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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 11:25:24


At 2/8/06 09:53 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I have a question has the Mass Transit incident ever been mentioned in any ECW DVD I would understand why it wouldn't be talked about but its one of the most controversial moments in ECW's history.

It hasn't been mentoned on any DVD as far as I know. I have them all and have never seen it mentioned. Anyway, if you folks don't know what it's all about, allow me to explain.

On Christmas Eve, 1996, ECW almost lost a chance at getting a PPV due to the negative publicity surrounding the Mass Transit Incident. Mass Transit was the wrestling name of a 17 year old named Eric Kulas. ECW held a house show in Revere, Massachusetts on November 23, 1996. Kulas asked Paul Heyman if he could fill in for Axl Rotten, who was scheduled to tag with D-Von Dudley, in a match against the Gangstas, New Jack and Mustapha Saed. The problem was that Kulas had little to no previous training, yet insisted that Killer Kowalski had trained him. He also lied to Heyman about his age (claiming that he was 19) and falsified his documentation. His father also vouched for him.

Kulas was informed before the match that he would have to blade (make himself bleed). Kulas asked New Jack to blade him since he never had done it himself and New Jack agreed. New Jack cut Kulas' forehead too deeply with an exacto knife and severed two arteries in Kulas' forehead. Kulas eventually passed out as the blood was literally spraying out of his head. Kulas' family sued ECW and New Jack over the incident, but the jury acquitted New Jack and ECW. Kulas passed away on May 12, 2002 at the age of 22 due to complications from gastric bypass surgery.

Soon after the Barely Legal PPV, Tod Gordon sold ECW to Paul Heyman. They would then broadcast bi-monthly on PPV. Gordon was kept on as a figurehead commissioner. Gordon was ultimately fired or resigned (at least according to the storyline) due to continuing rumors that he had been working as a "locker room mole", who was helping WCW secure ECW talent.

Eventually, Paul Heyman was in the process of suing WCW for the breach of contract of Raven who had joined WCW in June 1997. Heyman though, didn't have the legal power and finances so he dropped the case for a while and it was never picked up again.

I hope this shed some light on the subject.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 11:52:20


It was mentioned on the Rise and Fall of ECW dvd, though they didn't give a detailed story on it. It was tied inot the story of them getting on PPV.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 15:42:51


At 2/8/06 06:05 AM, SaiNT_SiLEiGHtY wrote: Did Kurt fail as a heel? Or Cena fail as a Face?

Dun Dun Dun...!

Cena failed as a face. What keeps on slapping on Vince's face is that there are more people boo Cena than cheering for him. However, Hunter THOUGHT that he was heelish enough to draw the heat, that was why Edge was screwed. HHH is a great heel, no doubt that. But I guess that even God will not draw the heat and boos from Cena since he fails as a face so much. :P


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 15:44:42


Too Eagle, I do know that HHH is a great wrestler, especially in the ring. I just do not like his backstage policy, that's all. :P


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 16:45:36


SmackDown! *Spoilers*

Read the spoilers to get a basic understanding of what is to come this Friday. Quite frankly, it doesn't give to much detail this week...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 22:46:49


Yeah, it sounds kind of sucky, must like most Smackdowns. However, I am happy to see that MNM makes more than one appearance. I've seen a couple of you say that you are not fans of theirs but I definitely am. All things considered, I will watch it anyway and then probably feel like I just wasted 2 hours.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 23:17:01


MNM is one of the better teams going right now. Having them defend the titles against the mexicools is a good thing for that division.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 23:22:29


Yeah MNM has become a formidable tag team but there's only one other really good tag team and that's the Mexicools. Personally I would prefer there were only one pair of tag titles and have them be defended on Raw and Smackdown.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 23:24:39


At 2/8/06 11:22 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Yeah MNM has become a formidable tag team but there's only one other really good tag team and that's the Mexicools. Personally I would prefer there were only one pair of tag titles and have them be defended on Raw and Smackdown.

