At 9/5/06 06:41 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I missed all of Raw last night, can anyone do some sort of recap?

I'll give it a go, I have never done this before though.

Edge Segment
Edge talks about his superiority in the TLC match and then Cena comes down and sends him through a table.
Matt Hardy vs Johnny Nitro
A great match, it ended when Melina stopped the ref from doing the three count and got Nitro Disqualified. I expect a good match from these two at Unforgiven.
Super Crazy vs Masters
Super Crazy nailed a moonsault to score the upset victory.
McMahon Segment
Father and son came to the ring with the Big Show and bragged about the DX beating from last week. DX came down and took out the security outside the ring. The McMahons and Big Show slipped out of the ring just in time of course.
The Highlanders vs Viscera/Haas vs Cade/Murdoch
The Highlanders won, and will have a shot at the tag titles at Unforgiven.
Umaga and Kane fight
While Maria hosted kiss cam, Ric Flair came down for a kiss. (Doesn't she date CM Punk?) Estrada came down to heckle Flair and Umaga came to beat him down. Before he could Kane came and beat Umaga out of the ring.
Cena, Carlito, Stratus vs Edge Lita and Orton
The match ended when Orton RKO'd Trish and Lita pinned her.

I hope I did a good job.

I think you mean Jeff Hsrdy, but I get ya. Not a bad recap, thanks very much!

Wait, so they didn't include the current tag team champs for either brand? Neither the SS or L&K? Thats messed up.

Anyone been to a Ring of Honor show?

Ring of Honor>>>>>>>>>WWE & TNA x100.

At 9/5/06 06:41 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I missed all of Raw last night, can anyone do some sort of recap?

The biggest thing you missed was... Cryme Tyme, I would explain to you, but you have to see this to believe it. Vince has done some stupid things but this has to be most racist gimmick ever... which means its either going to be huge or its going to be rolled up into one big ball of suck.

You know what? Screw it, I'll the WWE explain just what Cryme Tyme is.

Monday night on RAW, Cryme Tyme was introduced to the RAW audience. In an effort to humor and entertain our fans, the tag team known as Cryme Tyme will be parodying racial stereotypes.

Shad Gaspard and JTG do outlandish, outrageous “stunts” to ready themselves for tag team action on RAW. This attempt at Saturday Night Live-like humor is bound to entertain audiences of all ethnic derivations.

We hope you enjoy the weekly adventures of Cryme Tyme.

You can also see the video of their "adventure"..

At 9/5/06 10:50 AM, pepeatumi wrote: You know what? Screw it, I'll the WWE explain just what Cryme Tyme is.

Monday night on RAW, Cryme Tyme was introduced to the RAW audience. In an effort to humor and entertain our fans, the tag team known as Cryme Tyme will be parodying racial stereotypes.

Shad Gaspard and JTG do outlandish, outrageous “stunts” to ready themselves for tag team action on RAW. This attempt at Saturday Night Live-like humor is bound to entertain audiences of all ethnic derivations.

We hope you enjoy the weekly adventures of Cryme Tyme.

You can also see the video of their "adventure"..

yea they'repretty cool, but whats really going 2 b aweome is unforgiven. KANE VS UMAGA!!! CENA VS EDGE!!! DX VS FATSO AND THE COCK LOVERS!! OH THE HUMANITY!! LOL. and pepeatumi, u might be stuck with that signature 4 a while

So, the intent with Cryme Tyme is to parodize black stereotypes? I probably should have seen that from the way their promo video was made. It was kinda silly.

As for London & Kendrick and the SS being absent from the next wrestling game, eh, I care only a little bit. I really hate wrestling games, but it sucks to see how little the tag team division of both brands is valued when the champions of BOTH BRANDS are missing from the video game roster.

And Super Crazy on RAW is pretty weird, but he did beat Masters, so that was nice to see. I suppose that with ECW's one hour revolving around main events and the newer talent, Super Crazy might not get much airtime, huh? And they probably made the switch for a reason, so I'm expecting Super Crazy to get treated nicely on RAW.

somehow I don't feel sorry I missed it.

Super Crazy on Raw huh? If they are deciding to give him some sort of push then hell I'll be happy with it.

can i join? im friends with loads of wrestlers that website. whats its name again. cant remember. doesnt matter.

I'd like to ask you guys a question about Cryme Tyme. What will be their alignment when they debut on RAW? Will they be faces? Will they be heels? or will they be tweeners? Who will they feud with when they debut on RAW?

BTW, Has anyone watched the wrestling matches that I posted on page 505?

At 9/5/06 04:59 PM, LordKooler wrote: I'd like to ask you guys a question about Cryme Tyme. What will be their alignment when they debut on RAW? Will they be faces? Will they be heels? or will they be tweeners? Who will they feud with when they debut on RAW?

I guess their aligment will depend on what kind of reaction they get from their skits, if its positive they'll be faces if not they'll be heels, as for who they would feud with.. I have no idea.

