He was always fun to watch. Austin was one of those type of performers who you never really got tired of watching, even when they did the stupidest things. Shame his career had to end the way it did. Had he not hurt his neck I don't doubt he would still be kicking some ass in the ring today.

At 1/31/07 11:42 AM, Seamonky wrote: If he did that, then Stone Cold won't be Stone Cold anymore. :( He was one of the best wrestlers back in the day. He use to kick major ass.

Yea.. so are you saying he should change his name?
StraightEdge Steve Austin?
So Sober Steve Austin?

Stone Cold Steve Austin will always be Stone Cold Steve Austin. His days of kicking ass in the WWF/WWE will always be remembered in my mind.

I doubt he'll come back to wrestle. He'll probably come back to TALK because most of the WWE "superstars" can't do that very well.

At 1/31/07 06:52 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Thats weird. All of a sudden Scotty 2 Hotty is on Raw. Wonder why they moved him?

Because SD! dosen't tape Velocity anymore, and they could use another job guy for Heat. Simple as that.

Mega, you're idea about Batista intrigues me, and if he continues to get negative reactions from the fans, WWE might as well use that and let the crowd hate him. But I think Batista would have to drop the belt first and you play it like he's just snapped after losing what he feels is his (Wrestlemania and Taker would be the PERFECT time and man to do the turn with).

At 2/1/07 12:02 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: He was always fun to watch. Austin was one of those type of performers who you never really got tired of watching, even when they did the stupidest things. Shame his career had to end the way it did. Had he not hurt his neck I don't doubt he would still be kicking some ass in the ring today.

I thought his insults were the best, but yeah if he didn't get injured he would still be wrestling, and he would hold a championship since WWE's needy for Championship material people. Stone Cold probably would have also won a couple more Royal Rumbles.

Regarding Matt Sydal, Ruckus and now Joey Ryan, people close to them say that WWE contacted them as they were interested in them once their WSX contracts expire. However, WWE sources are saying that all three individuals contacted WWE first. Also, they are under iron-clad contracts with WSX, not to mention that they are not under short-term deals. Apparently, Teddy Hart's deal is two years long, and thus it won't be expiring within the next few months, obviously. Due to all this, WWE isn't going to use them and they have no major interest in any of them.

There are plans on paper for WWE to bring in minis and dress them up as Vince McMahon and Donald Trump within the next few weeks.

Former Spirit Squad members Nick Nemeth and Mike Mondo are doing a tag team gimmick down in OVW as 'The Fraternity Brothers'.

Fraternity brothers? First we get grease people and now animal house.

I don't blame Vince for taking an interest in WSX guys, they did a 1.0 rating out of the blocks here, and that is definitely something to take notice of when the competing show for it usually does 1.4 1.5, and that this promotion markets at an audience Vince dosen't provide for. It's possible they'll crash and burn, but they might also soar and succeed, if I'm Vince, I want to take the oppurtunity away from them if I can. Looks like WSX was smart and protected themselves against that though.

Fraternity Brothers? Sounds like the old Varsity Club gimmick to me.

Buy Extreme Rules, especially at your local wal-mart where it's cheapest, it's a great DVD.

I may just do that.
Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Tony Mamaluke was released because Vince McMahon thought he was too small (he's 5-10 and 155 pounds). ECW writer Dave Lagana fought hard for Tony Mamaluke to keep his job, but in the end, McMahon won out. Lagana came up with an idea of pushing him as an underdog character similar to Sean Waltman as the 1-2-3 Kid, but McMahon didn't go for it and he was subsequently released.

That just pisses me off.

At 2/1/07 11:05 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: That just pisses me off.

More and more it's starting to seem to me like Dave Lagana is, if not a great writer who could save the show, at least a guy who honestly cares for it and the talents involved, and he's just getting screwed over by the hand of Mcmahon. Props to Lagana for showing the balls to keep fighting though, that's gotta be hazardous for him politically.

I have details on the recent firings of Sylvester Terkay, The Basham Brothers and The Gymini.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

WWE had high expectations for Sylvester Terkay because he was being groomed to feud with The Undertaker in a headline program on SmackDown. But after a few weeks, WWE didn't think his MMA style in the ring was getting over and they wanted him to do a pro wrestling oriented style. He was lost with the new style and was subsequently sent to WWECW. Also, Gerald Brisco, who loves amateur wrestlers, wanted to make him into a Kurt Angle-style wrestler. He too gave up on him in the end and that led to Terkay being dropped. Terkay's pro wrestling career seems to be over because he is now looking to sign a multi-fight contract with one of the MMA organizations.

