I would like to see Kane fight Edge or HHH for the title. Since he has has some bouts with them in the past. Plus he could get revenge for the Katie Vick thing. That was one of the events that made me stop wrestling for a few years.

At 4/6/06 08:25 AM, boloneyman wrote: I hope Edge wins at Backlash. Cena is annoying, and I don't really like HHH. He had his shot and lost, he should go to the back of the line.

I am 99% sure that it will be HHH. Hunter has a much bigger influence than Edge in the business. In addition, I saw a Backlash advertisement with HHH vs Cena for the WWE title a few days ago.

Yeah im sure you did, I've seen unofficial reports like that too. They release those advertisements in advance. However, as of yesterday, WWE.com announced that it would now be a triple threat match between Cena, Edge, and HHH.

Kane is overdue for a title regin besides the World Tag Team titles. I'm guessing at Backlash, Cena is going to win it just like how Batista did last year against Triple H.

he still wrestles!

I really get the feeling that Cena will hold the title until ahe turns heel and is eventually challenged by Rob Van Dam.

well I was on WWE.com and they had spoken to orton. you know what that really is? Orton has been on tv so much that this is just a small 2 month vacation. in that 2 months rey will defend his belt and when orton returns he will take it and have a great run and end up facing the returning batista.

Also last TNA on saturday this saturday. one week from today TNA will be on at 11 pm. April 13 at 11pm mark that day people.

Actually I just read the repor and these were Orton's words:

WWE has certain standards of conduct they expect out of all the Superstars on both RAW and SmackDown. Unfortunately, I violated those standards and was not representing WWE the way I should have been. Basically, my conduct was unbecoming of a champion, which is what I will be again when I return.”

But it still doesn't specify what Orton did.

ah ok thanks for clearing that up. Guess I'll have to watch that RVD dvd instead then huh? I'm looking at the back of it and the first match listed is him vs Scotty Flamingo from WCW... Thats Raven in what was a terrible gimmick and supposed ridiculous ring attire. I wouldn't know since I never watched WCW.

At 4/6/06 07:31 PM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: well I was on WWE.com and they had spoken to orton. you know what that really is? Orton has been on tv so much that this is just a small 2 month vacation. in that 2 months rey will defend his belt and when orton returns he will take it and have a great run and end up facing the returning batista.

"To everything turn turn turn turn, to the seasons turn turn turn turn turn. To stories about our workers embarrassing themselves turn turn turn turn turn. Turn a suspension into a vacation, turn turn turn turn"

It's spin. WWE.com wants to portray itself as a "news leader" but they also spin stories and make things up trying to say that since it's official company line, the internet is wrong, and they are right. I could be wrong, but WWE themselves were sending out messages on their wireless service calling it a suspension, and not a vacation.

The only think I take seriously from news wwe gives out are when they announce who they fire. For stuff like this Orton suspension I go to other sources. It's very hard to trust wwe when it comes to stuff like that. Injury reports can also be in question since wwe has used things like a broken arm or wrist as part of a story line on having a wrestler wear a cast that they use as a weapon for a gimmick and not an actual injury. So yeah, go to another sourse to get real news on wwe stuff.

Or maybe Orton just decided to hit on another WWE diva. And on an unrelated point nice reference I wouldn't have expected to hear the Byrds in the WWE club.

At 4/6/06 06:22 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I really get the feeling that Cena will hold the title until ahe turns heel and is eventually challenged by Rob Van Dam.

Oh yea! If Cena retains, no matter if he turns heel or not, he will be booed to the mars by the fans anyway at ONS.

Avie, just to let ya know, WWE never called it a vacation. I just saw it for myself on WWE.com.... Orton responded using the words that Pep posted right after that. DuMa basically made up that entire post that he made about saying it was a vacation. There was no spin except the spin that DuMa put on it. WWE officially called it a suspension as well as Orton himself.

What do you think will happen when Batista returns?

At 4/6/06 10:18 PM, GeneralMBison wrote: What do you think will happen when Batista returns?

