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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-22 12:52:02


It's a bit strange that we didn't see Taker at all last night save for the video replays. You would think he would have something to say on the matter. He'll probably be on the next show to ruin Edge's day.

I am looking forward to seeing the tribute to the troops show. It's good to see the WWE bring them some happyness while they are away from their familys.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-22 18:11:28


At 12/22/07 05:00 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Londrick came into the year strong with some great contests with Deuce and Domino, but after they lost the belts, they've gone completely down hill. We're at the point now where, when they're not jobbing to the flavor of the month team (Rhodes/Holly, Highlanders, Marella/Carlito), they're jobbing in singles matches. They were a great babyface team during their run, but afterwards, their push went just as swiftly as it had come.

Bottom line: Go to RAW if you want your career to go downhill swiftly. Just look at Carlito and Mr. Kennedy!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-22 18:15:41


Hello; I would've posted my segment the other day, but my computer time at my neighbor's has been somewhat limited (the reason I had the spare key - his dog that I walk - now belongs to me as an X-mas present, so I had to return the key). And avie pretty much said EVERYTHING I would've said about last night's SD (which my neighbor's friend/employee is currently watching the recording of as I type, right now at the Jamie Noble part).

At 12/22/07 06:37 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Wow, iMPACT! was down right awful...there wasn't even anything I could stand to watch. Nothing made sense, everything sucked.....ugh. And no, the ladder match wasn't very good either.

The only good thing on that episode was underrated James Storm and Smokin' fine Jackie Moore.

WHAT!? The first match was a little meh, but even that was good. I liked the whole episode...........up until Angle clotheslined Santa & inadvertantly made that poor little girl in the audience cry - which lead me to imagine that Angle will most likely have angry parents throwings at him & little kids ganging up on him for QUITE A WHILE. Also, my neighbor said that it was very plausible that the girl's parents could sue Angle or even TNA for traumatizing her - seeing Santa get hurt can't possibly be too good for her 5-or-so-year-old psyche. Angle just became her personal Grinch this year.

At 12/22/07 07:47 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Reds' 2007 End of Year Award for Best Tag Team

We're in an age where Tag Team wrestling doesn't mean much. Sad, but true. Where theres talent, theres no creative direction. Where theres a division, theres no psychology. Where theres a good wrestling team, there are no others to feud against. There always seems to be something missing, a crucial element, no matter where you go from Tag Team Wrestling. Its really sad, especially considering that Tag Teams used to be as big a draw as singles.

But alas, Tag Team wrestling is down, not dead. There are a few teams out there that keep the hope alive. The following are teams that, during the course of 2007, exemplified what was great in Tag Team wrestling as best they could given their spot in their respective company.

Deuce and Domino. Cade and Murdoch. Latin American Xchange. The Motorcity Machineguns.

But out off all the good-to-decent teams, only one was really the best.

Team 3D. How a team can go a year without really winning too much at all and still have the heat they do is something not many teams, or single competitors for that matter, can do. They had some great matches against LAX early in the year until finally winning the belts in a less-than-stellar....electrified Cage Match. But in the process, they became the first team in history to hold the WWE/F, WCW, ECW, and now NWA Tag Titles. Since then, they were stripped of the NWA belts and granted the TNA belts shortly after due to the championship agreement between TNA and NWA ending. They went on to feud with the Steiners and after losing the belts to Joe and Angle due to Steiners interference, they turned heel. From there they feuded with the Steiners for a short while culminating in a 2 of 3 Falls Tables match, which they lost. Since then, they've carried out a feud against the entire X-Division in what has been one of the best feuds of the year.

But what gets Team 3D the award is two fold. One, the lifetime achievement of winning the prestigious NWA Tag Team Championships. Two, being the best pair of heels since Rated RKO. Granted, they've always been that good as heels, but they haven't had a really good heel run in a long time, and this run really has proved it again. Bubba Ray is nearly second to none as a heel with only Edge and possibly Christian beating him on the stick. Thats an awesome feat.

It's true, they're probably the best Tag-Team heels in the business.

At 12/22/07 12:52 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I am looking forward to seeing the tribute to the troops show. It's good to see the WWE bring them some happyness while they are away from their familys.

