I've heard that Matt and Jeff are definitely in the good graces of management right now and are in line for more singles pushes. I caution WWE about brand splitting them again, because of the draft is going to matter at all, then WWE needs to I think at a bare minimum make sure that drafted talents stay exclusive to their brands for at least 3-6 months, really, I think all the crossing over is killing the brand split and is going to hurt the specialness of Mania which has traditionally been the show where we see more crossbrand exposure and interbrand bouts.

One of the reasons they're having a hard time exciting me about the draft (and I think some of you are feeling the same) is because ever since even before Mania we're seeing guys jumping brands and appearing on shows they aren't supposed to be on just because they have a buddy over there or whatever. It makes the brand extension seem weak when they don't bother to try and create any sort of explanation for say...why Matt Hardy would have been allowed to team with Jeff, win the World Tag titles, and Teddy Long wouldn't then try to get them on SD! because it'd help his ratings.

The invisible walls need to go back up, and only be broken down or bent in special circumstances or there's just no point to doing what they're doing right now.

Going back to the point I was going to originally make here, hopefully they plan to give Cade and Murdoch a good run with the belts, and treat them as serious champs, if they had them beat the Hardyz just they could split them, then it's a tremendous waste of an oppurtunity, the fans believe in the Hardyz, and Cade and Murdoch have some heat on them now for beating them, if they parlay that into a strong run for Cade and Murdoch with strong opponents, those guys may finally have a chance to make something of themselves, and help resuscitate the tag division on RAW.

FUCK, Vince is on Smackdown. This is only acceptable if it leads to Vince getting the fuck off my TV for good.

At 6/8/07 05:23 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: FUCK, Vince is on Smackdown. This is only acceptable if it leads to Vince getting the fuck off my TV for good.

Whoop-de-fuckin doo! So we get the Vince Mcmahon trifecta this week. Taking the spotlight away from the wrestlers in all three shows. But what the hell do I know? Vince knows what we want, and we want to see even more of him.

Also, Vengeance is shaping up to be a thrilling PPV. Edge will defend his title against the one, the only BATISTA. That's right, Vince thought "Who honestly wants to see Edge face fresh competition, why don't we just do the same match we've had at the past 2 PPVs?"
I also expect Khali to challenge Cena again, and for Vince to cash in his rematch clause. And MVP to defend his title against Benoit. And Randy Orton to concuss another superstar to death, or something.

At 6/8/07 05:58 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Also, Vengeance is shaping up to be a thrilling PPV. Edge will defend his title against the one, the only BATISTA. That's right, Vince thought "Who honestly wants to see Edge face fresh competition, why don't we just do the same match we've had at the past 2 PPVs?"
I also expect Khali to challenge Cena again, and for Vince to cash in his rematch clause. And MVP to defend his title against Benoit. And Randy Orton to concuss another superstar to death, or something.

Wait? So Batista has a rematch-rematch-rematch-rematch-rematch clause? I'm guessing this is mostly due to the lack of face challengers in SD. Of course that wouldn't be a problem if the WWE actually gave a shit about developing their talent into the aforemention face challengers.

At 6/8/07 06:08 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Wait? So Batista has a rematch-rematch-rematch-rematch-rematch clause? I'm guessing this is mostly due to the lack of face challengers in SD. Of course that wouldn't be a problem if the WWE actually gave a shit about developing their talent into the aforemention face challengers.

The match was made by Vince, so I'm guessing he doesn't need a rematch clause if Vince is making the decision. Hopefully the match isn't actually going to take place, and is just something to further the storyline of Vince going crazy.

Which will hopefully get Vince off my FUCKING TV.

yo im so joining in man.

Paging MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISTER!!!! KENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEDY!!!!....Kenned y!

Because that's what it's going to take to dislodge Batista from the main event, Batista is at the top until Kennedy gets back and then he will most likely fight Edge at SS (the PPV with the Jackass cast in a match!!! Christ that scares me...). The PPV's are just spinning their wheels now and it's pathetic, this should be the time of year WWE is taking advantage of people being home, and creating their own "summer blockbusters" since they like to say they make movies.

I really hope the draft does something to make the shows better, and after we can get back to trying to really build some things up.

At 6/8/07 07:21 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Because that's what it's going to take to dislodge Batista from the main event, Batista is at the top until Kennedy gets back and then he will most likely fight Edge at SS (the PPV with the Jackass cast in a match!!! Christ that scares me...). The PPV's are just spinning their wheels now and it's pathetic, this should be the time of year WWE is taking advantage of people being home, and creating their own "summer blockbusters" since they like to say they make movies.

