At 11/11/05 12:04 PM, Dream_of_Duke wrote: So my belt is that SD! is going to vocate the belt for Batista's case. What do you guys think?

If Batista can't compete for any long amount of time, like over a month or so. They'll vacate the belt, and have a tournament. This could be a blessing in disguise for the planned Randy/Batista feud, as he could wrap up his issue with the Undertaker, and win the belt, becoming a cocky as hell champ, but with the announcers putting over how he never beat Batista for the belt. Batista could then become a surprise Rumble entrant, win, and then try to take it back from Orton at Mania. It's not the greatest situation in the world for them to be in, but they can try and turn this negative into something of a positive...but I have no faith in them doing so.

At 11/11/05 10:33 PM, LordKooler wrote: I have some questions to ask about matt & jeff hardy.

I have some answers, I think. Opinions mostly/

What's the difference between Jeff Hardy's release from WWE and Matt's release from WWE?

Well, Jeff's release was a situation where he was fired for showing up late too often, and having basically no desire to be there. It was something that was a long time in coming, and I think a lot of fans in the know felt the company was justified. Thus, he was not brought back.

Matt's release was sudden, stupid, and totally over Matt making a situation in his personal life public that WWE didn't want public. Matt had a ton of sympathy, and almost every fan on the net on his side. WWE looked at this situation from their own need to control all information about their talents, and not from the perspective of what a sympathetic babyface the situation had made Matt. They dropped the ball, and the internet outcry was so strong, it made them rethink their position, and bring him back.

Who has a larger internet fanbase? Matt or Jeff?

I think it's easily Matt at the moment, unless WWE completely erodes it, WWE has more fans then TNA, and Matt is still riding the wave of his comeback to a certain degree.

Which release did people give a bigger deal about? Jeff Hardy's release from WWE or Matt Hardy's release from WWE?

Matt's release had people in a total uproar, and got him brought back. People hemmed and hawwed about Jeff, but it was pretty obvious he'd brought it on himself with his lack of commitment. Easily Matt here.

What did Jeff Hardy say about Matt's release from WWE?

I believe Jeff's official comment was that it sucked (and it did) and that he hoped Matt would come to TNA and they could work together again.

And who has had a more sucsessful singles career? Matt or Jeff?

I think Matt has been slightly more successful, Jeff is another of TNA's "hardcore" guys, which means he's there to do sick spots, but is not getting a real push within the company, plus his attitude and lack of commitment have gotten him into hot water with TNA management so far. Matt has had a title run or two since he split with Jeff, been involved in several high profile feuds, and has a chance to really make an impact now that he's back on SD! once more. I'd say Matt has been more successful then Jeff, but both are being treated as mid-carders who will not crash through into the main events any time soon in their respective promotions.

you never know.. stranger things have happened.

With Batista hurt, who will be the other person in the SS match? My guess would have to be Matt since he was both helping rey, and got in the limo and chased after masters with the rest of the SS team. A little convenient maybe? Makes you wonder if the batista thing is legit huh? Then again they did plant the seed for a Randy/Matt fued to take place, so who knows.

Actually there were some good things about SD tonight (I just finished watching the tape. Man it's good to skip the commercials) The Mexicools were actually on Sd with a fued for the tag belts on the way. A good opening match with Randy and Rey too. eh, thats about it I think. oh yeah, Eddie had a good match as well.

Haha, Duke, what'd you get banned for?

Also, lol at The Dicks. What amazing faggotry, squirting water or oil on eachother.

I laughed at the little limo chase they had, too.

Hey, wouldn't it be neat if they had at least one character that kinda screwed around with all of the weird wrestler's gimmicks? Like, steal Kerwin White's golf cart, or steal JBL's horns from his limo, or take the Dick's bottle oil or water and squirt it on himself or something? I'd totally do that kind of stuff as a pro wrestler, if I were one.

And mess around with Divas. And run around in the ring while my opponent chases me for 20 minutes when time runs out.

Oh, I just saw the site and it announced a Triple Threat next week for Batista's belt between Batista himself, Randy Orton, and Eddie Guerrero. They're probably doing this to get Batista's belt to one of the others.

At 11/12/05 01:19 AM, cornontheconn wrote: Oh, I just saw the site and it announced a Triple Threat next week for Batista's belt between Batista himself, Randy Orton, and Eddie Guerrero. They're probably doing this to get Batista's belt to one of the others.

