At 4/24/08 05:02 PM, Gendo wrote: This house was built on crazed oldschool elitism, goddammit.

You kids and your high production values.

You're living in the past, old man.

The future is fluidity.

At 4/24/08 05:14 PM, Kuro wrote: You're living in the past, old man.

The future is fluidity.

Fluidity? Feh, this modern shit is so bogged down in CGI and stiff movements that it boggles the mind.

Slick character designs are meaningless. Actual movement is the essential bit. Not enough series get that right these days.

The original Jojo's Bizarre Adventures OVAs have more fluid animation than anything you darn punks watch.

At 4/24/08 05:18 PM, Gendo wrote:

At 4/24/08 05:14 PM, Kuro wrote: You're living in the past, old man.

The future is fluidity.

Fluidity? Feh, this modern shit is so bogged down in CGI and stiff movements that it boggles the mind.

Slick character designs are meaningless. Actual movement is the essential bit. Not enough series get that right these days.

Very much so the scene in it involving geb was amazing especially the canteen head severing and then containing the head inside it.

The original Jojo's Bizarre Adventures OVAs have more fluid animation than anything you darn punks watch.

At 4/24/08 05:18 PM, Gendo wrote: Fluidity? Feh, this modern shit is so bogged down in CGI and stiff movements that it boggles the mind.

Woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah.

GeneraliSAtions.

At 4/24/08 05:32 PM, Kuro wrote: Woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah.

GeneraliSAtions.

Pretty poor counter argument...

Face it, most of the shows out there these days have high-gloss art and pretty damn stiff animation.

KyoAni stuff is the major exception, but vapid stories are no tradeoff for nice animation.

At 4/24/08 05:38 PM, Gendo wrote: Face it, most of the shows out there these days have high-gloss art and pretty damn stiff animation.

It really depends on what sort of series it is.

If it's an action series, chances are it's going to look less stiff due to the characters having more to do.

KyoAni stuff is the major exception, but vapid stories are no tradeoff for nice animation.

I enjoy their shows.

Oh well, it's a good thing I never choose a series I watch based on how fluid their animation is.

I never have.

At 4/24/08 05:44 PM, Kuro wrote: It really depends on what sort of series it is.

If it's an action series, chances are it's going to look less stiff due to the characters having more to do.

Meh, enough action shows these days look bad.

The first and third of the new Hokuto no Ken movies are pretty cruddily animated.

Oh well, it's a good thing I never choose a series I watch based on how fluid their animation is.

I never have.

You want a pat on the back for stating the obvious?

You're still plenty superficial, youngling.

At 4/24/08 06:00 PM, Gendo wrote: Meh, enough action shows these days look bad.

I don't watch action shows very often.

The first and third of the new Hokuto no Ken movies are pretty cruddily animated.

WELL I KNOW I WON'T BE WATCHING THEM, THEN.

You want a pat on the back for stating the obvious?

Yes.

Yes I do.

You're still plenty superficial, youngling.

I'll choose a series based on if it's well directed or not.

Is that superficial?

At 4/24/08 06:03 PM, Kuro wrote: WELL I KNOW I WON'T BE WATCHING THEM, THEN.

The new voice cast is also shite, and they're taking too many liberties with the plot, so you're missing out on absolutely nothing of value.

Unless burly men voiced by celebrities puking up and/or crying blood is your thing, then by all means, dive right in.

Yes.

Yes I do.

I'm not anywhere near by at the moment, so yeah, ask someone else.

I'll choose a series based on if it's well directed or not.

Is that superficial?

You've made some awfully foolish statements in the past, sonny boy, so I hardly think raising one question like this will cover over your well-established shallowness.

Well-directed animation is hardly a shallow thing to desire, but it seems that you only bother to watch recently-produced and often brain-dead shite as a result. It's almost as if you intentionally seek this stuff out just because it's easy on the eyes.

Visual appeal is not everything.

At 4/24/08 06:10 PM, Gendo wrote: Well-directed animation is hardly a shallow thing to desire, but it seems that you only bother to watch recently-produced and often brain-dead shite as a result. It's almost as if you intentionally seek this stuff out just because it's easy on the eyes.

That's where you're wrong.

I watch series based on what sounds interesting to me.

I watched all those KyoAni series because I saw The Melancholy and Lucky Star, and thought "I liked those, I'll probably like these".

It just so happens that I've been watching recent anime because they interested me more, and were more easy to acquire than older series.

I've never continued watching a series I found "brain dead" because it pleased my eyes.

