At 5/27/07 10:58 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Not from a real money making standpoint. Sure at first having Orton be a jobber to HHH seems fine, but if they do that long enough, the time and money spent on getting Orton to main event status will be flushed down the tubes. As much as some of you dislike orton, he does bring something to the table, and if he is beaten so much that the crowd views him as a jobber then his use is gone.

But with all the bad money-making decisions the WWE makes, messing up Orton's status would be the most forgiveable for me :)

Source: 411mania.com

The 6/11 three hour edition of RAW will feature the 2007 WWE Draft Lottery. This will be the first WWE Draft Lottery since June of 2005.

What are your thoughts on this?

Why do they need a draft lottery when Raw, ECW and SD guys are featured on other brands all the time? Just look at Lashly. If they didn't have the ECW belt in there I would swear he was a Raw wrestler. Matt Hardy is pulling double duty appearing on both Raw and SD each week. But I guess switching it up a bit could freshen things up some. Maybe have some new fueds start, that kind of thing.

Oh God no!!

Tomorrow (or later Today if you will) The Great Khali, Umaga and Shane Mcmahon will team up to face the team of... John Cena and Bobby Lashley.

Kill me. please!

At 5/28/07 12:37 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Why do they need a draft lottery when Raw, ECW and SD guys are featured on other brands all the time? Just look at Lashly. If they didn't have the ECW belt in there I would swear he was a Raw wrestler. Matt Hardy is pulling double duty appearing on both Raw and SD each week. But I guess switching it up a bit could freshen things up some. Maybe have some new fueds start, that kind of thing.

I think the WWE lost it's religion, that's why I do not even think twice on not buying a pay per view, it's just not worth it anymore. Maybe having all brands on Wrestlemania, Summerslam, the main couple of pay per views, but having all brands on judgement day, backlash and aparently one night stand, just not worth it. One Night Stand is suppose to be about ECW, not Vince, the asshole.

The Draft Lottery smells like an attempt by WWE to say "see? The brands ARE still seperate!!" but all the cross promotion kills that idea...unless this starts some new feuds or pairs down some of their titles, I don't see the point.

Randy Orton is just a constant pain in the ass right now, and he can't draw a dime, his promos stink, and his work is uninspired unless he's in trouble. I know people want him to matter because of those high profile wins over Mic Foley when that mattered, but it's time to just job this kid out and cut him loose, he's not a threat to them elsewhere, and he costs them more money then he's worth to have him on the payroll.

At 5/28/07 01:12 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Randy Orton is just a constant pain in the ass right now, and he can't draw a dime, his promos stink, and his work is uninspired unless he's in trouble. I know people want him to matter because of those high profile wins over Mic Foley when that mattered, but it's time to just job this kid out and cut him loose, he's not a threat to them elsewhere, and he costs them more money then he's worth to have him on the payroll.

I see the brand lottery, as a way for the WWE to avoid oushin younger guys (Again!) and just filling the holes on RAW/SD/ECW with veterans.

As for Orton, I could not agree more. I actually sent a e-mail to the guys from PWinsider and I got a respone (Woot!) and they pretty much said the same thing.... Other than Orton being a third-generation superstar, there's no reason why he's still with the company.

He's fairly generic in the ring (relies way to much on chinlocks) sicks on the mic, and as you guys might have heard, he has a tendency to get in trouble. Orton, or anyone else for that matter just isn't worth that much.

But the thing is, he's still got a large fanbase, and that's why he keeps popping up in the ME scene (that and the inuries) hell, I've said the same thing about Orton on different wrestling forums, and I get bombarded by idiotic WWE marks who truly believe that Randy is the Next Rock.... He's not, he's the first Randy Orton, and he sucks.

At 5/27/07 10:16 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:

At 5/27/07 10:11 AM, pepeatumi wrote: Word is that HHH will feud with Orton upon his return and you know what that means.... Jobbing time for Mr. Orton.

At least something good will come of HHH's backstage politics.

But in that case? Who will feud with Cena. Do not tell me that they are going to continue his feud with Khali after SNME? I am fed up with Cena being the champ now...

Who do you think should be moved around? I'm guessing that all three brands are part of this, so CM Punk could end up on Raw, and so on. Who should be where?

