Whoa, Carlito was wrestling before WWE? When the hell was that? Then again, he would be an awesome face. All I know was that his father was a wrestler. But, nice info , noneoftheless.

Yes he was a wrestler in Puerto Rico Since he was about 17 he is a much better wrestler than what he's shown so far.

At 11/26/05 01:42 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Yes he was a wrestler in Puerto Rico Since he was about 17 he is a much better wrestler than what he's shown so far.

Yep, working for his father Carlos Colon, I have a friend who regularly goes back to Puerto Rico to visit his family, and he also said Carlito has more skills then he's shown thus far. But yeah, Carlito is easily going to be a babyface very soon I feel.

Perhaps I misunderstood something here, but tell me if I have a point or not:

Before the 2005 draft lottery, when Batista and the WHC was still on Raw, Edge won the Money in the Bank ladder match for a contract giving him the right to challenge for the World Heavyweight Championship whenever he saw fit. However, just before the draft lottery, I recall Jerry Lawler saying something like "And what if Edge were drafted to SD!? His contract is for the World Heavyweight Championship, not the WWE Championship." After the lottery, Cena came to Raw and Batista went to SmackDown! Wouldn't this mean that Edge's contract is useless to him unless he is traded to Smackdown!?

If it is still valid, the WWE Creative Team has a lot of explaining to do....

At 11/26/05 02:52 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Yep, working for his father Carlos Colon, I have a friend who regularly goes back to Puerto Rico to visit his family, and he also said Carlito has more skills then he's shown thus far. But yeah, Carlito is easily going to be a babyface very soon I feel.

Wasn't he getting near before? He was getting cheered by the fans, then they did the storyline where he poisoned to Big DShow and that really turned him back in the fans eyes. I can't help it, he's growing on me.

Carlito has always been great on a mic and is capable of making everyone a fan of him. Now that's cool.

At 11/26/05 01:09 AM, cornontheconn wrote: Man, I don't wanna see Big Show as a heel. :(

But Randy Orton turning so much cooler makes up for it. RKO's on HBK and Carlito on Monday, and on the cowboys tonight! Badass.

My little brother and I were considering that Undertaker might take the place of Batista at SS. Sure, he's not on good terms with RO, but SD and RAW are both already hosting team members that normally wouldn't get along, so don't disqualify that possibility, guys. Some of you think that Undertaker will screw SD, but I think he might actually be their savior.

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I am actually hoping that Randy Orton can be a face again. First of all, I can fianlly say goodbye to the old fuck Bob Orton if RO turns face. Secondly, RKO looks much sharper against heels. But I guess that they will keep him heel until he wraps up the feud with Taker. After watching Kane and Big Show slammed Batista. I actually think that SD! will win the match at SS. Not to mention that Taker may replace the injured Batista, SD! needs the win there to prove that it can compete against RAW. So my nod goes to team SD!.

At 11/26/05 03:46 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Carlito has always been great on a mic and is capable of making everyone a fan of him. Now that's cool.

He eats fruit though. That's not cool.
He does spit it out though.

At 11/26/05 03:23 PM, -Mitsubishi- wrote: Perhaps I misunderstood something here, but tell me if I have a point or not:

Before the 2005 draft lottery, when Batista and the WHC was still on Raw, Edge won the Money in the Bank ladder match for a contract giving him the right to challenge for the World Heavyweight Championship whenever he saw fit. However, just before the draft lottery, I recall Jerry Lawler saying something like "And what if Edge were drafted to SD!? His contract is for the World Heavyweight Championship, not the WWE Championship." After the lottery, Cena came to Raw and Batista went to SmackDown! Wouldn't this mean that Edge's contract is useless to him unless he is traded to Smackdown!?

If it is still valid, the WWE Creative Team has a lot of explaining to do....

Well, I guess they have a lot of explaining to do. It did say that it was for the World Heavyweight Championship, not for the WWE Championship. I guess they didnt wanna screw Edge over. Beats me. Thanks for bringing that up, by the way.

