At 10/27/09 01:41 PM, BoMToons wrote: I grafixed a new game:

Brilliant! Great twist on the genre and I cant compliment you more on the art, its hard to make games like this look great and you really did! (looks a lot better than crush the castle imo).

Nice one, 5'ed!

where do you find your music?

At 10/27/09 02:09 PM, Jimp wrote:

At 10/27/09 01:41 PM, BoMToons wrote: I grafixed a new game:

Brilliant! Great twist on the genre and I cant compliment you more on the art, its hard to make games like this look great and you really did! (looks a lot better than crush the castle imo).

Thanks!

Nice one, 5'ed!

Gracias!

where do you find your music?

It's the same music the programmer used in the 1st game, I'm not sure where he got it, but I really liked that it used musical cues for the game sound effects, I thought that was a stylish touch.

At 10/27/09 01:41 PM, BoMToons wrote: I grafixed a new game:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/51 6016

I hated the first one, because it was so addictive. So I'm not going to start playing until I have sufficient spare time, ha! Art looks great though (took a short peek).

At 10/26/09 10:53 PM, zrb wrote: University/College

Have any of you payed it all by yourselves or are going to pay it all yourselves ?

I've payed for every dollar of my uni, classes, books, and all the fees. Everything. And ffffffffff..... it's cost me. I don't like the idea of loans and debt so I may be nearing the end of my uni days soon. Thankfully in the 2 years thus far I'm happy that I explored different subjects. Though now I am really trying to find something that goes somewhere. I never wish to work labour for the majority of my life.

I want to get into somethin artsy - writing, filmaking, flash, internet television, etc. Only taking poetry classes right now cause the campus I'm going to teaches philosophy, some writing, some theater, and mostly dentistry. Getting my license would be a good idea - then I could drive - but then more cost from air care, gas, car accidents, and court time after I run someone down in road-rage.

Flash tricks

I've never used motion guides - I forgot how. I was taught it along with tweens, and basic stop play and button pushing actionscript 2.0 way back in grade 9. I'm self taught but I really feel I owe a lot to how much I've grown on the support of others, the few compliments that ment so much, the astonishing eye-opening advice, and overall changing flash mentors and forever flash mentors I probably will always look up too even if a few years from now I'm collabing with them as equals on projects.

My main trick is drawing with a wacom instead of a mouse if ya call it a trick - though I find myself colouring with the mouse most of the time - perhaps cause its faster and easier for me. It's weird using the wacom pen to reach all the way to the colour thing to change the thing so your pen size is smaller or colouring inside or outside the selected vector colour material. Sometime back I found out how to paint selected or not too which I think is my fav trick and makes colouring easier when ya can just select what ya wanna colour.

Saving back ups is an excellent trick. Learned this one late and lost of large project once. (original duders ep 2 :*C) I rarely use any hotkeys...... actually I think I know Ctrl Z for undo which is basic, and ctrl shift z and c or just c or some shit for the opitmization of the curse tool thing which is really hopeful for both lowering filesize and cleaning up the drawing - but sometimes it actually makes the drawing look worse and I get pissed using it sometimes cause then those arent the lines I drew anymore - I let the computer violate my work and turn my art into its. Horrid feeling. Like a mothers egg bein' stolen and aten by a snake.

Only other trick I can think of now to make things easier/better. Havin' the audeo and actionscript layers at the top. keeping the entire timeline organized, and having your entire library organized - that means a folder called lines for all the lines, a folder called mouths for all the mouths, BG for all backgrounds, etc.

Wacom tablet

This post has given me passion towards my beloved wacom tablet. I'm going to take this time to give my thanks to my Wacom for all its time it's let me use it to draw my animations, roll joints on, eat dinner of off, and as a weapon to smack my anime-obsesed friends with while bored.

Thank you wacom tablet. :3

The guy who Toast put down is not mentally challenged in any way. I have him on my AIM, I forget why, but last week he IMed me and asked me for help on something. I couldn't help and was pretty harsh when he kept pestering me, which only caused him to do it more. Kind of annoying, and he responded fairly rudely to what you gave him (only read first half a page or so). I don't think you should have been banned though, that's redikulus.

At 10/27/09 11:26 PM, El-Presidente wrote: I don't think you should have been banned though, that's redikulus.

