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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-30 19:06:59


At 12/30/04 03:12 PM, Iscrulz wrote: In seaon mode you start with 2 on each attribute and you work your way to the oringal not 100 sucks balls so theres no point of doing many season with different superstars to get the pionts up, so just use the same guy get every thing unlock the rake up the (wwe logo) cash and buy exp. points for your caw. Plus Cena does talk during seaon mode is it the same with yous.

cena talks as your superstar, or as the opponent, because i thought all the opponents did, and your own never does

I was watching the ecw dvd and sandman v. mickey whipwreck for the title and some guy named Steve Austin comes out and talks and stuff I think its stone cold but I am not sure.

Did the guy have blonde hair, i think i saw a picture of him like that: http://www.gerweck.net/stunningsteve.jpg
and it says that he was in the ecw like this: http://www.gerweck.net/austinecw.jpg

I was looking for the brainbreaker to use but I could find it so its vertabreaker now. Fire thunder = rikishi driver Cyclone=F5 or they could call it torando but to much confusiion with t. ddt t. armbreaker etc

i hate the names changing. Vertabraker is good though, thats what it was called in the wcw. I was hoping that the fire thunder would be something good like a sit out tombstone, not the crappy rikishi driver.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-30 21:26:07


Lordkooler's Smackdown Review
1.John cena vs Rene dupree rating:***1/2
A decent match to start off Smackdown. John cena comes out with his new look United States championship and gives his fans a new name, the chain crew. John cena won at the end.
2.Kurt angle vs Matt Stryker rating:**
Kurt angle should stop doing this competition where he wrestles the hometown hero from at city that Smackdown is taped in. Kurt angle won at the end.
3.JBL vs Shannon moore rating:**1/2
JBL picks out a name of a wrestler that he is going to wrestle for the WWE championship. But when he picks out the name, He gets a little worried that it might be someone like John cena, Big show, or Kurt angle. But JBL smiled after tony chimmel announced that Shannon Moore was gonna wrestle him for the WWE title. Because all the names in the jar had "Shannon moore." So Theodore long makes a triple threat match for the WWE title at Royal rumble. It will be between JBL, Kurt angle, and the big show.
4.Heidenreich segment rating:***1/2
A decent segment. heidenreich talks about the Undertaker until the lights go out and these guys bring out a coffin. When Heidenreich opens it, The Undertaker is inside! It's similar to the mind games that the Undertaker played on Kane before Wrestlemania XX.
5.Funaki vs Spike dudley rating:***1/2
A decent match. FUnaki won at the end.
6.Eddie guerrero & Booker T vs RVD & Rey mysterio rating:****
A great match to end the last Smackdown of 2004. Rey & RVD won at the end.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 02:43:30


At 12/30/04 03:12 PM, Iscrulz wrote: I was watching the ecw dvd and sandman v. mickey whipwreck for the title and some guy named Steve Austin comes out and talks and stuff I think its stone cold but I am not sure.

Yeah, that's Stone Cold before he became Stone Cold. Austin had a brief stint in ECW which was mostly based around him blasting WCW for not recognizing his talents and the cowardly way Eric Bischoff fired him (on his answering machine, while he was recupping an injury he suffered while working for WCW). Paul Heyman says on the Rise and Fall of ECW he wanted to hand Austin the world title, but that Austin was smarter then he was saying that he should lose to Heyman's top guys to give them a rub. It also beyond that speaks well of Austin and how unselfish he was there, since he was something of a name, and could have come in there and used his friendship with Paul to run roughshod and suck the place dry trying to make himself palatable to Vince, many guys have done it before.

Austin credits his time in ECW with teaching him how to talk, I think also it showed him that a version of his real life attitude could be marketed to a certain audience when he saw how wildly over the Sandman was for drinking and smoking and playing a common man character (which Austin later used to incredible effect in the WWE).


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 12:06:20


well since this is the last day of 04 what do you guys think was the best and the worst of this year?

