Well 2d is more original so thats better, 3d wont last long, like, not everything on tv will become 3d animations and what not.
It will take them too long to make and what not.
So, 2d will stick around forever. Until they find a way to make 3d animations easier which i hope never happens. Unless they get it to look like real people like how sons of butcher had their faces and stuff.
But that wasnt made with a thing like Maya and stuff, that was actually their faces just digitally enhanced kinda...
But like if 3d animations can get that good i wouldnt mind.

At 10/13/07 03:18 PM, hashbrown wrote: i heard a while back disney was told that their 3d movies suck (not the pixar ones) and so they have a movie underworks (maybe its done by now) done by traditional animation to try and capture the glory days of when they had the lion king, beauty and the beast ect

I swear to god if it is another fucking sequel to one of the classics I will light disney headquarters on fire.

And whatever jumbled thing luke just said, as 3d animation gets better and easier to make it will become even more prominent...And I agree with whoever said they don't llike 3d shows, they are all crap, I suppose they make for good kiddy shows though.

At 10/13/07 03:07 PM, luke734 wrote: But like if 3d animations can get that good i wouldnt mind.

Why would you want animation to be that realistic? Surely it denies imagination and innovation. I'd rather see a quirky artsy 3D animation than an uber-realistic one. If you want realism, watch something with actual actors...

i heard a while back disney was told that their 3d movies suck (not the pixar ones) and so they have a movie underworks (maybe its done by now) done by traditional animation to try and capture the glory days of when they had the lion king, beauty and the beast ect

If that's true I'll be so incredibly happy. Disney has made nothing but shitty semi-3D computer generated 2D sequels the last decade (apart from the Pixar movies), that's what it feels like anyway. Disney must have a virtually unlimited source of brilliant animators/artists from 'back in the day'. It would be so cool if they put all of the people behind Pinocchio, Peter Pan, the Lion King, the Beauty and the Beast etc. together to create a real 2D animated movie.

Because man, when I watch a movie with Jim Carrey, I know who it is. I will be like, he isnt really a killer. He is Jim Carrey, a comedian.
But if 3d animation got real enough to make them look like real people you wont know who it is, and for all you know it is a real killer.
And all they would have to do is voice act, like, how they do for shrek and stuff. But with voices, it could be a girl doing a guys voice. Like for bart simpson, its a female voice actor.
With technology these days though, it could just happen.

At 10/13/07 03:07 PM, luke734 wrote: Well 2d is more original so thats better, 3d wont last long, like, not everything on tv will become 3d animations and what not.
It will take them too long to make and what not.
So, 2d will stick around forever. Until they find a way to make 3d animations easier which i hope never happens. Unless they get it to look like real people like how sons of butcher had their faces and stuff.

Nope. 3D animation is already cheaper, faster and quicker to produce than traditional animation. Hence the issue.

At 10/13/07 03:29 PM, Coaly wrote:

At 10/13/07 03:18 PM, hashbrown wrote: i heard a while back disney was told that their 3d movies suck (not the pixar ones) and so they have a movie underworks (maybe its done by now) done by traditional animation to try and capture the glory days of when they had the lion king, beauty and the beast ect

I swear to god if it is another fucking sequel to one of the classics I will light disney headquarters on fire.

Sadly, its not even just Disney that does that crap. Hollywood sucks everything they can out of like every movie. There are hardly any new movies that aren't based off a book,graphic novel, or a past movie. Its completely ridiculous.

new sig ftw
And whatever jumbled thing luke just said, as 3d animation gets better and easier to make it will become even more prominent...And I agree with whoever said they don't llike 3d shows, they are all crap, I suppose they make for good kiddy shows though.

3d

Can be just as creative and imaginative as 2d... saying you hate all of them is most certainly due to bias. Once they make a good 3d tv show I'm sure several minds will be swayed, just because they're all bad now doesn't mean they will all be bad in the future. Must I remind you southpark is 3d designed to look like 2d in order to speed up the animating process?

I prefer the feel of 2d animation now but that's not to say that all 3d animatino is bad, just whats already been made.

