a ton of months?

Only a few people had to, and even one qualifying match was ignored (Yang and Moore getting in). Not everyone qualified, some people were simply just announced on the site.

At 2/1/08 09:39 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Only a few people had to, and even one qualifying match was ignored (Yang and Moore getting in). Not everyone qualified, some people were simply just announced on the site.

In most of cases, RR qualifying matches are just for those lesser superstars who have no chance at winning the RR. Big names normally do not have to quality for the rumble unless they are linked with some special storylines.

At 2/1/08 10:20 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: In most of cases, RR qualifying matches are just for those lesser superstars who have no chance at winning the RR. Big names normally do not have to quality for the rumble unless they are linked with some special storylines.

Plus it added meaning to meaningless house show and TV matches.

At 2/1/08 11:37 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote:

At 2/1/08 07:01 AM, youngblood26 wrote: Guys, any predictions in this year's "No Way Out"?

No, not until the day of the PPV or the day before.

Yeah, I guess you tradition still in favor.

At 2/1/08 11:54 PM, youngblood26 wrote: Yeah, I guess you tradition still in favor.

It makes sense too, then you can do the whole card vs. speculating on bits and pieces.

Why is Bid Daddy V in the Smackdown Elimination Chamber? Isn't he still on ECW? I'm not even going to rant on that, it is pretty obvious why its stupid.

Not as great as Raw's lineup if you ask me. MVP and Undertaker will be the two I'm excited to see. A little of Finlay too. I wish Kennedy was in the EC instead of JBL.

At 2/2/08 01:49 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 2/1/08 11:54 PM, youngblood26 wrote: Yeah, I guess you tradition still in favor.

It makes sense too, then you can do the whole card vs. speculating on bits and pieces.

I dunno but I will try yet I'm not the kind of guy who is expert in professional wrestling to do analysis and other stuff. I'm just a wrestling fan although other critiques says it's fake. Yeah, it's true but I only need entertainment.

I think having two of the same gimmick match on the same ppv is an awful idea, especially considering that it's the the chamber. That sort of cheapens it, and besides that once we sit through one chamber match, what will be so super special about the second? The beauty of the elimination chamber is that we see it like once a year so it has a special meaning to it, like the hell in a cell. So doing this just puzzels me. WWE honestly couldn't think of something else?

SD was pretty good last night, with my favorite match being the main event. Punk, Edge, Rey and Chavo put on a great show.

At 2/2/08 02:02 AM, boloneyman wrote: Why is Bid Daddy V in the Smackdown Elimination Chamber? Isn't he still on ECW? I'm not even going to rant on that, it is pretty obvious why its stupid.

Mmm...because Taker needs a fat personal bitch, I guess?

At 2/2/08 02:02 AM, boloneyman wrote: Not as great as Raw's lineup if you ask me. MVP and Undertaker will be the two I'm excited to see. A little of Finlay too. I wish Kennedy was in the EC instead of JBL.

Talkinhg about Kennedy, why not having Kennedy vs Flair at WM and give the win to Kennedy. We all know that Ric's career will last to WM at least. Kennedy needs a boost more than ayone else if he is ever going to be a world champion. We are still within a yeart removed from Kennedy winning. MITB, look at him now, going nowhere. After winning MITB last year, Kennedy proclaimed that he would win a major title at WM 24, I bet that Vince has forgotten that! The burial of true talent like Kennedy makes me sick.

At 2/2/08 02:02 AM, boloneyman wrote: Why is Bid Daddy V in the Smackdown Elimination Chamber? Isn't he still on ECW? I'm not even going to rant on that, it is pretty obvious why its stupid.

He's in a storyline with Taker, and ECW and Smackdown are pretty interchangeable now. I mean, if we didn't have BDV in there, then the only storyline in the SD chamber would be Khali/Finlay.

Not as great as Raw's lineup if you ask me. MVP and Undertaker will be the two I'm excited to see. A little of Finlay too. I wish Kennedy was in the EC instead of JBL.

MVP's inclusion just makes me wonder where Matt Hardy will figure in all of this. I don't see him and MVP being in a big Mania match if he isn't involved in the final PPV before Mania.

Sorry fo being late on posting, but I hadn't had the chance until now. I just watched Thursday's TNA, and even though A.J. did help out his partner like he should, he'll be paying hell from his boss - possibly ex-boss - next week, I'm certain.

