At 1/3/05 02:04 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Lots of stuff and HHH and how good he is

I totally agree. HHH is tops in the industry, like it or not. But i do think that a change is neede. Im Not saying take HHH out of the picture, but we do need a new champ.

As for this elimination chamber match:
as long as Benoit doesnt win (he had it not to long ago, not that i dont like him, i do)
edge doesnt win( ever since edge came back, ive had something against him, i dont know what but i do)
anyone else could win, and i would be happy... i would be especially happy if Jericho won it though...

some news

chris candido has returned and on fridays impact johhny fairplay will return

Former WWF Intercontinental champion Joanie "Chyna" Laurer is already off to an impressive start on the new VH-1 reality series "Surreal Life" which places several B-level celebrities in a house to live together and have their exploits taped.

According to the preview for the first episode, scheduled to air on 1/9/05, Chyna runs amok, stealing, moving things, thigh-mastering and generally causing chaos. Da Brat's afraid of being in the house with has-beens. Chris tries to maintain the peace when Verne tells Chyna that her private room is his ("It's in my contract"), and the others wonder what it is they've gotten themselves into.

The Rock’s feature film adaption of video game Doom is scheduled to be released by Universal Pictures on August 5th.

The word going around is that Ultimo Dragon may not be returning to WWE after all. When Dragon originally left the company for “time off” and to return to Japan, he was released from his contractual status. At the time, WWE sources had told me they didn’t expect him to return. Dragon however, had built up a big farewell bout in Japan that would be the “last” time he used the mask. He did make two Stateside appearances with it afterwards, but was under the impression he would be returning to WWE shortly. WWE sources, however, aren't optimistic he is returning.

Former WWE champion Brock Lesnar arrived in Tokyo, Japan this morning with former WWE star Rena "Sable" Mero, who he is engaged to. Lesnar will be attending the New Japan Pro Wrestling Tokyo Dome event tomorrow.

Lesnar told the Japanese media that he is interested in fighting for New Japan, K-1, and PRIDE but won't do anything but "watch" until his contract with WWE expires in March. Lesnar stated that he "may do something" tomorrow at the Dome

Kurt Angle will be appearing on MTV's "Made" on 1/13/05 as part of an episode about a Poughkeepsie, New York teenager who was trying to accomplish the task of getting into ripped condition. Angle spent the day with the teenager several weeks ago.

At 1/3/05 03:19 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Think of the chaos if Batista won. It would, no doubt, begin a new era on Raw.

Indeed I hope he wins plus he hasnt any fued with hbk.
hhh- major feud since remember SS 02
Orton- Tryed to kill the legend
Beniot- got screwed over at wmxx and backlash instead of a 1 on 1.
Y2J- Back when he was heel a year two the had feud where one of them was hancuffed to the ropes.
Edge: taboo tuesaday

Edge is one of the few wrestlers I flip with. I absolutely hate himas a face, but as a heel he's one of the best. His game improves every time he goes heel. I'd like to see him hold the title, but it's not going to happen. Edge won't win the title.

I think he would will hbk will get his revenge form taboo tuesday

Neither will Jericho. He was just another guy they threw in there to make six.

Thats too easy he wont win it.

Benoit to win? Highly doubtful seeing as how the feud between him and Edge seems to be brewing. This is acyually one of the feuds I've been wanting to see and that is actually being executed well.

Yeah I want a heel to win it so...

That leaves us with Orton and Batista. I can see it actually. Yes, those two vying for the title as wrestlemania would be huge!!

But if batista wins, will trips pull a post summerslam and make him turn face and jion the ex-evoultion memember(randy) or go on a a single heel doubt it according to storyline H is to obessed with the wht to let batista keep and or win it. Then Orton face wins at wmxxi.

I have seen you have a new sig outlaw, it done good to change.

Angle on "Made" I would watch but I prolly forget.

