At 7/11/08 12:46 PM, Luis wrote:

At 7/11/08 12:31 PM, Gutya wrote: You've got to remember that the cost of living in different places around the world is vastly different.

Yep thats what i was gonna say. I could live happily here in the us on a low-end uk gig :)

hell i just need enough to pay my rent, my car, and my bar tab and im good.

Oh I thought the cost was actualy quite similar (well maybe a year ago, before the recessions)

At 7/11/08 01:10 PM, Rustygames wrote: Oh I thought the cost was actualy quite similar (well maybe a year ago, before the recessions)

I was thinking the solution would be to build a self sustaining robot of myself and send him to the uk to work and just send me checks. I'd be doing well on a uk paycheck.

Actually that is somewhat of a true story to that... i read an article a long time ago about a developer (i think he was php or some sort of back end dev) and how he was fired from his job cause they had caught on that he never actually did any work.. all his work he would subcontract to india ... it was rather brilliant.. he would basically just show up to work ... turn in the goods and then clock out. he got away with it for like years.

At 7/11/08 08:22 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote:

At 7/11/08 12:56 AM, NegativeONE wrote: Open bar is fine, just as long as there's no internet connection WUT

Haha, so I can drink myself in oblivion, so long as I don't bother you guys with it?

Personally, I really enjoy it when Mods PUI/PWI! ...you just shouldn't be allowed to delete those posts once you sober up! :P

I say this only because I'm usually not around when this kinda stuff happens so I miss out! lol ...I'm so selfish! :P

zrb, I think you're a huge asset to the Flash forum!! Keep up the great work! :D

At 7/11/08 01:02 PM, jmtb02 wrote: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/11/six -million-ibricks-and-growing/

Am I the only other one here without a phone right now as well?

Bupkus is suck a great word...

At 7/11/08 02:10 PM, zrb wrote: Has anyone heard of the new Rick Roll phenomenon.

Thanks for the warning.

At 7/11/08 02:10 PM, zrb wrote:

Bupkus is suck a great word...

Has anyone heard of the new Rick Roll phenomenon.

Not as good as rick rolling.

At 7/11/08 02:49 PM, UnknownFury wrote:

At 7/11/08 02:10 PM, zrb wrote:

Bupkus is suck a great word...

Has anyone heard of the new Rick Roll phenomenon.

Not as good as rick rolling.

when was rick rolling any good? people are so fucking strange ... like the things they get 'hooked' on.

Anyways, its hot as shit today anyone have a favorite ice cream flavor?

What wud you call it? Ashly rolling? Tis rolling? lol.. I am so using it tho :D

One thing I'll say about the uk is our tax rates are awesome(ly bad)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FuX5_OWObA0

At 7/11/08 03:16 PM, Luis wrote: when was rick rolling any good? people are so fucking strange ... like the things they get 'hooked' on.

Its called 4chan my friend, and they're a wierd bunch of fuckwits.
in b4 "i kno what 4chan is, omfg b&"

Anyways, its hot as shit today anyone have a favorite ice cream flavor?

Its pissing it down here, wanna swap? Chocolate chip cookie-dough.

At 7/11/08 03:16 PM, Luis wrote: when was rick rolling any good? people are so fucking strange ... like the things they get 'hooked' on.

I said not as good, not that rick rolling was particularly amazing (only the sites that noobs couldn't get out of).

At 7/11/08 03:38 PM, SpamBurger wrote: I actually like the song :)
My friend sang it at a karaoke night once :p

I'm sure you got a great laugh out of that and everyone else was staring at you

At 7/11/08 03:42 PM, NG-Unit wrote:

At 7/11/08 03:38 PM, SpamBurger wrote: I actually like the song :)
My friend sang it at a karaoke night once :p

I'm sure you got a great laugh out of that and everyone else was staring at you

I sang Journey at karaoke once, it was epic. I was pissed off my tits tho so it must have sounded it like shite :D

At 7/11/08 03:16 PM, Luis wrote: when was rick rolling any good? people are so fucking strange ... like the things they get 'hooked' on.

Yes, can someone please answer this? I have never met a person who finds Rick Rolling funny (thank God), so where are these dicknoses?

This made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqk1-q8gX cY&feature=related

At 7/11/08 08:48 PM, BoMToons wrote: This made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqk1-q8gX cY&feature=related

Haha that was painful for me to watch.

God I hate how bloody estatic people get on that show.

At 7/11/08 08:48 PM, BoMToons wrote: This made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqk1-q8gX cY&feature=related

You've used the 'one' TWICE, Joy!