Best: Benout and Eddie's title wins

Worst: I had some trouble narrowing it down, but I have to go with the Kane/Lita pregnancy thing.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 12:32:28


the best of the year: Randy orton's breaking away from evolution, shelton benjamin beating triple h
twice

the worst of the year: the ridicuously long title reigns of triple h and particularly, JBL.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 12:36:12


definatly good picks right there.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 12:50:52


At 12/31/04 12:36 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: definatly good picks right there.

My picks? i was hoping for hhh to get beat on raw, and not even go into the elim chamber, then shelton would still be unbeaten against him, but then we wouldnt get to see hbk screw him over at nyr. Why was randy peed off that hbk was ref? have they ever had rivalies?
Anywayz, happy new year to everyone, i hope the new year brings a better champion on BOTH shows

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 12:50:52


Best of 2004:
Triple H tapping out to Benoit's Crossface.
Randy Orton's face push and the disintegration of Evolution
Stone Cold leaves the company
Bradshaw turns it around and becomes a decent superstar and champion
Eugene

Worst of 2004:
The Diva Search
The releases of Johnny Stamboli, Chuck Palumbo, and most of the decent female wrestlers
Sheriff Stone Cold
Jacqueline as CW champion
Booker T's heel push on SD

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 14:47:29


I had almost forgotten:

WWE's massive roster cutdown has to go done on the list to. I mean Gail Kim's theme is on the new cd and she was released a little before the cd came out. how messed up is that?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 15:00:21


At 12/31/04 12:50 PM, -Rook- wrote: Best of 2004:
Triple H tapping out to Benoit's Crossface

agreed

Randy Orton's face push and the disintegration of Evolution

agreed

Stone Cold leaves the company

as a gm or commish yes, but if he could come back and wrestle it would be good

Bradshaw turns it around and becomes a decent superstar and champion

bradshaw is terrible and unentertaining....

Eugene

no way eugene got old fast, i mean wheres is his characrter gonna go?

good things you forgot:
brock lesnar leaving, a trains gone, SD vs RAW video game

Worst of 2004:
The Diva Search

this was awesome because the chics were super hot...

The releases of Johnny Stamboli, Chuck Palumbo, and most of the decent female wrestlers

i could care less for those bums

Sheriff Stone Cold

agreed this was bad

Jacqueline as CW champion

agreed stupid idea...

Booker T's heel push on SD

agreed.... the company took a turn for the worst when the didnt give booker the belt over triple H at mania a while back...

the worst thing of all: they still havent remerged the rosters...

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 15:46:29


I think I agree with everybody's lists (except the JBL being a decent champ and character, his character is pretty good, but he's never meant to be a champion, I'm sorry, he just wasn't). The hands down best moment for me is Benoit's title win at WMXX, because no matter what happens to Benoit in his career from here on it, he always has that moment, and that win, and there's no way that can be taken away from him.

I also want to put The Rise and Fall of ECW on the list. It was awesome to not only be able to watch the DVD and hear all these guys who I loved and respected as some of the best ever in ECW, and the industry in some cases speak with such love and devotion still to ECW and it's fans four years later, but it was also great to have them on show up on Byte This after the DVD's release, and hell, we even heard from Beulah again! The only negative on that release is that Tommy and Coach doing schtick through it, and Tommy lying saying he didn't know whatever happened to Beulah (he married her).

I think the bar none worst thing was the roster cuts, I admit some of those people frankly just needed cutting, I hate to see people unemployed but, they had never drawn money or really meant much to the company (with the exception of A-Train and Test who did have a couple periods of semi-prominence), but Rico, Jazz, and Gail Kim definitely didn't deserve to be fired, they tried hard, and I think were just victims of the (un)creative team's inability to do anything with them.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 16:56:25


At 12/31/04 03:00 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote: as a gm or commish yes, but if he could come back and wrestle it would be good

Only if it's a short term commitment to put other talent over, alot like Mick Foley did.

bradshaw is terrible and unentertaining....

Bradshaw WAS terrible and unentertaining. Since being repackaged as JBL, he has turned it around in a big way and become an enjoyable character. I just think some people are to bitter over the fact that he got such a meteoric push taht they adamantly refuse to see his improvement.

no way eugene got old fast, i mean wheres is his characrter gonna go?