Is razors edge on svr and this may sound stupid but I cant start any challenges in the shopzone screen it just selects and goes to the previous.
Plus there is lots of lock moves I wonder I mean are they are unlock in challenge mode.

Awesome power by the animal standing up from a crossface and batista bombing beniot to next week. Damn I wish that fisherman suplex was going to be a mexican strecth buster.

Another victory for the heel side, victory roll like a sunsetflip doesnt do much but pin. but a hurranaca from a heavyweight.

Yet agian redneck racist- Arab american gimmick getting prolled. Yeah I want to have lawler chairshot I forget who was choking JR.

OOOh Maven is such a bad ass heel. but to saristic to be funny. A t-bone suplex is not a finisher hell no suplex is.

Sweet attire from victoria. still has the austin knee brace. 3 chick kicks and trish wins lita was like that not me punch punch roll fire wait snitsky chair Fuck Yeah Kane music hits. but he didnt do much damage I was hoping a weapon use or ring post. NYR should be 80% offense by Kane.

We saw masked kane from the elimantion chamber in survior series 02.

Haha christy caught regal lip sing. LOL eugene the mimic machine when is he going to do a sharp shooter bret hart not beniot or rock, or million dollar dream. Tomko only power offense is a big boot. eugene will keep the titles.

Nice heartwarming match to end raw aka the babyface beats the top heel. The funniest when flair stomped with botn not one foot. But remeber face fans of orton escape of the rko is a measely push. Right when hbk came in and counted rko shove orton goes flying back first.

Raw pharse o'l day Batista: Wheres my hundred dollars... lighten up get a sense of humor.

At 1/3/05 03:19 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Think of the chaos if Batista won. It would, no doubt, begin a new era on Raw.

it would be sweet if HHH played it cool with him, like let the fact that he is champ slide.... and let things come to a boil later....

Edge is one of the few wrestlers I flip with. I absolutely hate himas a face, but as a heel he's one of the best. His game improves every time he goes heel. I'd like to see him hold the title, but it's not going to happen. Edge win't win the title.

I really dont like edge as i stated before.... i still dont think he can handle being champ, and i dont know if the majority of people would pay to see him as champ...

Neither will Jericho. He was just another guy they threw in there to make six.

i hope that Jericho will win... OMG it would be the best possible outcome because he is the best!

Benoit to win? Highly doubtful seeing as how the feud between him and Edge seems to be brewing. This is acyually one of the feuds I've been wanting to see and that is actually being executed well.

an edge benoit feud would be pretty sweet.... as long as it wasnt for the title...

The only possible outcomes are Triple H, Batista, or Orton. But then you throw Shawn Michaels in there, making it very improbable that Trips will win.

I dont know about that.... when Jericho won the undisputed championship, he was seen as an outsider with no shot, just there as filler. I think theres more to this match than we all think...

That leaves us with Orton and Batista. I can see it actually. Yes, those two vying for the title as wrestlemania would be huge!!

i would pay to see it yes, but i would prefer Jericho

Think about it. We've seen Benoit, Jericho, and Trips before, it's gotten old no matter how you pair them up. If you pit any of them against Batista or Orton, we've seen that too (bar Batista V.s. Trips).

yes your right it is a completly fresh angle, with anywhere to go...

But the prospect of seeing Randy Orton and Batista going at it one-on-one at Wrestlemani is arefreshing idea. I think that's the best matchup they could have. Which means.....

no, i think jericho vs. any number of people is just as good...

Randy;s going to win the title, and Batista is going to win the Rumble. That way Triple H has no chance of getting the title back before Wrestlemania. And while Edge and Benoit Feud, there'll be Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho ready to greet Triple H.

hmmmm.... you have some cool predictions, even though i dont agree with them, it would still be cool if they happened...

My wrestlemania dream? angle vs. bret hart....

At 1/3/05 02:04 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Okay fools, it's time I learned you something.

