ok heres on thing i know there is never gonna be peace in the midlle east no matter how hard we try. the only way it could be done is if every is dead. becuse as lonf as there ppl feuding over something there will be a war in the middle east

Well, Stalin once said something very nice :
"No people, no problems."

Right now on the news in Israel, they show a man carrying rockets to a building, and then fires all of them all on north of Israel (smoke comes out of it). You might want to look for it on the internet, maybe they will display it on Haaretz.com

ok everyone i have talked with alot of lebinese people and know alot of stories. one night all of isreal's military came in and told all of the lebonise people "all civilian farmers and workers" to get off there land or else they would be shot on sight. a cab driver i know was there when it happened and his father resisted. one of the isreal officers shot his dand right between the eyes and put him out for everyone to see. he said if anyone else won't leave we will kill you like this. once they moved everyone out they burned it to the ground and said to the press that a fire had started on accident and there were no survivers.

p.s. i am in a hury so don't get mad at my spelling!

wow you're a great story teller, maybe you should do kids books.

show me one shred of evidence something like this even happened? no news, nothing even near credible or not at all credible showing any hint of a story like yours.

go away and come back when you have something that won't waste my time.

At 8/2/06 12:21 PM, -Toast- wrote:

At 8/2/06 11:49 AM, DiabloCloud wrote: who said to you that Hezbollah want to destroy Israel?

Woah, you're either just kidding or you really are an idiot :P It was already stupid enough to want to see 'pics of the rockets', and now this?! Please, please answer the following questions:
- Do you ever read articles about what's happening out there?
- Do you ever listen to news?
- Do you know what common sense is?
- Are you serious?
Both Hezbollah and Iran have officially declared they want the destruction of Israel.

i'm not talking about Iran and i'm living the war and you say to me read more articles!

every day Israel comes up with a new lie. they said they Killed the leader of Hezbollah,

Lol no, they never said that.

no they said... that is why i tell you that living in Lebanon gives you more informations.
the problem is with your medias. and what about the 6 person's that Israel has captured yesterday? r they from Hezbollah too? since you read MORE articles tell me.
don't just go telling me ask the israeli and all of that... because i'm getting bored.

today they said that they have captured three Hezbollah members.where are those captives?...

Why should they tell anyone? You think they want to show the whole world where the hold their prisoners?

just comfirm the news... to know if they r lying or not.

how do you still believe that Israel will disarm Hezbollah?

...

if she could, she would have done it in 3 or 4 days... you know israel beat the egyptien army in 6 hours.. and now in 21 days they have nothing but lies.

Israel is not a woman, it*. I'll just ignore the second part because of its ignorance and silliness.

so r you running away from the argument cause i wrote she? sorry, replace it with it and answer.

your media are only talking about Hezbollah firing rockets at Israel. i wonder how they have missed the 800 civiliens killed by israel in Lebanon?

Can you link to a source that shows that? I'm not sure it's 800. Israel does what it can to disarm Hezbollah terrorists, and if those terrorists hide within children and women then there is nothing that can be done about it, though the Israeli government said it was sorry for every Lebanese civilian it had to kill.

what do you want more than a person that is living in Lebanon to get your information from?

you know that Israel started the war over Lebanon not Hezbollah. and the Leader of Hezbollah said from the first day that they don't want an open war. they just want to make a trade to get back our prisoners in the israeli prisons, cause the Diplomatic solution didn't work with Israel. that is why they kidnaped the two Israeli soldiers.

The second part of your paragraph disproves the first part, you admit that they kidnapped the soldiers and therefore started the war.

tell me one country that has started the A WAR because of 2 kidnaped soldiers.

if you live in Lebanon you will find out that Hezbollah isn't the problem. our president support the resistance(Hezbollah). maybe for Israel and the USA but we don't have a problem with Hezbollah.

Perhaps that is what you think, so that means your resistance, as you say, uses Lebanese CHILDREN to protect important leaders and rocket carriers? Oh come on...

what do you mean by THAT IS WHAT YOU THINK? all the Lebanese(almost all) are with Hezbollah in this war. it's not about me... it's about all Lebanon.

you said she was condemned than she should be punished.

??? I never said Israel was condemned for anything.

ah ye sorry for that... maybe someone else said and i had forgot... sorry again.

do you invent these things? it is sure that i know more than you... i live in Lebanon and you say you know more than me about Hezbollah and our conflict with Israel!?

Gee, just because your home is placed there doesn't mean you know more, I read a lot of official articles and I know what's happening, I never said I know more than anyone else but you definately don't seem to know much.

what do you want more than being here to know... what articles do i have to read when i am seeing with my own eyes?

just explain one thing...we said that the missle bases were near the houses... why hitting the house? if not why doesn't Israel use smart bombes that damages only the missle base but not the house?

