At 9/30/05 04:15 PM, cornontheconn wrote: And for TNA's premiere on Spike, does it show it live, like 11PM eastern time would play 8 PM western time (my timezone) or does it play at 11 for east then 3 hours later it plays at 11 for west too?

TNA is taped ahead of time and then run on Saturdays. So I imagine that it'll be like any other show that runs at 11 here, and airs at the equivalent time out west, but double check your tv guide to be sure.

just make sure you have the times right. I'm really not sure if it will be different in other time zones.

Tonight was Orlando's best match for a while. The double power bomb was pretty cool.

And a good ending for me, too, with Batista getting pulled on Mercury. Good to see Eddie make the save for Batista, too. Guess Eddie's honest about his friendship with Batista after all.

Omg Eddie is acting so gay with Batista. They should be a couple.

At 10/1/05 01:20 AM, AnzRage wrote: Omg Eddie is acting so gay with Batista. They should be a couple.

lol u meen buttsecks// ololz tahtz crzy

Let us all do a jig in the name of jebus for tonight TNA is on spike. the suck part? it is only 1 hour long.

At 10/1/05 07:22 AM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: Let us all do a jig in the name of jebus for tonight TNA is on spike. the suck part? it is only 1 hour long.

Oh, well, damn. It'll suck even more if they have as much commercial time as WWE does...

At 9/28/05 06:29 PM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: TNA is this saturday. that is right folks. 3 days from now we will be able to see what true wrestling looks like

Only a few hours away. Did you watch tna on fsn? I going to start up my tna impact reviews hopefully using the same format if anyone remembers them.

At 9/30/05 01:31 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Yeah, there's the possibility of them just repackaging Euguene quietly and expecting the fans not to remember him, or they can try and shoot an angle with him getting into some "accident" that makes him smarter, or (and it's really the easiest and most obvious explanation) they just turn him heel, and say he faked the whole thing to get sympathy and attention and point to all the stuff he got to accomplish by making people think he was "special"

They could do something stupid like have Eugene get hit by some books on the head. Then in serious voice say I am smarter now or whatever then make a new gimmick.

At 9/30/05 04:15 PM, cornontheconn wrote: And for TNA's premiere on Spike, does it show it live, like 11PM eastern time would play 8 PM western time (my timezone) or does it play at 11 for east then 3 hours later it plays at 11 for west too?

I think its recorded on thursday but not sure when it plays on the west coast.

At 9/30/05 10:42 PM, LordKooler wrote: 3.Undertaker vs "Cowboy" Bob orton
Undertaker sent a message to both ortons before the match at No mercy by defeating Bob orton Jr.

I liked the part where taker blocked the rko it wasnt just before he jumps it was it mid air and he went flying. So is the casket match going to have two caskets for both ortons for taker to win.

5.Bobby Lashley vs Jobber
And he will wrestle Simon dean at No mercy.

That will be a filler

6.Batista & Eddie guerrero vs LOD
MNM interfered and attacked LOD causing LOD to win by DQ.

The ending was great vintage eddie. lmao )

At 10/1/05 07:22 AM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: Let us all do a jig in the name of jebus for tonight TNA is on spike. the suck part? it is only 1 hour long.

Being hr long isnt the suck part thats how it was before. Its going to suck if Petey doesn't pull off the candian destoryer.

well maybe if they do well, the show can be extended. It is kinda bad they only have a hour.

At 10/1/05 11:47 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: well maybe if they do well, the show can be extended. It is kinda bad they only have a hour.

not really, it is a trail run. like piolt episodes of shows. they test it first to see how it does then if it get's a following they will extend it

Well, SD was ok. That was funny how the end of the LOD vs Batista and Eddie played out. But other than that, it was mediocre. Now, I'm gonna watch TNA tonight. Because I never saw it before, whats this thing all about? Who's all in it? Also, two days remain before RAW hits USA. I still wonder why it moved to Spike Tv in the first place. Guess I'll never know...ah well, about 8 hours before TNA.

At 10/1/05 12:19 PM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: not really, it is a trail run. like piolt episodes of shows. they test it first to see how it does then if it get's a following they will extend it

I have to agree, even the time slot here on Saturday's seems to be Spike testing out how well this product can do, and if it can build a following, but I do believe if they can get that word of mouth going (and the show tonight looks pretty damn good and stacked) then I do believe that they will not only get that extra hour, but that Saturdays will be the replay show, and that mondays will become when it's first run. I'm sure Spike would love to start a new Monday Night War and begin pantsing Vince after the way he left.