Everytime someone says something like this, I just go into pwn mode...it's like a defense mechanism I swear.

I've sat back here and watched all you complain how Triple H runs things, how Triple H keeps other talent down, how Triple H hogs the spotlight for himself.

There's ample evidence to prove that he is, or at the very least, that Vince is pushing him to do so.

Listen to this ya wankers, Triple H deserves to be where he is today. For years he wrestled as a mid-card feautre. When the time came, he heaved the WWF on his own shoulders and walked forward at an alarming pace. He has more talent than anyone on the roster, bar a handful. Of that handful, Batista, Randy Orton, and Shelton Benjamin rank top in overall skill and value.

Um, Chris Benoit? Chris Jericho? RVD? Shawn Michaels? Ric Flair? Nova? There's a lot of guys on that roster who are more talented then those guys I feel, but for whatever reason are not being pushed as top attractions, I find you stating opinion as fact to be somewhat ignorant and damaging to your overall case.

Triple H has payed his dues, he has worked hard, and he has overcome obstacles that other guys did not face, such as an office that for a lot of years didn't want him to succeed. He is definitely one of the most talented ever, but it can't be denied that his greatest success was coming at a point when he began a relationship with the boss's daughter, and that calls into question exactly how much he is achieving on his own merits, and how much is because of who he is married to. Plus, there are NUMEROUS stories floating around the business about how Triple H is a manipulator, and ungrateful towards those who have gotten him where he is. People who bitch about H aren't just pulling it out of their ass, they're hearing it from credible sources who are working with the man and seeing it first hand, or they're witnessing it every night on TV as Triple H, title or no, is usually the featured attraction on RAW, and kills off many potential challengers to his title and spot with seeming ease.

Now tell me something, who helped them, along the way? Triple H. Let's go with Benjamin first. Triple H didn't have to agree to losing to Shelton 3 times. Hell, he didn't even have to take one loss. But Triple H didn't argue because he knew Shelton was on the way up anyhow. The first match between them, Triple H and Benjamin had an excellent match, each working for the other. That match definitly propelled Shelton mainstream.

True, Trips didn't have to agree to help Shelton. Nobody is saying Trips dosen't occassionally do business the right way, but I think he did that because he knows Benjamin is no immediate threat to him, or his position, and that H ultimately can't keep mowing everyone down, he needs to allow some people to be built towards the future, so he has them to mow down later on. Shelton isn't going to be in the main events anytime soon I feel, so it was fine for H to give him the rub.

Batista and Orton are easy to explain. Evolution. Even after the injuries both Batista and Orton sustained, Triple H kept them by his side and helped give them a push up the ladder.

Absolutely, but the flipside to that is now they "owe" H for their spot, and they become potential backstage allies for Hunter down the line if the younger guys ever rise up and bitch about how much tv time he eats up. He'll point to Orton and Batista as how he helped the young guys, and they'll point to how H helped them, and that'll be enough to squash the arguement since Vince will most likely be looking for an excuse to take H's side anyway.

Remember when Batista and Orton were both on smackdown? They were going nowhere, even with all that talent. Triple H rectified that.

For his own personal reasons I feel.

As for his greed to stay in the title picture, too bad. How can any of you honestly see Triple H doing anything other than the world Title? He doesn't have feuds unless they are well thought out and planned. The creative team can't seem to muster any worth while feuds anymore, so Triple H remains in the title hunt.

No, Triple H remains in the title hunt because he has a say in the booking, and it appears creative is too lazy or stupid to start pushing new opponents up, plus the fact that H spent most of last year killing off any challenger that crossed his path. H has a stated desire that he wants to beat Flair's record, and the power to do so, H should stay a step below the World Title picture, he should be using his position to get new talent over, and be a transitional champion when neccessary, not the focus of the show, he's proven he's just not drawing ratings when he does that.