BTW, Has anyone watched the wrestling matches that I posted on page 505?

I've only been able to watch Hayashi vs Kondo, and I'm probably going to watch Dynamite kid vs Tiger Mask later tonight.

I'm glad you like me recap, it probably won't be a weekly thing. I was thinking about doing a segment called "Smack of the Night" where I say what the best move was on the show.

I'm gonna guess Cryme Tyme will be faces. I think people could get angry if the make stereotypical black men look like the bad guys. I think they should be tweeners though so they don't upset the tag team face/heel balance on Raw.

At 9/5/06 04:00 PM, dunny900 wrote: can i join? im friends with loads of wrestlers that website. whats its name again. cant remember. doesnt matter.

Anyone can post here.

NO SS? NO...LONDON....OR KENDRICK?!!!!?

You know what? I can totally wait for TNA iMPACT!

For those of you Who Are Curious, You Can See the promo here.

I for one thought this was funny, but only because I live in an area where there are alot of these guys.

I'm als very happy that The WWE is making a consious Effort to revive it's tag team divison with exclusive teams Such As SS, Cade and Murdoch, The Highlanders and now Cryme Tyme.

At 9/5/06 04:59 PM, LordKooler wrote:

BTW, Has anyone watched the wrestling matches that I posted on page 505?

I'm watching the AJ Styles & Matt Sydal vs. Strong and Aries, Cuz it has my boy, The Phenominal One in it.

P.S. Why Is AJ's enterance music in ROH the same as TNA?

At 9/5/06 07:20 PM, redface wrote: P.S. Why Is AJ's enterance music in ROH the same as TNA?

I guess those brands don't have ownership over those songs, unlike WWE, which I'm assuming does have ownership over their wrestlers' songs. That's why Christian got a new song when he debuted on TNA.

ECW On Sci Fi report card for 9/5

ECW on Sci-Fi was a solid show this week, despite the fact that they're main event program is now going to stall for this week and next as Big Show is involved in the top RAW angle, which hopefully will be over after Unforgiven. There was also the absolutely tasteless comment made by Matt Striker about the death of Steve Irwin on Monday, which I'll delve into a bit more as we get to that segment.

Let's grade it:

Rob Van Dam and Sabu vs. Knox and Test: This was good compensation for RVD and Sabu having their usual programs on hold for the week, and it was great to see the former ECW tag champions in action. I found it odd that they're twice winning the tag titles was not mentioned by Joey at all, I hate the selective memory WWE uses for these sorts of things. Knox looked like he was in super slow motion with most of his offense, and test wasn't much better, RVD and Sabu carried this one all the way, and hit some pretty awesome spots, and the finish was a nice bit of nostalgia that made this old school ECW mark pop. Grade: A- (points off for the crappy offense by Knox and Test)

Kevin Thorne and Ariel segment: Meh, this did nothing for me, and I think since they came out practically right after this to observe the Balls Mahoney match, we really didn't need to watch them making out for a few minutes. Grade: F (for being pointless)

Matt Striker's Classroom: Matt Striker is a really good talker, and the more I watch him, the more I don't mind the teacher gimmick so much. The man is entertaining on the microphone. With that said though, there is absolutely no excuse for him to be making a tasteless comment about the death of Steve Irwin. Whether you think Irwin's lifestyle choices were stupid or not, it does not change the fact that he was a human being, and a husband and a father. To insult the dead, especially a day after the incident happens, is totally claseless, and I absolutely believe Mcmahon told Striker to go out there and say that. Shame on him. I like that The Sandman is being used as Striker's opposition here, he's the perfect candidate to be Striker's first ECW opponent. I just wish they had been more clear in blowing off the tag feud he was involved in before this. Grade: B- (The points off are completely for the Steve Irwin insult, which was absolutely tasteless, Striker can generate heat without doing stupid shit like that, and if he can't? Then he should find a new job).

Balls Mahoney vs. Stevie Richards: Ariel is dirty hot, I'm going to say that every week...oh the things I'd do to her...um, excuse me...back to grading. Balls and Stevie had a solid little match, and I like that Balls and Thorne are establishing a feud. Stevie getting the win off of Thorne's interference is an angle we've seen many many times, but it's one of those age old tricks that's always good to get a feud going. Good to see more feuds developing. Grade: A (good work, and the development of a new feud, in a well executed package make this a segment I have a hard time finding fault with).

Shannon Moore promo: I have to think TNA management were probably grumbling just a little to hear Moore refer to himself as the "Prince of Punk". It was all set to be a nothing new from Shannon Moore type of segment, but then CM Punk came in to call him a poser and slap the taste out of his mouth. I think we've all wanted to do that for weeks, Moore and Punk should theoretically put out some good matches. Grade: C+(CM and the feud building here completely save this segment from getting it's usual D or F grading from me).