So what if it doesn't have staying power? It still has some steam left in it, and in 2004, it was one of the bright spots.

good things you forgot:
brock lesnar leaving, a trains gone, SD vs RAW video game

I didn't forget them. Lesnar leaving kinda sucked, but I still wouldn't want him back due to the circumstances. A-Train had finally started to make inring improvements and could've gone somewhere (he could be in Tomko's position, since Tomko ain't that hot yet), but the cut his push right at the wrong time. And wrestling video games all suck. I have yet to play one that catches my interest.

this was awesome because the chics were super hot...

How can someone criticize JBL, then approve of this waste of airtime. I have no objection to hot women when they have some inring talent to add to the women's division, or make a good manager, but all these women are cut from the same cloth as Torrie Wilson and Stacy Kiebler: No charisma, no talent, no reason for them to have jobs in Sports Entertainment.


The releases of Johnny Stamboli, Chuck Palumbo, and most of the decent female wrestlers
i could care less for those bums

How were they bums exactly? They had decent inring talent and could've helped out the tag division. Hell, Palumbo had semimainevent-mainevent potential with the right gimmick, but the wasted him, like they did with Sean O'Haire. I suppose by your definition, then guys like Rhyno, Shannon Moore or Stevie Richards are bums too, just because creative can't find them a niche?

the worst thing of all: they still havent remerged the rosters...

That's a terrible idea. Without the brand split, do you think that new talents would get a chance to go as far they do? Guys like Benjamin? Do you honestly think the CW division would even exist? No, because everything would be taken up by the upper echelon of Triple H, Kurt Angle, HBK, Benoit, Guerrero, Big Show, Undertaker, and so on. Randy Orton and John Cena would still be in the undercard in minor feuds. They'd be stuck at Christian's current level AT BEST.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2004-12-31 17:19:08


At 12/31/04 04:56 PM, -Rook- wrote:
At 12/31/04 03:00 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote: as a gm or commish yes, but if he could come back and wrestle it would be good
Only if it's a short term commitment to put other talent over, alot like Mick Foley did.

im fine with austin coming back in almost any capacity

bradshaw is terrible and unentertaining....
Since being repackaged as JBL, he has turned it around in a big way and become an enjoyable character.

i dont think he has turned it around at all. he is the same wrestler, they just allow him to wrestle the top talent now.... so maybe to you he over by association....

no way eugene got old fast, i mean wheres is his characrter gonna go?
So what if it doesn't have staying power? It still has some steam left in it, and in 2004, it was one of the bright spots.

i wouldnt call it a bright spot... maybe average mid card filler material at best....

good things you forgot:
brock lesnar leaving, a trains gone, SD vs RAW video game
I didn't forget them. Lesnar leaving kinda sucked, but I still wouldn't want him back due to the circumstances.

lesnar leaving didnt suck at all.... i never liked him... good riddance to bad garbage....

A-Train had finally started to make inring improvements but the cut his push right at the wrong time.

atrain had horrible mic skills, horrible wrestling ability, no fan appeal as a heel or face. the guy plain sucked. i made a conscious effort not to boo or cheer him at live shows in an effort to show the company that he has no talent.... i guess others did aswell because he is gone and hopefully for good.....

And wrestling video games all suck. I have yet to play one that catches my interest.

wresltmania 2000 & no way out for N64 were great, and SD vs raw for PS2 is the best in a while....

How can someone criticize JBL, then approve of this waste of airtime.

i would rather they paraded all the women down to the ring for a 10 min dance off than watch a JBL match....

