At 11/10/07 11:23 PM, sixonenine wrote: Do you think that in some unexpected way Hornswoggle will win his match with Khali??

Does anyone really care?

I do find it interesting and cool that they have Matt and MVP on opposing teams in the SS style match. You know at one point they are going to fight each other.

At 11/10/07 11:23 PM, sixonenine wrote: Do you think that in some unexpected way Hornswoggle will win his match with Khali??

If he does then you know they are downpushing Khali hard. Hey, they did it when I said it for Masters, so I'll try it here too:

Cut bait on Khali, he sucks, he isn't getting better, there's no upside to him, no one cares. Just dump him.

*waits for the release announcement*

At 11/11/07 03:53 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 11/10/07 11:23 PM, sixonenine wrote: Do you think that in some unexpected way Hornswoggle will win his match with Khali??

If he does then you know they are downpushing Khali hard. Hey, they did it when I said it for Masters, so I'll try it here too:

Cut bait on Khali, he sucks, he isn't getting better, there's no upside to him, no one cares. Just dump him.

*waits for the release announcement*

I honestly don't think they're gonna release him at all...........the guy turns heads.........He is an attraction to the audience. I don't see why everyone is downing him.

At 11/11/07 03:53 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Cut bait on Khali, he sucks, he isn't getting better, there's no upside to him, no one cares. Just dump him.

*waits for the release announcement*

Fingers crossed!

I am looking forward to see HHH and Kennedy go at it. I think if they had a ppv singles match they could tear the house down.

At 11/11/07 10:13 AM, sixonenine wrote: I honestly don't think they're gonna release him at all...........the guy turns heads.........He is an attraction to the audience. I don't see why everyone is downing him.

Because the guy does not draw, he does not have good matches, you just wait for him to be done and gone. He's like El Gigante (Giant Gonzalez) he's freakishly huge, but he has no aptitude for the wrestling business whatsoever and none of his matches are watchable. Anybody they have job to this guy is a good soldier and a poor bastard because it's not like Khali is ever really going anywhere. He won the World Title yes, but was his reign any good? Is anybody gonna remember the matches he had? All the guy has is being freakishly large and that just isn't going to sustain him in this business. People will get tired of him (I think most already have) and then it becomes all about what he can and can't do in the ring. You can't rely on just one attribute to get to the top or even just stay on a roster somewhere. Khali only has the one thing, and frankly? I'd say the clock is ticking.

Especially because I said those magic words...goddamn I better have some undiscovered power here...there's some other useless and undeserving fucks I want to use it on...

hey now you are fotgetting one of his other atributes here. The fact that he speaks gibberish is probably his best quality.

Who else would you cut from the roster avie?

CM Punk was cool to fight on SmackDown against Jaime Noble last Friday night but distracted by The Miz and John Morrison about the ECW Championship match at Survivor Series...

At 11/11/07 06:32 AM, KJDunwoody wrote: It defiantly is Booker so you can stop gossiping wondering and it was Pantywipe that thought it was Scott Hall then when I said it was Booker he insulted me and said well if Kevin Nash said it then it must be true I was like... what?

I never insulted you! Youve got the wrong person.

At 11/12/07 11:43 AM, KJDunwoody wrote: I'm shocked that no one has posted yet saying it was Booker T at Genesis. Hopefully i'm the first.
Also good thing he didn't use the king gimmick as its owned by WWE but frankly the gimmick was no good anyway.

Im glad because I hated that fucking gimmick.

Also, Read the post above the one you just posted. It wasnt me. I demand a retraction!

HAPPY BIRTHDAAAAAY........................TO MEEEEE.

I'm officially 21 years old now, but I'll be one of the few to turn 21 that WON'T be completely blitzed at the birthday party. :P

At 11/11/07 06:32 AM, KJDunwoody wrote:

At 11/10/07 10:00 PM, Assi9 wrote: I haven't even heard of him until my neighbor informed me, but I think the booming ovation from the fans last Thursday was self-explanatory. And if he IS indeed still wrestling, then by all means he should be.

Some wrestling fan you are.

I was a bit later to the party than most of you, so shaddap.

