At 3/26/16 11:55 PM, LuckyLightTitan wrote: DBZ is basically MLP as an anime.

I get opinions and all, but I honestly couldn't wrap my brain around anyone trying to compare Dragon Ball Z to My Little Pony aside from maybe the hardcore fanboys, but even then they're the minority of the fanbase of those shows that you are overreacting to. I said it before, and I'll say it again, if you don't like X show, then don't watch it and don't let the fans of X show get to you. Anime is not the enemy, there is more than enough in the archives for all of us, with more coming down the pipeline every year. It would also help to explain your reasoning rather than using silly epithets or putting a broad brush on a fanbase, even in the general forums, you won't be able to get away with that, usually anyways.

It's no different if I were to say the same thing about FLCL and didn't provide any good reason why I hated it {and a few times I have done just that} If nothing else, a bit of context and reasoning helps greatly.

Speaking of FLCL, Toonami with I.G. studios are co-producing 2 more seasons, thoughts?

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Can I join?
I love anime!
Esdeath is bae!

After all these years, what do you think you would ACTUALLY rate Dragon Ball Z?
I would rate it 3/5!
Because PLOT: Grunt, Grunt, Vegeta Stole Yamcha's Girl, Grunt, Scream, Grunt, Goku Dies At Least Once A Saga, Yell, All The Parents Are Abusive, Yell, Scream, Shout, But Cool Story

At 3/28/16 05:42 PM, VenomationsTV wrote: Can I join?
I love anime!
Esdeath is bae!

Yes, you can join the Anime club. Tell us your three favorites.

Yes, you can join the Anime club. Tell us your three favorites.

Akame Ga Kill!
Yu-Gi-Oh!
Sonic X!
And Catherine... it may have been a game, but it was the most anime thing I've ever seen and it rocked!

At 3/28/16 07:13 PM, RealFaction wrote: I recently watched Outbreak Company and Byrhilder From the Darkness. Loved both of them. But I like Outbreak Company better. I recommend both though.

Checked the untranslated raws of the latter, it have gotten to Evangelion level. I wouldn't be surprised if Kuroneko turns out to be Ryouta's mom's clone and they starts screwing each other.

Also, Kazumi's dead...

At 3/28/16 06:49 PM, VenomationsTV wrote: Akame Ga Kill!
Yu-Gi-Oh!
Sonic X!

Not bad choices. Whenever you finish an anime, let us know your thoughts.

At 3/28/16 08:58 PM, RealFaction wrote:

At 3/28/16 07:53 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 3/28/16 07:13 PM, RealFaction wrote: I recently watched Outbreak Company and Byrhilder From the Darkness. Loved both of them. But I like Outbreak Company better. I recommend both though.

Checked the untranslated raws of the latter, it have gotten to Evangelion level. I wouldn't be surprised if Kuroneko turns out to be Ryouta's mom's clone and they starts screwing each other.

Nope. Just look up the subbed stuff, I usually use sites like gogoanime and kissanime i think it's called (im tired atm), you'll find sites that show the subbed stuff. It's only in Japan atm and it's 12 episodes long but it's worth it, at least it's subbed. Though some people arent into subbed stuff which I get. It's not Evangelion level but I still think it's a good watch at least once. I find some of it really sad due to what happens.

Outbreak Company is dubbed though.

I'm referring to the manga actually, especially the chapters that continues after the anime ended. It also has some revelations the anime didn't get to, such as the fact that Kuroneko wasn't the only one modified when she and Ryouta fell off the dam, explaining his photographic memory.

Then there's his connection to Vingulf that he wasn't aware of.

Akame Ga Kill was the saddest ending.
However, I loved how they mixed slapstick with such dark themes!

At 3/28/16 09:41 PM, VenomationsTV wrote: Akame Ga Kill was the saddest ending.
However, I loved how they mixed slapstick with such dark themes!

Esdeath is bae.

At 3/28/16 09:33 PM, RealFaction wrote: A

O.o dang. Well i'll have to read the manga, havent read it. It really did seem like a horribly sad ending :c i was just like "no way...it really ends like that?" i mean its just those two in the series...i have to read the manga now. AH HA! I knew it! I had a feeling he was modified. But, why no harnest in his neck? Why doesn't he have to take pills? Quite odd...well i know he's different from them. He doesn't exactly have alien powers like they do. Geez...sounds like it gets deep.

It's a long story and it was Nanami's ghost who discover the truth though she didn't tell him the whole thing. She did reveal that his lifespan have been shortened as a result and suddenly the dude starts getting a headache.

There's also a little story arc involving a reporter trying to investigate her sister's disappearance when they were kids, turns out it was Kana. Sadly their reunion didn't last long when Ryouta's younger brother who was thought to have been dead as a baby shows up and freaking murders her...right after he murders his older brother, forcing Hatsuna to choose between the two.

All and all, so far in the recent chapter, Kana and Hatsuna are still alive so far but Kazumi...to make sure she was dead, chapter 180 had her melted carcass destroyed.

At 3/28/16 09:41 PM, VenomationsTV wrote: However, I loved how they mixed slapstick with such dark themes!