Parents and Flash

My mom ends up seeing alot of my tests just by walking into my room, or I leave t he swf looping on my computer just out of forgetfulness, she always says something nice but she really sees it as a distraction from school.
She does back my desire to go to art school if that be my decision though. My dad has always been behind anything I put my mind to, my parents are generally super supportive. Even though I'm sure like everyone else's they bitch alot.

Didn't disney close all of their 2d animation studios? I imagine it would be more publicised if they opened a new one

DA

I have one that i'm trying to fill up before I give out the link or my username on it... I never see criticism though and that would be what I'm looking for.

I'd like to get back to flash after this long break, as I haven't finished any flashes for years. I thought about a strategy game to start with, but if any skilled flash animator wants to help I'm open for ideas.

hai guyz

DA0

Just comment onother peoples pages and they'll go to yours.

3d
3d is for wimps >:( yeah the models take longer to make but so what? its harder to draw something in loads of angles, and make it look the same, than it is to make a 3d model, i dont get what the big deal is with 3d, i enjoyed the simpsons movie alot more than shrek, or cars or any of that, because 2-d just looks better.

street painting
the evolution thing was awesome, that mustve taken an age, and a ladder, and loads of paint, imagination and drawing skills, and the bitey one was awesome aswell.

Halloween

happy halloween in.... 18 days!

Re: Gay Friends

One of my best friends growing up, we'll call him 'Cake Boy', has admitted he was gay. Yeah, kinda weirded me out but the way he came out of the closet surprised me. He posted it on myspace and then made his default picture one of him resting his head on his "friend's" chest.

I looked at it and was like "...huh?".

I never spoke to Cake Boy again. Not because he's gay, I have no problem with that. he just hasn't tried to contact me since he turned gay.

At 10/13/07 05:17 PM, fwe wrote: hai guyz

you haven't been around for a while

At 10/13/07 05:29 PM, Siggy0501 wrote:

At 10/13/07 05:17 PM, fwe wrote: hai guyz

you haven't been around for a while

hihihiih

I left when all the noobs started to join the forums and everyone seemed to have left

I might as well come back too...

Parents and Flash

My parents are strongly against like... swearing and stuff, so most of my animations I keep a secret. Some, though, like christmas things I let them see. All in all, they like what I'm doing, but I'm sure that my dad would rather have me working with him on my yard or something.

Parents and Flash

My parents and close friends know I do flash, and all think its pretty cool. My dad, whos an ICT teacher btw and a computer whizz, every now and then asks if I can make something for him, or asks me for suggestions why his programs he's writing doesnt work (he doesnt rely on me - far from it, but if nothings doing, I have a quick look and 98% of the time I have no idea :P ). Very funny when he had to teach flash to his class, and I had to teach him everything before hand.

Connected to the interwebs

Finally got this fucking internet to this computer working. I've had to flash here then internet on me mums laptop and USB stick everything for the last month and a half. I am now a happy bunny. Untill it breaks.

Odd time to unleash my new sig, eh?

At 10/13/07 05:19 PM, Splurda wrote: 3d
3d is for wimps >:( yeah the models take longer to make but so what? its harder to draw something in loads of angles, and make it look the same, than it is to make a 3d model, i dont get what the big deal is with 3d, i enjoyed the simpsons movie alot more than shrek, or cars or any of that, because 2-d just looks better.

Obviosly you have never tried making an animation in 3D. It is a lot harder than it looks :/ And making a good model is also not easy. So stop trying to know everything.

The cake is a lie..
So I just finished Half Life 2: Ep2 today, and Portal yesterday.. Personally, I think Portal has the BEST ending EVER made. It was just too great.. I've watched it a couple of times now. Can't wait for the sequel (Which we all know is going to come :p) Also the cliffhanger from Ep 2 made me rather angry.. Very angry indeed. Oh so very angry .. grrrrrr... Now to wait 2-3 years for hte next ep (well maybe not that long..)