Assuming that Kennedy remains on the SD roster after the draft. He's got a redy-made feud with Edge already, but its the WWE and they probably forgot all about that already. It wouldn't surprise me if Kennedy goes to RAW and ends up as Cena's (Because he's not leaving RAW) next vict.... challenger.

And not only are the dudes from Jackass supposed to have a match at SS, they're supposed to take part in one of the show's most high-profile matches.

And by the way, you posted the same thing twice a while back. Don't make me call a mod in here unless you want to get banned!

So how are the cast from Jackass getting involved. After what Stevo and Chris did on Raw, they shouldn't be allowed any where near a ring.

Doesn't anyone in WWE remember that having celebrities in matches just turn out crappy? Look at K-fed for an example. Want to go further back? Try Rodman and Jay Leno in WCW... Or worse yet, David Arquet (spelling?) I can see Steve-o doing ok in the ring, but other than that... not real interested.

Has anyone declined as much in the span of a year than Dave Batista? Once again we had to see another lackluster effort by Batista in a match that should not have been the ME, that honor should have reserved for the awesomeness that was Benoit vs Edge.

But who the hell wants to see THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION in the main event, when we can see a guy who can literally bore you to death?

I'm going to say this.... Batista should go to RAW and feud with Cena. Use what little star power Batista has left and try to make some money off of him, because in one year Batista is going to be doing nothing, and he's going to be worth even less.

At 6/8/07 07:30 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Assuming that Kennedy remains on the SD roster after the draft. He's got a redy-made feud with Edge already, but its the WWE and they probably forgot all about that already. It wouldn't surprise me if Kennedy goes to RAW and ends up as Cena's (Because he's not leaving RAW) next vict.... challenger.

From what I was told, if your injured, your not eligible to be drafted. The point of the draft is to move healthy bodies among the three brands immediately, as WWE is definitely not enjoying this latest bite from the injury bug. So I see Kennedy staying put, though these are the same geniuses that put a poll on their website asking which brand RVD would end up on when they specifically said on Tuesday he isn't eligible.

Also, I don't fear the mods!!! ;)

At 6/8/07 07:21 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Paging MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISTER!!!! KENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEDY!!!!....Kenned y!

Agreed. How many more chances will Batista get before he finally wins the title from Edge? The longer the feud goes, the more I feel that Batista will win back "his" title just like he did in the feud with King Booker. Bring Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiser Kennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnedy back and have him feud with Edge, damn it!

At 6/9/07 03:23 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: From what I was told, if your injured, your not eligible to be drafted. The point of the draft is to move healthy bodies among the three brands immediately, as WWE is definitely not enjoying this latest bite from the injury bug.

Not true...if I am not mistaken, Orton was "injured" a few years ago when he was a RAW superstar, then he was drafted to SD!. Nobody is "safe" when it comes to the draft.

Edge and Kennedy could definatly put on some great matches given the chance. Kennedy will probably have to go through Batista to get a shot since Batista has been in the title hunt for much longer.

At 6/9/07 05:38 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Not true...if I am not mistaken, Orton was "injured" a few years ago when he was a RAW superstar, then he was drafted to SD!. Nobody is "safe" when it comes to the draft.

They say that, but I've heard internally they have no interest in moving people who wouldn't immediately be working on their new show. So I'd look for only healthy active guys to be drafted this time around. Tommy had an interesting column on names he thinks could be helped by going to ECW, and people who could be helped by leaving, a good read, and I agree with almost all of his choices, except Victoria really. Just because I think you should have all the women wrestlers where the women's belt is, and the cruisers where the cruiser belt is.

At 6/10/07 01:04 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: They say that, but I've heard internally they have no interest in moving people who wouldn't immediately be working on their new show. So I'd look for only healthy active guys to be drafted this time around. Tommy had an interesting column on names he thinks could be helped by going to ECW, and people who could be helped by leaving, a good read, and I agree with almost all of his choices, except Victoria really. Just because I think you should have all the women wrestlers where the women's belt is, and the cruisers where the cruiser belt is.

True.. I agree with what he said about Trinity, she can wrestle so why not put her on RAW where she can actually wrestle? I'm guessing its because she's not you prototypical diva (Blonde,untalented with big boobs). As for Victoria, I kind of agree with Dreamer because I liked seeing the Stevie-Victoria combination a while back, and more Stevie is good!