Having The Dicks on WWE is gonna do wonders for the humorous aspect of the show. Just imagine the potential for Dick jokes. It will be glorious.

Like, they could make fun of how The Dicks are really short. Haha. (They actually are pretty short).

Or they could be like "Oh man, The Dicks are rubbing baby lotion on eachother. Haha."

Or "OH NO! LOD couldn't beat The Dicks on their debut!"

See? They could make fun of Dick-beating.

YAY i love watching wrestling, finally a forum i can read everyday!

At 11/26/05 04:50 PM, cornontheconn wrote: Having The Dicks on WWE is gonna do wonders for the humorous aspect of the show. Just imagine the potential for Dick jokes. It will be glorious.

Like when Tazz was saying "Hey Cole, you should hang out with the Dicks."
It is a bit distasteful, but humourous nonetheless.

Or like Steve Romero as of 2 weeks ago.

"The question is, can LOD beat The Dicks?"

At 11/26/05 04:05 PM, StevensA wrote: Well, I guess they have a lot of explaining to do. It did say that it was for the World Heavyweight Championship, not for the WWE Championship. I guess they didnt wanna screw Edge over. Beats me. Thanks for bringing that up, by the way.

No problem. And I have to agree with your theory. With rumours of Edge possibly jumping ship to TNA (although this is likely NOT going to happen) WWE won't want to screw him over. However, they will probably have a contract signing between Edge and the WWEC then someone will come out, tell Edge about the problem with the contract, state that he should get the oppurtunity to fight for the belt (*cough* Angle *cough) then Bishoff will come out and make it a triple threat match for the WWE Championship.

Sorry for the double post, but I found this on a website and thought to pass it along...

The WWE New Years Revolution PPV, which will take place on January 8th, 2006 in Albany, New York. The poster for that event will feature John Cena standing in front of the "Elimination Chamber" holding the WWE Title. This basically indicates two things, first that John Cena should hold onto the title at Survivor Series and secondly, this confirms the rumors that the "Elimination Chamber" will be featured at New Years Revolution.

There have been other early ads that have run which pretty much confirm this rumor.

when the hell is Cena going to lose the title? Cena's mic skills are starting to get a bit stale and he has like five moves he isn't that good.

At 11/26/05 06:08 PM, pepeatumi wrote: when the hell is Cena going to lose the title? Cena's mic skills are starting to get a bit stale and he has like five moves he isn't that good.

He mightg lose it tomorrow, he could lose on RAW, anytime. Just know that he has to lose it some time or another. Hell, I kinda hope he holds on to it for Edge to beat him for it. I mean, he didnt win that money in the bank for nothing, now, did he? Although it was originally for Batista's World Heavyweight Championship, I guess they dont want to screw over Edge and eventually lose him. So, yeah, Cena is probably gonna win despite the odds against him.

Say what happen to the fight on SD!? you know when Kane and Big Show double chokeslam the table the fight at the ring what happen to that fight?

At 11/26/05 08:15 PM, JohnCena751 wrote: Say what happen to the fight on SD!? you know when Kane and Big Show double chokeslam the table the fight at the ring what happen to that fight?

Er, I dont know. It ended when that happened. But I do hope that SD did win that invasion fight. Anyways, does anyone know that Smackdown will be on Tuesday next week? Just asking...

I noticed the whole money in the bank problem but here is the thing: WWE thinks we're stupid and won't remember details. Logic is something wwe is very uncomfortable with and tends to forget about it as much as possible and hopes we do too.