At 10/13/07 05:53 PM, hashbrown wrote:

At 10/13/07 05:49 PM, trig1 wrote:

Odd time to unleash my new sig, eh?

i decalre a sig war :O

lol, the person who's sig the sig trend is based on can't declare a sig war, it's in sig trends section 2 part a.

And yea a few old regs have popped in, I know cybex has been around before this sorta...

Anyway whoever said it before, I think it was Lujis, the subject of being a reg or old regs or new regs comes up too often in this thread, it's annoying, no one cares.

At 10/13/07 05:17 PM, fwe wrote: hai guyz

No, fuck you. Go away.

P hai fwe :3

Kenkaikon

It was good! I ended up playing a lot of video games (Guilty Gear XX, Guitar Hero II, some crazy drumming game, some Street Fighter, some Naruto fighter game, and one round of DDR that I blew horse cock at), I got a funny hat, and a SHITLOAD of manga. I spent $80 on manga, but honestly, it was $4 a book. FOUR. They fucking usually sell for $10 a pop. I spent less than hlaf it would normally cost AND I GOT A WHOLE FUCKING SERIES THAT IS NO LONGER IN PRINT! I splooged my pants a bit at that.

I also hung out with one of the bands that was there, Hsu-nami. They're a punk rock band, but they have an ehru, a chinese fiddle of sorts. Too fucking cool. I ended up going out with them to get som food. Regardless, they kicked ass and were amazing live. I got a t-shirt and a cd, and I got the cd signed. Their site is http://www.hsu-nami.com . They had a really cute chick with them, but she was too old and I think her bf was in the band... ha ha ha.

I spent a lot of time in the panels and in the artist's alley though. I had a huge debate/discussion over western culture influence in anime and then Eastern culture influence in western culture (like Star Wars drew form some old movie Kurosawa film called The Hidden Fortress). Then, I chilled with some artists, did a little art, and I had a lively discussion with a few of the female artists of why they like to draw yaoi (gay anime... >_>). It actually came down to (for most of them) either they thought the characters made cute couples or the fact that male characters are simply easier to draw, not simply that they liked to draw Naruto and Sasuke suckin' each other's cocks. I learned a lot.

The only thing I regret is that I didn't bring a camera. There were a lot of good cosplyers. It almost made me wish I had cosplayed m'self.

Overall, it was fucking awesome. I can't wait for Diplocon in November (plus it's at my friend's college) and then I'm gonna try to hit Otakon in August next year (biggest Convention on the east cost). But, I'll have to balance whether I want to go to Comic-con with the Milburns or Otakon with my work friends or maybe even both... I guess I'll have to start saving T^T.

3d?

I would say it's pretty immature for people to hate 3d animation just because it easier. I can understand if you don't like how it looks, but if you hate 3d just because someone using Maya can make a rotating square faster then you can in Flash, you may have problems. How long you think it takes, or how easy you think it is shouldn't effect your view on it at all.

At 10/13/07 07:23 PM, Skeik-Sprite wrote: I would say it's pretty immature for people to hate 3d animation just because it easier. I can understand if you don't like how it looks, but if you hate 3d just because someone using Maya can make a rotating square faster then you can in Flash, you may have problems. How long you think it takes, or how easy you think it is shouldn't effect your view on it at all.

Exactly, animation techniques are constantly being developed in order to make the process of animating easier and more effective, and I can't see anything wrong with that.. I mean, it's natural and if they weren't we would be making animations with binary code :P

3D can choke on my cock

I hate 3D animation. Not because it's "too easy" or "because I think it's a cop-out", or even that "it's gay (which is not a legitimate insult anymore)", it's because almost every movie they have fucking made has sucked asshole through a straw.

Finding Nemo? Delicious like an ass cake.

Shrek? Rather fuck an electrical outlet, thank you.

Toy Story? Was good until they made like, 5 bazillion more sequels and raped it.

The Incredibles? Please. I'd take it in the ass before I had to watch that again.