The releases of Johnny Stamboli, Chuck Palumbo, and most of the decent female wrestlers
i could care less for those bums
How were they bums exactly? They had decent inring talent and could've helped out the tag division. I suppose by your definition, then guys like Rhyno, Shannon Moore or Stevie Richards are bums too, just because creative can't find them a niche?

moore and richards are good i always hope they find the right angle.... rhyno needs to go the way of atrain... he does nothing unique or different....and my afformentioned bums are the same, they never brought anything special to the table...i mean you got a bad angle, alright, well at least bust you ass.... they never really entertained me....

the worst thing of all: they still havent remerged the rosters...
That's a terrible idea. Without the brand split, do you think that new talents would get a chance to go as far they do? Guys like Benjamin?

benjamin would be where he is for the same reason orton and cena would be where they are... (see below)

everything would be taken up by the upper echelon of Triple H, Kurt Angle, HBK, Benoit, Guerrero, Big Show, Undertaker, and so on.

rightfully so, as this is the bread and butter of the WWE... they are the upper echelon for a reason....

Randy Orton and John Cena would still be in the undercard in minor feuds. They'd be stuck at Christian's current level AT BEST.

the cream always rises to the top, i bet these guys would be there still.... no doubt, they are both super entertaining high energy with great skills in and out of the ring....

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-01 17:45:51


i dont think he has turned it around at all. he is the same wrestler, they just allow him to wrestle the top talent now.... so maybe to you he over by association....

It has nothing to do with association. It has to do with the fact that I can sit a listen and be entertained with a JBL promo. I can't do that with Triple H, for instance. I have to change channel whenever HHH opens his yap, but Bradshaw knows how to play a great heel. I'd even go so far as to say he's the greatest heel the wwe have right now. He knows how to work a crowd, imo. (And I'm not the only one, I've been to other forums where there are legions who agree with me about Bradshaw, so you can't say he's only over with me.)

i wouldnt call it a bright spot... maybe average mid card filler material at best....

Well, that's just a matter of opinion, but a high profile feud with Triple H and Evolution is in no way filler...

i would rather they paraded all the women down to the ring for a 10 min dance off than watch a JBL match....

Well, I'd rather watch a porno then any wwe Diva, at least then I get to see the goods from hotter women with better acting skills.

moore and richards are good i always hope they find the right angle.... rhyno needs to go the way of atrain... he does nothing unique or different....and my afformentioned bums are the same, they never brought anything special to the table...i mean you got a bad angle, alright, well at least bust you ass.... they never really entertained me....

Why bust your ass when your gonna go nowhere? Seriously, if the wwe had any intention of using Palumbo or Stamboli, I'd agree, but when creative is giving you squat, why bother going all out?
But I won't argue about dropping Rhyno. He's just lame, and to me shows no potential at all, unlike Palumbo more especially, who as I've often said, had Mainevent potential. To me, he looked like a champ, had the build and the inring potential to move up, but creative never gave him any decent angle.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-01 17:53:33


At 1/1/05 05:45 PM, -Rook- wrote: I'd even go so far as to say he's the greatest heel the wwe have right now. He knows how to work a crowd, imo. (And I'm not the only one, I've been to other forums where there are legions who agree with me about Bradshaw, so you can't say he's only over with me.)

i would never say its only you. But IMO i believe HHH is the tops. I feel about bradshaw, the way you feel about HHH, so i guess we can leave it at that. i dont agree with you, but i can respect it...

Well, that's just a matter of opinion, but a high profile feud with Triple H and Evolution is in no way filler...

agreed, but i believe that was a mistake, because it built him up, now they have nowhere to take him...

Well, I'd rather watch a porno then any wwe Diva, at least then I get to see the goods from hotter women with better acting skills.

agreed, but admit that the 9 diva playboy will be pretty sweet though...

Why bust your ass when your gonna go nowhere? Seriously, if the wwe had any intention of using Palumbo or Stamboli, I'd agree, but when creative is giving you squat, why bother going all out?

becuase if theres a new angle being tossed around in creative, and it could go to a number of guys, the hardest worker is more likely to get it than the slacker...

But I won't argue about dropping Rhyno. He's just lame, and to me shows no potential at all, unlike Palumbo more especially, who as I've often said, had Mainevent potential. To me, he looked like a champ, had the build and the inring potential to move up, but creative never gave him any decent angle.

i really liked the pre gay billy and chucky angle...

