At 10/22/03 04:47 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote: Rikishi got old fast..... Its just the same thing every time.... How many times can a fat guy put his ass in someones face and dance???? Too many..... Its time for something fresh.....

And what would you suggest? Surely you have some idea on how to make Rikishi cool.

Im no lesnar fan. In fact im probably the last guy who would ever support him. But hardcore holly isnt anywhere near the level of lesnar.

Yeah, Lesnar alone sucks. Thats why Heyman's return is welcome. While he was gone, Lesnar and Show sucked. He made them cool once, he can do it again. And I think Holly calling out Brock is due to the fact that Brock broke Holly's neck.

And on a completely unrelated subject I think the Quebecers should come back and fight la resistance....

LOL, the funny thing is that La Resistance are Canadian. Whats funnier still is that only one (Grenier) is from Quebec. Dupree comes from New Brunswick! (If you didn't already know)

And as a send off, Kevin Nash's career is all but over, as his neck is in worse shape than Austin's was. He's going for surgery, but he may not be able to return to the ring.

What's wrong with Hardcore Holly and Rikisi? I have absolutly no problems with them..I was almost sure Rikish was gonna be a World Champ when he was uber popular. Holly is a good canidate for teh US title. Too bad I'm gonna miss Scotty's return..God I hate work.

At 10/22/03 08:25 PM, -Rook- wrote: And what would you suggest? Surely you have some idea on how to make Rikishi cool.

Well first I would tell him to stop being a fat samoan stereotype. then he has to stop being a fat dancer.... OH YEAH i would also ask him to showcase his talent....

OR.......

I would reform the headshinkers and if not that he could be the sultan again and then he could team up with kwang.....

At 10/22/03 10:31 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: What's wrong with Hardcore Holly and Rikisi?

Well Holly's problem is that he is a has been/never was. Maybe this storyline would be cool in 1996. The other problem- holly gets an undeserved push while Cena, Benoit, and Eddie remain out of the picture.....

And as for rikishi.... see my other posts....

Holly has just never been used right...I don't think it's going to be a push really, most likely he'll get beaten up again, get some sort of revenge, and then go about his mid-card buisness.

At 10/22/03 10:58 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote:

Well first I would tell him to stop being a fat samoan stereotype. then he has to stop being a fat dancer.... OH YEAH i would also ask him to showcase his talent....

OR.......

I would reform the headshinkers and if not that he could be the sultan again and then he could team up with kwang.....

that'd be cool. well, this isn't quite as good, but they could pair him with Ekmo (formerly Jamal) as the Fatu Bros. (correct me if I'm wrong, but he is Rikishi's little brother). I know someone'll probably say something along the lines of "Don't bring back that piece of crap, they should've canned Rosey with him." But i personally thought Jamal was the 3MW member with the most talent (if you don't include Rico as a member) and I hear that he's doing great as a TNA superstar (much better than Rosey and his SHiT). But that's just my opinion, and if he did come back, they'd probably just reform 3MW.

I don't think they are related, though I think Rosey and Jamal were..WWE most likely won't take him back but why when you could save Rosey from that shit gimmick. Course I don't mind Rikishi with scotty..They dance funny..

At 10/23/03 12:46 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I don't think they are related, though I think Rosey and Jamal were..WWE most likely won't take him back but why when you could save Rosey from that shit gimmick. Course I don't mind Rikishi with scotty..They dance funny..

Actually, I'm pretty sure almost all the Samoan Superstars are related in some way. The Wild Somoans, Rikishi, Rosey and Jamal, Yokozuna, The Rock. Their like one big family (or so I've heard)

Actually, I'm pretty sure almost all the Samoan Superstars are related in some way. The Wild Somoans, Rikishi, Rosey and Jamal, Yokozuna, The Rock. Their like one big family (or so I've heard)

Yeah all the samoan superstars are a big family.

It wouldn't surprise me really.

At 10/23/03 02:01 PM, pepeatumi wrote:

Yeah all the samoan superstars are a big family.