At 1/4/05 12:11 AM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Angle v.s. Hart!? Try Angle v.s. Benoit v.s. Ediie Guerrero. The three best WRESTLERS in the ring at once all trying to best one another?!

any sane person would rather see the return of bret hart, than any other person on the active roster...

You have to admit...the best matches in history involved my top four.

1. Kurt Angle
2. Eddie Guerrero
3. Chris Jericho
4. Chris Benoit

you obviously havent been watching very long... whers the Michaels vs razor ladder match? wheres bret vs michaels iron man? you havent even mentioned steam boat... or flair? it might not have been a technical spectacle, but i was there for it and rock vs hogan was amazing... you have alot of learing to do, and i hope some other members tell you whats wrong with your list...

In terms of overall talent, they are the top four guys, and I'd like to see someone try to argue that.

well kurt is a no brainer, so is jericho.... but you forgot cena, orton, HHH, undertaker... wrestling isnt all in ring ability, its entertainment and mic skills too....

By the way, I'd just like to reitterate this while have the chance.

Angle V.s. Benoit Royal Rumble '02 > all

fuck that, fuck right back to where you came up with it..... if the match doesnt involve flair, steamboat, bret hart, shawn michaels or any other 97 and earlier star, then it really doesnt qualify for best ever... period, end of discussion....

For tonights RAW, first hour was good, second hour sucked.

what The_Redangleprince is forgetting is that sometimes the top guy in the company is not the champion, but the chaser. HHH when he came back from injury, was not the champion, but the chaser and he was the top guy. As was austin before him, and michaels before him. goldbergs done it. you dont have to be champion to be the top guy.... put HHH is a solid chase story, and he would be just as good if not better...

This Sunday... I will go to New Year's Revolution. And I will have the best time of my 16 year life.

And damn, was there ever a crapload of debate over Triple H. I'll give my opinion on all that later, but first...

Kraidle's RAW IS... REVIEW!
******
Bischoff Segment:
Well, we start off with Mr. Bischoff talking about how last week, the EC members were beating the clock, and that this week they would beat each other. Yes, thy were some wild matches, but just read on so you know what they are.

Batista vs. Chris Benoit: 3.8/5
Oh hell yeah! I enjoyed this match very much, and not a bad way to start off 2005 over at RAW. The match was very well done, and it ended soon after Batista lifted Benoit out of the Crossface and slammed him onto an exposed turnbuckle, following up with a damn good powerbomb.

Evolution Segment:
Actually, pretty funny. Batista comes in and demands that he gets his $100 from Triple H, since if you recall, they had a bet of who could beat their opponent faster, and Hunter lost. But when Triple H shows the green with a pissed face, Batista says it was a joke. I don't know what the fuck the deal is, since I bet they wipe their ass with those bills.

Snitsky Interview:
Well, Maria interviews Snitsky, and he says that he likes surprises. After scaring Maria off, Snitsky then goes and says that he has a surprise in store for Kane, one that he isn't going to like. AND that will not be his fault.

Edge Segment:
Edge bitches to Eric about how he made HBK the special referee for the Elimination Chamber, since he speared him out of the Championship, and Eric counters him, saying that he lost business due to THAT spear, since he added 6 weeks to his recovery time. Eric then says to take out the agression on Jericho, since their match is next.

Edge vs. Chris Jericho: 3.7/5
Hey! The EC members were on fire tonight! Edge and Jericho had an awesome match as well, only thing is that they took a break in the middle of it, and that's a no-no. Edge countered Jericho's rollup, and used the ropes to get the win over him.

Randy Interview:
Randy simply talks about how he will beat Triple H tonight in the ring 1, 2, 3 with an RKO. Yep, only relevant thing he said.

Shelton Benjamin vs. Sylvan Grenier: 3.2/5
Hmm, you know this wasn't a match per se, at least I didn't feel it like that. Maven came out and did a little commentary with JR and King. Shelton Benjamin won easily, but the real story was that Maven said that he would challenge Benjamin for the IC Title. Joy.