It's probably my favorite event of the year; it's a great thing to do for them, and no one else that I can think of gets this kind of a chance to do something for them DIRECTLY. It's amazing, really.


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One of the best threads ever.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-22 23:39:33


At 12/22/07 03:41 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Um, no mention of London and Kendrick?

It really is a shame about them. They were one of the best highlights of Smackdown having great matches each and every week. Once they went to Raw they practially dissapeared save for a few jobbing spots in singles competition, and a mini fued with the Highlanders.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-23 00:50:24


I can respect your respect for the past and history Red, but the NWA tag titles, the NWA world title...those belts DO NOT matter in this day and age. Just like the ECW title dosen't really matter...only more so. The NWA belts are being defended in high school gyms and shite across the country, the NWA is just a collection of indies too small to make an impact on their own, so they use a legendary name to do it.

I don't disagree about The Dudleys (they'll always be The Dudleys to me) as best heel team of this, or any other year they've worked as heels, but to say it has anything to do with winning the NWA Tag belts is just being a mark masquerading as seriously heaping praise. The same could be said of them winning the WCW tag titles when they really kind of didn't, they just won a WWE tag championship by another name.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-23 03:47:03


At 12/23/07 12:50 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: the ECW title dosen't really matter

Thats the truest shit Ive ever heard pertaining to wrestling.

Im from Philly and it literally KILLED the wrestling fan in me (I used to be an eager smark, when I saw what they did to ECW I became a jaded critic)

Calling the shit that they have on sci fi "ECW" is the worst injustice to the english language since McDonalds started calling their ketchup "fancy".

The tragic part was it started out (the first few shows) SO FUCKING GOOD. So it isnt a lack of booking knowledge, it was just a bullheaded stupid decision to make it WWF's ECW.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-23 11:32:20


At 12/23/07 03:47 AM, PantyWipe wrote: The tragic part was it started out (the first few shows) SO FUCKING GOOD. So it isnt a lack of booking knowledge, it was just a bullheaded stupid decision to make it WWF's ECW.

Blame Vince. He probably feared that if he made ECW more like the original (As in DIFFERENT!!) the fans would actually like it more than the other shows under the WWE banner. So what did Vince do? He changed to his vision... Another brand that's there to make stars so that they can go to RAW in a couple of years.

As for the NWA titles. Yeah, they've lost a lot of luster, but they're taking the right steps towards rebuilding that legacy by giving the titles to wrestlers from the current indy scene. Sure, they're not Terry Gordy and Steve Williams, but Joey Ryan and Karl Anderson are successful indy guys who could do well in holding the belts.

Hell, write it down. In the next couple of years, the NWA tag titles will have some prestige once again. And how are they going to do it? By having good wrestlers as their champions and building them up by having great matches.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-23 11:38:08


It was bad news for ECW the moment a zombie walked to the ring on the first show.

Considering how much momentum ECW had it really is a shame that Vince decided to make it just like the other shows.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-23 23:40:12


I've been hearing rumors that Sunny is going to make a return. Man it's been a while since we saw her huh? Wonder if there is any truth to that, and if so what would she do? Would she manage someone, or just be a diva? What WWE brand would she appear on?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-24 00:24:57


Pep, they could have the greatest matches in the history of wrestling but if there's no TV camera there to film it and broadcast it, it DOSEN'T MATTER. The NWA is dead, it died when Crockett sold to Turner, and then WCW pulled out of it. All that's left is a bunch of marks trying to make it work. I'd love to believe history can matter in the current incarnations of the business but it just isn't so. The NWA had it's time, and it's time is done. Same as the AWA, WCCW, ECW, WCW, and any other territory or league that folded up. It's dust in the wind.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-24 14:01:36


At 12/24/07 11:31 AM, Needle-In-Haystack wrote: I love WWE, can I join?

Post again and we'll make it offical. :)

I'd like to see the NWA brought back, but with the way it is right now it won't happen. They need to be reorganized, get some funding, talent, and find a way to get their product out there until they could get a tv spot. If they filmed their matches and had them on a web site, or sold it on DVD it would be good. Better then just having their stuff seen in high school gyms and nothing more.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-24 19:33:01


At 12/22/07 12:52 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: It's a bit strange that we didn't see Taker at all last night save for the video replays. You would think he would have something to say on the matter. He'll probably be on the next show to ruin Edge's day.