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-01 23:35:43


I amaybe late but who cares
Best Mick Foley Orton feud from RR to backlash. Eddie winning at No way Out. Eugene hits the buttons and scars the bajezuz outta JR. Snitsky debut.

Worst Austin with his fuck fear polaris atv. Orton turning face. Spilt up of haas and benajim I thought they were the wgtt. The cuts. Lesnar goldberg at wmxx

Ok on to svr i.e. smackdown vs raw I was wrong you can get high attribute if I am not mistake up to 10 on strength submission and duribilaty. speed and charisma are the same if theres a character with 10 on speed and charimsa 100 right there.

I hate the attire only cena can keep his jersey on and particular mysertio he was gold in hctp also. Plus I figured out why you cant see them kiss cuz it would look to funny not touch or her lips are halfway between his head.

I suggest being dirty why screw the inviciblty. Ok remove all turn buckles irish whip into it run and clothesline wait irish whip repeat. or in no dq hit the ref your partner or manger with a weapon and relase 3 devating low blows


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-01 23:55:30


I just wanted to chime in and agree about remerging the rosters being a bad idea. I know that single brand shows have not drawn as many buys, but I think that's simply because WWE has not done a good enough job of balancing the brands (they have utterly RAPED SD! time and time again, they've only left them with enough main eventers to function, and just barely at that), and they have failed to properly package and get over 90% of the new talent they have brought up (I mean, I thought it was impossible to destroy Mike "Nova" Bucci, the man has invented more moves, and been ripped off by more guys then any wrestler I know of in at least the last ten years, and they bury him with this Simon Dean gimmick). Folks, the problems with WWE start and stop in creative. If you look at most of it's BUSINESS decisions, forget creative, just look at most of what the WWE has done in terms of just operating and booking shows, and things like that decisions since the brand split, and you'll see they've made a lot of very good, very smart moves. All of them perfect? Of course not, booking competing PPV's is retarded, it hurts quality of the shows, and just smacks of greed and stupidity, stupidity because you're having enough problems convincing your audience to buy ONE show a month, let alone two.

Also, to the guy what said Rhyno should be cut, believe me, you have not seen the REAL Rhyno, in ECW, Rhyno was booked as an animal, a killer, and not just because he was young, or had any lack of talent, it's because he was big, he was mean, and that worked. Rhyno is very talented in the ring I feel, is he Chris Benoit? No, of course not, but he can do more then a lot of big guys in this business can. I don't know why he was pulled over to RAW in the midst of his push on SD! he was just starting to get over, and they yanked him to RAW, maybe to punish Paul E. in some way? I dunno, seems like removing his from TV that same night was punishment enough to Paul and the viewers. But yeah, Rhyno is just another talented guy who's a victim of (un)creative.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 00:00:18


At 1/1/05 11:55 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: stuff about creative and rosters...

yes i agree they blew it. thats why i want it back to normal. and they totally killed nova.... man WTF, i guess their giving him the ultimo dragon treatment...

Also, to the guy what said Rhyno should be cut, believe me, you have not seen the REAL Rhyno, in ECW, Rhyno was booked as an animal, a killer, and not just because he was young, or had any lack of talent, it's because he was big, he was mean, and that worked.

i agree, rhyno was awesome. ive seen old ECW, and he was great, i remember he used to wrestle in community clubs here in winnipeg before he made it to ECW... but what has he done lately? and to no fault of his own, but the animal gimmick wears thin when you lose to x-pac and other bums...

But yeah, Rhyno is just another talented guy who's a victim of (un)creative.

agreed...

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 02:05:56


Sd end of 2k4

Cena retians the us title like theirs salt in the sea anybody knew he would win. Chain gang... JIon the bolt cutter gang.

The KAI last much longer than most times.

Shanon moore mini LOD ha That was to predictabler moore names would be in the fish bowl.

Puder a heel already Hardcore is going elimate puder right when he enters the ring. Then alambaslam him onto the guard rails.

