At 7/26/07 03:23 AM, HaroFreak wrote:

At 7/26/07 03:15 AM, Fremen wrote: Naruto Spoilers OVer!!!!!

You might as well keep it to the Naruto thread instead of spamming here you know. <_<

Can you even spoil Naruto here.

Oh, and they showed his right eye! And Obito lost his left sharingan eye!

AND! Just that bit of dialogue doesn't mean that Tobi is Madara...it could mean he has the power of Madara.

It all unfolds as it should

At 7/26/07 03:33 AM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Oh, and they showed his right eye! And Obito lost his left sharingan eye!

The controversy continues. We don't even know for sure at this moment.

Maybe it can be all a ninja skill to mess with the viewers and spawn all kinds of online rumors.

It all unfolds as it should

Maybe we underestimated that Kishimoto.
Good Kishimoto, you look like you're hiding some powers.

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What a haul today, not only did R.O.D came as a set for only $120 HKD, I even found a rare gem drawn by Tooru Fujisawa (sounds familiar?) called "Kamen Teacher". More student beating-up madness mixed with a strong hint of bike-riding Sentai is literally for the win.

At 7/25/07 09:40 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Best example of a preferred English voice would be Excel Excel.

I personally can't stand the English Excel voice.

But then again, when I'm watching the show in Japanese I have to read really fast, so that makes me have to concentrate more than I would in most other subtitled shows.

It really is quite a predicament.

The best example of an English voice I prefer would probably still be Cowboy Bebop for... Well... Everyone except maybe Ed.

I quite like the voice for Ed in the Japanese version.

The other voices sound horribly out of place on the characters in Japanese.

At 7/26/07 05:39 AM, Kuro wrote: The other voices sound horribly out of place on the characters in Japanese.

Because some things just don't work for some languages, even if made by their own people.

Which brings to attention that other countries should be doing their part in animating for their own audiences instead of shitting up to Japan to make it for them. <_<

At 7/26/07 05:39 AM, Kuro wrote: I personally can't stand the English Excel voice.

I found her aggravating to listen to.

Excel Saga had an obnoxious dub.

But then again, when I'm watching the show in Japanese I have to read really fast, so that makes me have to concentrate more than I would in most other subtitled shows.

Yeah, lightining quick subs are hard on the eyes and mind.

I quite like the voice for Ed in the Japanese version.

The other voices sound horribly out of place on the characters in Japanese.

Much agreed.

Ed was really, really good in the Japanese version (particularly her random little bits of singing), but everyone else was ill-fitting.

Bebop flat-out has the best damn dub ever.

At 7/26/07 05:49 AM, Gendo wrote: Excel Saga had an obnoxious dub.

The trailers seemed so much better on the first hear-out. <.<

Ed was really, really good in the Japanese version (particularly her random little bits of singing), but everyone else was ill-fitting.

Tell me if this is still the case, but do the dubbers for other languages actually try to force-sing their way into their own language?

Bebop flat-out has the best damn dub ever.

Must have been easier with the target audience.

Now Lucky Star and other culture-heavy animations, I bet there would be hell raised it mismanaged (and easily mismanaged it is unless the original Afureco group hand-picked and managed the multi-language dubbing).

At 7/26/07 05:49 AM, Gendo wrote: Bebop flat-out has the best damn dub ever.

That really depends on whether or not movies are included in this ranking.

Things like Princess Mononooke and Spirited Away had some pretty awesome dubs.

Though I suppose that also depends on whether or not this is based on how much better the dub is than the original language version, or just how good the dub is compared to other anime dubs..

At 7/26/07 05:55 AM, HaroFreak wrote: Tell me if this is still the case, but do the dubbers for other languages actually try to force-sing their way into their own language?

Depends, I've seen some dubs that do it and others that just let the original audio play.

If it's for comedic effect, it's usually dubbed.

What happens to Guts in the manga? I forgot.

At 7/26/07 05:49 AM, Gendo wrote: Ed was really, really good in the Japanese version (particularly her random little bits of singing)

I even have a few songs by Ed on my computer for some reason...

It's really odd to have Tank! as sung by Ed come on when it's on random.

Or even more so for 3.14.

Maru wa medama, maru wa kirei...

Circles and eyeballs, circles are pretty...

At 7/26/07 06:30 AM, Kuro wrote: I even have a few songs by Ed on my computer for some reason...

LE GASP

Fucking need those, sauce plox?