Debate:
Um... they debated, Hassan kicked JR and King's asses, and we got The Coach for the rest of the night doing commentary. What? You expected me to cover this seriously? Pfffffffff.

Trish Stratus vs Victoria: 1.9/5
Yay! Victoria is back! All is well with the world. But this was a pretty one-sided match, Trish dominating Victoria almost through all of it. She simply chick-kicked Victoria for the win.

Lita Ambush:
Yep, Lita came down to the ring after the match, since Trish trash-talked her a little after the match. They rumbled a little bit, until Snitsky came down, and distracted Lita long enough for Trish to chick-kick her. Snitsky was just about to crush Lita's throat, when Kane came out. Yeah, all hell is going to break loose in NYR!

Christy Segment:
This was actually Eugene's, but he's not her. And she was cold, IF you know what I mean ;). Anywho, Eugene and Regal came out, and talked to Christy before the match, and we also saw a glimpse of Regal singing Lindsay Lohan's song. Hilarious!

Eugene vs. Christian: 2.4/5
Meh. It wasn't one of the greatest matches, but it was pretty entertaining. There was interfeirence on both parties, and some smooth moves. Christian won a la Edge earlier, rolling up Eugene for the count.

Encouragement:
Nothing much to say here, Triple H got a boost of confidence by Batista and Ric, saying that they had his back for the next match.

Triple H vs. Randy Orton: 3.8/5
Yep, this match was just as good as the other ones. The turning point was when Hunter threw the ref at Randy, knocking him out, making all hell break loose. Everyone involved in the EC match (including Michaels) went to the ring and interfeired in some way, HBK taking over official duties. The match ended when Randy Orton nailed the RKO.
******

Okay, that's it from me. Bye!

whoo.. seems we got a HHH debate going.

I like HHH the wrestler. I've enjoyed his ring work since I first started watching when he was involved with DX. In the ring he is one of the best no doubt, he's done it all from last man standing to iron man matches. HHH the backstage guy I'm not too happy with. And Rook is right too. it's not all HHH fault since Vince gets the final say on everything.

I was watching Raw with some friends of mine and it came to the part where they debated and one of them who is also a huge WWE fan was just like "This is stupid. Why is he the heel?" And I thought about it for a while and had no real good answer. Then it came to me. What if they had moved this gimmick to SD and had him fued with JBL? If you remember he is the racist redneck that Hassan is fighting against. Remember when he was in the fued with Eddie and went to the mexican border and kicked people out? Her would be a kille face and we'd have none of these problems that have spawned from this.

Yeh, it seems a bit pointless having Hassan fight against people who havent even been racist to them. Do you know what hassans real name is? Mark Magnus. Holy crap, how did they come up with this piece of crap storyline?
You know what i think? HHH and HBK will become friends again this sunday, and HBK will join evolution, help HHH to win the title, and give everyone that disappointed feeling

WWE is over rated. "IF j00 SMAIL, WHTA DA RAWK IZ KOOCING??!!"

*queer music plays*

*shitty pose*

*fight like a moron*

END.

That's the only recipe to wrestling nowadays. TNA wrestling is even worse than any motherfucking wrestling shiznit on the face of the Earth.

I was serious about how to starting the challenge mode on svr it just got mixed in with my post or the people that read it dont have too much.

Angle vs. Benoit was that the cage match and didnt they tangle in 03 RR.

JBL Hassan feud damn thats good thinking. but jbl would win every debate and match. But I would laugh at jbl racist comments.

IK dont know about hhh and his backstage superiority but I always thought he married steph a long time ago. On Conan he said he got married around vince v. steph I quit match around no mercy 02. the time of one-legged gimmick Zac Gowen.

i loved this raw for one reason i saw the two funniest things in my lif

1. j.r gagging his face was so funny
2. reagal dancing and singing now whats up wit dat

breaking news

Sean Waltman made a post today on his official message board at SeanWaltman.com claiming that Chyna was arrested on January 1st, 2005 for "domestic battery."