There were a whole lot of "fucks" coming from him, and he did (more or less directly) insult the work of the mods. In my opinion he deserved some kind of ban at least (and note that it's not because I really don't like the guy), whether he actually got it is of course a completely different thing though.

igf deadline is nov 1... i just finished uploading closure

finally time for sleep

i hope

At 10/27/09 11:56 PM, knugen wrote:

At 10/27/09 11:26 PM, El-Presidente wrote: I don't think you should have been banned though, that's redikulus.

There were a whole lot of "fucks" coming from him, and he did (more or less directly) insult the work of the mods. In my opinion he deserved some kind of ban at least (and note that it's not because I really don't like the guy), whether he actually got it is of course a completely different thing though.

He does deserve to get banned as he's just as bad. I wish people wouldn't sink down to their level though. It makes the flash forum bad, although it's not hard to end up in a flame war.

So yesterday I had to format my Mac partition due to a corrupt filesystem. I switched a few times between Mac and Windows to play Warcraft 3 and Company of Heroes, and apparently doing it too much without letting it shut down properly can cause errors.

I spent about 3 days trying to save my files with no success :(

So to all Mac users, shut down properly and run Disk warrior/Disk utility every couple of weeks to catch errors before they get out of hand.

At 10/28/09 09:52 AM, Saza wrote: So yesterday I had to format my Mac partition due to a corrupt filesystem. I switched a few times between Mac and Windows to play Warcraft 3 and Company of Heroes, and apparently doing it too much without letting it shut down properly can cause errors.

I spent about 3 days trying to save my files with no success :(

Meh, I had the same thing while trying to install windows on my mac, erased everything... I'm not planning on trying to install it again.

At 10/28/09 09:52 AM, Saza wrote: So to all Mac users, shut down properly and run Disk warrior/Disk utility every couple of weeks to catch errors before they get out of hand.

I think that applies for both Macs and PCs. I've had a good number of hard drives fail on both. Although it's much harder to replace them in Macs.

John Peel RIP.

Sorry for the doublepost. I should clarify...John is my cousin, not the famous UK DJ, even though he dies around this time too. :(

At 10/27/09 01:04 PM, liaaaam wrote:

:Left 4 Dead 2 is also of a lot of interest to me because I did like the first, it's just I can't justify paying that amount of money for a small upgrade, so I plan to pick it up when Steam discounts it (which is inevitable within the next few months).. and try the demo when it's publicly available.

small upgrade? dude, if this were a small upgrade valve would've just made it a DLC. There was too much stuff they added for it to be DLC, so they decided to make it a sequel. There's sooooo much stuff i could describe to you thats different but im not gonna because i dont think anyone else really cares.

pm me tho for info

At 10/28/09 12:06 PM, fluffkomix wrote: small upgrade? dude, if this were a small upgrade valve would've just made it a DLC. There was too much stuff they added for it to be DLC, so they decided to make it a sequel. There's sooooo much stuff i could describe to you thats different but im not gonna because i dont think anyone else really cares.

I know all of the stuff that is different in the sequel but in my opinion L4D wasn't even a full game to begin with, and this is just an improvement on that :/ The only thing (literally) that piques my interest about L4D2 is the melee weapons. I'm not paying £25 for something I don't think is worth it. I picked up L4D for about £17 and even that is overpriced in my opinion for what little there was in it.

At 10/28/09 12:40 PM, liaaaam wrote: I know all of the stuff that is different in the sequel but in my opinion L4D wasn't even a full game to begin with, and this is just an improvement on that :/ The only thing (literally) that piques my interest about L4D2 is the melee weapons. I'm not paying £25 for something I don't think is worth it. I picked up L4D for about £17 and even that is overpriced in my opinion for what little there was in it.

Really? I found the game quite full. Maybe a bit repetitive but overall it was a worthy game.

Has anyone played Splosion Man for XBA yet? Such an amazing game.

I won l4d2 so it's all goood :3. But i agree with liam in some aspects, but i think what's holding valve back now is the engine. Source is very outdated, and for some reason (although it can do it) they aren't intergrating paralax mapping, advanced shaders or proper multi core support.I'm hoping the long wait for ep3 means they are doing something big to the engine, but we'll have to see.