They were hidden INSIDE the building, not behind it, and the missile also killed dangerous Hezbollah members in the building.

and being sorry doesn't bring back all the dead civilians.

who told you that it killed Hezbollah members... where are they, why haven't we see them? why haven't all the LEBANESE see them... only you saw the members between the dead people... give me a break.

Oh so tell me, does the Hezbollah bring people it killed with rockets back to life?

if you were following the war, Hezbollah began lunching there missles after the israeli attack on Lebanon.

man the USA said sorry for Abo Greab in Iraq. how stupid can the world get.

How stupid can YOU get?!

just tell me... in the scandal of abou greab, wasn't the USA army guilty?or the prisinors were guilty for letting the guards torture them!!! all that the USA has done, and in the end the USA says that it's sorry!

those pics you are seeing in that site are from the massacre of Qana that Israel has commited in 1996. you know these civilians were hiding in a UN(Unifil) building. but still Israel hit them... was Hezbollah in or near the UN building than?

You have no source of information to prove that. And the dozen of pictures there aren't a lot, millions of people died in previous wars.

i saw the dead people... i saw the massacre with my own eyes... don't tell me you have no source to prove it... the pics from that site i gave you are from that massacre in 1996.

that wasn't an argument. you said that i was wrong. i wasn't running away... i was just trying to be polite but i guess that is something you don't learn in school.

Sorry, but you don't seem very polite to me... What does it have to do with it anyway?

it has nothing... i'm just telling you that.

and remind me when israel disarm Hezbollah. to let you know... you can disarm the USA and Israel before disarming Hezbollah and the next days will tell.

Hezbollah began the conflict. Launching missiles at Israeli cities without Israeli reaction THEN kidnapping 2 soldiers and killing 8 others. That, thankfully, got Israel to retaliate.

if she could, she would have done it in 3 or 4 days... you know israel beat the egyptien army in 6 hours.. and now in 21 days they have nothing but lies.

Ah, the old Israel is all-powerful and can do anything because she is magical argument.

you know that Israel started the war over Lebanon not Hezbollah. and the Leader of Hezbollah said from the first day that they don't want an open war. they just want to make a trade to get back our prisoners in the israeli prisons, cause the Diplomatic solution didn't work with Israel. that is why they kidnaped the two Israeli soldiers.

You know what those prisoners were captured by Israel in the first place? They were terrorists trying to kill Israelis. Are you trying to justify the terrorists’ tactics because their goal is to free their fellow terrorists?

are you telling me about the number of civilians killed in lebanon?

Those civilians are killed by Israel BECAUSE of the Hezbollah, and Israel said they are sorry for every single civilian they had to kill in oreder to protect their country.

just explain one thing...we said that the missle bases were near the houses... why hitting the house? if not why doesn't Israel use smart bombes that damages only the missle base but not the house? and being sorry doesn't bring back all the dead civilians.

Yes, magical Israel can use missles that damage the missle launchers without harming the house they are being launched from/next to!

are you a dictator or something!

Are you stupid or sometyhing? Stop running away from arguments that disprove your points.

that wasn't an argument. you said that i was wrong. i wasn't running away... i was just trying to be polite but i guess that is something you don't learn in school.

Asking if someone is a dictator is not being polite.

At 8/2/06 02:23 PM, DiabloCloud wrote:

At 8/2/06 12:21 PM, -Toast- wrote:

i'm not talking about Iran and i'm living the war and you say to me read more articles!

SO WHAT? No one cares where you live, I live in Israel too but that's not where the true information comes from. The rumours in the streets are just stories of people trying to sound brave, the true information is in the articles, and not any propaganda sites neither. You still didn't answer my questions, I have a feeling you read only 1/5 of what I write.

PLEASE answer the following question. If you don't I will consider you don't answer them because you are wrong.
- Do you ever read articles about what's happening out there?
- Do you ever listen to news?
- Do you know what common sense is?
- Are you serious?
If you answer any of the the 4 first ones I'll be very thankful.

no they said... that is why i tell you that living in Lebanon gives you more informations.

You are right, you have more information, but the information you get on the streets is FALSE.

because i'm getting bored.

No one asks you to stay, if this bores you you have a life of your own, do whatever you want :)

just comfirm the news... to know if they r lying or not.

Hmm right, so I guess the Israeli ministers are liars?

so r you running away from the argument cause i wrote she? sorry, replace it with it and answer.