At 4/24/08 06:19 PM, Kuro wrote: I've never continued watching a series I found "brain dead" because it pleased my eyes.

That's where you're wrong.

Not once did I say that you were continuing to watch things you found to be trash beause they looked good. Although that said, you did complain a fair bit about Kanon's insane predictability.

You may want to read a bit closer next time. I said the plots of most of these shows are vapid, not that you personally found them to be devoid of anything but pretty pictures and kept on truckin' regardless.

At 4/24/08 06:29 PM, Gendo wrote: That's where you're wrong.

Not once did I say that you were continuing to watch things you found to be trash beause they looked good.

You said that I seeked out "brain dead shite".

Obviously I did not find them to be so.

Although that said, you did complain a fair bit about Kanon's insane predictability.

Actually, it was its terrible structure that I complained about.

Kanon wasn't a great series, but it was easily watchable.

A good time waster.

You may want to read a bit closer next time. I said the plots of most of these shows are vapid, not that you personally found them to be devoid of anything but pretty pictures and kept on truckin' regardless.

I read what you said, I just didn't quote you directly.

The plots of the shows that I've been watching themselves aren't interesting, because essentially none of the shows had plots.

They had characters in a general setting, and played it out with that as the basis.

At 4/24/08 06:34 PM, Kuro wrote: You said that I seeked out "brain dead shite".

Seemed to seek out.

An inference is not the same as presenting such things as fact.

Actually, it was its terrible structure that I complained about.

Kanon wasn't a great series, but it was easily watchable.

I don't do easily watchable.

I want genuine enjoyment, not a way to waste half an hour.

A good time waster.

Books are a better one.

Or walking the streets at two AM.

Or both at the same time.

The plots of the shows that I've been watching themselves aren't interesting, because essentially none of the shows had plots.

Y'see, shit like that comes off as insanely boring nine times out of ten.

WHY DON'T WE JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE SINCE NONE OF THESE ARGUMENTS GO PAST "Kuro watches newer anime because its conveinent, occassionally stooping to lesser programs because it's better than nothing" AND "Gendo is ridiculously picky and hates trends", AMIRITE?!

At 4/24/08 06:40 PM, Gendo wrote: Seemed to seek out.

An inference is not the same as presenting such things as fact.

Feh.

I don't do easily watchable.

I want genuine enjoyment, not a way to waste half an hour.

I was in a time wasting mood.

I'm not now.

Books are a better one.

Or walking the streets at two AM.

Or both at the same time.

Reading? Reading's for sissys.

I should get around to finishing that Murakami book I'm reading.

Y'see, shit like that comes off as insanely boring nine times out of ten.

I got lucky.

WHY DON'T WE JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE SINCE NONE OF THESE ARGUMENTS GO PAST "Kuro watches newer anime because its conveinent, occassionally stooping to lesser programs because it's better than nothing" AND "Gendo is ridiculously picky and hates trends", AMIRITE?!

That's not the spirit.

At 4/24/08 06:43 PM, Kuro wrote: Feh.

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU, PICCOLO?!

DON'T "FEH" AT ME, BOY!

I was in a time wasting mood.

I'm not now.

Wasting time is....well, quite redundantly, a waste of time.

I've been trying to make more efficient use of my free time lately, and it seems to be working. I'm much less bored than I used to be.

A steady diet of JRPGs, Frisky Dingo and Kaiji does one good.

That's not the spirit.

No point in beating a dead horse that's already been dug up like a thousand times.

It doesn't even resemble a horse anymore.

It's just a hideous pile....ugh, that was a bad cliche to use, now I'm imagining a rotting pile of horse flesh.

I heard a rumor that Dreamworks has plans for a 3-D live-action Ghost in the Shell movie. Can anyone confirm this?

At 4/24/08 07:38 PM, MrTrivia wrote: I heard a rumor that Dreamworks has plans for a 3-D live-action Ghost in the Shell movie. Can anyone confirm this?

100% true.

I don't think much info has been released, but Spielberg himself confirmed the rumours a few weeks ago.

At 4/24/08 08:11 PM, Gendo wrote:

At 4/24/08 07:38 PM, MrTrivia wrote: I heard a rumor that Dreamworks has plans for a 3-D live-action Ghost in the Shell movie. Can anyone confirm this?

100% true.

I don't think much info has been released, but Spielberg himself confirmed the rumours a few weeks ago.

Wait, does that mean Spielberg will be directing it?