I think Rikishi and Jamal are brothers, their cousin is the Rock, Yokozuna was their uncle. I'm pretty sure Rosey is Afa son (though I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong and he's Sika's son) I just can't remember how the Soamoans and Rosey are related to Rikishi and Jamal

Hey y'all personaly i think that JCW and BYW are the best wrestling franchises in the world...you can't go wrong with hardcore wrestling...keep it real juggalos and juggalettes

Wh would win in a match assuming no outsider interferance and both wrestlers at 100%. Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar

And the Batista chair on Goldberg, thats old. Every one has done it in the past to someone. Its nothing new. Is NAthan JOnes gone for good though? I havent seen him in awhile.

At 10/23/03 07:48 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: Wh would win in a match assuming no outsider interferance and both wrestlers at 100%. Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar

three things:

1. Brock would kill goldberg.....

2. nathan jones is filming the movie "troy" with brad pitt

3. Please respond to my earlier questions for you. Everytime I ask you something you dont come around for a week......

LordKooler's "Smackdown!" review
1.Paul Heyman, The new general manager
Vince just tells everyone the new general manager is paul heyman. Then heyman talks about being the new general manager.
2.Chris benoit & Kurt angle vs John cena & A-train
A good match. But I liked the end where benoit & angle turn into enemies.
3.The world's greatest tag team vs Scotty 2 Hotty & Rikishi
Not bad. But it was a good comeback match for scotty & rikishi.
4.Los guerreros vs Basham brothers
That match wasn't that good. But it was cool to see the bashams win tag team gold.
5.Tajiri vs Zack gowan
Tajiri won the match by avoiding zack's moonsault
and using his kick finisher to win. That match was boring. It was kinda cool when the japanese mafia attacked zack.
6.Undertaker vs Brock lesnar & Big show
The main event of smackdown was good, But it always showed vince & sable watching the match.
When the undertaker won, Paul heyman came out and said that the match must continue. After the undertaker won by countout, Paul heyman said that the match is a no countout match. Then he said it was a no
dq match after the undertaker get hit by a chair by the big show

Aw, nah, man. You're selling Smackdown too short. For the first time in avery long time, I loved Smackdown. The main event kinda sucked, and the first five minutes of McMahon telling us he fucked Sable was something I could've lived without, but everything else was gold. Scotty and Rikishi look like they haven't missed a beat. They're just as entertaining as ever. The Guerrero/Basham match just owned. Latino Heat was on fire, essa. The Bashams put on a solid performance and I for one am glad to them with the belts. I could tell what would happen in the Benoit/Angle match, since they just don't get along, but it was still entertaining. This "Japanese Mafia" thing looks cool, but Tajiri just doesn't fit the picture. The other guys look ready to take care of business, while Tajiri is almost rat-like. Hell, I even though A-Train and Zach Gowen did great in their respective matches. Maybe if A-Train had an actual personality he might even go somewhere. Maybe he should consider tagging with Cena more often, since it was probably the talent surrounding him made him look good. And I just know no one will agree with this, but even the Taker/McMahon match doesn't even sound that bad. Maybe the quality of the rest of the show is just blinding me to the fact he's a McMahon, or the fact that its Buried Alive, but whatever.

At 10/23/03 10:07 PM, -Rook- wrote: And I just know no one will agree with this, but even the Taker/McMahon match doesn't even sound that bad. Maybe the quality of the rest of the show is just blinding me to the fact he's a McMahon, or the fact that its Buried Alive, but whatever.

The only good thing that will come of that match is that steph will interfere and help vince bury taker. Then taker will go away till mania and come back as the dead man.....

Also rugbymacdaddy was on for about 4 hours tonight and he couldnt answer my 1 simple question. what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

Rumor has it that Stephanie will return in the buried alive match only to cost Undertaker the match and align herself with Vince.

At 10/23/03 11:20 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Rumor has it that Stephanie will return in the buried alive match only to cost Undertaker the match and align herself with Vince.

i just said that.......

RIP Stu Hart

Hey wickid_clown_xiii do you want to join the club? If so I can get you a #. Also pick a wrestler to represent and put him/her in your BBS signature. Thanks.

I have no idea what's up with that guy..i don't think he stays on very long, or reads previous pages.

Hey rugbymacdaddy, I see your on now. Please respond to my earlier question for you. How many times do I have to fucking ask you? Just answer it. Its 1 simple question. You run around yaking about it and alluding to it, but you never actually say it. So just answer my question. Dont act like you dont see my posts....

