At 6/13/10 10:44 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: Kirk went all 'This sentence is false on are asses'.

PROTIP: knugen isn't me.

At 6/13/10 11:49 AM, JordanD wrote: HOLY SHIT, A CURE FOR CANCER?!?!

too bad cures are cheaper than lifelong "treatments", so the drug companies would never go for it

At 6/13/10 12:23 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote:

At 6/13/10 11:49 AM, JordanD wrote: HOLY SHIT, A CURE FOR CANCER?!?!

too bad cures are cheaper than lifelong "treatments", so the drug companies would never go for it

I think if it gets enough media and actually WORKS once the human tests go through, they might be forced into doing it. I mean, if the entire WORLD is against the drug companies, couldn't they be sued even?

At 6/13/10 12:18 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote:

At 6/13/10 10:44 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: Kirk went all 'This sentence is false on are asses'.

PROTIP: knugen isn't me.

Pfft. Same level same aura. Your the same mod with 2 accounts in order to look like you have a life.

Also, I smell 'I am legend' coming on.

Is couriermail like The Sun over here?

At 6/13/10 03:25 PM, HDXmike wrote: i hate MySQL.

Also how embarrasing must it be for some people on TV knowing that people will be able to see all their flaws in HD, we have skysports HD and its just awesome seeing everyones little flaws in such detail

HD and big screens completely destroyed porn.

HD and big screens completely destroyed porn.

Yes. There's nothing quite like seeing someone's shoddy clone stamp work, which is coincidentally shaped like a Caesarean section scar, on an adult film star. Fake boobs and surgically re-attached nipples didn't really benefit from the HD treatment either. I'll bet they look super in 3d. Barf.

At 6/13/10 05:09 PM, HDXmike wrote: God I haven't voted in like 3 months

And you call yourself a reg, tut.

At 6/13/10 06:19 PM, HDXmike wrote: Also ben school is great

Oh, don't even get me started.

The good news? I finished that video project I was working on. Damn, it took all of yesterday and until 5:00PM today. I'm almost done with my To Kill a Mockingbird literary analysis and then I'm off to finish a study guide for my History class.

By the way, I keep discovering, more and more, just how much our textbooks lie to us. Texas has such a negative influence on the education of the United States as a whole. The book companies (the problem is that they are companies) print all of their books based on what Texas, being the largest buyer of textbooks in our country, wants to brainwash its children with, and it's affecting the whole damned system.

Abraham Lincoln was an honest-to-goodness freedom-for-the-slaves-fighter? Atheism has its roots in Communism? Evolution is a theory (OK, part of it is, but still)? We treated Native Americans fairly when we came to the Americas? Seriously, some of the bullshit in my textbooks is unbelievable.

That's why you have the interwubs.

At 6/13/10 04:24 PM, doctormario wrote:

HD and big screens completely destroyed porn.

Yes. There's nothing quite like seeing someone's shoddy clone stamp work, which is coincidentally shaped like a Caesarean section scar, on an adult film star. Fake boobs and surgically re-attached nipples didn't really benefit from the HD treatment either. I'll bet they look super in 3d. Barf.

I don't think I've seen any of that really. HD is just weird because even in real life we don't tend to see individual pores with each of their own light reflections glistening in complete focus.

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory (OK, part of it is, but still)?

balablabla i criticize textbooks and i dont know what im talking about

nevermind, you're 14, you still have time

At 6/13/10 08:17 PM, Toast wrote:

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory (OK, part of it is, but still)?

balablabla i criticize textbooks and i dont know what im talking about

balalblala i criticize other users in hopes of feeling better about myself

Shut the fuck up Toast. I'm not even going to bother arguing about this with you because you don't care the slightest as long as you get a kick out of pissing someone off.

At 6/13/10 07:53 PM, Starogre wrote: I don't think I've seen any of that really. HD is just weird because even in real life we don't tend to see individual pores with each of their own light reflections glistening in complete focus.

HDTV - More lifelike than life!

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: By the way, I keep discovering, more and more, just how much our textbooks lie to us.

Although I love the truth, I don't thing teaching 14-15 year olds that the hero that 'discovered' our country also raped and slaughtered the natives here is that great of an idea either.

It's better to find out on your own, later.

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote: Evolution is a theory

evolution IS a theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory#List _of_notable_theories

my chair does not exist

At 6/14/10 12:09 AM, Starogre wrote: my chair does not exist

Your intelligence is a theory.

@ Starogre, you are lucky. I've seen some real flimsy stuff. I still occasionally do some work for the porn industry (they pay good), and I've seen some stuff that really shouldn't have been filmed in HD. People should be blowing more of their budget on hot people, adept at getting on in new and exciting ways, than expensive cameras filming pole dancers from an Oklahoma truck stop. Eeeek.

@Archon. Most of my textbooks were bullshit when I was in school, back in the early 15th century. I can only imagine how silly they are now, with Darth Palin, and her neocon decency squad, trying to ban actual science, history, and art. Kudos to you for not letting them push the reset button on your brain.

At 6/14/10 12:56 AM, doctormario wrote: @Archon. Most of my textbooks were bullshit when I was in school, back in the early 15th century.