LordKooler's TNA iMPACT review
1."Alpha Male" Monty Brown vs Elvis
This isn't the king of rock and roll or an impersonator, It's just an indipendent wrestler from Florida who uses the name Elvis. We don't know his real name. Monty Brown won at the end.
2.3Live Kru segment
BG James' announcement involving the future of 3LK and Kip James. BG James says that 3LK and Kip James are his family but Ron Killings & Konnan are not sure if they want Kip James as a member. Then when Konnan is on the mic, He talks about Kip James' history in WWE as Wrestlecrap inductee Rockabilly, As a member of Degeneration X, And his tag team with Chuck Palumbo. The only things that Konnan didn't mention were the Smoking Gunns and Kip James' victory in the 1999 King of the ring as Billy Gunn. Then at the end, Konnan makes Kip James the newest member of 3LK. With the addition of Kip James, 3Live Kru became the 4Live Kru.
3.AJ Styles vs Chris Sabin
During the match, Samoa Joe came out to watch with the blood of Christopher Daniels on his towel and someone was holding up a sign that said, "AJ Sucks". Why does he think AJ Styles sucks? AJ Styles doesn't suck, He's one of the best wrestlers in TNA, the Indipendent curcuit, and in the United States. AJ Styles won at the end with the Styles Clash. If I were a wrestler, I would use the Styles Clash as one of my finishing moves. At Turning Point, Will AJ Styles end Samoa Joe's undefeated streak or will Samoa Joe become the new X Division champion?
4.Abyss vs Jeff Hardy
When Abyss was about to hit Jeff Hardy with a steel chair, The lights went out and Sabu appeared outside the ring with that steel chair with barbed wire again. This caused Jeff Hardy to fight back and attack Abyss with the steel chair. Then he took off his shirt and used the Swantawn bomb to win.
5.Jeff Jarrett vs Kip James
Kip James' first match as a member of 4LK. When Jeff Jarrett was outside of the ring during the match, Former WWE diva Jackie Gayda came out and attacked Gail Kim. Security seperated both of them. What grudge does Jackie Gayda hold against Gail Kim? Because of this, Expect to see a match between Gail Kim & Jackie Gayda at Turning Point. And I also think that Jackie's husband Charlie Haas will debut on TNA to feud with Jeff Jarrett for the NWA World Heavyweight Title if Jarrett is still champion after Turning Point. Bobby Roode attacked Kip James with a hockey stick and Jeff Jarrett won the match. Then all of Team Canada except for Johnny Devine attack 4LK while Jarrett is leaving the ring. Before the match they showed a video clip with Rhino talking about his life. Rhino said it was tough growing up in Detroit, Then Rhino says that his father died when he was 14 and his mother used to work a lot. Rhino started wrestling when he was 18 years old and Rhino said that the wrestling school he trained in was dirty. Then they show clips of Rhino wrestling in the indipendent curcuit in Michigan under the names Terry Richards and Rhino Richards before becoming a star in ECW as Rhino.

I still don't like billy..er.. kip james. He freakin sucks.

I need to make some kind of reminder or something.. This is twice in a row where I have forgotten that TNA was on.

I'd like to join this group.

AJ Styles will beat Samoa Joe Styles always wins

At 11/27/05 12:13 PM, pepeatumi wrote: AJ Styles will beat Samoa Joe Styles always wins

So does Samoa Joe.

badeggman90 you are # 164. welcome!

Is their match going to be a ppv one or will it be on impact?

At 11/27/05 01:43 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: badeggman90 you are # 164. welcome!

Is their match going to be a ppv one or will it be on impact?

Its gonna take place in the next ppv

Big news: Rumor is a former WWE superstar will return at the Raw vs Smackdown match tonight. logic would say its Taker but like i said its a "Former" huge superstar.

Man, what happened to the PPV Bell-by-Bell thing on the site? I liked that feature. :(

Means I have to wait til PPV is over to see results.

Well, I probably won't see Survivor Series until a week from today (a friend is taping it, we would have all hung out and watched it, but he's working), so I think I'm still going to try and read the topic here, but try to avoid much of anything that comes after the show...doubt that'll work too well, I may just try to talk in generalities, or have to stop reading altogether, if people could kindly keep in mind that I'm trying to avoid results from the Survivor Series as much as possible (but MOST specifically the actual brand vs brand match, since I doubt I'll tape either show this week), I am kindly asking that if you are going to directly talk about something from the show, you put some sort of warning up before hand like "Avie don't read" or something similar. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks guys : )

Don't worry, Avie. You can count on HHHWINS us. ;)