Waltman claims Laurer struck him several times in the face after returning from a New Years visit to the Playboy mansion. Waltman said the incident happened right in front of his children and she was released today.

Here is the post:

Joanie was arrested on January 1st for domestic battery. She assualted me struck me in the head and face countless times after getting back from the Playboy Mansion. There were several witnesses to her behavior, including Jeff Meecham from The Extreme Mayhem Show, and unfortunately my two children witnessed and heard all of this. She was released today once again having to suffer no consequences for her behavior. She showed no remorse.

does anyone see the irony in that? wtf is wrong with these people?

At 1/4/05 01:41 PM, Iscrulz wrote: I was serious about how to starting the challenge mode on svr it just got mixed in with my post or the people that read it dont have too much.

Get ovver 15 pins or KO in slobberknocker time limit. Then follow the direction in challenge section and do in exhibtion note you might have to change the difficultly i.e. legends challenges. I could believe I got reverse 10 strikes and grapples and it was with fucking kurt angle.

I wanna Join!

I'll just respond to the Redangle real quick, and then I'm going to bed. Reliable sources WITHIN the company report that Triple H is not helping out certain individuals, that he has in the present, and in the past, attempted to sabotage the careers of guys who were getting better pushes then him (there are many stories floating about him trying to hold Austin and Rock down when he got involved with Steph and she got head of creative, that they both petitioned Vince a lot to de-push those two). If I was Triple H I would be doing more jobs if it made sense for me to do so, would I put over everyone in sight? Absolutely not, I'd recognize that my position and the rub I can give only works if I am seen as a top guy, and to do that, I do have to maintain a certain character and win loss record, but I'd recognize I don't need to get the title every two months to stay over. I would be putting myself a step below that big picture, and if I thought I could help the champ by working a program with him, I would, and I'd put him over. Why would I do all this? Because I realize the business is a work, as does any fan out of elementary school, and because I know that thanks to my familial connection with the owners, I need to keep the company healthy so that I can one day be an owner and make money off of it.

See, difference between what I say, and what you say, is I will at least state when I have an opinion, or I try to provide some evidence when I say something to be fact, you just act like you know the man personally, or that nobody would ever purposely hold another co-worker back to their benefit and the detriment of the company they work for. That happens ALL THE TIME IN ALL JOBS AND COMPANIES AT SOME TIME OR ANOTHER. It isn't just wrestling, it's everywhere, H has gotten better in the last year or two in being more of a team player, and I hope he continues to do so. I have a lot of respect for what he's done, and honestly? I want to see him be able to walk out with his head high, and people praising him for what he did in the ring, not blasting him for what he's done in the back. But that is entirely up to him.

At 1/4/05 01:41 PM, Iscrulz wrote: I was serious about how to starting the challenge mode on svr it just got mixed in with my post or the people that read it dont have too much.

Sorry i didnt reply earlier. You just have todo all the challenges in Exhibition mode (I got confused by it as well). Make sure that you always change the rules to DEFAULT or you cant do the challenges, and make sure you have everything that it says you need (Like benoit's Finsher as normal when you fight him)

At 1/5/05 02:03 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: So? Austin and The rock needed a shove off. Austin was a no-talent hack who drinks and beats women. Certainly not a man I'd hire for any job. The Rock was an arrogant Prima Donna and I'm glad he's not around full-time. Neither of them deserved top spot, despite anything they had done in the past.

I know, being the biggest draws in the history of the business dosen't mean they should be top guys. Whatever the hell was Vince thinking putting people the fans wanted to see into the main events? *sarcasm*

I'm still laughing at this whole Super Villain Hunter vibe you're giving off, and also at the whole act you're putting on yourself. No one works for others, we're all too selfish.