At 10/1/05 12:01 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: ".Bobby Lashley vs Jobber
Bobby Lashley crushed the Jobber. And he will wrestle Simon dean at No mercy."

wait... what in the world... they are actually putting that as a PPV match? Are they that out of it that they give this match? what the hell?

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Seriously. I cannot understand why they put it at No mercy. Simon Dean sucks and he is even not a wrestler.

The Hardy Boyz were the best ever Swanton Bomb and Hardy Boyz Leg Drop

damnit... Of all nights.. when I really wanted to watch tv my cable goes out... Figures huh? Please somebody review TNA tonight. I really want to know what you guys thought and how it was.

On a side note, I picked up the book "The Death of WCW" so far it's a really good read.

Good match U.S. Champion Chris Benoit takes on William Regal in Velocity's main event.

Oh, nobody reviewed TNA yet? Hah. It played at 8 for me just now, so I saw it.

I'm not too excited about any of the characters yet, since it's so new. I still prefer WWE over TNA, but TNA certainly more innovative fight choreography. AJ Styles, the X Division Champion, came up first against a jobber and put on quite a show. Despite outside distraction, he pulled off a win.

Monty Brown defeated another jobber. Nothing interesting there.

The three way match was my favorite. Clever shift of fight focus. Idk the winner's name, but I think it was something like Saben.

Jeff Hardy won against Rhino by DQ, but Rhino and his friend were both cleared out by some guy who showed up when the lights went out.

On another note, DAMN, TNA's got a tiny little crowd.

Ok here it goes, TNA was bad ass. I mean it was 100 times better then any shit the WWE can do. their were no shity storylines, no mindless banter going on, no predictable things. just pure kick ass action. and with a start like that within 2 months they will get 2 hours and it will mean more ass kicking. The WWE better shape up cause TNA is here

At 10/1/05 11:57 PM, cornontheconn wrote: Oh, nobody reviewed TNA yet? Hah. It played at 8 for me just now, so I saw it.

i will do the tna impact reviews I done them in the past So I will start up agian.

Tna Impact Review for 10/1/05 SpikeTV debut.

AJ Styles vs. Rider Strong Winner: AJ by Styles clash. Aj would control most of the match at the beginning. Daniels (Aj oppnent at bound for glory) would distract him. But it didn’t last long until AJ hit the styles clash you may remember it as the crash landing.

A promo for Alpha Male Monty Brown was shown. It was basically him saying the opponent would get Poooooooooooooouuuuuuunced Period.

Alpha Male vs. Jobber Winner: Monty Brown by Pounce. A squash match. Just to show the pounce to the new spike viewers. With FSN you had that fox box which showed the names of contenders and time I hope spike rips that off.

Petey Williams vs. Alex Shelley vs. Chris Sabin Winner: Sabin by Cradle Shock. An excellent X division match. The start of the match had Petey and Shelley working together. Sabin just before the break managed to keep alive and hit asai moonsault knocking both opponents. The match continues after the break with Petey in control giving DDT to Sabin then Shelley worked over Sabin and went for pin. Petey broke it up and they fought each other. Near the end of the match Petey sets up for the Canadian destroyer on Shelley. Sabin catches him and hit a running powerbomb (le tigre). Shelley would get some various kicks in but not enough to take Sabin out. He would get the victory. But after the match Petey hit the Canadian destroyer awesome move. (The reason I put petey Williams in my signature back when impact was on fsn.)

Jeff Hardy v. Rhino Winner: No contest. Rhino would attack Jeff while he was cheering for the crowd. A fairly decent match. It went back and forth. Skip to end nothing good happen in between. Rhino goes for the gore and misses but Jeff get twist of fate. Abyss come and attacks Jeff. The gets a chair by his manager I guess. Rhino takes it for him self. Then the lights went out Sabu the helps clear the ring. Jeff and Sabu would perform over the top rope moves on rhino and abyss.

Jeff Jarret Double J with AMW came to ring. Celebrating his title victory. Team Canada coach Da’More was in the plan to. Da’More is basically the biggest heel manager in tna. Well 3LK came out to interrupt JJ. (You have to see Ron the Truth Killing in a match he awesome if you haven’t) JJ says to fight so the go to ring and exchange punches. Team Canada help out JJ and AMW. Team 3D which is now what they are called I didn’t catch bubba name but AMW got the Dudley death drop. JJ escaped to find Nash come to the entrance. He goes back in ring and gets a wassup (I think its called that.) and a jackknife powerbomb. Next week a tag match of them is scheduled.