I just hope that the company is saving Edge vs Taker for WM.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-24 19:35:50


At 12/24/07 07:33 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: I just hope that the company is saving Edge vs Taker for WM.

All signs seem to point towards that being the way that they'll be steering things.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-25 00:54:15


Like Red just said, Merry X-Mas!!! And if you didn't see Tribute to the Troops on RAW last night (it now being almost 1:00 here in Florida), YOU FAIL AS A FAN!!! Well, unless there's a valid excuse.....

At 12/23/07 11:40 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I've been hearing rumors that Sunny is going to make a return. Man it's been a while since we saw her huh? Wonder if there is any truth to that, and if so what would she do? Would she manage someone, or just be a diva? What WWE brand would she appear on?

Perhaps that's why she made it to the RAW anniversary (being the first time I've heard of her; remember that I started watching only about 5 years ago) - as sort of a 'return'.


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One of the best threads ever.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-25 01:41:59


OMG, Cena is back! Now we are about to be forced to live with another long and boring title reign. Jesus, save us!!!!!!!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-25 10:41:38


Happy Holidays everybody, hope you have a very nice time!

Cena is still hurt, but is well on his way to recovery. It was good of him to travel to Iraq when he could have opted to stay home and rest. Last night's show was good too. Like I said, it's always nice to see the WWE do this for the troops.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-25 13:38:53


Last night's show is the one positive thing I can say for JBL, as I know he had a big hand in making these events happen.

Hope everyone is having a merry christmas thus far.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-25 17:49:04


At 12/25/07 10:41 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Happy Holidays everybody, hope you have a very nice time!

Cena is still hurt, but is well on his way to recovery. It was good of him to travel to Iraq when he could have opted to stay home and rest. Last night's show was good too. Like I said, it's always nice to see the WWE do this for the troops.

I ill not be surprised if Cena returns at Mania and wins the title, you know the WWE!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-25 19:46:27


Hey, did Ric Flair fight against Triple H last night? I missed the last match because it was late and I was afraid Santa wouldn't come.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-25 19:48:27


At 12/25/07 05:49 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:
I ill not be surprised if Cena returns at Mania and wins the title, you know the WWE!

Well, I don't agree with you but how is that a bad thing? Cena is the cooliest duuuude

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-26 01:25:45


Triple H and Ric Flair have their match next week on Raw. Also, not many people like Cena. I'm not too crazy about him. I just hate the idea of him coming back and having another year plus reign. Makes the show too boring.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-26 01:51:14


Alright, that's IT! I have been drinking (always a popular sign with some here, some being Outlaw, which is good, cause if your gonna get drunk, post in a club, your best person to have endorse that is the leader man), and I've been getting tired of this issue so I'm gonna comment:

Get the hell off John Cena's ass!!

Am I a John Cena fan? No, I wouldn't say I am, the man ain't my cup of tea. Not as a character, not as a wrestler, but I RESPECT him. You know why? Because he tries his ass off out there, even when he knows a crowd will hate him he still tries to give the best performance he can. Considering you have former world champions out there now who go into a building they know will hate them, and then go in the back and bitch how they never want to work in front of that audience again, and John Cena will go to the same building, work, get booed, and just go "whatever man" you have to respect that. Not to mention, hey! Cena has had some pretty freakin good matches this year. A lot of the stuff people bitch about with Cena isn't even really Cena's fault. Long title reign? Not Cena, that's creative kids. I've never heard word one about John Cena going in the back and saying "That belt needs to be on me for 18239042903 months cause I'm awesome!", the company decided he was the guy to do that with. Honestly? It kind of worked out because No Mercy saw a bit of a buyrate spike when folks knew there'd be a new champ (oh, and I'm easily willing to concede Jericho's possible appearance may have helped huge there too). Long title reigns are a staple of wrestling and that idea of short term champs is very very new, and pioneered by the Attitude era.

In the end, my point is there's things to not like about John Cena, it's true of anybody. But I don't think he deserves the outright hate and scorn heap upon him still by many here and elsewhere. Cut the guy a bit of a break in 08 kids. He earned it.

