At 9/3/07 09:16 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: The thing that gets me the most about this whole drug controversy is that the only reson these guys are in trouble now is because they got caught, or in this case had their names listed. Which means WWE is not really trying too hard to do it themselves, more of a don't ask don't tell policy.

The drug policy has been INSANE since Benoit went to a rage and killed his wife and children. But what I am saying is that the company just cannot suspend everyone who failed the wellness test considering that most of them are the top talent that the WWE need for their main events. Who is going to watch a middle card, or say even a low card challenging Cena for the title? At least I won't.

At 9/3/07 07:44 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: The drug policy has been INSANE since Benoit went to a rage and killed his wife and children. But what I am saying is that the company just cannot suspend everyone who failed the wellness test considering that most of them are the top talent that the WWE need for their main events. Who is going to watch a middle card, or say even a low card challenging Cena for the title? At least I won't.

It dosen't matter, you fuck up, you sit the hell down and somebody else steps up. The main eventers of now are the mid-carders of yesterday. This situation will create opportunity for those who step up and take it, and I hope the guys who get the ball run hard with it and score a touchdown and stay clean. The business HAS to clean the hell up.

A bit of a different subject, but has anyone seen the Straight Shootin DVD with Raven? The man is probably the smartest man in the business and it surprises me that he hasn't retired as an in-ring competitor to become a booker or an agent.

damn.... "things are looking up"???? I was really hoping it would be Mr. Kennedy. I mean... Mr. Kennedy can talk and he kinda looks like a McMahon....
so if it isn't Mr. Kennedy... then who the hell is it? It can't be a hardy boy cuz it's ONE son.
Snitsky?
Hornswoggle?
Hardcore Holly?
Kenny Dykstra?
John Morrison?
I hope we will be able to find out sometime next week.
ALSO... I noticed JR saying .... "mcmahon's sun is a raw superstar... or WWE supersar" that being said... it probably is a raw superstar.

In other news... RAW has been MUCH better without that Bobby Lashley.

I was thinking Hrnswoggle since the cluse is "Things are looking up." I don't if that could work at all though.

I missed most of Raw tonight, I felt awful and decided to nap. I saw Jeff's match, Sandman hitting Santino with the stick, and the McMahon family segment. How was the rest of the show.

Jeff should has done a split legged moonsault on Umaga as a finisher. The way he won made it look a little too easy.

At 9/2/07 09:35 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I don't know if you guys have heard this, but some parts of Batista's upcoming book have been leaked.... And I have the name of the book and its chapters.

Do I Shake The Rope, or Does the Rope Shake Me? A look into the philosophy of Batista

Chapter 1: Me and the roids

Chapter 2: More roids

Chapter 3: I want my rematch

Chapter 4: I exposed somebody's ass tonight

Chapter 5: How I got my ass kicked by Booker T

Chapter 6: Interview with #1 contender Basketball

Chapter 7: Well, at least I'm not worse than Khali...right?

Chapter 8: How to correctly insert steroids

Chapter 9: Uhhhhhhh........

Chapter ten: Even as a face I can beat people up whether if I win or lose.

Chapter 11: I had no charisma, so I let the fireworks do it for me

Chapter 12: How I got my groove back... Wait...

Chapter 13: Evolution is a mystery. Befriending Triple H to get to the top isn't

Chapter 14 Atleast the internet nerds likes me more than Cena. Don't they?

chapter 15: I can't believe i'm not buttered

Chapter 16:How I lost 7 world title matches in one year

Chapter 17: How I got Ariel fired for no reason.

Chapter 18: Rematch again; I promise I'll win this one. Seriously. I mean it. Absolutely, positively. If I don't you can slice off my member.

Chapter 19: Go ahead, slice it off. It's all shrunken from roids anyways.

20:BATISTA IS DOWN! BATISTA IS DOWN!!!l

Chapter 21: How to be a great role model for kids

Chapter 22: Philippines

Chapter 23: How I bribed Vince to give me constant title shots, which i lost

Chapter 24: My BFF: Steroids; A Life Long Relationship

Chapter 25: Stair Roids

Chapter 26: Remaaaaaaaaaaatch

Chapter 27: I know. I'll shave my head to be more popular and edgy.

Chapter 28-Wen I go home a wite abut my rematch

That looks like a best-seller to me!

The jokes on you, I already have it preoredered and it's going to be amazing. By the way, the should stop with the rematch thing and just give him the title. Ever since Angle and Show are gone, he's the only one really fun to watch. Batista FTW!

Chapter 29 - How Batista became the biggest thing since toast.

Chapter 30 - How Batista DESTROYED Cena without a doubt at Royal Rumble, the best Royal Rumble I've seen in MY WHOLE F*CKING LIFE!!!

At 9/4/07 12:12 AM, MegaGold wrote: Chapter 29 - How Batista became the biggest thing since toast.

Chapter 30 - How Batista DESTROYED Cena without a doubt at Royal Rumble, the best Royal Rumble I've seen in MY WHOLE F*CKING LIFE!!!