Taker and Heindinrich at RR chalk on up for taker. Damn it cole it's coffin match not casket. What sound better verbal ya see fuck connotations.

OO all the suck my cock inunedo but it was the us title.

Does rey think hes a wise guy toorie and dawn that was classical.

A good heart warming tag title match to end the old year in for me the start of the new year. Nice standing submission by eddie. So now eddie caught cheating He should of knocked rey out. But could this be the ending of eddie using the look ref I got knock ouit by him shanigans.

SD Phrase O'l Day JBL : Thats crimanal assault get that bimbo outta here.

Oh what coincidence if anyone saw jay leno on news year day(eve) when tom green found a girl to kiss it was amy weber similar to jbls image consult.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 13:48:52


reemerging the brands right now would be the worst thing that could happen. Do this: Go to WWE.com and look at the Raw roster and count how many names you see. Then do the same for SD. How can you possible fit that many people in a three hour show twice a week when the main even guys HAVE to be featured. You think HHH would sit back a show if they were united again? Hell no. Thats not even including new promising talent WWE might want to bring in. So a split roster is the best.

Why are you guys dumping on rhyno? He's an awsome wrestler! You remember when he first showed up and had that killer fued with Jericho?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 13:51:22


i a back i got banned for 7 days damn that Ozcar

doe anyone watch the amazing race because their is one group called the wrestlers i was wondering if anyone knew anything about them


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 14:02:46


At 1/2/05 01:48 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: reemerging the brands right now would be the worst thing that could happen. Do this: Go to WWE.com and look at the Raw roster and count how many names you see. Then do the same for SD. How can you possible fit that many people in a three hour show twice a week when the main even guys HAVE to be featured. You think HHH would sit back a show if they were united again? Hell no. Thats not even including new promising talent WWE might want to bring in. So a split roster is the best.

no remerge the rosters, but the raw show will be a heavy weights/major players night, featuring the world champion, IC, and tag titles.... smackdown will feature the crusierweights, and have the US, cruiser, and their tag titles...
smackdown: RVD, Jericho, Eddie, Benoit, booker t, edge
raw: HHH, kane/taker, cena, orton, angle, michaels
both shows would remain entertaing, but the one show would have more heavyweights to make for more feuds.... not the same ones over and over again.

Why are you guys dumping on rhyno? He's an awsome wrestler! You remember when he first showed up and had that killer fued with Jericho?

yeah.... but what has he done lately? that was over 4 years ago...

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 14:15:59


here is an update on playboy

The "Celebrity Nude Database Forum" (cndb.com) featured a post from a user who claims to be a Maxim Magazine Photographer about WWE planning a "Women of WWE" issue of Playboy. The post appeared at cndb.com on 12/20, 1Wrestling ran the story on 12/21 - others made note of 1Wrestling's story in the days that followed.

Throughout the past few days, "photographer" has been posting more rumors, now stating that all of the WWE divas (except Trish) have agreed to pose in the magazine.

Here is the list posted by the user:

Victoria -Topless & Full Frontal
Dawn Marie - Topless & Full Frontal
Miss Jackie - Topless Only/Lingerie
Stacy Keibler - Ass and Back only
Stephanie McMahon - See-through Nightie/Lingerie
Michelle McCool - Topless & Full Frontal
Amy Weber - Topless & Full Frontal
Maria - Topless only
Lita - Still Negotiating Poses
Joy Giovanni - Topless & Full Frontal
Christy Hemme - Topless & Ass only
Candace - Topless & Full Frontal
Torrie Wilson - Topless Only/Lingerie
Lilian Garcia - See-Through Nightie/Lingerie
Molly Holly - Topless Only/Lingerie

we gonna see some PUSSY hell fucking yea Dawn Marie yeaa


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 14:19:57


I hate to just step in outta no where and i know im gonna be bitched at but i used to watch WWE but i stopped because its gotten a bit gay. Cmon what happen to the old days, i miss the old school WWF. Yeah the gimmicks may have been cheesey but thats what made wrestling cool. WWE needs to bring more gimmicks like that back

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At 1/2/05 02:19 PM, Chilorioman wrote: I hate to just step in outta no where

People do it all the time here

and i know im gonna be bitched at but i used to watch WWE but i stopped because its gotten a bit gay. Cmon what happen to the old days, i miss the old school WWF. Yeah the gimmicks may have been cheesey but thats what made wrestling cool. WWE needs to bring more gimmicks like that back

Yeah everyone knows the good old wwf days but many people hate the new era I really dont care. What people think.