There was talk of bringing The Bashams back to SmackDown once Danny's torn biceps injury healed, but that obviously never came to be. Apparently, the call-up of the more colorful, yet far less skilled Deuce & Domino act led to The Bashams being expendable.

Back in May, Todd Shane (Jesse Gymini) tore his pectoral muscle, which meant he was going to be out of action for a few months. His injury healed up by the fall season and WWE were planning to bring The Gymini back to SmackDown with Angel Williams as their manager. They worked a few tryout matches before SmackDown crowds back in November, but apparently, WWE officials didn't like what they saw because they probably would have otherwise been on television by December. Soon after, Angel was split from the group in Deep South Wrestling and of course, The Gymini were soon released. To show how little long-term planning was done in their departure, they were still the DSW Tag Team Champions at the time of their termination. They were stripped of their titles the very next day and never mentioned in DSW ever again.

I really disliked watching that Sylvester Turkey guy anyway...

I'd like to see Kane go to ECW and whoop Bobby Lashley and become the new ECW champion. KANE can fight, he can TALK, he can cause problems, he can show his power when he's angry...

WWE needs to stop getting wrestlers who are Big in size but can't FIGHT/Talk/wrestle.
I really hate that guy that says... "I LOVE DOUBLE DOUBLE E" every single show... promoting that guy is a waste of tv time.

So undertaker showed up on RAW to stair down John Cena... then he staired down Bobby Lashley... now he's going to Stair down Batista on smackdown I can assume. He'll probably face Batista.... HBK will probably face John Cena. And I hope someone who faces Bobby Lashley beats him. I'd rather see TEST as the champ than Lashley or Rob van dam.

The presence of Steve Austin will fill some voids... even if he doesn't wrestle.

Mcmahon should drop the whole Trump feud. There has to be some sort of business agreement between mcmahon and trump... But if Trump says that the people want to see VALUE. Then i'd like to see what Trump can do for WWE.

It would be so cool if Brock Lesnar came back to the WWE.... that guy was cool. He didn't talk really well but he also didn't sound like a retarded 12 year old who got locked up for 10 years.

I was kinda thinking fatal four way in Cena's case. Cena vs. HBK vs. Edge vs. Orton. Though it will probably be Cena/HBK and an Edge/Orton match. We've seen that before a few years ago when Edge was the one to end Ortons long IC title run.

At 2/1/07 11:22 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: More and more it's starting to seem to me like Dave Lagana is, if not a great writer who could save the show, at least a guy who honestly cares for it and the talents involved, and he's just getting screwed over by the hand of Mcmahon. Props to Lagana for showing the balls to keep fighting though, that's gotta be hazardous for him politically.

It doesn't seem that way, it is that way. Lagana was also the guy who wanted Punk's loss to Holly to have a screwjon ending, so Punk wouldn't lose clean. It seems Dave is a guy who actually knows how to book certain wrestlers, and of course that's something we can't have in Mcmahonland.

At 2/2/07 06:53 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I was kinda thinking fatal four way in Cena's case. Cena vs. HBK vs. Edge vs. Orton. Though it will probably be Cena/HBK and an Edge/Orton match. We've seen that before a few years ago when Edge was the one to end Ortons long IC title run.

That's the direction I think they'll go, two singles matches, although they already plan to have two singles world title bouts on the show, so I think having a four way here might really allow it to stand out, and create an interesting bout. I've heard the plan being discussed for Lashley is a Lashley/Holly bout, yep, that'll draw. Just shut this shit show down now or see if Sci-Fi will let you replace it with Heat, they can draw the same I think.

It's going to be interesting to see what WWE can put together for this show, it's definitely drawing from a fairly shallow pond in terms of guys that have talent but haven't been portrayed as mattering, and guys who blow that are pushed like their greatness personified.

At 2/2/07 01:32 PM, pepeatumi wrote: It doesn't seem that way, it is that way. Lagana was also the guy who wanted Punk's loss to Holly to have a screwjon ending, so Punk wouldn't lose clean. It seems Dave is a guy who actually knows how to book certain wrestlers, and of course that's something we can't have in Mcmahonland.