Shifting gears I watched the Road Warriors dvd and in the early matches you would be DQ if you threw the opponent over the top rope outside the ring or performed a top rope move. Who made those rules up and what for?

I just watched TNA Impact on Spike TV and it was awesome. I would like to do a review.
LordKooler's TNA Impact review
1.AJ Styles vs Roderick Strong
A great X Division match to start off the first episode of Impact on Spike TV. During the match Christopher Daniels, Who will wrestle AJ Styles for the X Division title at Bound for Glory, Came out and watched the match. AJ Styles won at the end.
2."Alpha Male" Monty Brown vs Jobber
Nothing much to say about this one. Monty Brown crushed the jobber.
3.Petey Williams vs Chris Sabin vs Alex Shelley
TNA Impact's best match on it's first night on Spike TV. The X division is TNA's Cruiserweight division and it's better than Smackdown's cruiserweight division. This was an exiting and high flying match. Chris Sabin won at the end. Petey Williams' Canadian crusher finisher is awesome.
4.Jeff Hardy vs Rhino
Rhino, Who wrestled as Rhyno in WWE but never had a singles push there, Came to TNA after his release from WWE using the name "Rhino". The name he used in ECW. In TNA Rhino has gotten a big push, He joined Jeff Jarrett's stable Planet Jarrett and feuded with then NWA Champion Raven when he first came to TNA but lost to Raven at Unbreakable last month. Rhino's opponent is Jeff Hardy, Jeff's brother Matt is fueding with Edge on RAW. Jeff Hardy won by DQ after Abyss interfered and attacked Jeff. Then the lights go out and Sabu appears in the ring when the lights go back on. Then Sabu & Jeff Hardy attack Abyss & Rhino. There will be a fatal four way between Jeff Hardy, Sabu, Abyss, and Rhino at Bound for glory. I think there will be a tag team match with Jeff Hardy & Sabu against Abyss & Rhino on next week's TNA impact.
5.Jeff Jarrett segment
The Controversy in canada. Jeff jarrett defeated Raven for the NWA title with help from America's most wanted and Scott D'amore at the canadian indy promotion Border city wrestling last month. Jarrett came out with Planet jarrett members America's most wanted, but the other two members of Planet Jarrett Rhino & Kip James weren't in the ring. Jarrett talks about how he created TNA 3 years ago but then 3 live kru come out and Konnan and says that Jarrett didn't create TNA, The fans did. Then Jarrett, America's most wanted, and Team canada attacked 3LK. Then the team formally known as the Dudley boyz, Team 3D came out and attacked America's most wanted & Team canada and were about to attack jarrett and when Jarrett was leaving the ring, Kevin nash came out and Jarrett returned to the ring. Causing him to be attacked by Team 3D and Kevin Nash. Nash will wrestle Jeff Jarrett for the NWA title at Bound for glory and Team 3D will wrestle America's most wanted next week on impact.

At 10/2/05 12:44 AM, iscRulz wrote: Shifting gears I watched the Road Warriors dvd and in the early matches you would be DQ if you threw the opponent over the top rope outside the ring or performed a top rope move. Who made those rules up and what for?

Back then the business was still in the closet about being a work. They did not want guys jumping off the top rope or going over the ropes like in the Mexican promotions because a) a lot of guys couldn't do it and b) the rule of thumb was "if you don't use it in a real fight, you don't use it here because you will expose the worked nature of the business". Now it's like performing art, back at that point though, it was more like physical competition, and also they were a lot more concerned with protecting each other and their bodies. There were also rules about heels and babyfaces associating outside of the business, which you can read a bit more about in books by legends like Flair and Funk, some of the stories are downright weird like Flair having to MOVE because his next door neighbor was his hated rival in story lines.

I think TNA had a good debut overall, I hear some complaint over the squash matches, but the fact is, Monty Brown and AJ Styles are two of the top guys in the company, and letting them work squashes helps to establish that in the eyes of the fans. I also liked the segments that ran through the show explaining some of the finer points of the product, TNA needed, and still needs, to show it's audience what they do differently from Vince, they did a good job of that tonight, and having AMW facing Team 3D next week should give us a very good indication of something Vince dosen't have, and will need to build up over time: A strong tag team division.