Anyway, i liked l4d1, i agree it got a bit repetitive, but tf2 would have as well if it weren't for the amazing slew of updates.

l4d2 demo finally coming tonight? I had the game fully preloaded so I could play it as soon as it goes live, and sure enough now it's "pre-loading" it again except it's at 33% and it takes like 5 minutes for 1% at 800kBps. I'm gonna buy the necessary resources incase it is released tonight. let's get at least 4 people from newgrounds so we can have one NG team.

sorry about all this l4d spam for those of you who aren't interested in gaming. it will end tomorrow after we all post about how incredibly awesome the game is (probably)

At 10/28/09 12:40 PM, liaaaam wrote: I know all of the stuff that is different in the sequel but in my opinion L4D wasn't even a full game to begin with, and this is just an improvement on that :/ The only thing (literally) that piques my interest about L4D2 is the melee weapons. I'm not paying £25 for something I don't think is worth it. I picked up L4D for about £17 and even that is overpriced in my opinion for what little there was in it.

L4D is a fun game, but is somewhat lacking, especially when compared to Valve's much 'richer' multiplayer title Team Fortress 2. Someone's telling me as I write this about all of the new things in Left 4 Dead 2 (Riot Officer infected, new items and things), and they sound really interesting - but I can't help but shake the feeling that these aren't actually brilliant extensions of the first game, but rather mechanics that should have been there to begin with.
I don't know, there's just this feeling of slight disappointment when I think of Left 4 Dead. Overhype, probably.

At 10/28/09 12:46 PM, Saza wrote: Has anyone played Splosion Man for XBA yet? Such an amazing game.

I played the demo, and I had so much fun. It's high on my list of "games to buy"; probably below Braid though.

Recently I discovered that, following recent findings such as "my girlfriend loves Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton games" (she's not usually a big fan of logic), my girlfriend also likes role-playing games. She played through the entirety of Fable 2 (the henchman system meant that I could play at the same time) and, despite getting dreadfully scared by most of the enemies, she quite enjoyed it.
I recently let her try Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, which is a much darker title, and she was scared half to death. It didn't help that we also discovered that she can't deal with a manual camera (neither first or third person), and so most of the time was left unable to see or attack enemies, which certainly contributed to the whole fear thing.
Still, very funny to watch your girlfriend screaming and tapping random buttons at the sight of a giant rat.

At 10/28/09 01:46 PM, citricsquid wrote: I have a L4D2 Demo server live, London. If anyone wants to join in, sure thing! Just got to wait 2 hours and 16 mins! The demo is pretty good apparently, the new infected etc. are great.

Regarding the L4D/L4D2 situation, I disagree entirely. Sure, L4D could have been better but it was most definitely a full game. I played well over 100 hours of it and I base value on enjoyment, price and time had from it. I paid £25 for L4D, if I can get 25 hours for £25 that's a brilliant deal, there are a huge amount of shit games right now that cost >£30 and play for about 3 hours, Call of duty 4/5 being perfect examples.

A company has to make money, they can't spend an entire year building a brand new game only to release it as free downloadable content because a small group of whiney gamers can't handle a couple of extra £. The entire L4D2 boycott was ridiculous and I'm glad the people who ran it realised it and ended it.

First of all, LOL you think COD4 only has 3 hours of gameplay. I'm guessing you havn't played it.

I'm by no means boycotting L4D2, but I must just point out a few things which have really pissed me off about L4D. First of all, PC users get it cheaper and get all DLC for free. This to me is utter bullshit. Console users have to pay all the bills and PC users get a free ride, I don't see how that's fair in the slightest. I'm of course reffering to this Crash Course DLC, which is very shit, but costs Xbox users a few quid. Bullshit.

I'd also like to point out that due to PC users hacking the game, a lot of dev time is spent fixing things which only affect the PC version, and yet they still pay less...

L4D2, as far as I can see, is a major inprovement on the first, so it's by no means not worth the cash, the problem I have with it is the fact that PC users will continue to freeload off Xbox users. Bottom line is, it makes me angry when we have to pay for the DLC and PC users get it free, and if I buy L4D2 then I'm going to feel that anger again whether I like it or not, and believe it or not, I don't like being angry.

So that's the only reason I'd think twice before buying it

Ok I'll try not to get into the debate of PC vs Console (which just boils down to confort + stability vs visuals and accuracy) so I'll ignore those comments.