I think they'll probably move Matt Hardy to put both Tag Champs on the same brand. Or move Jeff and Deuce and Domino to totally mix up the division.
Then I figure they'll move some Main Eventers from Smackdown and ECW to give Cena some competition.
They'll probably break up a tag team or two, leaving them dead in the water.
I figure Carlito will probably get traded too.

At 5/28/07 07:06 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Who do you think should be moved around? I'm guessing that all three brands are part of this, so CM Punk could end up on Raw, and so on. Who should be where?

Flair has said he wants to finish his career on SD... He could finish his feud with Carlito and go there after. FInlay would be a nice fit in RAW to help out certain people in the ring (JOHN CENA), Punk could go to SD, I dont' what is, but Punk just fits with Smackdown, and I wouldn't mind seeing MVP vs Punk for the US Title.

At some point I'd like to see the tag titles unfiied, and this could be a way to do it. I'd like to see Benoit go to ECW as well as... The Cruiserweights, but only they're used right and are actually pushed... even if it is on ECW.

Sorry for the double post... This next bit of news is from the Wrestling Observer, so take it for what its worth...

Although not confirmed by WWE on WWE.com, Darren "Droz" Drozdov has been released.

Drozdov competed for WWE from 1998 - 1999 teaming with The Road Warriors and Prince Albert aka A-Train over the course of his career, when an injury during a match with D'lo Brown ended his career and he became a quadriplegic. Drozdov remained a WWE ever since, appearing and the now-defunct "Byte This" program, giving PPV predictions, and appearing on a few WWE DVD productions.

Drozdov's release comes as a big shock to many, as he was guaranteed a "job for life" by Vince McMahon after his accident. Like with all of the other releases lately, Stephanie McMahon is the mastermind behind this one, as she felt that without "Byte This", WWE has little to no use for Drozdov and she feels like Droz has been given more than enough money over the course of 8 years that he should be set for life.

From 1999 - 2005, Drozdov was married to Melanie Vega, a seamstress for WWE. The couple divorced in 2005 and Droz currently has another girlfriend and Vega is in a relationship with WWE superstar Shannon Moore.

WOW Stephanie. Even for you that's an all time low.

I think the Observer is full of shit again. From everything I've heard Droz was given a job for life as much for the obvious reason of not wanting to be sued, as well as Vince just feeling really bad and responsible for the thing (say what you will, but the guy DOES have a heart). I don't buy it until PWInsider says it, because it seems to me just about every other wrestling site on the net has had their sources dry up and they just make shit up, or steal from PWInsider.

I think that one name confirmed to move will be Shitsky, I've heard for awhile now they plan to move him to RAW so he can then feud with Cena who they seem to want to push like Hulk Hogan now in terms of they're just going to feed him monsters to beat now. This would inevitably lead to him doing that big ol' job for the H for the belt.

Beyond that, I just hope WWE is ready to realize they need to move some of the veterans and undercard talents with name value off of RAW and onto the other two brands. These lotteries in the past have tended to mean that RAW gets the best from the other brand(s) and with all the injuries and problems WWE is having with the other two not doing great in the ratings, and the idea of pushing the all brand PPV's, they need to break the roster up more evenly or there's just no point in moving anybody at all.

At 5/28/07 01:55 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I think the Observer is full of shit again. From everything I've heard Droz was given a job for life as much for the obvious reason of not wanting to be sued, as well as Vince just feeling really bad and responsible for the thing (say what you will, but the guy DOES have a heart). I don't buy it until PWInsider says it, because it seems to me just about every other wrestling site on the net has had their sources dry up and they just make shit up, or steal from PWInsider.

That's why I said, take it for what its worth.... And I agree about Vince having a heart (somewhere in there) but I wouldn't put it past Stephanie to do something like that. This is one report that I really hope isn't true.

At 5/28/07 02:07 PM, pepeatumi wrote: That's why I said, take it for what its worth.... And I agree about Vince having a heart (somewhere in there) but I wouldn't put it past Stephanie to do something like that. This is one report that I really hope isn't true.

I think something like that PWInsider would have almost immediately, they usually are right on top of stuff like this because people are ALWAYS calling them up and what not when something major like that happens, or they're calling them.

Can I join the club here is somthing,at the main event Khali vs Cena for the title falls count anywhere match and Vince McMahn vs Lashley in a street fight.