At 7/26/07 06:19 AM, Gendo wrote: Depends, I've seen some dubs that do it and others that just let the original audio play.

I ask because I remember accidentally browsing through the TV channels only to come across the dubbed version of Rockman EXE by Kids' WB.

At that point, they actually tried to forcefully add singing of actual album songs by the dubbers. I'll leave the rest of the mind-burning idea to your imagination.

If it's for comedic effect, it's usually dubbed.

I am yet to hear it get messed up by recent dubbing QUALITY/quality, at the very least.

At 7/26/07 05:39 AM, Kuro wrote:

At 7/25/07 09:40 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Best example of a preferred English voice would be Excel Excel.

I personally can't stand the English Excel voice.

Which one? Jessica Calvello in season one (eps 1-13), or Larissa Wolcott in season two (eps 14-26)? I heard that Jessica lost her voice because there was so much screaming involved with her lines.

At 7/26/07 06:40 AM, Gendo wrote:

At 7/26/07 06:30 AM, Kuro wrote: I even have a few songs by Ed on my computer for some reason...

LE GASP

Fucking need those, sauce plox?

I have no idea where you could download them individually.

As I remember, I think I downloaded them a year or 2 ago in a torrent of all The Seatbelts songs.

Which would clearly explain the fact that I have all the Seatbelts songs on my computer.

At 7/26/07 06:48 AM, Kuro wrote: I have no idea where you could download them individually.

Shit, now I must go searching....

Need to find these songs...

At 7/26/07 06:48 AM, Kuro wrote: As I remember, I think I downloaded them a year or 2 ago in a torrent of all The Seatbelts songs.

Think websites would have a bunch of sound clips relevant to interests like many lesser fansites of other shows?

At 7/26/07 06:47 AM, MrTrivia wrote: I heard that Jessica lost her voice because there was so much screaming involved with her lines.

What? That's just unheard of. Or maybe it's because Jessica messed up more than the script's full length several times over in such short intervals? <.<

Ah well, just more proof that the person who voiced Sailor Moon, Katsuragi Misato and Murre Ramius isn't just for show.

At 7/26/07 06:53 AM, Gendo wrote:

At 7/26/07 06:48 AM, Kuro wrote: I have no idea where you could download them individually.

Shit, now I must go searching....

Need to find these songs...

As an act of kindness I've uploaded both to my Putfile. I don't think any other songs sung by Ed were put onto the CDs.

Though I could be mistaken.

3.14
Sasurai No Cowboy (Cowboy Bebop Theme) - Sung By Ed

I think you can download them from there, but I'm not too sure.

Either way, you can still listen to them.

At 7/26/07 06:25 AM, TacticalShoe wrote: What happens to Guts in the manga? I forgot.

*******************SPOILERS FOR BERSERK/kinda***************************
**

* Black Swordsman Arc: (V1-V3 ch3)

* Golden Age Arc: (V3 ch4-V14 ch3)
* Retribution Arc: (V14 ch3-V21)
o Chapter of the Lost Children;
o Chapter of the Binding Chain;
o Chapter of the Birth Ceremony;
* Millennium Falcon Arc: (V21-current)
o Chapter of the Record of the Holy Demon War;
o Chapter of Falconia.

This is the current arcs in the series. After the Conviction ark 'Hawk' is changed to 'Falcon' for some reason. During this time also Miura goes with a normal set for the names selecting on 'Guts' versus various forms. Pack = Puck and so forth.

Berserk Time Line As best collected from the series and what Miura has told.

At 7/26/07 07:10 AM, Kuro wrote: As an act of kindness I've uploaded both to my Putfile. I don't think any other songs sung by Ed were put onto the CDs.

Just downloaded them, many thanks.

So in 10 hours from now, the Hong Kong Anicom would begin.

I would be going as a small group with a few who are going in with CosPlay including myself (because according to the organiser, costume = free admission, and what better time to try myself as Black Jack?). Pics would be taken as I go; of group members, other CosPlayers as well as getting some of myself (if that darned hair colour just works better than it does during tests. <.<).

I would put up a brief report as to how the China-Animation booths and displays will have shown their newest 'work' in a week's time as I need to go to Korea for a conference right afterwards.

Of course, stay tuned as I would get back to NG/A/ as soon as everything in front of me is over and done with.

At 7/26/07 11:43 AM, HaroFreak wrote: I need to go to Korea for a conference right afterwards.