Valve must care about consoles since it's where the majority of their L4D profit is coming from. Bottom line is Xbox users ARE paying for this thing to be made, if the game wasn't on the consoles it wouldn't be as popular and L4D2 probably wouldn't have been made so fast or maybe not at all.

At 10/28/09 02:17 PM, citricsquid wrote: The xbox section has 18,000 posts in total, the PC section has 890,000. I'd love to see you explain how that works.

PC gamers are on computers. Forums are on computers.
Console gamers are on consoles. Forums can be on consoles but no-one really goes on forums on their console.

Average laziness of gamers > Effort to walk to computer, log on to forum and ask "Haii guyz, let's kill zombehs!!!".

At 10/28/09 02:29 PM, citricsquid wrote:
My brother is an xbox 360 user,

Nice.

he plays on his xbox 360.

Nice

He doesn't play on his PC,

Shame.

he plays on his xbox 360.

Nice

Okay, got that, he's an Xbox 360 player.

Really?

Now what does he do when he wants to discuss the games that he plays?

Cry because he's just so alone?

He goes onto his computer and uses forums for those games.

Good substitute for human contact.

Are you trying to imply that someone who plays xbox 360 games never uses the internet for forums?

No.

That's a stupid argument, I quite clearly see Liam who is posting here plays xbox 360 and uh, this is a forum, isn't it?

Can't prove it is.

Anyway the thing is I'm just saying if you're on a computer the forums are right in front of you, on a console you think "Well I'm playing now, I'll do it later."

At 10/28/09 01:46 PM, citricsquid wrote: Regarding the L4D/L4D2 situation, I disagree entirely. Sure, L4D could have been better but it was most definitely a full game. I played well over 100 hours of it and I base value on enjoyment, price and time had from it. I paid £25 for L4D, if I can get 25 hours for £25 that's a brilliant deal, there are a huge amount of shit games right now that cost >£30 and play for about 3 hours, Call of duty 4/5 being perfect examples.

I played WoW over 200 days, true story. (and 200 days means 4800 hours, not 200 days since i started). Usually I don't bother buying those games that cost 60 euros and play for 3 hours. Crysis is a perfect example of that. I finished Crysis warhead in about 2 hours and a half if i remember correctly, good thing I just bought Warhead and not the other one. I usually just torrent those kind of games.

I'm curious about console players, what makes it more enjoyable than PC? I'm perfectly comfortable here on my PC chair and I've been using keyboads ever since I played the original Rayman at 5 years of age. Also it's not like the game would look much better on a TV, I'm quite happy with my 22" LCD. Anything bigger would just

This argument will last 4,000,000,000,000,000 pages so just stop now.

I tend to get racing games for the console, as joysticks have different levels of pressure which you use to steer, but i prefer the accuracy of 3000dpi on the pc for fpss.

Gaming controversy

Anyone seen the new footage of call of duty modern warfare 2? One of the levels is you basically massacring civilians in an airport, i'm guessing as part of a terrorist organization. Now i personally think that's fine, the whole thing looks very grim and isn't glorified or cleaned in anyway. And if you are the type of person that imitates whatever you see then it is your mental status that should be questioned.

Movies and books have always had examples where the reader is put in the bad guys body, i think it's about time that the same was done for games.

At 10/28/09 02:45 PM, Depredation wrote: Movies and books have always had examples where the reader is put in the bad guys body, i think it's about time that the same was done for games.

Really? It's been ten years since GTA.

Fucking hell I've struck a nerve. Fine you're right, people spend more time / money playing PC games

Like I said, I don't want to argue because you're getting close to insulting my intelligence, so let's just agree to disagree.

At 10/28/09 02:52 PM, GustTheASGuy wrote: Really? It's been ten years since GTA.

If you see the footage it's not the same as gta, it's not light hearted and comical. Some games have had this sort of thing before, but this seems more visceral than previously.

At 10/28/09 02:59 PM, citricsquid wrote:

At 10/28/09 02:58 PM, Rustygames wrote: Like I said, I don't want to argue because you're getting close to insulting my intelligence, so let's just agree to disagree.

but you're wrong.

What a mature way of arguing.

I think now I should say "No your wrong, and you smell".