At 11/12/07 07:35 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: hey now you are fotgetting one of his other atributes here. The fact that he speaks gibberish is probably his best quality.

Lol, quoted for truth; I doubt that any of whatever the fuck he says is even actually Indian language.

At 11/12/07 11:43 AM, KJDunwoody wrote: I'm shocked that no one has posted yet saying it was Booker T at Genesis. Hopefully i'm the first.
Also good thing he didn't use the king gimmick as its owned by WWE but frankly the gimmick was no good anyway.

And I'm sure that he'll have something to say about Vince having him do that come Thursday, if he hadn't already said something at Genesis about it.

Also if anyone remembers Johnny 'The Bull' Stambolli from WWE/ECW he was wrestled at Genesis as the dude in the box.
I think he's going to be a regular fixture at Tna.
Tna seem to have a thing for freaky.. freaks don't they?

A.k.a. Vito. Once again, he'll DEFINITELY have something to say about THAT on Thursday. If he doesn't, I'll be shocked.

At 11/12/07 07:35 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Who else would you cut from the roster avie?

Most of these balloon body, talentless divas. There are tons of female wrestlers out there that are also pretty good to look at. I'd be hiring them so as to add some credibility to my women's title. Why have a division if I won't use it? So yeah, I shit can most of the diva search rejects, the new girls anyway. I hang onto chicks like Kelly because she's been established as a personality, I hang onto Victoria and Mickie, because again established and talented mechanics.

Honestly? I think those are the only people I really see no use in at this point, I think just about everyone else getting TV time is pretty deserving but there are many that could be used better. I would have said fire Miz a while ago but I think he's starting to improve and he's becoming a good jerky heel, so I keep him to see if he develops.

At 11/12/07 11:16 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Hmph, you should at least cut Snitsky. Personally, I'd let the Womens Division go and keep the girls around only as valets. WWE doesn't DO womens wrestling, they do women flopping around in the ring. Do that and let the talented ones go to TNA.

I forgot Shitsky, mostly because he hasn't been on TV lately. He's my friend Jason's boy and all (back when Jason worked for Afa's WXW, Snitsky was a regular) but I've never seen shit in the guy, like everyone else. Maybe it's a lack of aptitude, maybe with a few years more seasoning he'd be worth it. It kind of seems like the best option now for WWE is maybe to fire a guy, see if he'll go to Japan and imrpove, and then bring him back when he improves. Might they wish to consider a talent exchange with a japanese company? I think it'd be smart, but damned if they'd ever cede the control over to that company like they'd need to for anyone to improve.

At 11/12/07 05:39 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: From wwe.com:
Umaga has overruled Mr. Kennedy and inserted himself as captain of his Survivor Series team. Also, the Samoan Bulldozer will take Kennedy's place in the Lumberjack Match against Triple H tonight on Raw. Story...
Stupid as hell. I'd rather see Kennedy and H wrestle.

That's why Kennedy should not come to RAW, now he is getting buried alive on the bottom of the main event food chain.

At 11/13/07 04:05 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Also cocks

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseactio n=vids.individual&videoid=21943234

That is, by far, the best way for me to start off the weekend. Brilliant.

I've been hearing rumors that Carlito has asked for his release from his contract. This might explain why he wasn't on Raw this week. I hope it isn't true, but if it is I can't blame the guy. He has been in a lull for the longest time.

Best match of the night had to go to the 6-man-tag. Great stuff.

At 11/13/07 07:35 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I've been hearing rumors that Carlito has asked for his release from his contract. This might explain why he wasn't on Raw this week. I hope it isn't true, but if it is I can't blame the guy. He has been in a lull for the longest time.

Not only that, but there were a couple of shows here over the weekend, they were SD shows but since it was in Puerto Rico, Carlito was added to the card... He jobbed in every match he was in. Not only that, but most of his merchadise has been put on a clearance sale.

In my opinion, when (not if) Carlito is released, TNA SHOULD pick him up. Carlito still has a lot of upside, and I still maintain that he hasn't been nearly as good as he can be during his WWE run.

Jobbed all his matches even the one in his home town. God damn Vince McMahon is spiteful as fuck.