No I did not, but I considered your argument as invalid and meaningless. Why do you think Israel is so powerful it could find well hidden terrorists within the society in 3 days? That's really silly, and why doesn't the Hezbollah blow Israel entirely in 3 days?

your media are only talking about Hezbollah firing rockets at Israel. i wonder how they have missed the 800 civiliens killed by israel in Lebanon?

Can you link to a source that shows that? I'm not sure it's 800. Israel does what it can to disarm Hezbollah terrorists, and if those terrorists hide within children and women then there is nothing that can be done about it, though the Israeli government said it was sorry for every Lebanese civilian it had to kill.

what do you want more than a person that is living in Lebanon to get your information from?

Official articles. Street rumours have 99% chances to be false.

you know that Israel started the war over Lebanon not Hezbollah. and the Leader of Hezbollah said from the first day that they don't want an open war. they just want to make a trade to get back our prisoners in the israeli prisons, cause the Diplomatic solution didn't work with Israel. that is why they kidnaped the two Israeli soldiers.

The second part of your paragraph disproves the first part, you admit that they kidnapped the soldiers and therefore started the war.

tell me one country that has started the A WAR because of 2 kidnaped soldiers.

The war wasn't started because of that, it was started because the Hezbollah has to be disarmed. This is not the first time the Hezbollah kills israeli civilians, for years terrorists blew up Israeli civilians in subways and busses (sp?). It's also not the first time the launched missiles on Israel.

Perhaps that is what you think, so that means your resistance, as you say, uses Lebanese CHILDREN to protect important leaders and rocket carriers? Oh come on...

what do you mean by THAT IS WHAT YOU THINK? all the Lebanese(almost all) are with Hezbollah in this war. it's not about me... it's about all Lebanon.

ah ye sorry for that... maybe someone else said and i had forgot... sorry again.

It's ok, but please try and remember who says what to avoid these situations.

what do you want more than being here to know... what articles do i have to read when i am seeing with my own eyes?

You didn't see all those events happening with your own eyes, did you? In what part of Lebanon do you live?

who told you that it killed Hezbollah members... where are they, why haven't we see them? why haven't all the LEBANESE see them... only you saw the members between the dead people... give me a break.

Umm... There's official information, you know, bodies were found, rockets and rocket launchers were found, and the Israeli bombers confirmed the targets were killed and the launchers were destroyed. Why do you always refuse to believe official information?

if you were following the war, Hezbollah began lunching there missles after the israeli attack on Lebanon.

The attack was not on Lebanon, it was on Hezbollah members, and trying to bring the kidnapped soldiers back.

just tell me... in the scandal of abou greab, wasn't the USA army guilty?or the prisinors were guilty for letting the guards torture them!!! all that the USA has done, and in the end the USA says that it's sorry!

That is not the same war.

i saw the dead people... i saw the massacre with my own eyes... don't tell me you have no source to prove it... the pics from that site i gave you are from that massacre in 1996.

We are not in the year 1996.

it has nothing... i'm just telling you that.

Okay thanks for telling me, I'll try to be more polite with you.

and remind me when israel disarm Hezbollah. to let you know... you can disarm the USA and Israel before disarming Hezbollah and the next days will tell.

At 8/2/06 03:15 PM, -Toast- wrote:

At 8/2/06 02:23 PM, DiabloCloud wrote:

At 8/2/06 12:21 PM, -Toast- wrote:

i'm not talking about Iran and i'm living the war and you say to me read more articles!

SO WHAT? No one cares where you live, I live in Israel too but that's not where the true information comes from. The rumours in the streets are just stories of people trying to sound brave, the true information is in the articles, and not any propaganda sites neither. You still didn't answer my questions, I have a feeling you read only 1/5 of what I write.

sorry to begin this conversation in the first place... i didn't know you lived in Israel!
i just want to tell you. PM me when you disarm Hezbollah, OK.
and i want to ask you, how are the Israeli doing in the Shelter(HAHAHAHAHA...)
how do you want that Israel disarm Hezbolah and she can't enter to south Lebanon because of Hezbollah's troops.
Hezbollah is making toast out of the Gulany troops( the finest of the finest).
not just the troops but the tanks too and not any tanks, the strongest in the world.
and now here comes a person to tell me that what i am seeing isn't true.
Hezbollah will make Olmert wish he wasn't in the head of state in Israel.
and i want to say that the members in Hezbollah aren't afraid to die. but the Israelies are scared to death from Hezbollah's missles.
Israel, the Almighty, that can defeat all the Arabic countries united, cannot defeat a bunch of men who want to defende there land. what a joke.
and that is the end of our argument.

You suck you arab.