With Orton out of the picture right now, it seems like they aren't going to have a feud as soon as I thought they would. One guess I have is that he'll probably have a few matches and will eventually challange the current holder for the WHC. Hopefully that doesn't happen with Rey (although I guess there could be a storyline there) because there's the chance he could lose it to Batista. That would ruin my hopes and dreams for a RVD/Mysterio match at ONS.

At 4/6/06 10:18 PM, GeneralMBison wrote: What do you think will happen when Batista returns?

He needs to win a few squash matches to show that he still belongs the top flight and then he will somehow become the N0.1 contender as challenge a heel champion at GAB. (probably Kane)

Well, looks like I wasn't able to put in my WM22 predictions after all. Ah fuck it, I'm glad I didn't buy it.

As for Cena, as some guy I know T-shirt said, (ahem) "fuCKYou!". RVD 4:20 says, "I just smoked your ass!". Yeah, Edge or Triple H can't get the job done at Backlash, RVD will certainly win it at One Night Stand. Then, after Cena loses, the ECW fans at the arena (along with myself at home) will boo his ass to no end. Yeah, there comes a time when you gotta drop the title and put the next big thing over.

As for Rey, ...no comment. With Orton suspended, I don't see anyone else who's eligible for the title. But, why did Orton get suspended? (didn't see on WWE.com, nor do I feel like reading about it a few pages back.

Now, any news on TNA? And, speaking of TNA, when are they brining back Jeff Hardy?!

who knows about Jeff. TNA certinly doesn't know, since he has proven time and time again to be unreliable. Damn shame too since he is a crowd favorite.

We haven't gotten an official word on just why orton is being suspended. If indeed thats the case since this may just be an excuse for him to take a break. Either way he won't be there for a bit leaving a bit of a hole in the Sd title picture.

What will Batista do when he gets back? Kick some ass of course. He may fued with Rey, or whoever gets the title next but either case expect him to be put right back in the main event spot or close to it to get momentum back.

Okay, I have kind of a random question...maybe one of y'all can answer, because I don't have much knowledge about this kind of behind-the-scenes wrestling stuff, lol.
What happens if a wrestler, in a televised match, begins to actually go off script and start fighting his opponent? Has that ever happened before? I've heard of some people being dicks backstage, but that ever happen in front of millions of people in a match? And if so, how do they handle it?

Just curious, lol.

Someone else may be able to answer your question a bit better than I can. However, I remember I was at an indy show when a wrestler, Romeo Valentino, "went into business for himself". When this occurred, it was quite obvious by the reaction of the opponent. At this point, a wrestler ran out from the back and jumped into the ring striking one of the men to cause the referee to call for a disqualification. The interfering wrestler then grabbed Valentino and attempted to restrain him as security eventually came in and helped out. He was then suspended from the fed.

At 4/6/06 10:18 PM, GeneralMBison wrote: What do you think will happen when Batista returns?

I hope they keep him as a face, because that guy know how to wrestle. I can't wait for him to have gold around his waist again.

Whoo so far that RVD dvd is well worth getting. I didn't get to finish it yet but I will today. Some of these matches are just brutal, and the RVD lift is freakin insane!

Vandamn lift- He is doing a split on two benches and has to lift a weight on the floor. So he's suspended over the thing and has to bend down while keeping his balance and then lifts it. Unbelivable.

The PWTorch Newsletter is reporting that Randy Orton's suspension is due to his behavior backstage at WrestleMania 22.

The issue with Orton seems to be mostly due to his attitude about how he is a main eventer and feeling that he does not have to follow the same rules as everyone else, as opposed to doing something to someone else or his health. The word going around right now is that Orton feels he is above the rules, and has had several issues in the past backstage, mainly with female co-workers and the way he talks to them.

Randy Orton is one of the least liked people backstage, and has the most heat of anyone right now. The Undertaker is said to despise Randy Orton, and it's not just an issue with "serious people" not liking his attitude, as people who love to party like Ric Flair and Kurt Angle do not like him either.