That's actually a great idea. There are no good tag teams left, as they were all fired or quit. Having a single title would make things a helluva lot more interesting, as we will see a lot more inter-brand matches.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-08 23:38:06


It seems Mick Foley has a problem wiith the whole Eddie is hell angle as well just reaf his most recent Foley Is Blog article and he basically says what's on everyone's mind eveyrone should read this its just more proff of what makes Foley great.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 00:00:39


At 2/8/06 11:22 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Yeah MNM has become a formidable tag team but there's only one other really good tag team and that's the Mexicools. Personally I would prefer there were only one pair of tag titles and have them be defended on Raw and Smackdown.

They're not the only good teams. London and Kendrick are awesome, and the Gemini ought to show up more. A lot of you don't like the Dicks, but I think they're decent wrestlers, and they're worth it for the dick jokes alone. MNM is pretty talented, but I wish so much that their characters weren't so one-dimensional.

Speaking of tag teams, Burchill and Regal split up and are going solo. Judging by Burchill's scene with Teddy Long, he might get stuck with a pirate gimmick. I have no doubts that Burchill will fit the role very well, but I'm wondering how much potential a pirate gimmick has...

Speaking of gimmicks, I guess Shelton's Mama wasn't such a bad idea after all. They've got nothing else to do with Shelton, and I find it rather hilarious.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 00:02:33


At 2/8/06 11:24 PM, EagleRock wrote:
At 2/8/06 11:22 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Yeah MNM has become a formidable tag team but there's only one other really good tag team and that's the Mexicools. Personally I would prefer there were only one pair of tag titles and have them be defended on Raw and Smackdown.
That's actually a great idea. There are no good tag teams left, as they were all fired or quit. Having a single title would make things a helluva lot more interesting, as we will see a lot more inter-brand matches.

I agree 100%. Besides that, the titles would probably mean a lot more. Sometimes, the average wrestling fan couldn't even tell you who the tag-team champs are. And the reason is the total lack of competition within the tag team division. I miss the days of the Rockers, Road Warriors, Bush Whackers, Hart Foundation, Midnight Express, Head Bangers, Demolition, Doom, Harlem Heat, British Bulldogs, Edge & Christian, The Steiner Brothers, The Outsiders, the Hardys, the Dudleys, and the greatest tag team ever...(in my opinion of course).... The New Age Outlaws!

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 00:03:40


At 2/8/06 11:24 PM, EagleRock wrote:
That's actually a great idea. There are no good tag teams left, as they were all fired or quit. Having a single title would make things a helluva lot more interesting, as we will see a lot more inter-brand matches.

I miss my old tag teams. The Hardys, The Dudleys, Christian and Edge those were some of the greatest tag matches ever. I miss 2 Cool as well.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 01:46:11


At 2/8/06 11:25 AM, TheNewAgeOutlaw wrote: It hasn't been mentoned on any DVD as far as I know. I have them all and have never seen it mentioned. Anyway, if you folks don't know what it's all about, allow me to explain.

I think they go into some more detail about it on Forever Hardcore, as New Jack explains the legal fall out he had to go through.

Soon after the Barely Legal PPV, Tod Gordon sold ECW to Paul Heyman. They would then broadcast bi-monthly on PPV. Gordon was kept on as a figurehead commissioner. Gordon was ultimately fired or resigned (at least according to the storyline) due to continuing rumors that he had been working as a "locker room mole", who was helping WCW secure ECW talent.

It was a storyline according to Gordon, something he and Paul E. cooked up after it had become public that Todd helped the Public Enemy get a better deal with WCW (Tod had some connections there). Todd was going to leave the business anyway to spend more time with his family, but he and Paul decided to cook this angle up for later use in case he ever came back. Which he never did, and Paul never made it public according to Gordon, probably out of fear that the boys would have walked out, since not only were they not being paid, they'd now not be able to trust Paul.

Eventually, Paul Heyman was in the process of suing WCW for the breach of contract of Raven who had joined WCW in June 1997. Heyman though, didn't have the legal power and finances so he dropped the case for a while and it was never picked up again.