Big Show vs. DX: Personally? I didn't really care about this match, nor do I care about this feud, I can't even fake caring anymore. It's gone too long, and now I can't even watch ECW without escaping it. The match itself was "ok" but I wasn't really moved by anything I saw in it, Michaels did a great plancha, H fucking up his his Hulk Hogan moment was unintentional funny, but beyond that? Nothing much here that had me feeling much at all. This was all about selling Unforgiven, maybe they did that for interested fans, but I just do not care for the Mcmahons and their feuds anymore. Grade: C- (the work was ok, but the match and the story going into it do nothing for me, and therefore it felt like the Batista/Show main event from Hammerstein all over again).

Overall thoughts and grade: Like I said, we had a solid episode this week, the opener was the best match of the night, and proof of why Sabu and RVD are two guys to build the brand around. It wasn't a home run, but it was a fun show that I was largely entertained by, with only minor flaws that hampered my enjoyment. So I'm going to give the overall broadcast a solid B +

The Steve Irwin comment was indeed way over the line. I don't care if they want to build heel heat, it was a cheap shot and pissed a lot of people off. Screw whoever came up with the idea to say that.

At 9/5/06 08:00 PM, cornontheconn wrote: I guess those brands don't have ownership over those songs, unlike WWE, which I'm assuming does have ownership over their wrestlers' songs. That's why Christian got a new song when he debuted on TNA.

Yes, WWE produces their own music through in house composers they have, WWE then is able to own the theme, as well as everything else about the character. Vince is very smart about making sure that guys who leave are not able to exploit the things they did with him for their own benefit elsewhere.

plus since they own the theme they could market it as well. Though they have been known to use stock music too.

CM Punk's the man! He slapped the taste out of that idiot Shannon Moore, maybe this was the end of Shannon's pathetic promos and we'll finally see him wrestle in the coming weeks.

ill join

Post again and try to add a little to the conversation then yeah you can.

Unless the newest game comes with some very good features I don't think I'll get it right away. I can wait a while.

At 9/6/06 12:09 PM, The_D-Lucks_Edition wrote: I'm all up for Striker saying his weekly trash but the Steve Irwin thing was just unacceptable, especially as it only happened the day before. Now I just want Sandman to kick the shit out of him, and for Triple H to beat the shit out of Vince on the RAW for giving him permission to say it.

Very true. That was very insulting. Hell, I almost changed the channel because of that. You don't go and make a tasteless comment as that. Steve Irwin was human, of all things. You don't go on live TV and talk bad about the man. Lord knows his loved ones might have been watching. My personal fuck you of the week goes to Matt Striker because of this.

Fuck you, Matt Striker. (and on a side note, fuck you, Vince McMahon)

Also big ups to CM Punk. You slap that annoying bastard for all of us.

Yeah, that part of the show was awesome. Quote of the evening, "You're a poser."

As for me, I thought the show was ok. Well, except that last part (and Matt Striker, see above). That last match was a little too "Monday Night Raw" for me. And, I was wondering after the match how they would've faired in the Hammerstein Ballroom. What do you guys think?

At 9/6/06 06:53 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: plus since they own the theme they could market it as well. Though they have been known to use stock music too.

True, and they'll occassionally use licensed music as well, but because like you said about the ability to market, and the costs associated with paying for rights, they 9 times out of 10 create their own themes for worker use. I do believe they should be using the Harry Slash ECW music they bought a fuck of a lot more then they do.

alright, i just checked the bio of abyss on the tna website, abyss is just a big fucking fraud of Kane. check out photo 8 and u will c he's doing just what Kane used 2 do. and now i figured out where sting is, so now i can tell my immature cousin who's 9 and is more than a softie where sting is! (and maybe get him a t-shirt 4 his birthday.

At 9/7/06 12:44 AM, StevensA wrote:
As for me, I thought the show was ok. Well, except that last part (and Matt Striker, see above). That last match was a little too "Monday Night Raw" for me. And, I was wondering after the match how they would've faired in the Hammerstein Ballroom. What do you guys think?

First something about the Punk-Moore exchange... Was Moore going to cry? Because it sure looked like it... am emo heel, that's a sure fire way to get some cheap heat.

About the main event, it definitely felt like it belonged on RAW (and not even a good episode) and if it had been in the Ballroom I think it would have been a mixed reaction. HHH for his part would get a lot of boos, due to all the talk about his backstage power, but at the same time DX could have gotten some cheers because they've been around for a while and they've earned the respect of a lot of wrestling fans.

An emo heel? This will just mean that any emo haters will want to beat him up, and since this is ECW we are talking about, that should work.

Think Teddy Long will have someone from SD get involved with Cena's match so that he will lose and go to SD?

At 9/7/06 10:32 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:

Think Teddy Long will have someone from SD get involved with Cena's match so that he will lose and go to SD?

Well... I could see someone like Mr Keeeenedy.... Kennedy, being involved in the match and having a feud with Cena on Smackdown, I know Kennedy's the US champ (the midcard champ) but it would make a pretty good feud.