Oops! It seems WWE spoiled something... Even if everyone knew already

ZOMG! He's coming back!

Paying close attention to the Save_Us promo last night, it appears that Jericho's going to show up on RAW next Monday. I could be wrong, but the words 'NEXT MONDAY' did appear. :P

The Lumberjack Match ended how it should've ended - with a mass brawl. ^_^ And Jeff Hardy has established in his own way that he's hating how MVP handles being his bro's tag partner. A good way to end the show.

Mickie James definitely had my attention last night. ^_^ And if she didn't have yours, well then, you fail at being straight.

just kidding

Poor Maria gets to wrestle for once, and she gets pwned by Beth Phoenix.....only to have her boyfriend show up - and not give a rat's ass about her. Luckily, Lawler pwned him TWICE. ^_^ Like JBL said about himself, he may be retired, but he's not dead. :P A highlight of the night. Too bad that the little SS flashback with the midgets & clowns may've soured the moment for him, lol.

The Batista/Taker tag match went well, with both of them sending messages to each other using Cade & Murdoch as sacrifical lambs. Lucky for them, it wasn't a title match....

The other tag match went well, too, with double-619s & Swantons aplenty.

All in all, the night went well. I could've done w/o the pointless Snitsky promo, though.

At 11/12/07 06:00 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote:

At 11/12/07 12:38 PM, Assi9 wrote: A.k.a. Vito. Once again, he'll DEFINITELY have something to say about THAT on Thursday. If he doesn't, I'll be shocked.

Bzzzt. Vito and Johnny Stamboli are two completely different persons.

Wait, then when the hell did Vito come in with Nunzio? Or did the FBI disband already by then? Sometimes I get lost on Creative's storylines......

Last night was another solid TNA PPV showing. Watching it, I think they could have done better in some spots/matches, but overall it was an enjoyable show. Of course, for me, the highlights of the night were Dutt vs Lethal and the angle that followed their match, and the Storm/Young segments. Every other match was par for the course, and I gotta say it was great to see Kaz get the big win, even though I knew it'd lead to a squashing on iMPACT! rather than a PPV bout as it should be. The threads are slowly begining to come loose for Christians Coalition it seems, but I'm intrerested in seeing how far they take that.

Glad to hear that Christian got pwned on his own turf. ^_^

Booker seemed really excited to be there, and he fed off the crowd really well. Though I didn't get the booking which led him to be knocked out for the last 3 minutes or so of the match. That seemed really stupid to me.

Oh, I'm sure he was excited to be there; he didn't have to do any 'King' crap anymore & he could just be HIMSELF - just how it should be.

At 11/12/07 11:16 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Hmph, you should at least cut Snitsky.

I could care less either way, unless they actually decide to give him a push.
Personally, I'd let the Womens Division go and keep the girls around only as valets. WWE doesn't DO womens wrestling, they do women flopping around in the ring. Do that and let the talented ones go to TNA.
TNA's doing a pretty good job at giving the Divas a run for their money now that they have a women's division of their own, even if they take a somewhat different approach (focusing more on actual talent than looks, although there are quite a few lookers there, too).

At 11/13/07 04:01 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote:

At 11/13/07 01:20 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: That's why Kennedy should not come to RAW, now he is getting buried alive on the bottom of the main event food chain.

Kennedy had the chance to be a big player, but he blew it. Kennedy has to pay his dues again if he wants to work his way back up.

Wait, how'd he screw up? I apparently forgot.

At 11/13/07 07:35 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I've been hearing rumors that Carlito has asked for his release from his contract. This might explain why he wasn't on Raw this week. I hope it isn't true, but if it is I can't blame the guy. He has been in a lull for the longest time.

He's been jobbing for how long now? I can't blame him, either.

IT'S NOT COOL.

At 11/13/07 12:06 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Not only that, but there were a couple of shows here over the weekend, they were SD shows but since it was in Puerto Rico, Carlito was added to the card... He jobbed in every match he was in. Not only that, but most of his merchadise has been put on a clearance sale.

Wow, he's getting screwed over far worse than I thought. >_< DEFINITELY NOT COOL.