I would say that's the trick, yeah, since I've not heard anything about Batista's back, the last I heard was that the muscle rolled up. If he's able to gut it out for this match...made respect for Batista, but I would figure he'll probably spend much of the match on the floor and such to protect his injured back. Randy or Eddie would make a very good champion right now, and it might even be smart to have Randy screw over both Eddie and Batista, have Orton do something to Batista so as to storyline explain his injury, and then Eddie can play the babyface in a feud for the belt to "avenge his buddy" it also would open the door to a possible Eddie heel turn when Batista comes back. Wow...it looks like WWE has actually set something up that might actually draw some dividends for them.

Oh, so the muscle rolled up! I was wondering how what happened on SD would cause a back injury, since it didn't even look like much.

So, Eddie caused Kennedy's first one-on-one loss? Haha. Clever way to do it. Doesn't really count without Kennedy getting pinned or tap-outted though.

/SMACK

"Disqualify that!"

Also, with Lashley on the big team, looks like he's finally a full-fledged Superstar!

And why the fuck did they have that Top Model girl on that show? What a random, unimportant girl to have on the show. Did UPN simply make them do it? Stupidness. She was purdy, though.

I guess as long as SD is on UPN, they'll have to promote a few of it's shows. I think they said something about her being a fan and telling that on the model show, but i'm not real sure about that.

TNA is on tonight right? It wasn't last week...

At 11/12/05 02:42 AM, cornontheconn wrote: Oh, so the muscle rolled up! I was wondering how what happened on SD would cause a back injury, since it didn't even look like much.
Also, with Lashley on the big team, looks like he's finally a full-fledged Superstar!

And why the fuck did they have that Top Model girl on that show? What a random, unimportant girl to have on the show. Did UPN simply make them do it? Stupidness. She was purdy, though.

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Here are my point of view. First of all, I admit that Lashley is quite damn good, but it is still a bit early to let him get involved in the main event of PPV. By allowing him to be one of the five superstars represident SD!, it will only increase his arrogance. It will be boring if Lashley turns out to be the SD! version of Masters. Secondly, as you said, there were too many DQs yesterday. The worst way of ending a match is DQ. Thirdly, Rey is on fire recently, but I think that he should give other superstars a chance to show themselves in the PPV. By the way, the old fuck Bob Orton needs to DIE for good. Lastly, I believe that the reason why SD! sent the top model girl is because they set her as the spark of the MNM-Mexicool feud. It may not be a good idea. But at least chicken fight can be entertaining sometimes.

The Mexicools are pretty good. I hope they can beat MNM.

Well, I hope that we get some new champs in both WWE and TNA. Like, for example, Jeff Jarrett. He's been in wrestling for too long and should stop.

About that father/son fued I was talked about. Orton will probably wind up losing that triple threat match cuz his father interferes and gives Batista the upset win. Then, after the match, Orton will yell at his father for a few moments and then give him the RKO. I mean, Bob Orton Jr. is a legend, right? So why hasnt Orton "slayed" his father? Just asking. Any opinions?

Also, about SD vs. RAW. Well, this is pretty obvious, but Masters, Carlito are gonna be in it. Edge gets the theme he currently has. Orton's RKO gets better (from what I heard.) Other than that, I havent heard anything else. TNA comes on in about 2 hours, so im gonna quit talking and wait 'til it comes on. Stevens has spoken.

Uh, I know I've been asking this for a while, but does anyone know what matches will happen at TNA Genesis? A rematch for the NWA title between Rhino and "Double J" Jeff Jarrett? Any X-Division matches? Hell, I just need to know! Thanks ahead of time. I appreciate the help. Stevens, out.

At 11/12/05 10:08 PM, StevensA wrote: Uh, I know I've been asking this for a while, but does anyone know what matches will happen at TNA Genesis?

This is from the TNA site:

SIX MAN MAIN EVENT
Rhino and Team 3D vs. Jeff Jarrett and America's Most Wanted
X DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
“The Phenomenal” AJ Styles vs. Team Canada’s Petey Williams
ELIMINATION X MATCH: ELIMINATION RULES
“The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels, “The Samoan Submission Machine” Samoa Joe, Alex Shelley and Roderick Strong vs. Chris Sabin, Matt Bentley, “The Original Playa From The Himalaya” Sonjay Dutt and Austin Aries!
NO DISQUALIFICATION MATCH
Sabu vs. The Monster Abyss

CONTENDER'S MATCH
"The Alpha Male" Monty Brown vs."The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy
TAG TEAM BATTLE
Team Canada vs. The 3Live Kru
More Matches Announced Soon

hope that helps.