Women of wwe playboy yeah I buy that in no time.

Sopeaking of rhyno who was wraith from wcw it looked him.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 14:44:10


At 1/2/05 02:02 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote: no remerge the rosters, but the raw show will be a heavy weights/major players night, featuring the world champion, IC, and tag titles.... smackdown will feature the crusierweights, and have the US, cruiser, and their tag titles...
smackdown: RVD, Jericho, Eddie, Benoit, booker t, edge
raw: HHH, kane/taker, cena, orton, angle, michaels
both shows would remain entertaing, but the one show would have more heavyweights to make for more feuds.... not the same ones over and over again.

How is what you're talking about here any difference from the brand split we have now? The problem with the split is that Smackdown! is lacking main eventers, or any truly decent writers. Vince puts all his focus into RAW, and then he lets Triple H suggest who to get off of Smackdown! to send to RAW (Edge going to RAW was a hell of a blow to SD! because he was somebody who was ready to get a main event push over there, and SD really does need more guys who can headline, the pool is far too limited right now. That is simply because Triple H and Vince are obssesed with having the guys they consider "best" on RAW, I know why H does it, H wants as many of the up and comers on RAW as he can get so he can control how far they go, and be assured that their not getting more popular or successful then he wants them to.

I still stand by that the WWE's problems do start and stop in creative though, even with this politicing happening at the upper levels, it's still effecting how creative creates.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-02 15:10:50


At 1/2/05 02:31 PM, Iscrulz wrote: Speaking of rhyno who was wraith from wcw it looked him.

wasnt wraith adam bomb?

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-03 00:34:29


I say they should stop letting HHH run things. Yeah he's in the McMahon family now, but that shouldn't mean he can run things. I want the writers to show some back bone. If HHH makes a suggestion and it's good, then sure run with it, but if all he tells you is main events he wants to be in it's time to put the foot down. I'm almost positive that if the writers didn't get pressured by guys like him they could come up with better storys and gimmicks and we wouldn't have to see someone like Nova get buried in a horrible gimmick like he's in now.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-01-03 10:59:23


Some news:

Ultimo Dragon may not be returning to WWE, reports PWInsider. When Dragon originally left the company for "time off" and to return to Japan, he was released from his contractual status.

According to sources within WWE, they did not expect him to return at the time. Dragon however, had built up a big farewell bout in Japan that would be the "last" time he used the mask.

Dragon made two stateside appearances with it afterwards, but was under the impression he would be returning to WWE shortly. WWE sources, however, aren't optimistic he is returning.


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At 1/3/05 12:34 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I say they should stop letting HHH run things. Yeah he's in the McMahon family now, but that shouldn't mean he can run things. I want the writers to show some back bone. If HHH makes a suggestion and it's good, then sure run with it, but if all he tells you is main events he wants to be in it's time to put the foot down. I'm almost positive that if the writers didn't get pressured by guys like him they could come up with better storys and gimmicks and we wouldn't have to see someone like Nova get buried in a horrible gimmick like he's in now.

Uh, everyone seems to forget that while Triple H can make suggestions, everything is OKed by daddy-in-law. Vince is to blame for ever shitty thing in the company, since he surrounds himself with yesmen and is about as creative as retarded culobus monkey on tranquilizers. I hate to say this, but I wish the wwe would go completely bankrupt, and the McMahon's left penniless. Then, newer, better wrestling federations could rise up to take it's place, and Vince put in a position he currently has Paul Heyman in. I just hate everything about Vince McMahon. Just the sight of his face disgusts me. Sorry to rant, but goddamn don't I hate that cocksucker...