Ehh, the problem is that they go back and forth between slapstick and seriousness so quickly, it's hard to take it seriously. Thing is though, this could've worked had they actually gave it some space between cracking jokes and the dismemberment and gore. IDK how it is in the manga, but the anime suffered big time because of that.

Overall, I would consider it the poor man's Berserk. You're better off reading the manga.

The best girl.

At 3/28/16 09:41 PM, VenomationsTV wrote: Akame Ga Kill was the saddest ending.
However, I loved how they mixed slapstick with such dark themes!

I enjoyed the cast, and it was shocking about members dying left and right.

At 3/31/16 01:43 AM, Vinnyy wrote: That's the reason why I like Akame ga Kill. Anyone can die. It's not like Fairy Tail where the good guys are always saved by the bullshit "power of friendship."

I fell the same way. Every anime should put the fear of death into the cast. However, some members died before you even knew anything about them.

At 3/31/16 10:58 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

At 3/31/16 01:43 AM, Vinnyy wrote: That's the reason why I like Akame ga Kill. Anyone can die. It's not like Fairy Tail where the good guys are always saved by the bullshit "power of friendship."

I fell the same way. Every anime should put the fear of death into the cast. However, some members died before you even knew anything about them.

It's really about the timing since there's a difference between killing someone off to show how serious the situation is and randomly killing off characters for the sake of adding more shock. Speaking of which, I'd like to see an anime remake of Devilman being made, it'd fit well with some mainstream trend (excluding moe series) where the likes of AoT and AgK have been gaining some followings.

People like to hype up Elfen Lied for its nudity and gore but the manga and the OVA of Devilman have been there and done that (despite the fact that the first anime series was toned down to a level of Twilight before Twilight existed though on a unrelated note, Akira in that series was voiced by the guy who would go on to voice Cancer Deathmask).

Also I'd like to see Mahou Shoujo of the End getting an anime treatment as well.

Toonami tonight after the April Fool's day prank. Check it out tonight, and we can discuss it tomorrow.

At 4/2/16 06:09 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Phone's ringing, Dude.

Thank you, Donny.

We finally got rid of Parasyte. There will be a new anime @ 1 next Toonami. Anything will be better than Parasyte. If you missed it don't feel bad, because everybody did.

Put Harlock on hold and decided that since I've expressed so much love for Macross I might as well do my duty as a mecha fan and finally give Gundam a proper go.

Watched the Mobile Suit Gundam compilation movies to refresh myself on the series since it's been years since I watched it. Felt like they cut far too much character stuff out of it, but it was still an enjoyable watch.

Up next was Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, which I just finished yesterday. I found it to be quite a drag compared to the original. I wasn't interested or attached to any of the characters other than Char & Amuro, in fact I disliked most of the main cast. It was paced pretty well though and it was never truly boring, I was just never invested in what was happening. The ending was very sudden and downbeat, definitely caught me off-guard and left me feeling pretty let down.

Now time for Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ. Currently two episodes in. It picks up right where Zeta left off, which I'm thankful for, but there's such a huge contrast in tone that it's pretty jarring. Very lighthearted and silly so far, not sure if that will end up being a relief or an awful imbalance that brings things down.

Plan is to continue watching every major series/OVA in release order until I've either caught up or I get so sick of it that I quit watching animation for the rest of my life. Wish me luck.

At 3/26/16 09:58 AM, DeIirium wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0tIjw7fII

That literally only re-enforces my point that it's splitting hairs. The history lesson says just as much and the cultural difference referenced had to have been the niche group that needs to have a special name for everything. Even the guy's own rules confuse him. Anime = Animation. Animation = definition of what a motion cartoon is. My point still stands. Avatar TLA would be less "anime" and more ANIME if it were made in another part of the world. Also, because of all the back and forth of the thas page over this, DBZ, and such, this is relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mQScjlXbBE

At 4/3/16 07:32 PM, Oolaph wrote: I'mma watch all the Gundam ever

You are a brave fool. I loved the Gundam series at one point. It just drags on way too long though and with too many sub series. Gundam Wing was the one I got into first and I still like it the best. Endless Waltz was an amazing tie in film. I T ried following the whole Gundam family of series but it just burned me out.

I do need to find a copy of Gundam Battle Assault 1 and 2 on PS1. Great fighting game. Me and my brother would always end up fist fighting over the outcome of matches. Long live the Hygogg and Acguy mobile suits.

At 4/3/16 07:32 PM, Oolaph wrote: Up next was Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, which I just finished yesterday. I found it to be quite a drag compared to the original. I wasn't interested or attached to any of the characters other than Char & Amuro, in fact I disliked most of the main cast.

Now time for Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ. Currently two episodes in. Very lighthearted and silly so far, not sure if that will end up being a relief or an awful imbalance that brings things down.

Gundam Wing is great. I remember watching it on the old school Toonami. I will have to watch it again.