No, Terry Funk helped to build ECW by doing what I felt Triple H should be doing, he used his name, and his abilities, to make people into stars. It's good for the company, and as I said, since Hunter will one day have an owner's stake in the company, I feel he should be doing more to make sure he is helping to keep it profitable for himself to take over. To be fair, I applaud Triple H of late for helping out guys like Orton, or Batista, I think he HAS been doing business the right way in the last few months, and unless somebody can bring conclusive proof that H was behind the disastrous title switch to Orton, he's done what was right for business in a couple of very bad situations.

First off, just because you say 'reliable sources' does NOT make your arguement any more potent or mine any less true. Citing sources is something I'd do for a class, not an online debate.

Well, you should, because otherwise, you're just saying "this is the truth because I say it is" if you're debating someone anywhere, at any time, you need to have evidence.

Second, I'm surprised you'd think that I'm so dense as to not realize the sort of behavior that takes place in the business world. I'm going to have to ask you to stop treating me like an idiot, and more like an opponent in debate.

I'm not trying to treat you like an idiot, but you are acting like one, you come off like you cannot fathom someone in a business environment doing what is best for himself, and trying to purposely sabotage others who might threaten his position in that business. That is what Triple H has been accused of, there's a lot of evidence that he has, I've tried to present that evidence to the best of my ability, and all you do is accuse me of portraying H as a "super-villian" which I don't feel I'm doing, I'm portraying the man in a way that my knowledge of his pattern of behavior leads me to believe he acts. He's not a "super-villian" he just seems to have a problem sharing, or an obssesion with making sure he's remembered in the same breath as Ric Flair. But as I said above, I will give Triple H the credit he deserves in saying that I feel he has, to my eyes and my knowledge, been doing good and correct business since last year's Wrestlemania.

Finally, I'll end my part in say this. For anything that Triple H has done, I feel that he has been justified, and further more, that he holds no responsibility TO BE justified. He has done more for the company than Austin or Rock ever did, and he ranks right up there with Hogan, Taker, Flair, Hart, and Michaels as men who carried the business and carried it well at one point or another.

I'll give you about the carrying, there is no denying that H has done that, and continues to be a great and viable fall-back guy. However I feel he's overexposed right now, whether that's his doing, or the doing of Vince Mcmahon, I can't honestly say for a 100% fact because I'm not in the creative meetings. But I think he needs to be scaled back a little bit so as to make him a better draw, and a more viable champion. I completely disagree with what you say on Austin and Rock, and history, and the sales numbers disagree with you as well. On Trips justification, well, again, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree, but you certainly have the right to your opinion, as I have the right to mine.

Does he have power and authority? Of course. Does he abuse it? Of course. But does he deserve it? Again the answer is, of course.

I don't think anyone is ever justified in abusing authority, or using their power to the detriment of others. That right there is basically everything that is wrong with the world. I guess this is just one of those philosophical differences where we will have to agree to disagree.

headlessevilchicken you are # 114. Welcome to the club!

How many here are going to watch teh PPV this sunday? A few of my friends and I are going to split the cost and order it. Then on Monday we go see Raw live! I'm going to bring my digital camera and see if I can get some pics to post.

At 1/5/05 10:48 AM, Karnaf wrote:

At 1/4/05 01:41 PM, Iscrulz wrote:

Sorry i didnt reply earlier. You just have todo all the challenges in Exhibition mode (I got confused by it as well). Make sure that you always change the rules to DEFAULT or you cant do the challenges, and make sure you have everything that it says you need (Like benoit's Finsher as normal when you fight him)

The crippler crossface challenge pisses me off its near impossible because he has 10 submission. Then you have to beat him in a ultimate submission. And steal bret hart sharpshooter and win. they're going to be tough.
All the outlaw names in the move set are stone colds that why there is so many.

At 1/5/05 03:30 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Aview, you has some valid points and you completely missed MY point on a couple of the things I said, but I'm done on the matter.