At 5/28/07 11:29 PM, periodPops wrote: I liked how you heard men chant "cena sucks", then you heard little kids chant "lets go cena" also it looked like some people tryed to get them to throw cenas shirt back.

That's because all the Cena fans are kids and women, the rest just hate him.

And this happened after the show...

Post RAW, Cena and Lashley stand in the middle of the ring and stair each other down. Cena pokes Lashley, but cooler heads prevail and they shake hands. But Lashley turns on Cena, punches him out, and gives him the dominator to a big pop and celebrates with the WWE title like he is going to go for it next.

FUCK!!!

At 5/29/07 12:50 AM, periodPops wrote: I remember seeing something that said WWE wants Cena and Lashely to be the next Rock and Stone Cold, thats an obvious stone cold move. Anyway how did you guys like that Diva memorial day battle royal?

Mickie James ass, DAMN!!! And on that note, Krystal's ass.... DAMN!

It was meant to be eye candy and it was just that, so I'll give it a pass this time.

At 5/29/07 04:52 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: and a complete freakshow of an 8-Man Tag Match, it's Kane, Goldust, Kamala and Shannon Moore vs. Umaga, Viscera, Kevin Thorn and DOINK THE FUCKING CLOWN.

God help us. At least the 8-Man Tag has a chance to be decent.

It was a 6-man tag match.... Eugene (Dressed as Superman) Kane and Doink vs Viscera, Umaga and Kevin Thorn... And Vince really wonders why his product has become so bad?

I ended up missing all of Raw. What happened and was it any good?

This is from wwe.com.....I dont get it.

"Lastly, it has been announced that WWE Champion John Cena will put his title on the line at Saturday Night’s Main Event against The Great Khali in a Special Challenge Match."

put his title on the line

At 5/24/07 01:14 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Megagold, I seriously doubt Vince misses your 100 bucks in terms of what Cena draws, not to mention you instantly lose points with me for thinking that boo boo facing fuck Batista is better then Edge, the man is a jerk, and if he was really so great, the company would have put the belt back on him rather then moving Edge and giving it to him.

Hm, I guess you have never watched Royal Rumble 2005, you should watch it before you say a word about anything. Also have you noticed that Cena still gets booed every night, record a taping and watch it over a couple times, notice those sounds of anger from the croud, that's because it is anger, even if he tries being a face, he still has no idea to wrestle, just like watching Bobby Lashley, my god.

Anyways what happened to the Show, I haven't seen him on wrestling for a while, did he get layed off?

At 5/29/07 08:54 PM, IND658 wrote: This is from wwe.com.....I dont get it.

"Lastly, it has been announced that WWE Champion John Cena will put his title on the line at Saturday Night’s Main Event against The Great Khali in a Special Challenge Match."

put his title on the line

Must have been a mistake... As far as I know, the title wasn't on the line. This wouldn't be the first time that WWE.com messes up.

And MegaGold, Big Show retired in December.

Sorry for the double post...

A new match has been added to the One Night Stand card... And to quote Mike Johnson from PWinsider... Hey, it actually features some ECW wrestlers!

Added to the WWE One Night Stand PPV this weekend is a six man tag Tables Match featuring CM Punk & The Sandman & Tommy Dreamer vs. The New Breed of Elijah Burke & Marcus Cor Von & Matt Striker.

At 5/29/07 09:41 PM, pepeatumi wrote:

And MegaGold, Big Show retired in December.

Wow, I'm far behind, work has gotten in the way of my wrestling time, why did he quit?

This is a catchup post covering the posts I'd missed over the last week or 3. My SD post'll be afetrwards.

EDIT: Wait - it might take one more, smaller post before I'm caught up; sorry for the inconvinience. >_<

Heartbreak & pepe had predicted EXACTLY how Taker dropped the title - Heartbreak said Mark Henry would beat up Taker, and pepe said that Edge would cash in; I guess it's just too fucking predictable. o_O

Glad that Kurt Angle won another WC - doesn't matter which brand, as long as he wins. :P
At 5/7/07 12:22 PM, pepeatumi wrote (directed at Outlaw88):

Triple Post FTL!!!

Whoa, dude.