I keep forgetting that you're about 30 years off from most people here. As far as textbooks go, i'm not gonna gripe about what info is in my schoolbooks. It's not like its important or anything rofl. And those that would fully embrace the half-truths in textbooks are probably already too far brainwashed to be helped so just forget them.

At 6/14/10 01:15 AM, Josh-B wrote:

At 6/14/10 12:56 AM, doctormario wrote: @Archon. Most of my textbooks were bullshit when I was in school, back in the early 15th century.

I keep forgetting that you're about 30 years off from most people here. As far as textbooks go, i'm not gonna gripe about what info is in my schoolbooks. It's not like its important or anything rofl. And those that would fully embrace the half-truths in textbooks are probably already too far brainwashed to be helped so just forget them.

Agreed, i was reading that first part thinking he was like 17 until he said "I do work for the porn industry" and i was like ":O DOCTOR!"

At 6/13/10 07:06 PM, Archon68 wrote:

At 6/13/10 06:19 PM, HDXmike wrote: Also ben school is great

Seriously, some of the bullshit in my textbooks is unbelievable.

At least your textbooks aren't over a 100 years outdated; saying that the sun is the center of the universe.

The English textbooks lie but in a way that simplifies the things that would need really awkward questions, they're alright.

@Archon, Evolution is a theory in every way, as is the rest of science. Science is about coming up with theories that best fit the evidence. Every time evidence comes along that proves the theory wrong we either rethink the theory (e.g. Introduction of Einstein's theory of Relativity to expand on Newton's Laws of Motion), add to the theory (e.g. Introduction of dark matter) or get a new theory (e.g. the Theory of Evolution after Young Earth Creationism collapsed). The paradoxical thing about science is that nothing can ever be proved correct, things can only be proven wrong.
What's funny is every time we have a chemistry lesson my chemistry teacher will always state 'This isn't actually what happens but it's all you need to know".

Also, probably the most important statements in mathematics/logic ever theorised. (Again it's a theory, if it wasn't I suppose it would contradict itself.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godel%27s_i ncompleteness_theorem

At 6/14/10 05:44 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: Also, probably the most important statements in mathematics/logic ever theorised. (Again it's a theory, if it wasn't I suppose it would contradict itself.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godel%27s_i ncompleteness_theorem

Ehm not quite, Godels incompleteness theorem is proven, it is not a theory of science, but of mathematics.

Tt does not state that nothing can be proven only that an axiomatic system cannot be both complete and consistent (Aka, if everything can be proven in a system, you cannot prove that the system is actually right or not. And if you can prove that the system is consistent, there are things that cannot be proven with it)

At 6/14/10 06:04 AM, dELtaluca wrote:
Ehm not quite, Godels incompleteness theorem is proven, it is not a theory of science, but of mathematics.

Tt does not state that nothing can be proven only that an axiomatic system cannot be both complete and consistent (Aka, if everything can be proven in a system, you cannot prove that the system is actually right or not. And if you can prove that the system is consistent, there are things that cannot be proven with it)

Doesn't that kind of contradict itself? Also we base most of our modern science on mathematics so does it not relate?

i need to do more research. :(

At 6/14/10 07:08 AM, citricsquid wrote: isn't the difference that math is "absolute". It's based on a few absolute principles. Evolution is a theory because we can't prove it, but we "invented" numbers so we can say that 1+1 = 2 in absolute terms?

MAYBE NOT THIS SHIT IS COMPLICATED

But Godel's incompleteness theorem is about the fact there is no valid reason why 1+1=2. Right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations _of_mathematics#Foundational_crisis

At 6/14/10 08:42 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: But Godel's incompleteness theorem is about the fact there is no valid reason why 1+1=2. Right?

does it?

At 6/14/10 05:00 AM, citricsquid wrote: school is not about teaching you things, it's about teaching you how to learn.

It's not. The only thing it teaches is to sit on your ass and take bullshit. It might be appropriate preparation for many for what they're going to be doing the rest of their life, but it has nothing on real learning.
The things you do in your free time are learning.

At 6/14/10 07:08 AM, citricsquid wrote: isn't the difference that math is "absolute". It's based on a few absolute principles

These principles are called axioms. To prove things in math, you need to take a set of axioms from which you can compose theorems, the axioms comprise a theory, and theorems are truths that can be proven within the theory. Theories are thus like objects that you can compare to see what difference the difference in their axioms makes.
Up till the twentieth century, mathematicians were looking for the 'ultimate' set of axioms that could be used to prove all truths. The theory would thus be 'complete'. They also had to take care not to accidentally include an axiom that would allow contradictory truths to be derived from the theory, because this would make the theory 'inconsistent'.
Then Godel used arithmetic to prove that there is no consistent complete theory. This led to a high suicide rate among mathematicians in the thirties.

But thus the entire point is that there are no 'absolute principles'. So there isn't an ultimate reason for 1+1=2, but you need to adopt a theory to work with symbols, and with any reasonable theory the equality would be a fact.

And there are more interesting questions in math, like P versus NP and the Curry-Howard correspondence. Give me your best guess about those and I'll explain them too. :p