At 7/11/08 01:56 AM, DougyTheFreshmaker wrote:

I noticed you wrote that an averge flash animating salary is 50-70 $ is that for a month a week an hour ? please this is preaty importent...

It was $50k - $70k as a salary, which means $50,000 - $70,000. I'm not sure what animators or graphic artists here (US) make, but for a good programmer, that's kind of on the low side--though certainly livable and good enough for a "at least I like my job" type of job. Also, I believe it's about par for course when it comes to being an *Actionscript* programmer.

I think I might have mised out the 'starting' salary part. Thats the average starting salary, not the overall average. If you're good and work for a good (rich) company, you can get anything up to £80k ($160k) and maybe beyond.

Tom-

At 7/11/08 03:01 AM, The-Super-Flash-Bros wrote: I think I might have mised out the 'starting' salary part. Thats the average starting salary, not the overall average. If you're good and work for a good (rich) company, you can get anything up to £80k ($160k) and maybe beyond.

Tom-

But that isn't average. The statistic for average salary for an AS developer is £30k a year.

ouch.. thats not much

This will give you a decent idea:

http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/fla sh%20developer.do

But don't expect to come straight from NG casual game making to 30k + a year. Most developers on NG lack the professional skills and experience to get that much on their first job.

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At 7/11/08 12:56 AM, zrb wrote: Question:
Do you guys find me helpful or am I just some generic n00b ?

You are one of the load-bearing stilts keepin the flash forum from collapsing into mediocrity.

At 7/11/08 04:28 AM, M00SHEEP wrote: ouch.. thats not much

£30,000 is about $58,000. UK Income tax rates for that band are 20%, so take home pay is about £2000, or $3950 per month.

It's a very comfortable salary, especially in the midst of a recession (which the UK is currently going through - two consecutive quarters of negative growth). It's also £10000pa more than what I'm on.
London environment might mean a bit of a high cost of living though.

I'm on a student loan with no other income so thats £1100 every 3 months. So that amount is not small to me at all :D

At 7/11/08 12:56 AM, NegativeONE wrote: Open bar is fine, just as long as there's no internet connection WUT

Haha, so I can drink myself in oblivion, so long as I don't bother you guys with it?

Congratulations! Your vote was the last vote needed for this submission to be protected!

Since when do you make the final deciding vote and this stupid sentence pops up instead of the Protection Flash Movie. That's dumb.

At 7/11/08 10:02 AM, Senti wrote: Congratulations! Your vote was the last vote needed for this submission to be protected!

Since when do you make the final deciding vote and this stupid sentence pops up instead of the Protection Flash Movie. That's dumb.

Its the same for blamming. Meh, guess thats just the way it is mate.

At 7/11/08 10:02 AM, Senti wrote: Congratulations! Your vote was the last vote needed for this submission to be protected!

Since when do you make the final deciding vote and this stupid sentence pops up instead of the Protection Flash Movie. That's dumb.

Been like that since the redesign. I preferred to before when you got the animation if you saved/blammed it. Also, when you get the final blam vote it say something like "Congratulations you just destroyed someones hard work" when 9 times out of 10 they didn't work hard on it at all D:

At 7/11/08 10:08 AM, UnknownFury wrote: Also, when you get the final blam vote it say something like "Congratulations you just destroyed someones hard work" when 9 times out of 10 they didn't work hard on it at all D:

Thats exactly what I thought when I saw that when it came up for me. ^^

At 7/11/08 10:10 AM, kid-dude wrote:

At 7/11/08 10:08 AM, UnknownFury wrote: Also, when you get the final blam vote it say something like "Congratulations you just destroyed someones hard work" when 9 times out of 10 they didn't work hard on it at all D:

Thats exactly what I thought when I saw that when it came up for me. ^^

They were supposed to commission edmund to do a new line of em but i guess edmund is too busy or tom didnt feel like it was worthwhile. i almost wish they used the original ones anyway.. there was something satisfying about their crudeness.

Average United States household income is $48,000 (two parents salaries combined), there's something to think about while you discuss salaries for Flash Development :).

At 7/11/08 11:58 AM, jmtb02 wrote: Average United States household income is $48,000 (two parents salaries combined), there's something to think about while you discuss salaries for Flash Development :).

Someone is pulling your leg :)
$48,000 is worth what? £2 or something ;)

At 7/11/08 11:58 AM, jmtb02 wrote: Average United States household income is $48,000 (two parents salaries combined), there's something to think about while you discuss salaries for Flash Development :).

does anyone want to get married? we could be a power couple.

I'll marry you :3

At 7/11/08 12:08 PM, M00SHEEP wrote: I'll marry you :3

Oh go away would you! :P

Your jelous because he doesnt want to marry you xD

At 7/11/08 10:29 AM, Luis wrote: They were supposed to commission edmund to do a new line of em but i guess edmund is too busy or tom didnt feel like it was worthwhile. i almost wish they used the original ones anyway.. there was something satisfying about their crudeness.

The crudeness was beautiful! And you can't forget about the wonderful whistle toon.

AHHH!!! Theres several conversations going on at once

At 7/11/08 12:07 PM, Rustygames wrote: Someone is pulling your leg :)

http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/032007/hh inc/new04_001.htm

At 7/11/08 12:07 PM, Luis wrote:

At 7/11/08 11:58 AM, jmtb02 wrote: Average United States household income is $48,000 (two parents salaries combined), there's something to think about while you discuss salaries for Flash Development :).

does anyone want to get married? we could be a power couple.

There is something rather worrying about the phrase "power couple"...

Nice and powerfull :3

At 7/11/08 12:26 PM, jmtb02 wrote:

At 7/11/08 12:07 PM, Rustygames wrote: Someone is pulling your leg :)

http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/032007/hh inc/new04_001.htm

Yea I saw it on wiki too. It's crazy though, because you just simply cannot live of that ammount. The data must be skewed by people living in council houses or in caves. You cannot move out and go into private rented accommodation in UK without at least £25k a year. Even then you'll struggle a lot.

Oh just thought, maybe it means after tax, which would make a little more sense.

You've got to remember that the cost of living in different places around the world is vastly different.

At 7/11/08 12:31 PM, Gutya wrote: You've got to remember that the cost of living in different places around the world is vastly different.

Yep thats what i was gonna say. I could live happily here in the us on a low-end uk gig :)

hell i just need enough to pay my rent, my car, and my bar tab and im good.

At 7/11/08 12:07 PM, Luis wrote: does anyone want to get married? we could be a power couple.

You know I would

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/11/six -million-ibricks-and-growing/

Am I the only other one here without a phone right now as well?