This suspension is likely to be very good for locker room morale, and it doesn't look like anyone will be missing him backstage.

there ya go. This sounds more like the reson to me. What do you guys think about all this?

No wonder Orton looks like a prefect heel he's not even acting he is just being his usual self. Its really not a surprise pretty much since day one Orton has had problems with wrestlers backstage, its a shame a guy with so much talent but with so much ego... reminds me of a young HBK.

At 4/7/06 10:06 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: The PWTorch Newsletter is reporting that Randy Orton's suspension is due to his behavior backstage at WrestleMania 22.

Didn't Avie say that the PW torch is unreliable?

as people who love to party like Ric Flair and Kurt Angle do not like him either.

lol, I can't imagine Kurt being a party animal, with his serious ring presence.

there ya go. This sounds more like the reson to me. What do you guys think about all this?

It would explain how he is such a natural heel.

At 4/7/06 10:06 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: The PWTorch Newsletter is reporting that Randy Orton's suspension is due to his behavior backstage at WrestleMania 22.

I figure it had something to do with that. He probably wasn't too happy he wouldn't be winning the belt.

Randy Orton is one of the least liked people backstage, and has the most heat of anyone right now. The Undertaker is said to despise Randy Orton, and it's not just an issue with "serious people" not liking his attitude, as people who love to party like Ric Flair and Kurt Angle do not like him either.

I never would have imagine Angle as a party animal. Kinda makes me wonder what he does on his spare time...

This suspension is likely to be very good for locker room morale, and it doesn't look like anyone will be missing him backstage.

Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, goodbye...

there ya go. This sounds more like the reson to me. What do you guys think about all this?

Pretty much tells me that he doesn't have to do too much to make his heel presence known if he's like that all the time...

I can see Angle being a party kind of guy. He has too much personality to be boring.

I guess Randy doesn't have to streach too much to be a heel huh? I wonder just how long a person can last if all the people they work with doesn't like them? Wouldn't you think that a job that requires you to work closely with your peers would make you at least try to get along? It makes no sense. it would be like if in a football team all the players hated the QB. You just can't win a game if you won't work with each other.

just to shift gears for a second I think you guys should read this. I agree with him. What do you think?

ps. check that out soon as it won't be there forever.

At 4/7/06 01:18 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: just to shift gears for a second I think you guys should read this. I agree with him. What do you think?

I agree with his beliefs entirely. It seems like they have kinda ran out of ideas to toss around as a storyline and they drag it out to some rediculous extent just to have it happen. It does build momentum to want to see the conclusion, but when it's something that no one wants to see and they build it for a long time, then it just ends up being a normal match by the end of it. Just my thoughts on the whole article that stood out to me.

Here's what PWInsider said about the suspension, they are THE most reliable site on the net for this sort of thing:

The WWE website posted a statement attributed to Randy Orton tonight, noting that he was suspended for not following the type of conduct that WWE wants from its performers. The statement did not delve further into the situation.

As noted yesterday on the PWInsider.com Elite section, the suspension came about due to WWE's unhappiness with Orton's attitude and demeanor and it was a situation that had grown over time as opposed to a singular incident. Rumors that the suspension were related to any recent drug testing from the WWE Wellness program were shot down by sources within the company.

Orton is expected to make several more appearances on Smackdown and will then begin serving his 60 days suspension.

As for the question earlier about when a guy starts fighting for real: This is called "shooting" or "going into business for yourself". Shoots are very much discouraged, and extremely rare. When a shoot does occur, the recipient knows immediately, and referees are usually then able to get word to the back via hand signals, or if this were to happen in WWE, they'd have an ear piece giving them a direct connection to the back. It then falls into the hands of the management to decide how to handle the situation. When Perry Saturn did it in WWE (and Bob Holly as well), WWE allowed the shoot to continue until the match stopped, and then reprimanded the individual (in Saturn's case, it led to his being fired from the company), in the case of the indy example that was mentioned, the decision was made to send someone out to the ring and stop the match immediately.