At 4/24/08 08:43 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Wait, does that mean Spielberg will be directing it?

Likely not, but he's probably going to be a producer or something.

At 4/24/08 09:20 PM, Gendo wrote:

At 4/24/08 08:43 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Wait, does that mean Spielberg will be directing it?

Likely not, but he's probably going to be a producer or something.

I bet it'll suck.

At 4/24/08 04:43 PM, Kuro wrote:

At 4/24/08 10:02 AM, JohnnyWang wrote: different storkes and folks, you know.

Oh come now.

You know that's not how this club works.

Uh, I just joined like two, three pages ago, no I really don't, :P

Now, I'm a bit blind to the nuances of animation, sure I can spot really shitty ones, but mostly I can't tell if it's an arse or lunchtime.

At 4/25/08 09:53 AM, Grammer wrote: This has to be the oldest club on all of Newgrounds

Also, I really don't like anime, but I've been watching this one series on Youtube which I found to be entertaining at first, but hasn't really gone anywhere. One episode problems with one episode solutions, with no real depth.

Care to name the Anime?

At 4/25/08 10:54 AM, Grammer wrote: Girls Bravo.

Oh, well no wonder it's getting repetitive.

Girls Bravo is one of those kinda shows I could never watch because I could tell based on just looking at it that it'd eventually just degenerate into the same old shit every time. I'll admit I do watch some repetitive stuff (Hokuto no Ken jumps between interesting multi-part arcs and just like six episodes of Kenshiro punching guys in the face), but I find repeating plot devices to be really tiring (having a hard time watching Ranma 1/2 these days, since I just hit the middle of the big "fillers and rehashes" season).

I'm starting to really get hooked into non-episodic shows, like Kaiji, that have a continuous plot running from episode one to the very end. Since it rarely even takes time to show us something other than a major event or something leading into a major event showing, it has thankfully spared us the anime cliche of blatant worthless episodes (that said, the first season only wrapped up a few weeks ago and the manga's been running weekly since 1998, so it'll be a long time before fillers will be necessary to create, if ever).

I'm stuck between Tales of Earthsea, Paprika, Paranoia Agent and Gilgamesh.
Paranoia Agent seems to be the shortest of them.
Also, is AirGear worth watching?

I remember seeing Ghost in the Shell in store, the film.
Should I watch the series first or vice-versa?

The difference between the manga and anime of Makai Senki Disgaea is just shit.

At 4/25/08 02:08 PM, Corky-D wrote: I'm stuck between Tales of Earthsea, Paprika, Paranoia Agent and Gilgamesh.
Paranoia Agent seems to be the shortest of them.

Paranoia Agent is also the best out of those.

Tales of Earthsea is pretty mediocre, btw.

Also, is AirGear worth watching?

No.

I remember seeing Ghost in the Shell in store, the film.
Should I watch the series first or vice-versa?

Your choice, really. It won't affect the story too much either way.

I was browsing the Internets and came upon an anime called Gintama is it worth pursuing?

At 4/25/08 02:15 PM, BloodSplice wrote: I was browsing the Internets and came upon an anime called Gintama is it worth pursuing?

Very supremely yes.

Probably the one good shonen series out there these days.

At 4/25/08 02:10 PM, Gendo wrote:

At 4/25/08 02:08 PM, Corky-D wrote: I'm stuck between Tales of Earthsea, Paprika, Paranoia Agent and Gilgamesh.
Paranoia Agent seems to be the shortest of them.

Paranoia Agent is also the best out of those.

Good, I'll get that first.

Tales of Earthsea is pretty mediocre, btw.

Money saved.

Also, is AirGear worth watching?

No.

More money saved.

I remember seeing Ghost in the Shell in store, the film.
Should I watch the series first or vice-versa?

Your choice, really. It won't affect the story too much either way.

In that case I will be watching the film first.

At 4/25/08 02:18 PM, Gendo wrote:

At 4/25/08 02:15 PM, BloodSplice wrote: I was browsing the Internets and came upon an anime called Gintama is it worth pursuing?

Very supremely yes.

Probably the one good shonen series out there these days.

Ok so far this show is extremely good the first episode is kicking ass.

At 4/25/08 02:29 PM, Corky-D wrote: In that case I will be watching the film first.

Despite my vehement dislike of the first movie, that's a pretty good call for those new to the franchise, since you'll know who everybody is.

Not too much exposition in the series.

At 4/25/08 02:32 PM, BloodSplice wrote: Ok so far this show is extremely good the first episode is kicking ass.