And speaking of Richards, he's mostly a jobber, but he still puts on good matches, so why isn't this guy part of the mid-card on either RAW or SD? Even now he has no trouble getting the crowd behind him (or against him), and he does that despite getting zero time on the mic!

If Victoria stays on RAW, that's ok. But I'd like to see Richards somewhere else and see him actually getting used. He's one of the few guys that can sit a home for months, get up and have a good match with anyone (Jamie Noble/Gibson is another one of those guys).

At 6/9/07 11:48 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Edge and Kennedy could definatly put on some great matches given the chance. Kennedy will probably have to go through Batista to get a shot since Batista has been in the title hunt for much longer.

Dear lord, please help Edge to retain in the "do or die" match. I have seen Dave Batista in the ME for too long. God bless Edge.

At 6/10/07 01:11 AM, pepeatumi wrote:

And speaking of Richards, he's mostly a jobber, but he still puts on good matches, so why isn't this guy part of the mid-card on either RAW or SD? Even now he has no trouble getting the crowd behind him (or against him), and he does that despite getting zero time on the mic!

I've been saying that for years. The WWE just doesn't seem to know or have any real clue on how to effectivly use him. His work with Victoria was really good when they gave him a chance so it would be nice to see that duo together again.

At 6/10/07 01:11 AM, pepeatumi wrote: And speaking of Richards, he's mostly a jobber, but he still puts on good matches, so why isn't this guy part of the mid-card on either RAW or SD? Even now he has no trouble getting the crowd behind him (or against him), and he does that despite getting zero time on the mic!

Wasn't it the same with Nov- Simon Dean? He was good, but I don't think I ever saw him given the freedom to do well on TV.

The weird thing with Stevie is that when WWE is telling guys who to watch and emulate, Stevie is one of the first names they bring up...yet they don't do anything with him. Stevie is probably never gonna be a main eventer, but he's a solid mid-card guy. A shame WWE dosen't seem to agree.

Ok, the setup for tommorow is very intriguing, we're going to open with WWE Champ John Cena vs. World Champion Edge, and then the bracketing of matches throughout the night will be "interbrand" with the winner earning a draft pick for his show. That's an interesting concept and could go a long way towards elevating some new talents and storylines, though it probably dosen't bode well for ECW as they have guys who are pretty exclusively treated as jobbers.

At 6/10/07 11:57 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Wasn't it the same with Nov- Simon Dean? He was good, but I don't think I ever saw him given the freedom to do well on TV.

Yea, when Chris Masters debuted a couple of years ago, he broke Richards' nose. Poor Richards. I guess that he is going to be a jobber for life.

Who would do the picking for ECW? Who is in charge of that brand now anyway?

There's going to be inter-brand matches, and the winner of each match will win a pick for their respective brand.

The show will start off with.... John Cena vs Edge (A match that has never been seen before!)

My guess, either Cena wins (gasp!) and RAW gets the first pick, or Batista somehow osts Cena the match, SD gets the first pick, and Batista ends up going to RAW and feuding with Cena.

At 6/11/07 10:20 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Who would do the picking for ECW? Who is in charge of that brand now anyway?

You can hardly tell that Coach is supposed to run Raw. Teddy Long is the only brand leader who gets any air time. And that's only cause he's 'banging' Kristal.

At 6/11/07 11:42 AM, pepeatumi wrote: My guess, either Cena wins (gasp!) and RAW gets the first pick, or Batista somehow osts Cena the match, SD gets the first pick, and Batista ends up going to RAW and feuding with Cena.

That would bring tears to my eyes to see that, Batista can get his good guy act back instead of being the weak ass sissy girl. Lets just hope they don't make cena "over come all odds".

This is actually a good idea WWE has on their hands, maybe Vince will get pile drived tonight and break his neck so we don't have to put up with him for a couple months. Now that's a night worthy of watching.

Thats one way to write Vince out of tv for a while. Not sure how they intend to explain this.

Also they said that another draft will take place so there will be more spots switched.
I wonder who will be the next ECW champ. Since I don't get that channel I really don't know, so who was closest to being at the main event level? Can't be snitski since he got moved to Raw. Could this be CM Punk's chance to capture the gold?

That was insanely well executed. They made it almost believable that he is actually dead. We'll see if they just eliminate him completely and let someone else take over.

Anyone else feel a little sad when vince was in the ring?