At 5/8/07 01:47 AM, YoinK wrote: uh.... i'd rather have Mr. Kennedy with the money in the bank brief case than edge... I can't stand edge....

Who can? But atm, we're stuck. Maybe they'll give Batista it 'back' during ONS.

At 5/8/07 05:14 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Batista is in his early 40's, how much longer does he really have?

o_O Rly? I didn't realize he was that old already. But look at it this way: Look at how old Ric Flair is, yet he's still there. Batista's better built than he is, so I think he has quite a while still left in him before he retires.

At 5/8/07 05:42 PM, JohnCena423 wrote: HBK injured

The link just led to a 'not found' page; I guess they took it down. So, wait - does that mean that HBK's really injured?

At 5/9/07 08:51 PM, pepeatumi wrote: This is wonderful...

According to WWE.com: After an extensive MRI at the Birmingham, Ala. offices of Dr. James Andrews, WWE's Dr. Ferdinand Rios now reports that the SmackDown Superstar's triceps tendon "was not torn from the bone as originally reported and will not require surgery."

Kennedy still has bad swelling and with the severity of Kennedy's hematoma, he is still looking to be out for 6-8 weeks.

So in other words, the WWE jumped the gun and took the MITB from Kennedy without knowing for certain how much time he was going to miss.... In all likelihood he'll feud with Edge upon his return.

Good to hear.......well, not about the internal bleeding & swelling, but about him coming back sooner than expected; still, that's a rather large kick to the groin for Ken to have lost the MitB prematurely like that. Oh, well; at least a Kennedy/Edge feud sounds promising.

At 5/10/07 04:54 AM, AnzRage wrote: mr. kenedy sucks though. brock lesnar and kurt angle made smack down good.

We won't probably get back Kurt, but Lesnar, on the other hand....

Last I heard, he was in Japan wrestling over there under some ridiculous name.

At 5/10/07 08:58 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: - The Hillbillies who will be debuting next week on SmackDown are Ray Gordy and Drew Hankinson, who played the fake Kane in WWE last year.

I was wondering who was behind that. Good for the TT division.

WWE sure does love their redneck/hillbilly gimmicks don't they?

Looks that way.

At 5/10/07 10:38 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:

At 5/10/07 08:58 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: - Last night at the SmackDown tapings, Eddie Colon received a dark match tryout against Shannon Moore. He was said to look good in the ring but was booed heavily by the crowd.

anybody know who this guy is? I sure don't.

Eddie Colon is Carlito's brother. Might be good to have them as a heel tag team if he gets to Raw.

Cool. :P Wonder if he likes playing the heel as much as Carlito does.

At 5/10/07 11:22 AM, skreetch wrote: Well Carlito spat at Eddie in Carribean Wrestling once

Geez, just HOW LONG has he had that gimmick?

At 5/11/07 11:31 PM, LordKooler wrote: Hi guys. WWE just recently released 2 Cold Scorpio and Rob Conway from their contracts. What are your thoughts on this?

Man, I never even got to see 2 Cold wrestle. :\

At 5/13/07 09:21 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Fairly soon Rey Mysterio will be back in action. Probably sometime in June or July.

YAY!

Now my mom'll stop asking where he went....... >_<

Of course I look forward to him being back, too. :P

At 5/14/07 12:45 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 5/13/07 10:19 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Good to see Roadkill being used... Maybe this means we'll be seeing him on TV in the near future.

It just won't be right with him no longer being Amish...*sniffle*

o_O

Oh, snap......

At 5/15/07 05:05 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Vito has been released.
I can't say this surprises me. I don't think that any gimmick he would have been given after his cross-dressing period would have been taken seriously after that monstrosity.

Funny, I had just been thinking about that. Honestly, w/o a gimmick involving a mask, I think that whole thing has completely killed his career, as well as any future chance at returning to the WWE. He's done.

Why he EVER went along with that idea is anyone's guess.

At 5/15/07 09:17 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Former ECW World champion Sabu is gone from World Wrestling Entertainment, according to several sources. Sabu arrived hours late for tonight's scheduled Smackdown/ECW taping in Baltimore, Maryland and didn't even have his ring gear with him. I am told he was sent home from the taping and has been/will be released by the company.

To be honest, I'm surprised it took this long for Sabu to get released.

.........and off to TNA he goes.