I'm not sure that's an example of knowing how to book a guy vs. having the common sense enough to know when a finish looks like total shit and is going to screw a guy who has potential to really draw money. Like I say, he seems to have some common sense, but could he save the show if Vince turned the booking over to him tommorow? Probably not, because he does still cave to the political pressure every now and again, but it's impossible not to if you want to keep your job, just ask Paul E.

Am I the only one not looking forward to WM? I mean word going around is to have Taker vs Cena, and Batista vs HBK as the two top matches... That doesn't exactly look like a WM card, and if the WWE pulls off the Khali vs Hogan match, then this could be one of the worst Wrestlemanias ever.

To be honest, I'm not even liking wrestling anymore (except for ROH) Smackdown is the closest thing to a wrestling show on tv, RAW is one big soap opera/Mcmahon circus, the crap on Tuesday nights, is well... The crap on Tuesday nights, and then there's TNA which will continue to suck as long as Vince Russo is working there.

There's no reason to be excited about being a wrestling fan anymore. If this WM turns out as bad as its looking right now, I'm just going to quit watching wrestling altogether... Its not worth spending money when none of the wrestling products are delivering any you know... Wrestling.

At 2/2/07 06:53 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I was kinda thinking fatal four way in Cena's case. Cena vs. HBK vs. Edge vs. Orton. Though it will probably be Cena/HBK and an Edge/Orton match. We've seen that before a few years ago when Edge was the one to end Ortons long IC title run.

I would perfer Orton turning back to his *heroic* babyface look and having a match against Cena also being a face, since they would both be people who *never quit*.

I remember back in 2005 that Cena got lucky at Vengeance to retain since Jericho was whooping both Cena and Christian's asses pretty bad.

At 2/2/07 06:23 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: That sucks about Stone Cold. I didn't hear about that... I'm still pretty new, and I gotta keep up with the site coz I don't have Foxtel. And I have wondered this for a while, is WWE real, or just an act?

Wrestling in general is a work. It is a pre-determined athletic performance in which guys know who is going to win and how, and then put together an athletic display to get to that point, however, just about everything hurts (to what degree depends on the match type, and the performers involved as some like to make their stuff more real then others do) and it takes a lot of skill and training to be really good at it and make money.

I'm with pep at this point that I really don't watch anything anymore, except on video and DVD, the business is getting so far away from good quality wrestling, and that's what I wanna see, I really can't stomach what's on TV now, and I just follow what's going on online these days until it's safe to go back and watch. We really need another promotion like an ECW to come along to really shake things up.

At 2/2/07 07:00 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: Thanks for clearing that up... but sometimes I wish it was like a real sport with real competition, and both trying for the win, that way fans can side with a superstar and know that he'll try his hardest, though, if its not pre-decided, people could REALLY get hurt.

If they're doing they're job, you can suspend your disbelief and believe that is exactly what the guys involved are trying to do, something that is getting lost more and more in the TNA/Mcmahon soap opera world of the business of now.

Wow, Finlay vs. Benoit to open up SD!? This I like!!!

At 2/2/07 08:07 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Wow, Finlay vs. Benoit to open up SD!? This I like!!!

And it was another great match by the two. Both of them have managed to get over just by being themselves, bad-asses who can flat out go in the ring... That's why they can't be anywhere near one of the big titles.

As for another promotion coming around and giving wrestling a much needed kick in the nuts... That's doubtful. I won't count TNA, because as long as Russo is around they'll never pose a threat to the WWE.

Only one other wrestling promotion that could have the same impact (no pun intended) as ECW is ROH. But they have a couple of problems. The first being their tv deal, or lack thereof. If they were to get a tv deal it would alienate a lot of the fans who like ROH because it keeps churning along without any national exposure. The other problem is if they get a tv deal they run the risk of having their talent pool raided (much like ECW) by both TNA and the WWE.

We've already see two top ROH competitors leave the company to go to one of the big two (Joe to TNA and Punk to the WWE) although Joe remained in ROH and still has a couple of matches before he's done with them.