Chapter 31- How to get the boo boo face, be completely inferior to everybody else, and still have marks loving me.

I'm not sure who Vince's kid will be now, but I'm damn sure it's not anyone Yoink mentioned, especially not John "seeya in 30 days!" Morrison.

At 9/4/07 01:41 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Snitsky. And you know McMahon will do it. After the absymal reaction he got a couple weeks ago, he probably will see it as a chance to finally get him over.

Considering that WWE usually blows these sorts of major storylines with things like this, I guess we can't rule it out....I think it could be interesting if CM Punk was his son, because you could do Vince trying to bond with him and offering him a beer or something and Punk just slapping him around. I'm NOT suggesting a new Austin vs. Mcmahon rehash, I'm saying you play this as Vince seriously trying to bond with his son and just totally not getting it. Think Dr. Evil and Scott Evil.

"Things are Looking up"

Yeah, that roster is total bull, but at least there's jeff hardy.

At 9/4/07 05:51 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Just look at the roster for Smackdown vs. Raw 2008 and tell me it isn't a crock of shit.
I mean, including people like Sabu, Cryme Tyme, Kelly Kelly, Michelle McCool, Snitsky and a mere 7 Legends, and leaving out people such as London & Kendrick (YET AGAIN), Rob Van Dam, Shelton Benjamin, Jimmy Wang Yang, Deuce & Domino, Cade & Murdoch, the rest of the New Breed, and failing to have Booker T known as King Booker?

Thanks a fucking bunch, THQ. I'm not wasting my money on a piece of shit roster like that.

Christ, that looks pretty bad. I'm tempted not to buy it, seeing as I didn't really enjoy last years THAT much.
I think it's worth waiting a few months after it's come out to see whether the CAW is good enough to rectify the roster. If not, fuck it, I'll buy Pro Evolution Soccer instead.

At 9/4/07 05:51 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Thanks a fucking bunch, THQ. I'm not wasting my money on a piece of shit roster like that.

At least CM Punk is in it...

If they did choose a Hardy it would not be both. They are brothers yes, but not twins. Things are looking up doesn't make any sense to me so I have no idea who it could be.

Come on! You guys are blasting the roster and the sure-fire suckage of the gameplay, but you didn't notice something important.

HHH
JBL
Vince
Shane

They're in the game... In a suit! Fuck the rest of the game, people are wearing suits. That's enough to make me buy the game. I can't wait to create Cody Rhodes... in a suit!

At 9/4/07 12:27 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I can't wait to create Cody Rhodes... in a suit!

I'm going to create Hornswoggle in a suit, and "Triple H in a suit" in a suit. It's going to be epic.

so who do you think the son is now????
CM Punk? possibly
perhaps both Hardy Boys... they're both champs now.
maybe Kane? cuz he deserves a championship belt.

I hope we don't have to wait another month to figure this out...

At 9/4/07 12:50 PM, YoinK wrote: so who do you think the son is now????
CM Punk? possibly
perhaps both Hardy Boys... they're both champs now.
maybe Kane? cuz he deserves a championship belt.

I hope we don't have to wait another month to figure this out...

Apparently it's going to be next week on Raw. I think it'll be Snitsky, it makes sense.

Here's A random fact.

The first cage match ever was in 1937 Atlanta, Georgia between Jack Bloomfield and Count Petro Rossi.
The cage was made out of chicken wire.

At 9/4/07 12:57 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: I was really looking forward to playing Londrick, how the hell do you ignore the guys that carried your tag division for nearly a year?

Its a shame, if only they wore suits they would have been added to the roster. Guess I'll have to create London and Kendrick... In a SUIT!

Personally, I'll wait for Fire-Pro Wrestling to come out. I'm willing to sacrifice some of the graphics for what will probably be a better all-around game.

At 9/4/07 12:50 PM, YoinK wrote: so who do you think the son is now????

It is a shame that Kennedy failed his wellness test, he was just about to receive a mega push...Now since he has failed the tesyt, expect his push to fall from the sky. Someone was talking about Umaga being pushed as a monster face, YEA, RIIIIIIGHT! Look at what HHH just did to him. Here is the bottom line: if you fail your wellness test, then your push is DEAD no matter who you are.

Man I haven't owned a WWE game since the original Smackdown! Ah good times. I have the guide laying around somewhere, I should look at the line up for nostalgia. That is disapointing that Londrick didn't make the new game, I supposeall of their moves would be a programmer's nightmare.

Honestly, with few exceptions, I look at this roster and what I see is a them probably suffering from accomodating the three brands, and just game maker laziness. This seems a much smaller roster then we've seen in the past, and it seems also that they were definitely trying to accomodate all three brands with kind of an "all-star feel" in terms of their main guys and their legends. You also have to remember rosters are done pretty much first thing, but I'm pretty sure they'll have snuck King Booker or John Morrison in there with some quick text modding (If I can do it with a gameshark, they should be able to do it). But to be honest, this roster seems a bit sparse, even if you are supposed to be doing some big all-star thing and THQ is really going to have to explain WHY it's so short, but I'd wonder if their current issues with WWE don't have something to do with it.