LordKooler's TNA Impact review
1.Monty Brown segment
Monty Brown talks about Jeff Hardy and says that he deserves an NWA World Heavyweight Title shot more than anybody. Then Abyss comes out and James Mitchell says that Abyss wants a title shot more than Monty Brown. Then Jeff Hardy comes out and all 3 men battle in the ring until security seperates them.
2.Samoa Joe vs Austin Aries
Can Austin Aries give Samoa Joe his first loss in TNA? Last year, Austin Aries defeated Samoa Joe to end Samoa Joe's 21 month long ROH Title reign to become the new champion. But Samoa Joe is still undefeated and wins at the end. Why is Samoa Joe in the X Division? I know the X Division has no weight limit but Samoa Joe is 280 pounds! He should be in the Heavyweight division. Christopher Daniels did commentary during the match.
3.Kip James vs Lex Lovett
Kip James squashed Lex Lovett at the end. Then A-1, Eric Young, and Bobby Roode come out but 3Live Kru attacked them. When will Johnny Devine return? And although WWE owns the rights to the name "Billy Gunn", Why does Monty Sopp still use that name in the indipendent circut? When Rikishi was released by WWE, He still used that name in the indipendent circut until October 2005 when Rikishi was forced to change his name to "Kishi" when WWE said that they own the rights to the name "Rikishi".
4.AJ Styles vs Petey Williams
A non-title finisher match between the men who will wrestle for the X Division title at Genesis. Petey williams won with the canadian destroyer.
5.Jeff Jarrett & America's Most Wanted vs Jeff Hardy & Lance Hoyt & Chris Sabin
Jeff Jarrett & AMW won at the end. Then while Jarrett & AMW beat up Hardy, Hoyt, and Sabin, Rhino & Team 3D come out to save Hardy, Hoyt, and Sabin. Besides TNA, Team 3D also wrestle in All Japan Pro Wrestling. One of the largest promotions in Japan that has Japanese wrestlers, and foreign wrestlers like former WWE wrestlers Jamal, D'Lo Brown, Bull Buchanan, A-Train, Chuck Palumbo, and Johnny Stamboli. Which Tag team titles will Team 3D win first? The Tag Team titles of an Indipendent promotion? The NWA World Tag Team Titles? or the AJPW All Asia Tag team titles?

Randy Orton keeps dropping in the power 25 ranks. He has a big chance to move up next week since he is one of the three who compete for the championship belt. But I do not think that he can will with his daddy who has made him look weak and gay. As StevenA and I mentioned earlier, we were curious why RO has not RKOed his daddy? In addition, what is the point to let the old fuck Bob Orton gets involved in RO's matches and keep him losing? Any explanations?

At 11/11/05 12:49 AM, MegaGold wrote:

At 11/11/05 12:12 AM, FlamingDeath911 wrote:

I got SD vs raw 2006 reserved it releases next tuesday which is 11/15

Day of Reckoning 2 is better. Better gameplay in my point of view.

Yeah but I am not buying a gamecude, I am sticking to the Sd series games

Well I suspect people thought it was going to really great after the 2hr special event. I hope to see Austin Aries in more matchs. The Aj and Petey match was a finisher match thats why they where attempting their finisher so much plus you saw he didnt pin him which was a dead give anyway. Double J damn him for making sabin lose well the midrope stoke was nice a little sloppy. Anyways Go Petey hopefully he will win today at Genesis.

I never heard of Monty Stopp(sp) plus I havent seen Kishi wrestle in tna impact.

Well we all say TNA and it was good. I still stick by my statment that the TNA guys do not yet have good mic skills. on a side note. the new WWE game comes out tomorrow in some stores and tuesday in others. I am sure some of you are wondering "Hey Ryo just posted. he has not done that in awhile. I miss his wigger rants and telling it like it is posts." Well folks there is 2 reasons why I have not been posting alot. 1. I am graduating college next month and my time is being used up by that. 2. I gave up all hope on the WWE. I used to watch it just for the bad factor just so I can post how it sucks ass. but I can't do that anymore. I cannot sit through 2 hours of mind numbing, watered down, mostly talk wrestling just to point out flaws. and since it is not enjoyable I would rather use those 2 hours to get some work done or read something. Honestly I kinda have a feeling as to why you guys watch it. because you guys are still in that "I have faith" stage where you think something will change and it will go back to being that WWE of old. truth is I had that period myself and that is why I stopped watching it. TNA is only 1 hour and that one hour is better then the combined 4 hours of wwe. (RAW, SD. 2 hours each) I know some of you are true WWE fans but youwill follow my path and you will come over to teh revolution. I watched WWE since I was a toddler. I was born in 83. so I got into wrestling when it was wrestling. where your blood raced and it was worth wathcing and such. avie is an old fuck too he knows what I am talking about. to see something that I have watched since childhood crumble and become what it is today is very sad

wwe? fuck that shit. iam old school. its all about the wwf back in the 90s and 80s and shit. with wrestlers like macho man randy savage, the ultimate warrior, hulk hogan(the original), andre the giant, you kno.

hell ya bring in doink,the old badass stonecold,and the best of all THE BLUE MEANIE

well DuMa, you have been watching longer than me (I was born in 83) I have been watching since the early 90's when the attitude era and teh monday night wars were going on. It was definatly a good time to be a wrestling fan. i am still a WWE faithful at heart even though I agree with you on how bad the product has been. It will get worse before it gets better as wwe is still at a loss for a mega star like they had in stone cold and the rock.

