At 5/4/06 11:51 AM, Ninja-chicken wrote: You have to be pretty dumb though if you didnt even tell him to co-author you :P

Speaking of antagonizing before you know the facts..
He did lead me to believe that he was going to co-author me. I would never have done all this work if I knew I was gonna be shortchanged in the end.

At 5/4/06 11:55 AM, Psycho_Goldfish wrote: hey shawn... wanna make a game together? I'll do art so at least one of us can get some credit!

wow thats the fastest ive ever seen a joke over-used :P

<3

At 5/4/06 11:55 AM, NegativeONE wrote: He did lead me to believe that he was going to co-author me. I would never have done all this work if I knew I was gonna be shortchanged in the end.

I feel for you. If he DOES co-author you eventually, will you get an award put on your account?

e-sue for e-damages..... demand 50% of all frontpage time and awards, and custody on weekends and hollidays.

JRF2 is no. 1 in the all time ranking, that co-author place is worth alot, vastcool is such a nub.

I have removed it from my favorites list in a show of support, 'cuz let's face it... neg is my fav mod! (afro is second, and luis definitely falls somewhere in the top 50 ...or so!)

At 5/4/06 11:55 AM, NegativeONE wrote: He did lead me to believe that he was going to co-author me.

What a hooker. Are you even on his buddy list?

At 5/4/06 11:47 AM, NegativeONE wrote: And at least me being co-authored would include a CLICKABLE link to my site.

Only way I think I can possibly help is by driving a bit more traffic your way, to compensate what you weren't getting by the game. Send me an affiliate banner (88x31) and a weblink if you like and Ill post you up on my site. I appreciate hard work, and seeing this game, you definitely deserve some credit.

At 5/4/06 11:57 AM, Depredation wrote: I feel for you. If he DOES co-author you eventually, will you get an award put on your account?

I don't think so. But the awards don't really concern me. I was just hoping to drive some traffic to my site, which a co-authorship spot would help much more.

NC, quit crotching up the thread, you're worse than me. I got a good laugh out of PG's joke.

At 5/4/06 12:02 PM, Kirk_Cocaine wrote: What a hooker. Are you even on his buddy list?

Yeah, actually. That was part of his scheme to cheat me into thinking I'd be getting co-auth.

jmtb, I'll send you my banner when I'm at home with a connection. Or you can grab it from afro's links.

Everyone's support is seriously appreciated. It makes this matter a whole lot easier to deal with.

At 5/4/06 11:55 AM, Psycho_Goldfish wrote: hey shawn... wanna make a game together? I'll do art so at least one of us can get some credit!

hahahah Go lose another T00F XD

I'll crotch up the thread as much I want. You're acting terribly anul today :P

Did you even get portal buddies with him?
Did you confront him yet?

Details

Did Neg complain to you? Because surely there would be some kinda reason for it, he clearly said it was Neg who did the coding in the info bit, so i doubt he'd have a problem co - authoring him.

im guessing neg has already posted before me, so i guess im just about to do some reading.

I hope this gets resolved soon.

Ryan Khatam (vastcool) sounds like a right dick. Was there much contact when you were making it with him?

Mogly stuff

Yep i knew that was gunna happen. i shoulda read a bit frist before responding.

Seems pretty tight, i dont see why he didnt though, he credited you in the opening credits didnt he?

Psyco goldfish and Mindchamber, i swear every thread i ever see with one of you in, the other one has posted too =P

At 5/4/06 12:12 PM, MindChamber wrote:

At 5/4/06 11:55 AM, Psycho_Goldfish wrote: hey shawn... wanna make a game together? I'll do art so at least one of us can get some credit!

hahahah Go lose another T00F XD

go BBQ me a burger.....

thought i might point this out ..[LINK]..
sorry for my crudley drawn arrow an all....
but still i do not think this is enough credit for neg but it is at least some.

At 5/4/06 12:35 PM, -fuzz- wrote: thought i might point this out ..[LINK]..
sorry for my crudley drawn arrow an all....
but still i do not think this is enough credit for neg but it is at least some.

That is the amount of credit you give somone who helped beta test the game, not program the entire thing!

At 5/4/06 12:15 PM, -Mogly- wrote: Did Neg complain to you? Because surely there would be some kinda reason for it, he clearly said it was Neg who did the coding in the info bit, so i doubt he'd have a problem co - authoring him.

Apparently he has a serious aversion to it.
I should note that I didn't take initiative to complain to anyone. It came to light because a few people were aware of how I'd been working on the project for quite some time, and noticed that I hadn't been co-authored. I don't have a connection at my new house right now, so a couple of people had already noticed and reviewed and/or emailed me before I even knew the game was out. Nor did I ask luis if he could make this thread for me. People are getting pissed off on my behalf. I appreciate it immensely, and it's not because I'm pulling strings on the sidelines or anything. It's just a situation that a lot of people can sympathize with.

Of course you don't credit him! Keep all the money you got for making that game too! you know you deserved it, all he did was half the work

its not like the game had jumping engines, or any engines at all for that matter, hell i could program something like that. but still negativeone does deserve way more credit.

At 5/4/06 12:56 PM, Inglor wrote: Of course you don't credit him! Keep all the money you got for making that game too! you know you deserved it, all he did was half the work

Lol, so much sarcasm these days.

At 5/4/06 12:59 PM, Dark_Spark wrote: its not like the game had jumping engines, or any engines at all for that matter, hell i could program something like that. but still negativeone does deserve way more credit.

you are tottaly missing the point, and it did have movement engines, and must of taken along time to code.

I'm confused, who's the good guy again?

At 5/4/06 01:03 PM, Barbeq wrote: I'm confused, who's the good guy again?

inglor, i think?

At 5/4/06 01:03 PM, Barbeq wrote: I'm confused, who's the good guy again?

May I please tell you? as a coder I need an artist's permission to speak.

At 5/4/06 12:59 PM, Dark_Spark wrote: its not like the game had jumping engines, or any engines at all for that matter, hell i could program something like that. but still negativeone does deserve way more credit.

Pathfinding algorithms > jumping engines. Jumping engines are a fucking joke, dude. Everyone and their dog has a jumping engine.
You don't seem to have any Flash credits to your name - especially games - so be careful what sweeping assumptions you make about the work involved in programming an entire game.

At 5/4/06 01:06 PM, NegativeONE wrote: Everyone and their dog has a jumping engine.

Even i have a jumping engine!!!

You don't seem to have any Flash credits to your name - especially games - so be careful what sweeping assumptions you make about the work involved in programming an entire game.

Although, he is very good at frame by frame.

For the record 90% of my first post was Ryan's own reply to my comment on him not crediting Neg. I didnt just decide to throw dirt on him.

Look for my review and his response and then you'll be annoyed like i was.

-L

Original reply, then:

So because Aaron did the programming, he should get Co-Author eh? *Author*.

I would understand if he helped me write the story, jokes, & puzzles. That would be an author. He coded the game, & very well. But I gave him all the direction & intructions of how I wanted the game to work. So, in my opinion, that does not deserve a "co-author" credit and I'm very surprised you would even make it an issue.

PS I fought to keep his name on the pre-loader.

That PS fucking bugs me worse than anything. Making it sound as if programming is less than even noticable. Without Negative the game would just be an animation, scoring like 2.5 or something. Fucking prick.