On that note, any hopes or things you want to see in 08?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-26 10:31:11


At 12/26/07 01:51 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: On that note, any hopes or things you want to see in 08?

Kennedy and Jericho to SD. MVP should stay on SD and have a long feud with CM Punk (They're both future stars, let them grow together). One long title run for Taker (PLEASE DON'T GET HURT AGAIN!) and I hope that if we get another draft, SD doesn't get raped.

I also hope that no former/current/soon to be Pro Wrestler dies. Seriously, we've had enough of that this year.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-26 11:00:17


An Aview unleashed has come again! WOOOO!

Things I'd like to see in 08? MVP put in the ME title picture. That guy has earned a spot as a top heel, and I'm sure if WWE gave him a chance he really could be the next big time heel in the company. I'd rank him right under Edge in that department.

I want to see sucess for both Hardy's. Jeff is well on his way to the ME, and Matt isn't too far behind either. A good U.S. title run would be best for Matt to further establish him as a top player.

I'd also like to see a bit less of Vince. His character really isn't needed as much as he thinks, let people like Coach and Regal get some better heat.

A better year for Carlito.

A Jericho title run.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-26 19:02:16


Merry Vincemas!!!!!

*gets shot*

Anybody actually bother to catch the ECW Best Of thingy last night? I could give a shit less about it either way, but I'm just curious.

At 12/25/07 01:41 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: OMG, Cena is back! Now we are about to be forced to live with another long and boring title reign. Jericho, save us!!!!!!!

Fixed. :P

At 12/25/07 07:46 PM, mothballs wrote: Hey, did Ric Flair fight against Triple H last night? I missed the last match because it was late and I was afraid Santa wouldn't come.

That's next week.

At 12/26/07 10:31 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I also hope that no former/current/soon to be Pro Wrestler dies. Seriously, we've had enough of that this year.

Agreed, but I think that goes without saying for everybody here.

At 12/26/07 11:00 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: An Aview unleashed has come again! WOOOO!

Maybe he should make a segment like that. :P

Things I'd like to see in 08? MVP put in the ME title picture. That guy has earned a spot as a top heel, and I'm sure if WWE gave him a chance he really could be the next big time heel in the company. I'd rank him right under Edge in that department.

I want to see sucess for both Hardy's. Jeff is well on his way to the ME, and Matt isn't too far behind either. A good U.S. title run would be best for Matt to further establish him as a top player.

I'd also like to see a bit less of Vince. His character really isn't needed as much as he thinks, let people like Coach and Regal get some better heat.

A better year for Carlito.

A Jericho title run.

Agreed on all fronts, although a little reluctantly to MVP getting a ME shot.


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One of the best threads ever.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-26 20:06:34


At 12/26/07 01:51 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
Get the hell off John Cena's ass!!

I really wouldn't mind him if he wasn't pushed so hard. I hate anyone who is the champ for too long. I start to lose interest in the show because it always ends the same way.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-26 20:35:08


At 12/26/07 08:26 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Coming Up Next: Feud of the Year

Matt Hardy vs MVP. It was a shame that Matt got injured. But without too many stellar feuds in 2007, Matt Hardy vs MVP still got voted in.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-27 01:25:10


Source: Rajah

- Rob Van Dam talks about his recent one night return to WWE at the 15th Anniversary RAW show as well as the controversy in baseball following the Mitchell Report in his latest blog. You can check it out at www.robvandam.com/blog.

To me, RVD is one of the best wrestlers out there today. I do not watch TNA religiously, but with more and more WWF talent that actually HAS talent jumping ship to TNA, I find myself tuning in more and more frequently.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-27 12:13:38


At 12/27/07 01:25 AM, PantyWipe wrote: Source: Rajah

To me, RVD is one of the best wrestlers out there today. I do not watch TNA religiously, but with more and more WWF talent that actually HAS talent jumping ship to TNA, I find myself tuning in more and more frequently.

Hmm.........WWE needs to watch out with this new "competitor".


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-12-27 13:06:07


What TNA really needs to do is to become it's own entity. Right now it is just a copy of WWE and for an audience looking for an alternative to what WWE presents that puts them at a disadvantage.


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