Here's the deal with the SD series....

The guy's at Yukes suck and are lazy, since there's a lot of wrestling/video game fans, the games sell a lot no matter how underwhelming they may be. Yukes sees that the sales are good (maybe great), they continue to be lazy and we get another crappy version the next year.

The only work they actually do is with the graphics and then we end up with a beautiful game.... That's riddled with stupid glitches and terrible gameplay.

Haha, I found the line up for the first Smackdown game ever.

Al Snow
Big Boss Man (R.I.P)
Big Show
Bradshaw (APA gimmick)
Buh Buh Ray Dudley
Chris Jericho
Christian (Still part of the Brood)
Chyna
Debra
D'Lo Brown
D Von Dudley
Edge
Farooq
Gangrel
The Godfather
Hardcore Holly
Jeff Hardy (woot)
Kane
Ken Shamrock
Mankind
Mark Henry (Sexual chocolate *shudders*) He wasn't a fat sack of crap back then.
Matt Hardy (woot)
Mr. Ass
Paul Bearer (you can actually play as him)
Road Dogg
The Rock
Shane McMahon (in a suit)
Steve Blackman (I miss him, he was awesome)
Stone Cold
Test
Tori
Triple H
Undertaker
Val Venis (He looks bigger)
Vince McMahon (in a suit)
X-Pac

It was a simpler time...

I've stopped getting the SD games. I felt no desire to buy it last year, since my feeling was I was playing the same game over and over, but with a few different wrestlers. Now I know the basic part of the game is to win the main title, and thats fine, but the past few games didn't let you do anything else. No IC title runs, no tag teams, nothing extra to do. So I just didn't want to buy another game. Until one comes out with a damn good roster and a better story mode, then I might buy it.

So.... Cade and Murdock dropped the tag titles to London and Kendrick in South Africa.

And here's the proof

It wouldn't surprise me if they drop it to Cade and Murdoch in another show whilst in South Africa.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, as it's it's a pretty significant development in the Benoit tragedy:

Chris Benoit had brain damage

Now, I must caution that I do not think this is the last word on the subject, and that you can say this means Benoit is not responsible for his actions. But I think this DOES at least say that simply labeling him a heartless monster is completely wrong, based on some cursory research I've done today there is very sound basis to think that the damage would absolutely have put Benoit in the frame of mind to believe his actions had some justification, but I don't believe it goes so far as to say he isn't responsible, or didn't make the decision, I'm saying that it seems apparent this was a man with impaired cognitive abilities, and that has to be considered in this whole sorry mess.

This also points out why the Wellness Policy should include psychological and neurological testing.

At 9/5/07 07:03 PM, pepeatumi wrote: It wouldn't surprise me if they drop it to Cade and Murdoch in another show whilst in South Africa.

If WWE dosen't acknowledge the switch, absolutely. The policy in any company is usually "if we didn't televise it, it didn't happen" and I don't blame them because at this point, the money is made off the TV and the PPV, and not so much the non-televised shows, but I DO think it couldn't hurt every once in awhile to have title changes like this on your non-televised shows to send a message that you care about the audience going to these shows. Not to mention, why not send in a camera crew if you know in advance you'll do a title change and maybe show a clip on the television show, and hang onto the match to be done as an extra on a DVD? Wouldn't that make sense? ECW used to do similar things with their shows...yes, I know they had a slightly different business model, but the practice is sound I think.

At 9/5/07 07:11 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Chris Benoit had brain damage

So could that kind of brain damage explain the suicides of people like Mike Awesome too? Hopefully the wrestling promotions can implement programs to monitor this kind of thing.
Also, how much damage do you think Benoit's diving headbutt did?

At 9/5/07 07:44 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:

So could that kind of brain damage explain the suicides of people like Mike Awesome too?

I really don't know, like they said, you can't know unless a post-mortem scan is done on the individual's brain.

Also, how much damage do you think Benoit's diving headbutt did?

Probably a decent amount, but any concussion he had would have contributed. That's the thing, if you ask most people about what kind of wrestler he was, they'd say he was a submission based technical guy, but during his tenure in WWE especially, he was doing a lot of high impact ladder matches and crap. I mean, just go watch the Ladder Match DVD to see how many sick bumps and shots to the head he took in those matches. He had damage throughout his brain, all over.

Benoit made the right choice, if he didn't kill the kid he'd end up in some foster home, hes foster parents would get tired of dealing with him then just end up poisoning his food with arsenic. He saved him a lot of time.

At 9/5/07 07:03 PM, pepeatumi wrote: So.... Cade and Murdock dropped the tag titles to London and Kendrick in South Africa.

It has been confirmed that London and Kendrick will challenge Cade and Murdock's tag team titles at Unforgiven, so that it is a given that the redneck cowboys will head into Unforgiven as the tag team champions.