However, if he pulls the same crap over there, he'll get the shaft from there, too.

At 5/17/07 02:01 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: You know who I'd like to see, especially now with HHH, Taker, and Kennedy out with injuries, RVD leaving, and the always shakey situation with Orton? Jericho. He would do the WWE wonders if he made a comeback now. That would be somethign I'd really want to see, and it would be great to have him back in the mix.

'Don't you wish you were me?
The king of all you see?'

That'd be a good idea; if he went to SD, Fozzy would give Jillian another band to try & torture..... >_<

Just kidding.

At 5/17/07 11:23 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: from wrestlezone.com:

Bryan Alvarez of f4wonline.com is reporting that Shane Helms has a major neck injury, perhaps a break.

He apparently saw Dr. Lloyd Youngblood today and may be the next person in line for fusion surgery.

Damn. I hope this is just a rumor, and that Helms is ok.

Shane Helms=Gregory Helms, right? Just double-checking. In which case, sorry to hear that. He'll DEFINITELY be out for a while.

At 5/18/07 05:11 PM, JohnCena423 wrote: Ariel scotty 2 Hotty And Nick Mitchell Released

........and there goes Scotty.
........and avie's crush. (Were those FANGS?)
........and......wait, like I give a rat's ass about a SS member.

TNA just got another 3 shoe-ins.

At 5/18/07 10:21 PM, periodPops wrote: Source: WrestleZone

As reported earlier, Rob Conway, Too Cold Scorpio and Vito were recently released from their WWE contracts. These are considered part of Stephanie McMahon's house cleaning moves to show that she's putting her stamp on the roster now that John Laurinaitis reports to her, not Vince McMahon, on a daily basis. She has a much greater influence on roster moves than before, as unless it's someone on the top third of the card, Vince is probably going to rubberstamp any roster decision she makes. That wasn't the case with John Laurinaitis' recommendations to Vince in the past.

hold me guys

And hold me while you're at it. Fuck. We're currently doomed. >_<

At 5/18/07 10:46 PM, LinkSilvermane wrote: I'd like to formally join the club, since I simply LOVE watching a good wrestling match.

Sadly, since I live in Italy, I've had to cut back on the amount of WWE I usually watch...'cause the fellows that comment on the match over here are complete morons. They're NOTHING like the american dudes that scream and yell and make the whole thing about 10 times more entertaining :D

Welcome. Sorry you got stuck w/ idiots, but they can't be any worse than having to listen to JBL's crap constantly.....

Glad you're not a noob. :P

At 5/29/07 09:56 PM, MegaGold wrote: Wow, I'm far behind, work has gotten in the way of my wrestling time, why did he quit?

His contract expired in February, and he became very injured, and was angry with WWE for not really giving him time off to heal or anything. There's quite a lot of unhappy folks working for WWE these days.

I have seen the '05 rumble, and just because a guy was good 2 years ago dosen't mean he's any good now. Batista's work has slumped bad since his injury, and it's pretty obvious by comments he's made publicly (and those in the back people have reported) is that Batista is a man who has a very high opinion of himself, and it just isn't justified in terms of his work. Triple H made him, and Taker carried him for a couple bouts, but WWE and most of the fanbase have gotten wise to the limits of this guy...plus, he's in his early 40's at this point, so they know they can't really use him long term.

At 5/29/07 09:56 PM, MegaGold wrote:
Wow, I'm far behind, work has gotten in the way of my wrestling time, why did he quit?

From what I have gathered, he was getting old and was hurting all the time. I think he had the same disorder Andre had, but was able to get an operation to slow down the rate of growth. To put it simply, he was just hurting all the time and couldn't continue and still give the audience a show.

I'm looking forward to a Kennedy/Edge fued once Ken comes back. That should produce some damn good matches. Unless of course they decide to move Kennedy to Raw. He would fit in there, but really SD kinda needs him more right now.

At 5/30/07 12:24 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I have seen the '05 rumble, and just because a guy was good 2 years ago dosen't mean he's any good now.

The only reason why he was passable 2 years ago was because of HHH. How much has Hunter saved his pathetic ass in the ring and made the matches watchable? If I am not mistaken, 'tista has not had any good match ever since his feud with HHH was over. One last sentence, Batista is pathetic in the ring if he is left there all by himself.