At 8/2/06 06:48 AM, DiabloCloud wrote: i said fund the army not the government. there's the solution. and the army is controlled by Hezbollah too!?

The government runs the army, and since Hezbollah is part of the government, YES, it gives them control.

why do they need to support her if Israel will not be punished?

Becuase Israel's having reckets fired at it. If it wasn't for the lack of intelligence in your posts, and your inability to type....I'd really begin questioning whether or not you were stupid.

why does it exist then? only to condemn... what does the security council do?

It does absolutely nothing. At least here you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about.

how does the UN plan to solve the Iran nuclear problem than?

They'll issue a STERN WARNING. And if that isn't taken seriously, they'll murmur a little then WRITE A LETTER.

i'm Lebanese... how can you know more than me in these things???

Well, your complete lack of any sort of knowledge...

i told you your media isn't showing a thing about the casaulties and you justify your argument with informations from the same media?

http://www.foxnews.c..,2933,206514,00.html

Yea, that media, that talks every day about how many civilians are killed in Lebanon. The CNN media that gives airtime to people denouncing Israel, like John Kerry. Yea, it's ok, you have nothing here. You can admit it.

are you a dictator or something!

MY GOD! You've cut me to the quick! Dictator! Buffoon.

since all of you are saying that israel has the right to do what she is doing... than i guess in the end it will disarm Hezbollah. Just lets wait and see.
if it fails, you all shut up. because that means that Hezbollah is stronger than israel(israel sucks).
man the Israeli once betrayed Moses and you want us to trust them?
and you will how i know more than you by living here in lebanon.
and i want to tell -toats- to watch out from Hezbollah's rockets...
and do you live in israel or in a shelter in israel?

At 8/3/06 01:50 AM, DiabloCloud wrote: since all of you are saying that israel has the right to do what she is doing... than i guess in the end it will disarm Hezbollah. Just lets wait and see.
if it fails, you all shut up. because that means that Hezbollah is stronger than israel(israel sucks).

Just to let you know, Israel is using less than 10% of its military capabilities. If they really wanted do they could crush all of Lebanon but they're not that stupid or immoral. They plan their targets to avoid as many civilian deaths as possible, unlike Hezbollah, who aim achieve as many Israeli civilian deaths as possible (but are failing miserably, hitting only 5% of their targets). Don't believe anything Nasrallah is telling you because they are all lies. In fact, today some Israel's hacked Lebanon's TVs and radios posting the message,

"Hassan sent men to fight the Israeli army, an army of steel, without preparing them. Stop listening to patriotic hymns for a moment, reflect and bring your feet back to the ground."

The truth is, Lebanon is suffering and Nazrallah is telling you otherwise. But I'm sure you can see quite clearly that your country is suffering, you even posted it yourself. So why would you support Nazrallah and his group of terrorists? If anything you should help to destroy them! Hezbollah is the root of all this and everyone who cares about morals and human rights should be in favor of stopping them.

This is simply a waste of time, I'll stop replying to your stupid ignorant childish arguments. If it was like in 'mortal kombat' or something like you really want to, Israel could send nuclear bombs and destroy the Hezbollah in minutes, but it's not a game - it's in the real world. This will be my last reply to this thread until the war is over, and then I will reply again.

At 8/2/06 05:35 AM, -Toast- wrote:

At 8/2/06 05:24 AM, Anti_Noob wrote: Healthy? That's not right. Subways are healthy. McDonalds will give you obesity. LOL!

Didn't you see all the adverts showing that McDonalds now use healthy oil and sauce?

Healthy petroleum, wow I never knew such could exist.

It's more healthy than fruit, I eat at McDonalds 3 times a day. :D

I guess you must be right since you haven't bursted yours insides out yet.

Look dude, you better be joking, cause you'll won't be able to live past 30 with the diet you've taken upon. I on the other hand will at least reach a 100.

the future is clear, for there to be peace in the middle east, either israel or the muslim world must be wiped out
just as in iraq the us invaded and till today suicide bombers are attacking and hundreds of civilians are dying daily-democracy?-no

At 8/7/06 10:36 PM, lemonbomb wrote: the future is clear, for there to be peace in the middle east, either israel or the muslim world must be wiped out

Not necessarily. You could just wipe out all extremists of both societies.

just as in iraq the us invaded and till today suicide bombers are attacking and hundreds of civilians are dying daily-democracy?-no

weird.

This sums up Israel's position pretty effectively. Hezbolla want the nation destroyed and turned into another fucked up Islamic Theology under the laws of 'Sharia'.