But think of it like this too. Despite how bad it has been, it's still better than WCW was at the end of it's run.

Anyway, TNA was good last night, I enjoyed the finisher vs finisher match. I wish jerrett would go away already as I have never liked him. ever. not when he was in wwe, wcw, or now.

At 11/13/05 09:46 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: But think of it like this too. Despite how bad it has been, it's still better than WCW was at the end of it's run.

No, that is Bullshit. WWE is exactly like WCW was at the end of the companies run. they are putting on a half assed show that is not appealing to anyone anymore. they had big stars and they make alot of money. the problem is that they flood the market with that star and you get sick of him. they flooded the market with stone cold, they flooded the market with the rock. and now they are flooding it with cena. they don't know how to do things in small steps. they just throw it at you full force and then you lose intrest.

Anyway, TNA was good last night, I enjoyed the finisher vs finisher match. I wish jerrett would go away already as I have never liked him. ever. not when he was in wwe, wcw, or now.

yeah, finsher vs finsher is cool. I like JJ for some reason. I mean he needs to stop being the champ every 3 seconds. but he does have the ring experience and the attitude to make a gopod champ and a great fued battle. I am telling you. after new years TNA will be a 2 hour show and they will hopefully go live. live is always better. but taped is ok when it is TNA cause they still show godo action. not like SD where it is taped, edited and such. and they still make it look like shit.

WTF! EDDIE DIED!!???

http://www.wwe.com/i../eddieguerreropasses

Eddie Guerrero passes away
Oct. 13, 2005

WWE is deeply saddened by the news that Eddie Guerrero has passed away. He was found dead this morning in his hotel room in Minneapolis. Eddie is survived by his wife Vickie and his two daughters.

Eddie Guerrero has just passed away.
(RIP)

WWE haven't revealed any details yet to the cause of death yet.

At 11/13/05 11:37 AM, AnzRage wrote: Eddie Guerrero passes away
Oct. 13, 2005

WWE is deeply saddened by the news that Eddie Guerrero has passed away. He was found dead this morning in his hotel room in Minneapolis. Eddie is survived by his wife Vickie and his two daughters.

Holy shit, that is deeply chilling. I just saw him last week on Smackdown. My god, condolences to his family and all of the WWE wrestlers. At least he ended his life as a popular wrestler and loved entertainer. I think i'm in shock.

oh shit, dude that sucks ass. eddie is a great wrestler. poor guy. he probably had a heart attack or some odd accident. that is life folks. you are hear 1 minute and gone the next. you know what this means for orton right? batista is out from his back and eddie is dead so by default orton is the champ.

I know, man that is so... FUCKING BASTARDIC!!!!!!! What do you think it was? Drug ovberdose? Complications after bleeding from the chair? Natural causes? Whatever it was, it was still FUCKING BASTARDIC!!! If this is one of Vince's dirty jokes, I ain't laughing! R.I.P Eddie.

I don't say this often but.... shit. Man this is so sudden i'm truly at a loss for words here. Eddie was one of my favorite wrestlers to watch, he was so cool. Damn... our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and many friends.

He had turned his life around from drug abuse and came back to become wwe champion. We will miss you Eddie.

Damn I am so shocked that Eddie is dead. Like most people I watched him last week but then today I learned that he died. Life is really precious. A healthy man in peak physical condition dies suddenly for no reason. . . hmmmmmmm I smell drugs or foul play.

Outlaw88, thanks for the TNA lowdown on Genesis. Also, TNA was awesome last night. Finisher vs. Finisher was the bomb. Course, we didnt get to see D'Amore's fat ass get AJ Styles finisher slapped on him.

But now I turn to what I just read. Eddie's death. It is deeply saddening as I had watched him as a kid in WCW (I idolized the damn guy in WCW), and followed him ever since. But, someone said October 13. I hope thats just a typo. But sad noneoftheless. While I hope the best for Eddie's family, I also wait for TNA Genesis tonight. Well, if anyone gets more information regarding this tragedy, please inform us (the club). Thank you.

R.I.P. Eddie.

i'm sure wwe will have tribute shows next week for him. Chavo, Benoit, Mysterio and many others have been like his family for many years. Damn.. i still can't belive it.

guys check up on wwe.com soon they will upload the video of the press confrence they had regarding eddie's death.