I can respect that, I'd just like to clarify a thing or two I think you missed that I said.

I'm saying Triple H deserves to look out for number one because of everything he has done. He has a right to it now, although you make it seem far worse than how it really is.

I don't deny what he's done, and I don't deny that he has the right to get treated in a respectful manner because of what he's done. But at the same time, no one anywhere has the right to do something purposefully damaging to the company they work for the way H has been accused of. It's biting the hand that feeds you, and fact is, they did a lot for H as well since no matter how good H is, you would not know who he was if the WWE had not picked him up and pushed him. I also think that the best thing Triple H can do for himself is to make sure that he is being a team player because unlike most of the other people working there right now, he gets to inherit the company when Vince dies, and he retires.

You're saying that Triple H has done a lot, but should be using his position to push others forth and make the company better.

Absolutely, and I would say the same for Shawn Michaels, and the Undertaker, and Ric Flair as well. I believe that when you have made your name, cemented your legacy, and ensured that you will be remembered as one of the all time greats, I think you should try and help the next guy get up to that point. Because to me, if you just suck the business dry, who remembers you? What do you get to point to and say "I did that" if there's nothing and no one left to care? Plus, it didn't hurt Mic Foley's legacy a bit to come in and help guys like Randy Orton.

I have far more to argue, but like I said, I'm done. You're correct. It's something that we'll have to agree to disagree upon.

Yeah, I agree, we could probably go around and around forever, but it won't get us anything, and it would be inappropriate for us to continue to treat this topic like our own personal soapbox.

Next Topic please.

yes, I'm curious, who do you think should be in the main event at Mania on the RAW end? H/Orton or H/Batista? I think H/Batista really has the potential to draw more money, especially since the push for Orton and H has been disapating, and they've been really building the tension between H and Batista well, and believably.

At 1/6/05 01:13 AM, The_Redangleprince wrote: As for Smackdown, .....I don't want to see either Show or JBL, but it looks like one or both of them will be making the trip. I don't expect to enjoy the SD main event this year. -_-

Its going to be Jbl at wrestlemania and the winner of the #1 contender at No Way Out( assuming sd doesnt win the rumble). But I dont know booker taker eddie had their chances angle or show maybe or it'll be 15man over the top battle royal, and god forbid cena will wins but everybody wants jbl to lose the title at wm.

I told some on in my group I think Angle should win the wwe title and they replied You dont want him to turn into H (the many & lenghty title reigns) Quarrel

seems Show could do it. If they make JBL lose to anyone it could be him.

At 1/5/05 11:28 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: yes, I'm curious, who do you think should be in the main event at Mania on the RAW end? H/Orton or H/Batista? I think H/Batista really has the potential to draw more money, especially since the push for Orton and H has been disapating, and they've been really building the tension between H and Batista well, and believably.

I would like to see Ortan and Batista in the main event. Mostly because I'll know Triple H will not have the belt. I think trips needs a new gimmick. Maybe he should go to smackdown?

If that does happen in the main event, Go Batista.

I just need to comment on this, You guys are saying that HHH is going to inherit the company when Vince goes. Um.. Shane is the son Vince right? Wouldn't it go to him too? Vince and Linda run things now right? So onnce they retire or pass away their children and their families take ove. Shane is married too you know, so I think he would have a say in all of this. Yes HHH would get some of the company, but not all of it.

At 1/6/05 10:39 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I just need to comment on this, You guys are saying that HHH is going to inherit the company when Vince goes. Um.. Shane is the son Vince right? Wouldn't it go to him too? Vince and Linda run things now right? So onnce they retire or pass away their children and their families take ove. Shane is married too you know, so I think he would have a say in all of this. Yes HHH would get some of the company, but not all of it.

Vince isnt going anywhere for a long time. a LONG time. When the company is ready to handed over to whoever is going to get it, HHH will be off the active roster anyways, so i dont think its anything to worry about.....