At 8/7/06 11:46 PM, Guitarmy wrote: This sums up Israel's position pretty effectively. Hezbolla want the nation destroyed and turned into another fucked up Islamic Theology under the laws of 'Sharia'.

Where did you got that from? Don't you think you are being a bit too mean towards muslims in general?

At 8/7/06 11:47 PM, Anti_Noob wrote:

At 8/7/06 11:46 PM, Guitarmy wrote: This sums up Israel's position pretty effectively. Hezbolla want the nation destroyed and turned into another fucked up Islamic Theology under the laws of 'Sharia'.

Where did you got that from? Don't you think you are being a bit too mean towards muslims in general?

Why don't you check say, every website for 'Palestinian Liberation', or Hezbolla

Better yet

Check this out and save yourself some time

At 8/8/06 12:00 AM, Guitarmy wrote:

At 8/7/06 11:47 PM, Anti_Noob wrote:

At 8/7/06 11:46 PM, Guitarmy wrote: This sums up Israel's position pretty effectively. Hezbolla want the nation destroyed and turned into another fucked up Islamic Theology under the laws of 'Sharia'.

Where did you got that from? Don't you think you are being a bit too mean towards muslims in general?

Why don't you check say, every website for 'Palestinian Liberation', or Hezbolla

Better yet

Check this out and save yourself some time

You are aware of propaganda now aren't you?

You are aware of what a book is now aren't you?

How about you spend a little less time internent browsing and a little bit more time educating that GWB size brain of yours.

At 8/2/06 02:37 PM, HighlyIllogical wrote: Hezbollah began the conflict. Launching missiles at Israeli cities without Israeli reaction THEN kidnapping 2 soldiers and killing 8 others. That, thankfully, got Israel to retaliate.

So much hate. Calm down and talk like a nice person, and stop foaming at the mouth.

Israel can't defeat Hezbollah, attacking Lebanon only makes things worse. Israel is a coward just like Hezbollah.

At 8/8/06 12:15 AM, Anti_Noob wrote:

At 8/8/06 12:00 AM, Guitarmy wrote:

At 8/7/06 11:47 PM, Anti_Noob wrote:

At 8/7/06 11:46 PM, Guitarmy wrote: This sums up Israel's position pretty effectively. Hezbolla want the nation destroyed and turned into another fucked up Islamic Theology under the laws of 'Sharia'.

Where did you got that from? Don't you think you are being a bit too mean towards muslims in general?

Why don't you check say, every website for 'Palestinian Liberation', or Hezbolla

Better yet

Check this out and save yourself some time

You are aware of propaganda now aren't you?

You are aware of what a book is now aren't you?

How about you spend a little less time internent browsing and a little bit more time educating that GWB size brain of yours.

Right, now that you've got your contempt for me out of the way, how about a 'rebuttal' to the points raised in that presentation. Even attack the source if you want, but attacking me is pointless, I don't really care much for your opinion.

BTW, GWB's physical reported no strange anonolies of his brain. It is my understanding that his brain is human-sized.

At 8/8/06 12:28 AM, Guitarmy wrote: BTW, GWB's physical reported no strange anonolies of his brain. It is my understanding that his brain is human-sized.

You do know that any human brain is human size even those retarded possess.

At 8/8/06 12:15 AM, Anti_Noob wrote: How about you spend a little less time internent browsing and a little bit more time educating that GWB size brain of yours.

You're a fucking moron.

At 8/8/06 12:45 AM, Guitarmy wrote:

At 8/8/06 12:15 AM, Anti_Noob wrote: How about you spend a little less time internent browsing and a little bit more time educating that GWB size brain of yours.

You're a fucking moron.

You're a fucking loser and a dipshit.

OMG this is absolutely amazing never have i seen people rooting for Hezbollah with absolutely no information whatsoever. You might as well be selling donuts to a city that's on a diet. You get what i mean. the point is, how is Israel being a coward? How are you guys assuming Israel's worse than Hezbollah when the whole damn thing started with Hezbollah?!?! get your facts straight and dont repost until you do. And WHEN YOU DO, put down some damn links for us, prove us remotely wrong, eh?

it's strange nobody posted here today.
because it's the day the war stoped and Lebanon won(hahahaha).
i know i'm crazy... Hezbollah won over Israel; can you believe that all the Israeli technologies didn't work?
now Hezbollah is stronger than israel at last. even the israelies said that there is no army that can disarm hezbollah, so he will never be disarmed cause he refuse to... so what is the USA gonna do now... nothing cause hezbollah is probably stronger than the USA army.
Israel destroyed all Lebanon:killed 1000 civiliens and didn't achieve her goals and she can't do anything now.

I say you are a muslim that is an idiot.