I didn't know that, I had actually heard both parties were pretty ok with Raven leaving, but I can't neccessarily back that one up with any hard evidence.

I hope this shed some light on the subject.

Ditto : )


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 10:38:13


They are making Burchil a pirate? lol just what we needed.

At least SD has a few teams to it's name, Raw barely has any.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 10:52:18


At 2/9/06 10:38 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: They are making Burchil a pirate? lol just what we needed.

We want more Burchill! I like his accent. Much better than Regal's accent. I think Burchill has some quite good comedy gimmick potential really. I don't like him that much as a serious person.
It looks like Birchall actually has a good finisher as well, The C-4, which i dont think he's used on Smackdown. Maybe on Velocity.

At least SD has a few teams to it's name, Raw barely has any.

We want more Kendrick and London!

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 12:45:23


At 2/9/06 10:52 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
We want more Kendrick and London!

Agreed they're the best tag team that's never used in the WWE and what's worse they don't even get shots for the cruserweight title as singles superstars.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 15:48:38


I believe they are getting a shot at the Tag Titles this week on SD. Unfortunately for them, they will fall to MNM though as they should.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 16:28:20


At 2/9/06 10:38 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: They are making Burchil a pirate? lol just what we needed.

At least SD has a few teams to it's name, Raw barely has any.

Talking about the tag team division, I feel sad how WWE is treating them right now. The Dicks are decent, but WWE is making them job against Lashley who rarely speaks in squash matches. The case for RAW is even worse. Big Show and Kane are the champions, that means that the tag team division at RAW does not exist sice show and Kane work as individuals most of the time. Due to the lack of quality ttag eams on RAW, I believe that it is time to unite the two tag divisions for the two shows so that we can at least watch some decent tag team actions in the future.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 18:47:33


I have to actually agree about the tag divisions, while SD! is still abusing theirs (by having MNM, who are a great team no doubt, destroy every other team, except the Mexicools, who were screwed out of a victory), RAW just has Kane and Big Show, and the Heart Throbs, who are never on RAW, so do they really even count?

When the brand extension started, I was all in favor of two sets of tag belts, or treating them as something that could be defended on both shows like the then Undisputed Title. But the situation now is that one show seems focused on tag wrestling, and the other is just throwing together a couple of guys to "place hold" the belts. If RAW's creative team thinks so little of the tag belts, they may as well just do away with them.

Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 19:28:12


At 2/9/06 10:52 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
At 2/9/06 10:38 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: They are making Burchil a pirate? lol just what we needed.
We want more Burchill! I like his accent. Much better than Regal's accent. I think Burchill has some quite good comedy gimmick potential really. I don't like him that much as a serious person.
It looks like Birchall actually has a good finisher as well, The C-4, which i dont think he's used on Smackdown. Maybe on Velocity.

I liked Burchill the moment he debuted on Smackdown. Now that he's getting a gimmick (and not that bad of a one) I'm optimistic that we'll get to see more of him.

On another note, it was kind of interesting that this past Smackdown was the first time my older sister (who quite dislikes wrestling for being fake) actually watched it with my little brother and I. I thought it was pretty fun, watching with her, even though she still doesn't like it. Lashley freaked her out, and when she saw The Dicks come out, she was like "WHo the hell are they?" She was also rather disgusted by how they used Eddie's name during the show, as I'm sure we all are. She liked Burchill's section.

"Mr. Regal, you have ancestry tracing back to British nobility. And you, Mr. Burchill...?"
"Pirates."
"Pirates?"
"Yes, Pirates."

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 21:45:33


And this means that they actually have a chance of winning why?

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 22:22:08


At 2/9/06 08:19 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: It seems none of you have heard....

Snitsky and Tomko recently won their match on Heat, making them the number one contenders for the Tag titles.

Ha ha hahahaaa ha haaaa haaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaha ha.

Oh boy, tearjerker.