I just hate how stupid the movies look, let alone they actually do suck. The way that they try to keep a cartoony style while making it "realistic" is bullshit. I mean, I might sound like a bit of a hypocrite, seeing as how I like anime, but none of the movies appeal to me. They all look like asscandy. I say stick with either combining 3D with real actors/actresses or go all 2D. It's just that it looks more professional and not like shit.

If they could manage to make a 3D movie that looked fucking realistic (the only ones that come to mind is Final Fantasy: Spirits Within or FF: Advent Children, which are GOOD), then I might enjoy it a bit more, but no, they all look like fucking retarded childrens cartoons on acid.

So, IMO, 2D > 3D. Fuck it in the butt.

Sorry John, but I won't be contributing to your paycheck if you get a job at Pixar :c

Hello
This is my flash i want to know if it would get blammed but i got to say its not done!
There is no sound yet and sound will probaly make it sound really good and make it act really good.
Also if anyone can get me like a movie theater voice for the begging of the movie where it says those lines thanks!
http://www.ngup.net/view.php?file=cool%2 0animie%20thingy

At 10/13/07 07:47 PM, Healthy wrote: Hello
This is my flash i want to know if it would get blammed but i got to say its not done!
There is no sound yet and sound will probaly make it sound really good and make it act really good.
Also if anyone can get me like a movie theater voice for the begging of the movie where it says those lines thanks!
http://www.ngup.net/view.php?file=cool%2 0animie%20thingy

That's a blam and I don't care if you put sound in it, it's still going to be a blam. Here are some reasons why; you don't know what's going on, there are people floating in the air, the art is simple and childish, two groups of people walking past each other is hardly a war, the animation is bad, the backgrounds are bad and the text at the beginning isn't aligned to anything.

Do not submit it to the portal. Just chalk it up to experience and move on to your next movie.

What a totally gay line of discussion though; seriously !?

At 10/12/07 12:01 PM, Paranoia wrote: At 10/12/07 03:17 PM, TheCriminalDuder wrote: 27 days is my record. A man can go without sleep for a long time. He just needs the right motivation and a never-ending supply of coffee. :)

I too want to know more. Was it really without any sleep AT ALL?

Also - what was the motivation?

Crazy pickle-eating mullet man.

Really? Because... you know... spending more than a week or so without sleeping can cause you to become... Well... dead.

I'm gonna sleep. Also, eat (whilst drawing), exercise (by skipping for short breaks) and use the toilet. And lastly take time to 'blog' the activity (which is essentially a rivalry between myself and Mr. Ladyboy).

I'll draw a solid 15 hours a day though.

I think the old one was when Pezzo asked Moose to make a sig for him similar to one he'd made for Luis. BM just crossed out Luis's name and then after seeing Pezzo's sig, Luis crossed out Pezzo's name and put in his own. I saw the 2 sigs with graffiti-style cross-outs and started playing myself and then it all kicked off.

Eventually though, with many folk playing, confusion arises as to whose version was the latest and we get multiple 'threads'.

It's not just a question of quality - also of immediacy and style - whether it caters to the low attention span and subjective tastes of the NG audience.

One overlooked subission: I think Skaijo's pickup 2 should've fared better.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/40 3352

At 10/13/07 10:39 PM, Bezman wrote:

At 10/12/07 12:01 PM, Paranoia wrote: At 10/12/07 03:17 PM, TheCriminalDuder wrote: 27 days is my record. A man can go without sleep for a long time. He just needs the right motivation and a never-ending supply of coffee. :)

You slept... 11 days without sleep you hullicinate a depacitating amount and at 15 I'm pretty sure your vital organs start to fail...

Not to call you out or anything, but I just did.

3d isn't easier than 2d, as the standard for 3d animation is so much higher, keeping track of a super complex skeleton and having to make all motion as real as life... easier to animate in 2d, unless you are doing a cinderella type thing, then its comprable.

..::sleep deprivation::..

Yeah.. the world record for sleep deprivation is 11 days. So that's bull. My record is five days, wasn't trying to stay up, I just had this drive to finish a project I was working on.

What's with these fuckin bold headline topic things?
What else have i missed these past 2 years?