At 4/3/16 08:41 PM, MasterStalker wrote:

At 3/26/16 09:58 AM, DeIirium wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0tIjw7fII

That literally only re-enforces my point that it's splitting hairs. The history lesson says just as much and the cultural difference referenced had to have been the niche group that needs to have a special name for everything. Even the guy's own rules confuse him. Anime = Animation. Animation = definition of what a motion cartoon is. My point still stands. Avatar TLA would be less "anime" and more ANIME if it were made in another part of the world. Also, because of all the back and forth of the thas page over this, DBZ, and such, this is relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mQScjlXbBE

its not splitting hairs at all. its simple, anime is animation made in japan. if youre going to say that avatar is anime you might as well say that all animation made anywhere is anime.

Clearly the greatest Gundam series is Build Fighters, not because it's the only one I've sat through but because it's literally just Yugioh with 100% more hot moms.

08th MS Team

At 4/4/16 09:24 AM, DeIirium wrote:

At 4/3/16 08:41 PM, MasterStalker wrote:

At 3/26/16 09:58 AM, DeIirium wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0tIjw7fII

That literally only re-enforces my point that it's splitting hairs. The history lesson says just as much and the cultural difference referenced had to have been the niche group that needs to have a special name for everything. Even the guy's own rules confuse him. Anime = Animation. Animation = definition of what a motion cartoon is. My point still stands. Avatar TLA would be less "anime" and more ANIME if it were made in another part of the world. Also, because of all the back and forth of the thas page over this, DBZ, and such, this is relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mQScjlXbBE

its not splitting hairs at all. its simple, anime is animation made in japan.

Animation made in Japan for a western audience is then anime, so Transformers which was an American cartoon is in fact anime. Under that logic at least. Animators outside of Japan still count as anime. Sooo..... All east Asian animation is anime? Then what if Mongolia or Laos or Russia want to get in on that action? Just localizing it doesn't fit at all, even when considering the linked video, that yes, I did take the time to watch all the way though.

It may have meant that at one point in the beginning, but when the lines blur as much as they do now its splitting hairs. Pongo is anime, but then people say the Disney dubs are not. How? It's the same piece of work. Boondocks sample the style heavily but I agree are not anime, nor did they ever claim to be or try to be. Dead Leaves is Asian, but looks like it belongs on cartoon network. Shin Chan is garbage animation and was put on cartoon network. Various things actually classed as anime are animated in Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, etc. Are these not truly not anime?

At the end of the day, arguing for the absolute purity of the topic and breaking down all these increasingly subtle differences into only minorly and almost needlessly different categories to say what is a true or false anime looks, at least to me, like one of those crazy clue walls you see on tv (pic included). And funny enough it's a difference that's only upheld by a fan base, because if there where true rules to be followed some sage like entity in a Japanese animation studio would have posted them for all the world to see easily decades ago.

if youre going to say that avatar is anime you might as well say that all animation made anywhere is anime.

I am in fact making that claim. It's literally split hairs over a translation of a word built up into some divine entity that it's not. Similarly, the word vodka in Russian is pronounced "water", but I'm not going to go the the bar, order a water, then bitch about the alcohol content because I have such an appreciation for the purism of Russian culture.

Do I like and appreciate anime? Absolutely. Has the style, or content been unique to the stuff I'd have otherwise seen state side? Oh, Yeah. But is it going to stay pure in our current world where globalization is a real thing? Nope. Lines blur, rules are bending and it's all melding together.

i think you could probably consider transformers anime, but not avatar since japan had nothing to do with it.

At 4/4/16 08:41 PM, DeIirium wrote: i think you could probably consider transformers anime, but not avatar since japan had nothing to do with it.

To be clear before we continue, I want to say this while we're still adults about it. (I've seen things go way off the rails around here in yester-years) I know I'm not changing anyone's opinion, I'm just stating mine. I just love a good passionate debate. We definitely have that going for us.

As for my opinion of Avatar, my original post on it said I know it's not true anime. But I also said that was only due to where it was produced. The setting and content has tons of east Asian scenery and spiritual reference points, most of the nations aesthetic is of varying Asian origin with the only exception being water nation being more Eskimo (which makes sense, come on) I'm sure the Avatar himself constantly being reborn is a shout out to some eastern religion. The animation style is looser, but it's still definitely far eastern in influence than it is westernized. If you were to sit a person down with no prior knowledge of it, from here or there, and have them watch a few episode with the Nickelodeon logo removed, I doubt very much they would be able to tell the difference.

And that's kind of my larger point. With how popular it is over here, and the fact that even Japanese businesses are marketing it directly at us westerners, actual anime and close enough anime are becoming the same thing. You think Crunchy roll or Funimation streaming services are over here with out the express plan to tap into our market? Even Netflix and Hulu have huge collections of anime. 5, 10 years ago, we didn't have any of this. That's indicative of the times changing, and part of that change is going to be cultural definitions. We can fight it, pointlessly, or we can just embrace it and be happy we're getting easier access to the stuff we enjoy. I'm guessing we see where I stand on that.

In any case, cheers to everyone, I'm done rambling. I've had my fun but I'm sure most of you are sick of my arrogant opinionated ass posting long diatribes, lol.

So, what do you guys think of Teen Titans Go in retrospect to the original? I'm not to impressed with the childish they gave it, but I still don't mind the show being there. Except for that Cartoon Network airs it so much just like SpongeBob!