They're far from being the most interesting tag team, but I thought it's kinda cool that they're a team, considering they previously held "henchmen" roles.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 22:45:33


At 2/8/06 12:57 AM, Dream_of_Duke wrote: MegaGold, are you kidding me? I don't like HHH too much either since I am a big Taker/Orton mark. But I have to admit that The Game is THAT DAMN BAD. I am too lazy to post long and argue with you here. But saying HHH as one of the worst is just plain insane and stupid.

Triple H is like a school girl, can be cheap, but not good at wrestling. At least I agree with you when you say THAT DAMN BAD.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 23:00:06


I honestly do not know how you can say that Triple H is not good at wrestling. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. He is a fantastic mat technician and he can single handedly carry a match, even a fatal four way with three shitty wrestlers. You don't have to be a fan of his but saying that he is not good at wrestling is like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't good at Martial Arts. It's absolutely insane and if you really think that HHH is a bad wrestler than I am interested to know who you think is a good wrestler.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 23:26:51


At 2/9/06 08:19 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: It seems none of you have heard....

Snitsky and Tomko recently won their match on Heat, making them the number one contenders for the Tag titles.

Ha ha hahahaaa ha haaaa haaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaha ha.

actually visera and Val won. I was there. So they are the ones who are getting the title shot.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-09 23:27:29


At 2/9/06 11:00 PM, TheNewAgeOutlaw wrote: I honestly do not know how you can say that Triple H is not good at wrestling. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. He is a fantastic mat technician and he can single handedly carry a match, even a fatal four way with three shitty wrestlers.

I'll have to back you up on this one. I may, just like Dream_of_Duke, not be a big fan of his back-stage muscling, but I have to give credit where credit is due and recognize his abilities in the ring. I honestly think the first half of the Royal Rumble was great, and it was great because of him. He can sell people's moves like noone's business, and he can really sell his own moves all the better. Plus, he is great at making fun of his opponents in the ring and is always fun to listen to on mike.

You don't have to be a fan of his but saying that he is not good at wrestling is like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't good at Martial Arts. It's absolutely insane and if you really think that HHH is a bad wrestler than I am interested to know who you think is a good wrestler.

True again. I have to give credit where credit's due. Similar to Ric Flair, any match that HHH is in is bound to be a good one, no matter the competition. A Flair/HHH match, of course, is all the better. I was truly astounded last Monday at how great their match was.

Either way, good point. We may not like him in real life, but he's got what it takes to be good in that ring.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-10 01:48:55


At 2/9/06 10:45 PM, MegaGold wrote:
At 2/8/06 12:57 AM, Dream_of_Duke wrote: MegaGold, are you kidding me? I don't like HHH too much either since I am a big Taker/Orton mark. But I have to admit that The Game is THAT DAMN BAD. I am too lazy to post long and argue with you here. But saying HHH as one of the worst is just plain insane and stupid.
Triple H is like a school girl, can be cheap, but not good at wrestling. At least I agree with you when you say THAT DAMN BAD.

Snap! I was intending to type "that damn good". Don't forget that he is a 10 times world champion. He is also a fun wrestler to watch. He "woo"ed in the match against Flair before he tried to hit Ric on the ring post, I had a great laugh. It is apparent that you have serious bias on HHH and you refuse to listen to everyone else's voice. Most of your posts are about how HHH "sucks". I even do not want to waste my time to argue with you because you do not understand wrestling.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-10 06:38:54


The store I went to didn't have the ECW dvd the other day so I'm going to check again today.

Yeah, SD on tonight, ans as usual I'll have to see it later than most of you due to work, so don't mind me if I skip reviews until I do.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-02-10 11:01:27


At 2/10/06 06:38 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: The store I went to didn't have the ECW dvd the other day so I'm going to check again today.

Yeah, SD on tonight, ans as usual I'll have to see it later than most of you due to work, so don't mind me if I skip reviews until I do.

The Undertaker has a match tonight against Mark Henry. I cannot remember when he wrestled on SD! last time. Because of the feud with Angle, Taker has shown up a lot lately. Hopefully, he will be a full time worker again so that WWE may give him another title reign. ;)


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