At 10/16/03 11:58 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote:

At 10/16/03 09:18 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote:

Please reply to this and tell what it is that he does that others dont. Lesnar is stronger, everyone has a better arsenal of moves, everyone can do better interviews/promos..... I still dont see this hidden talent or whatever it is that makes you obsessed with goldberg.....

He can get the crowd up on their feet faster than most people, he doesnt have to do much to get the crowds all wrild up. His mere presence is enough to sell tickets.

HHH deserved the hype. He recovered from such a devastating injury. But beyond that he is one of, if not the top guy in the business. Anything goldberg can do HHH can do better.

Triple H in my opinon is overhyped. If he is so great why must he repeatedly get DQ so he can retain the title. BUt your intitled to your opinon.

Ummmmm that "jackhammer" on mark henry wasnt even a real one. It was just a suplex. I mean kurt angle and lesnar have done more impressive thingd to the big show..... OH WOW!!!! he put some guy through a rigged security wall. thats what i call impressive. Youre comparing him to michaels, foley and others who do real high spots and insane manuvers. Going through a fake wall is nothing..... You must be easily impressed..... I still dont see how anyone could be impressed with henry vs goldberg. it was one of the worst matches ever.

IM assuming your refering to the Angel slam and F-% that have been given to the Big Show. If I rememeber right (I may be wrong) they just got him up and then down very quickly. Goldberg walked around the ring holding up Henry the second time. And I know he doesnt do insane moves like foley, but he has a differnt style than foley, he is more of a powerhouse wrestler, while foley is a risk taker.

That was the most phoney-balognay streak ever. For Christs sake they counted his wins at house shows. WHo does that? Another thing about that run, who did he beat along the way? Hugh morrus 10x? Virgil 6x? Glacier 8x? you make it sound like he beat the cream of the crop. well he didnt. A diamond in the rough? bullshit! more like the dirt surrounding flowers.

What about when he beat Hogan for the title, was Hogan not the cream of the crop back then?

and once again im forced to ask: are you goldbergs mom or an obsessed homosexual fan?

I am neither Goldbergs mom nor am I homosexual, but asking that question makes it sound like perhaps you are in denial about your own sexuality.

Also please stop posting if you are only going to make false claims and tell lies. I have no problem when people are fans of anyone, but when you start to make shit up about them, thats to much....

What have I said that wasnt true. He did go undefeated for a very long time, he did win titles, I never claimed he has a massive arsenal of moves, I siad he brings to the table what alot of superstars dont, the ability to excite the crowds. I never siad he was the best, actually I believe I referd to him as a diamond in the rough.

EX: big show is the most agile wrestler in history!

or
La Parka has the best promos ever!

Well I never said either of those things.

it sounds like bullshit and I hope you realize you sound like shit when you tell tales of things that never happened.

I dont believe I have made up any facts in my posts.

Perhaps I can shed some insight on why I believe one thing and you believe another. It seems you break down wrestling it technicalities and over analyze it, when in fact it is just a show, and is ment to be watched not have an essay written about how each person preforms. When you look at it from the spot of your commion everyday fan, Goldberg is much better than how you portray him. But you are entitled to see things however you wish as am I.

I am no more than a fan, I am not a critic of the WWE, I havent even gotten a single PPV. I base agruements on what I see and feel. IF you think you are so much more intelligent then me why dont you come over to the political forum and duke it out with me there on real world issues, like gay marriage, gun control and international politics.

2 Words can accureately describe Smackdown last night...

GOD DAMN(Yes I know its actually one word but...eh)

Man that was one of the Best Smackdown!'s I have seen in quite sometime.Scotty returning, Hardcore planing to kill Brock, Brock and Show vs Taker......Classic match.Now I can't wait to see next weeks.....

At 10/23/03 11:19 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote:

The only good thing that will come of that match is that steph will interfere and help vince bury taker. Then taker will go away till mania and come back as the dead man.....

aw, shit. I really hoped that that screechy bitch would stay off the air. She is by far the worst McMahon. At least Shane can do crazy shit in the ring, and Vince is...well Vince. And Linda is rarely on TV. But Stephanie sucks (as I'm sure Hunter's aware of) Plus, if they do that, it will completely undermine the entire angle they built up over the last 2 or 3 monthes, with Steph hating her father and him trying to force her to quite. You just can't magically resolve all that.
Anyway, I've got a hypothetical question: If WWE were and TNA were to trade two superstars, who would you want traded? I would pick Tommy Dreamer (so he could get the push he deserves) and AJ Styles (I've never seen TNA, so I'd be curious to see if Styles is really all that. And unless TNA goes to cable, I'd need him to be in WWE)

At 10/24/03 04:58 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: He can get the crowd up on their feet faster than most people, he doesnt have to do much to get the crowds all wrild up. His mere presence is enough to sell tickets.