With that, he should definitely spit apples on his contract, then in Vince's face, and walk the fuck out.

At 11/13/07 02:32 PM, Assi9 wrote: Wow, he's getting screwed over far worse than I thought. >_< DEFINITELY NOT COOL.

With that, he should definitely spit apples on his contract, then in Vince's face, and walk the fuck out.

Yer making me job in my home town? .....thats not cool, main. *SPITS APPLES*

At 11/13/07 04:52 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: If Carlito got his release and went to TNA, I'm ure he'd be a fine pick-up, but I'd rather see him go to Smackdown or ECW and get pushed back into the upper mid-card. I don't think TNA would be able to use him wisely either, but WWE has shown that they can...when hes not on raw :^} (

I feel the same, but I think at this point WWE has decided that Carlito is someone they don't want anymore, and he's doing all these jobs to lower his profile and potential value to competitors before they release him. It's petulant as hell, but I do think it's an issue both sides have created and exacerbated. A shame, Carlito may never be a main eventer, but he can easily be a great upper-mid card act.

It just figures though. All the guys I root for end up becoming jobbers or fired. Or in this case walk away. Oh well, at least I can still cheer for the Hardyz, and a returning Jericho.

I missed ECW last night, and by looking at the results I wish I hadn't. I would have liked to have seen the Hardyz against MVP and Kennedy.

How was the show?

At 11/14/07 08:15 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I missed ECW last night, and by looking at the results I wish I hadn't. I would have liked to have seen the Hardyz against MVP and Kennedy.

How was the show?

Tghe match ended with an interesting twist: Matt Hardy got pissed at MVP for allowing Kennedy to screw over his brother, but MVP saved Kennedy from steel-chairing Matt. Quite the setup.

Sorry to double-post, but I worded that last part wrong, and I posted it before I could fix it; I meant to say that MVP saved Matt from getting steel-chaired by Kennedy.

WARNING! CONTAINS MINOR SPOILERS!!!!!

Source: PWInsider.com

A fight broke out backstage last night in Wichita, Kansas after SmackDown! was taped. After the show was over, JBL gathered a number of WWE superstars together, including John Morrison, The Miz, MVP, CM Punk, and Matt Hardy.

JBL berated Miz and Morrison for their color commentary work on ECW. JBL was furious that the two made Punk look bad with their commentary. They were heels and were supposed to criticize Punk in a heel way, but JBL felt they went too far with it. JBL then yelled at them for their ring work during their match with MVP & Matt Hardy. JBL told Miz & Morrizon to apologize to Punk, MVP & Hardy for making all 3 of them look bad.

The Miz apologized, but Morrison told JBL "F*ck you, it's none of your business". He then said he would apologize to Punk, Hardy & MVP, but not because JBL told him to.

The confrontation went back and forth until Morrison shoved JBL. Several agents broke up the dispute before it got further than a shove.

How would you say their commentary actually was? Did they deserve what JBL was talking about?

At 11/14/07 01:43 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: How would you say their commentary actually was? Did they deserve what JBL was talking about?

It was terrible. They paid no attention to the match. Both Taz and Styles tried to get them to pay attention to the match, with Taz even saying something like, you guys should be scouting Punk instead of arguing with each other.

It got to the point where Joey just stopped calling the match. He went quiet for a while then Taz tried to get Styles to keep calling the match. Basically, they tried to put themselves over while ignoring the Punk-Noble match (which was really good, by the way) and basically dismissing them as unimportant.

You pretty much kill yer career in WWF when you go against Bradshaw.

Why am I having a bad feeling that Orton will drop the WWE title at Survival Series? Do not be fucking stupid, Vince...I am warning you! >:(

At 11/12/07 12:53 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

:but he has no aptitude for the wrestling business whatsoever and none of his matches are watchable. Anybody they have job to this guy is a good soldier and a poor bastard because it's not like Khali is ever really going anywhere. He won the World Title yes, but was his reign any good? Is anybody gonna remember the matches he had? All the guy has is being freakishly large and that just isn't going to sustain him in this business. People will get tired of him (I think most already have) and then it becomes all about what he can and can't do in the ring.

Big show is freakishly huge and he lasted