The only animes I can think of that I've seen from Asia, besides Japan of course, are Wonderful Days and Ark from South Korea.

At 7/26/07 11:52 AM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: The only animes I can think of that I've seen from Asia, besides Japan of course, are Wonderful Days and Ark from South Korea.

And of course, outsourced material does not count at all. XP

But no, the conference is not related to animation or comics at all (just to let you know).

At 7/26/07 12:03 PM, HaroFreak wrote:

At 7/26/07 11:52 AM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: The only animes I can think of that I've seen from Asia, besides Japan of course, are Wonderful Days and Ark from South Korea.

And of course, outsourced material does not count at all. XP

If that was true, then the debate over what "anime" is would get complicated. The first season of Harvey Birdman is Korean anime?

But no, the conference is not related to animation or comics at all (just to let you know).

Well of course, but Korea doesn't come up often. Not many anime conferences that the public can attend are there? Too bad anime studios can't have an E3-Song-Microsoft-Nintendo type event, where they talk about the animes that are coming out this year and next year, as well as show off some new stuff...not sure what they could show though. Maybe new animation program/style...

At 7/26/07 12:16 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: If that was true, then the debate over what "anime" is would get complicated. The first season of Harvey Birdman is Korean anime?

Which just adds to the fact that the basics are always the most important thing, which means it also adds to my argument.

"Anime, pronounced ah-nie-may, is the shorthand name given to the term Animation by the Japanese because it is much easier to put in their words than the common term Cartoon. Unlike western definitions, the term Anime can be used for all forms of cartoons and therefore disregards origin of production or directing body."

If I must, this can even be my PhD thesis in several years' time.

Maybe new animation program/style...

Like you stated, I believe such would only be reserved for software demonstrations. I doubt any self-dignified company would go around advertising techniques and skills used for their own work for free. I know I wouldn't unless it was a classroom lecture for near-graduating university students (even that has pay for me involved so no count).

At 7/26/07 01:48 PM, Akatsuki321 wrote: I hope this set has every season and episode.

If it's the Taiwan releases, there is a small chance that they include the OVAs without being said on the box. XP

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I just dared to hear how the dubbed (English) version of the Black Jack OVA sounds like and ironically and tragically, only the dark doctors' voices sound wrong as they sounded way too high pitched compared to their usually stoic and schadenfreude nature which has been portrayed perfectly by their original voice actors.

And since neither the first TV Remake nor the 'sequel' has been licensed in the US, I can say that you lot won't be seeing it in stores unless they are imports from Japan. XP

At 7/26/07 02:09 PM, Akatsuki321 wrote: Already got the OVA's and both films from the other set.

Nice, nice.

Oh man, they fucked up Black Jack too? Ugh good grief.....

You're telling me. <_<
But yes, I listened to the two one after another and the contrast was just terrible compared to the original.

Seems like it since i want to check it out.

Have 'luck' importing them, since even I have trouble finding the DVD releases. <.<

Well I think I am going to get This Ugly Yet Beautiful World. I hear good things about it, it is by Gainax (which I started loving), and it's only 12 episodes.

At 7/26/07 06:48 PM, Akatsuki321 wrote: From what i read about it, the show is full of fan-service that can get annoying at times but there is some good character development and a enjoyable story.

Well fanservice doesn't annoy me. And it wasn't the fanservice in Amaenaideyo!! that put me off the show, it was just the...boringness of it, because the fanservice was required. It also wasn't that hot either.

I don't think I have to worry about Fanservice issue with Gainax anyways. I mean they started the jiggle and show plenty of nip. They even made a Beach episode where the hot girl wore MORE clothes than normal...though wearing less would be difficult.

Rei was fucking naked throughout practically all of EoE!

At 7/26/07 07:29 PM, Akatsuki321 wrote:

A show that relys on fan service is pathetic.

Yep, they need to have some good comedy and deeper relationship to make a series with heavy fanservice good...like the Love Hina manga. In Diebuster and Gunbuster, the girls HAD to rip their shirts open...to extract/replace the core of their Super Robots.

Rei was fucking naked throughout practically all of EoE!

So that's why Evangelion fans just ate that film up.

Also the Comatose Asuka Boobies! (So good Shinji jerked off because of them...sick little bastard)

Hey guys, I figured out a major spoiler for naruto. N comes after M, and before M is the letter L. So, as you can clearly see, Sakura is L in drag.