At 7/11/08 08:48 PM, BoMToons wrote: This made me laugh:

Its one of those things that make game shows watchable.

At 7/11/08 08:17 PM, NegativeONE wrote:

At 7/11/08 03:16 PM, Luis wrote: when was rick rolling any good? people are so fucking strange ... like the things they get 'hooked' on.

Yes, can someone please answer this? I have never met a person who finds Rick Rolling funny (thank God), so where are these dicknoses?

I never got it either. I mean, I can get into it they actually put some creativity and surprise into it, like embedding the video in something else so you can't tell what it is before it's even loaded, but 99% of the time it's just a link to a YouTube page.

Plus linking an entire fucking video for the sake of a five or ten second joke seems like a waste of bandwidth.

Great > < " Now Squeezy is submitting submissions he made years ago into the portal again. When will the madness end?

At 7/12/08 09:37 AM, Coolio-Niato wrote: Great > < " Now Squeezy is submitting submissions he made years ago into the portal again. When will the madness end?

something tells me he's dropping acid again...

At 7/12/08 10:51 AM, Luis wrote:

At 7/12/08 09:37 AM, Coolio-Niato wrote: Great > < " Now Squeezy is submitting submissions he made years ago into the portal again. When will the madness end?

something tells me he's dropping acid again...

I didn't know he stopped, btw luis the guy in your sig is amazing O_O

At 7/12/08 11:50 AM, atomic-noodle wrote:

At 7/12/08 10:51 AM, Luis wrote:

At 7/12/08 09:37 AM, Coolio-Niato wrote: Great > < " Now Squeezy is submitting submissions he made years ago into the portal again. When will the madness end?

something tells me he's dropping acid again...

I didn't know he stopped, btw luis the guy in your sig is amazing O_O

yeah i agree, i checked out that site a few days ago. very inspiring. I like the narrations he makes to go along with his artwork.

E24

They just had a little bit about the status and pay of voice actors in games. It had a little bit talking to Otacon's voice actor (Christopher Randolph), and a slightly pretentious who did a voice for GTAIV.

The basic gist of it was that game voice actors get a fraction of the pay of film stars (a few thousand for the GTA guy), and have a lot less status. So, what do you guys think? Are we going to end up seeing a rise in the status of voice actors in games over the next decade or so? So far the only guy I can name from memory for a role in a game is David Hayter, but it'd be nice to see game voice actors rising to a status where they could get some big names doing voices.

STATICK

check it out.

its my site

It's because Voice Actors aren't part of the Film Actors Guild, which means there's no rules or anything surrounding what they can be paid etc.

I don't neceserily think this is too much of a bad thing, it would irritate me if half the budget of a video game was going on hiring the voice of the main character, especially when it's the programmers who put in HUGE amounts of work to make Xbox 360 etc. games.

I think the guy who played Niko whining recently made him seem like a bit of knob, Rockstar could have easily just not given him the job and given it to one of the millions of other people who can do a convincing Eastern European accent. He'll end up getting more money from them anyway since they'll need to use him again so I don't know why he's getting so upset about it.

Voice actors

I was a bit curious about how much they get payed as well. The main reason that they are paid less, is because the are only suppling the voice of the character. True, that famous actors voice act in 3d movies and get paid loads. But in video games, its really the video game character recognizability rather than the voice actors. The video game companies aren't hiring famous voice actors to do voices for another character, mainly they just want an actor to fit the character.

Another big reason, as far as film actors vs. voice actors go, in video games, movies are based around the actor's dialog and movements whereas video games are more focused on the gameplay and the voice acting is more secondary or optional.

At 7/12/08 01:25 PM, zrb wrote:

I don't neceserily think this is too much of a bad thing, it would irritate me if half the budget of a video game was going on hiring the voice of the main character, especially when it's the programmers who put in HUGE amounts of work to make Xbox 360 etc. games.

The people who work in the other aspects of a game, such as visuals and audio also put a HUGE amount of work into it, so it isn't all about the programmers.

You can say the same thing about films too, of course. A tonne of actors get paid a ridiculous amount. It's the same in sports and stuff. Essentially, the more enjoyable your job is, the more you can expect to get paid for it.

Anyway, I was more pushing towards the issue of where you see acting in the gaming industry in the next few years. Could it ever rival film acting?

At 7/12/08 01:28 PM, Paranoia wrote: Anyway, I was more pushing towards the issue of where you see acting in the gaming industry in the next few years. Could it ever rival film acting?

Its probably not going to as much because, as I said in my last post, video games are based around gameplay and the video game characters. Not so much the people behind them.

In movies, they are based around the acting and dialog. Also they hire recognizable actors to do many different parts.