ROH I've thought might be able to make an impact if they got more exposure, but at the same time, ECW proved that moxie, good talent, and a cutting edge or differentiating product only gets you so far. You have to be able to have big money backing in there, and I'm not entirely sure of the financial resources of Cary Silkin as it relates to that. ROH is doing great for a east coast indie, and is probably the top indy in the country, but without big sacks of cash, they may only ever get as far as being a place for talents to develop into being ready to go make a run in the two national companies.

I don't think either WWE or TNA as they are currently has any shot at really returning wrestling to a prominent or respected position. WWE is just going to do whatever they want because Vince is shooting every time he comes out saying "I tell you people what you want, and when you want it" because he believes he does. TNA likes to say they're alternative, but they're only alternative insofar as they have a roster you won't see on WWE shows, that's it. The creative and management structure, not to mention the upper crust of TNA talent, is oriented towards a sports entertainment style product, and with a guy like Vince Russo involved who steals good concepts and then morphs them into horrible ideas, and overly relies on bullshit gimmick bouts that show very very little wrestling in them.

So in short, at the national level, we're pretty well good and fucked and to stay involved you have to find smaller companies putting on good shows.

Completely off of topic about what you are all taking about, but whatever happened to Boxing matches in the WWE? I miss them, I remember the one at Wrestlemania 15, and the one with Mr. T and Roddy Piper. Why did the WWE just seemingly drop it all-together?

john cena trading punches with benoit, maybe?

At 2/3/07 12:09 AM, Slapdamonkeyaz wrote: Completely off of topic about what you are all taking about, but whatever happened to Boxing matches in the WWE? I miss them, I remember the one at Wrestlemania 15, and the one with Mr. T and Roddy Piper. Why did the WWE just seemingly drop it all-together?

Because they're either fairly sucktacular works (Piper/T) or disastrous shoots (Butterbean/Bart Gunn) so there's really nothing a wrestling company can gain from promoting boxing matches on their show.

At 2/2/07 06:57 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: There really need another promotion like an ECW to come along to really shake things up.

yea.. there is! Wrestling Society X on MTV that just started recently that is on Tuesday nights should compete with ECW. And that should be a good thing. WWE needs competition. Competition is what brought Triple H... Undertaker.. and Steve Austin to the WWF/WWE because they all started off at WCW.

At 2/3/07 12:30 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Because they're either fairly sucktacular works (Piper/T) or disastrous shoots (Butterbean/Bart Gunn) so there's really nothing a wrestling company can gain from promoting boxing matches on their show.

But they use to do it all the time back in the day. . An' I liked them. Why wouldn't they just have one more boxin' match to see how the crowd takes it?

They should bring it back 'cause I said so. >:D

I really do hope WSX can get competitive, but they definitely have obstacles, the ADD MTV usually displays towards they're shows, the fact that they're only a half an hour. These things hurt them, but if they're smart and don't burn the audience out on ultraviolence, and can find ways to get their characters over to the TV audience they may actually be able to succeed. They certainly bear watching after last week's 1.0 debut rating.

At 2/3/07 12:39 AM, Slapdamonkeyaz wrote: But they use to do it all the time back in the day. . An' I liked them. Why wouldn't they just have one more boxin' match to see how the crowd takes it?

Other then those two, I really can't think of many other bouts like that that captured any real attention or notoriety. So I think this is just a case of something you liked, but not enough other people did for it to come back.

I think WWE would bring back the Brawl For All before they brought back boxing matches...(a no prize to anyone remembering that bad idea)

At 2/3/07 01:09 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Other then those two, I really can't think of many other bouts like that that captured any real attention or notoriety.

What about Andre vs Gorrila Monsoon?

So I think this is just a case of something you liked, but not enough other people did for it to come back.

Damn. I am sads now. (:<

At 2/3/07 01:12 AM, Slapdamonkeyaz wrote: What about Andre vs Gorrila Monsoon?

Oh yeah...I had repressed that one, thanks for bringing it all back!!!

At 2/3/07 01:29 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Oh yeah...I had repressed that one, thanks for bringing it all back!!!

O shi-!

At 2/2/07 07:00 PM, ShortMonkey wrote:

Anyone play the video games? I like it in Hell in a Cell when you bust your opponent through the top part of the cell. :)

I like it when you manage to make your person go through the top, without you going on the top, it's hard to pull off though. Than doing a flying headbutt, opening your stitches up and combulsing, just like Chris Benoit did with the ladder in Wrestlemania 21. =)