That, and Matt Morgan's an idiot, but I think that was established a while back. :P

Good to hear that Big Show's on his way back & that his back pain has cleared up, and also that he lost so much weight. Now, bring him to SD & sic him on Khali.

Also, nice to see Brock Lesnar again; I guess him & Angle are still in cahouts, whether he's part of TNA or not. Maybe he can talk him into it later.

I'd post much more, but I have to go walk my dog for the night, then my neighbor's going to hit the sack, so I won't be able to get back on his comp. Till tomorrow, then. :P

Guys like Jericho, Regal and Dreamer underused and Cena winning the rumble?

Yea, sounds like 08 for the WWF is gonna be just like 07. Rad.

At 2/2/08 04:13 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: I bet that Vince has forgotten that! The burial of true talent like Kennedy makes me sick.

Now, the reason Kennedy dosen't get pushed:

"I don't take steroids because of the Wellness Policy. People who take steroids are asshole faggots. The Wellness Policy is awesome and it helps people and I'd never violate it. Billy Graham is disgusting, blah blah blah"

Signature Pharmacy list of people buying steroids online:

Ken Anderson, who wrestles as Ken Kennedy.

He embarrassed the company horribly when they didn't need it. He ran out being mr. shill for the policy, then got suspended and publicly caught violating it. I know he says he had a prescription, and maybe he did, but the point is that you can under no circumstances buy from an online pharmacy. Plus Kennedy has not been consistent in his match quality of late. Kennedy is paying the price for being a fucking bonehead and I don't blame the company for hesitating to put him into any kind of position to represent them since when they were all ready to do so, he boned them and himself.

At 2/2/08 06:49 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
MVP's inclusion just makes me wonder where Matt Hardy will figure in all of this. I don't see him and MVP being in a big Mania match if he isn't involved in the final PPV before Mania.

You're right. The smart thing to do would be throw Matt in there, maybe he will replace someone, but I doubt it. That way you get both Hardys in an EC match. Damn shame it won't happen.

I bought Rey Mysterio's DVD. The 3 disc set. I'm not gonna lie. He did cool stuff back in WCW, but I don't think it's anything compared to what he was doing on SD on his first debut. The 619 was amazing. He used to do a 619 style type thing, but in his movie, I only seen it connect twice. And one connect was with a camera, and not that iceman guy.
Does anyone know why Sabu was fired from WWE? I read that he was irresponsible when it came to his ring gear so they let him go. But that was wikipedia, and I dunno if that's true.
The sandman too. I read he needed a cig on a plane, but no one would give him one, so he beat up a guy that had some.
Stupid reasons to get fired...
Anyone know the real story?

At 2/2/08 11:42 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: He embarrassed the company horribly when they didn't need it. He ran out being mr. shill for the policy, then got suspended and publicly caught violating it. I know he says he had a prescription, and maybe he did, but the point is that you can under no circumstances buy from an online pharmacy. Plus Kennedy has not been consistent in his match quality of late. Kennedy is paying the price for being a fucking bonehead and I don't blame the company for hesitating to put him into any kind of position to represent them since when they were all ready to do so, he boned them and himself.

It's not as if the company weren't willing (and were about to) push Kennedy. If it wasn't for his idiocy, he'd be Mr. Kennedy McMahon right now, but he screwed himself out of that MAJOR push.
And he has been inconsistent, so I'm sure the WWE would rather wait to give him a push when they know he can be more reliable.

At 2/3/08 09:51 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: I'm not sure where this inconsistency stuff came from, I'd say Kennedy's in-ring work has been solid from December through. He may have had one or two "less-than-stellar" matches between his return and then, but that hardly qualifies as 'inconsistent'. Hell, he even had an impressive performance at the rumble.

I can't watch Raw, so I'm just going by what I read, and there's more bad stuff than there should be for him.

Besides, you guys know the entire Signature deal had no effect on the talent. Morrison returned and is now WWE Tag Champ. Chavos back and is ECW World Champ. Funaki? Well, he STILL has a job, which is still amazing and cool. Kennedy? He had a program with Michaels (earning a rare clean pinfall victory AND eliminating him from the Rumble) and now he's with Flair.

Kennedy shouldn't retire Flair though. And none of the other guys made as huge an ass of themselves as Kennedy.

I don't think that's too bad a spot for a guy like him. One last note on Kennedy, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the MITB match at Mania

Definately. He could put on a good match with guys like Jeff and Shelton in there. I wouldn't see him winning though.