I was very impressed by TNA at Unbreakable, and I thought that they did a lot right with the TV taping, some people might have wanted them to blast out of the box much stronger, but the slow and steady approach is what's going to win viewership I feel. I also heard some complaints about the size of The Impact Zone. Frankly, it's like having their own ECW Arena, it's a home base, it's small, and it's going to be more cost effective to them to have a home base, with a rabid loyal crowd, rather then run larger buildings they can't afford, and have seats they can't fill. I think the Impact Zone and a full, hot house, is much better then just about any crowd Vince attracts, where he is never selling out anymore unless it's something like Wrestlemania.

Did they blow the doors off? No, but they came out of the blocks very strongly I feel, and as long as they continue to differentiate from Vince's product, TNA should become a viable and healthy alternative.

man I had really wanted to see it too. Thanks for the reviews!

Ok, so today I got my hands on the ulitmate warrior DVD. Let me just say it was really good. I hear alot of people saying "oh it is just a huge bashing on teh warrior" well think of it this way. I am going to be a teacher in january. if I didn't to my job the school board would not keep paying me just cause the kids like me. the warrior got paid to go out and wrestle and be a star which he took for granted, neevr learned the in ring workings and was a total ass. The man took advantage of his fame and made it so that when he got big enough he could do what he did at summerslam 91 and hold up the main event for more money. vince gave him 3 chances and he blew it everytime. the man had no real ring talent, his finsher sucked ass, and when he cut a promo it was a long ramble that sounds something you would hear if the Apacolypse was coming. the warrior had it all and pissed it away. he shouldn't be running around bicthing just cause he doesn't have anything now.

As for TNA, I never saw tna before last night and I was happy as hell with what I was shown. you hardcore fans of TNA know more then me so if you have complaints I am sure they are valid on some level but like I said, last night just like the next month is a trial run for them. if they can build a huge following and get ratings then TNA will get a 2 hour time slot, more fans will be their, more money will be made, which means more tna for all. and with the addition of the dudleys they will get a big following, not to mention teh fact that TNA is the only place where tag team wrestling is still good. WWE sank all their tag teams and that division is a joke. by the by who was that guy, the canidain dude who did that move called the canidain crusher? dude that was uber fucking great. I mean I never saw anything like that.

Well that is Ryo's two cents on everything. Believe you me folks, last night was the begining of suck-free wrestling and the day will come where TNA will beat out WWE in ratings and in Fan enjoyment.

At 10/1/05 01:20 AM, AnzRage wrote: Omg Eddie is acting so gay with Batista. They should be a couple.

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And get married.

What I like best about TNA is there use of the talented workers in their X division. They do a much better job showing teh smaller guys that WWE does. The Canadian destroyer is a kickass move

I have three things to respond to:

Warrior thing: I agree with what you said about him blowing his chances Ryo, but to criticize his promos like they, and you are doing, seems a bit hypocritical to me when you stop and think about it, Hulk Hogan's promos were just as over the top and out there at the height of his popularity, but because Hogan never pissed the company off, and most people love him, no one is going to say they were bad or ineffective. Go check out early Wrestlemanias and you'll see what I mean.

TNA: I think that if hardcore fans found something lacking in last nights show, they should look at the fact that someone like Ryo, who never saw the product before, watched, liked it, and is going to continue watching. That's the goal after all.

Who did dat move?: I believe, and if I'm wrong, and I certainly could be since this was only my second TNA viewing, that it was Petey Williams, Is, can you help clarify that for us?

PETEY WILLIAMS (TEAM CANADA)
HEIGHT: 5'7" WEIGHT: 180 lBS HOMETOWN: Windsor, Ontario, Canada FINISHER: The Canadian Destroyer

you are correct sir.

At 10/2/05 09:44 PM, Dream_of_Duke wrote:

At 10/1/05 01:20 AM, AnzRage wrote: Omg Eddie is acting so gay with Batista. They should be a couple.

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And get married.

and have rough gai anal secks.

At 10/3/05 01:00 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Who did dat move?: I believe, and if I'm wrong, and I certainly could be since this was only my second TNA viewing, that it was Petey Williams, Is, can you help clarify that for us?

I first saw petey williams in indy show he did that move I nearly spewed my drink I couldn't tell what it was. They called it the discovery driver. When tna went on the air I found out he was on there and thought I hope he does his finisher. This could be the most devasting finisher in my eyes imagine if a heavyweight on wwe did that it would be like the tombstone rko and pedigree combined nobody would kick out.

Another person like a said before to look for is Ron Killings in 3LK I think its a shining wizard he does sometimes but its awesome. Also Kid Kash not there any more had a double underhook pileedriver and Daniels finisher angel crusher (name?) is good too.

Tonight...

GAME ON!