Well again thats a half truth. The rock does it better than anyone, as well as the fact that the goldberg cheering is canned... So yes the crowd is loud but it is from the speakers.....

Triple H in my opinon is overhyped. If he is so great why must he repeatedly get DQ so he can retain the title.

Thats just part of the story line. Who hasnt HHH beaten?

IM assuming your refering to the Angel slam and F-% that have been given to the Big Show. If I rememeber right (I may be wrong) they just got him up and then down very quickly. Goldberg walked around the ring holding up Henry the second time. And I know he doesnt do insane moves like foley, but he has a differnt style than foley, he is more of a powerhouse wrestler, while foley is a risk taker.

No. Goldbergs "jackhammer" on herny was the fastest one ever. "walked him around the ring"??? Did we watch the same match? Yes goldberg is a powerhouse, but with his limited arsenal, and his constant blowing spots and injurying guys he doesnt have the finesse, or prowess of a half decent wrestler....

Does anyone else remember goldberg "walking henry around the ring" when he had him the the jackhammer? please speak up im interested to know....

What about when he beat Hogan for the title, was Hogan not the cream of the crop back then?

No, hogan hasnt been in his prime since the mid to late 80's. He is still entertaining but not talented...

I am neither Goldbergs mom nor am I homosexual, but asking that question makes it sound like perhaps you are in denial about your own sexuality.

no my sexuality is not in question. You are the one who posts here once a week about the supreme greatest of goldberg. Its weird, you come in here and tell lies about the man.... It just made people speculate....

What have I said that wasnt true. He did go undefeated for a very long time, he did win titles, I never claimed he has a massive arsenal of moves, I siad he brings to the table what alot of superstars dont, the ability to excite the crowds. I never siad he was the best, actually I believe I referd to him as a diamond in the rough.

do you know what a diamond in the rough means? it means something great surrounded by bullshit. you can honestly say that benoit, y2j, HHH, angle, cena, lesnar, eddie, and rvd to name a few are the rough to goldbergs diamond? youre full of shit.... and again yes he did go undeafeated for a long time, but who did he beat:

La parka 11x
Mongo McMichael 13x
glacier ??x
virgil ??x
Prince iyakya 17x
hugh morrus 9x

wow! what a streak! yes he did win titles but who did he beat? saturn? an aging hulk hogan? and again that crowd excitement can never be proven because they used canned cheering to get him over and keep him there.....

I dont believe I have made up any facts in my posts.

well yes you did.....

When you look at it from the spot of your commion everyday fan, Goldberg is much better than how you portray him. But you are entitled to see things however you wish as am I.

definetly we are entitled to our opinions. You can like him whatever. GREAT. but opinions and facts are different and you seem to blur the two. Also I dont portray him in any fashion other than what I see on raw. Bad matches, limited moves, poor mic skills, and too much hype....

At 10/24/03 05:01 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: IF you think you are so much more intelligent then me why dont you come over to the political forum and duke it out with me there on real world issues, like gay marriage, gun control and international politics.

I never said i was more intelligent than you. And also i used to post there but it gets redundant because its the same topics, over and over and over and everyone just restates what someone else says.... but i guess your pro gay marriage so that you and goldberg can hook up right? ;)

Hey, i was wondering, Is the fude between Angle and Cena over yet? I hope it is

At 10/24/03 05:07 PM, -Rook- wrote: If WWE were and TNA were to trade two superstars, who would you want traded?

I would trade goldberg (because he sucks) for Jeff jarret (becasue he is awesome). Jarrett is the man. He would have owned wwf/wcw if they didnt make him a hokey country music/hillbilly asshole. BUt then again i dont know if I could trade goldberg, he is just that bad. Thats like wishing someone to get cancer. I dont know if anyone deserves that.....