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Portal Abuse. :(

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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 18:50:08


(again, replying to posts through the thread as I need to)

At 1/4/06 04:01 PM, IoClock wrote: OK, just one thing I feel the need to point out.

If you prevent Clocks from voting on Clock movies until the Wednesday AFTER their submission, you are DESCRIMINATING against perhaps the 2000+ most active users on Newgrounds.

I have seen perhaps ten clocks, maximum, post since Clock Day 2003. The Clock Crew as we (older users who recall the initial CC from The Void, Sonne era and previous) know it has been dead for a long time. 2000+? Give me a break. They had a small percentage of that at their peak. The thing that the Clock Crew will most be know for is its legacy, which helped fuck knows how many shit submissions through on Clock Day 2005, through people abusing what Clock Day was supposed to be about. Over 1000 entries were submitted then, and I count the number from clocks on the fingers on one hand. Of course, 95% went through because people were 5-happy.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 18:51:53


Um get dem Wade we should be cheatin shame on us.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 18:55:22


You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 18:57:13


Also all of you dumbasses who are sucking wades dick, you're just as bad.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 18:58:18


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LMAO dat was Vozz you guys!!

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 18:59:15


I must toatally agree to this. Forums, where there are many groups sometimes will gather to vote 5 or 0 on something that should not be. Crack down on those forums!
:the alliance did some of that

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:00:16


At 1/4/06 12:00 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Something

I don't really understand what is going to happen?

So the "clock/lock/ss" groups won't be allowed to vote on a movie submitted by one of their members but, are "Clock/Lock/SS/etc." group movies that have gotten where they are because of mass voting going to be removed?

Are things like the Goatse collab, gay collab, Daily toon, B and other shit like that going to be removed or just left to rot?


Yes, my name is shit.. I would change it if I could.

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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:01:21


v0zz

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:03:19


At 1/4/06 06:50 PM, jonthomson wrote: (again, replying to posts through the thread as I need to)

At 1/4/06 04:01 PM, IoClock wrote: OK, just one thing I feel the need to point out.

If you prevent Clocks from voting on Clock movies until the Wednesday AFTER their submission, you are DESCRIMINATING against perhaps the 2000+ most active users on Newgrounds.
I have seen perhaps ten clocks, maximum, post since Clock Day 2003.

If you are talking about posting on Newgrounds then you don't know anything about the clock crew. They don't post on NGBBS because it sucks and it's a haven for idiocy.

The Clock Crew as we (older users who recall the initial CC from The Void, Sonne era and previous) know it has been dead for a long time.

Wow. There are still idiots like you who insist that the Clock crew is dead because they are not living up to your idea of there imagined glory days. You are quite dellusional. They are quite alive.

2000+? Give me a break. They had a small percentage of that at their peak. The thing that the Clock Crew will most be know for is its legacy, which helped fuck knows how many shit submissions through on Clock Day 2005, through people abusing what Clock Day was supposed to be about. Over 1000 entries were submitted then, and I count the number from clocks on the fingers on one hand. Of course, 95% went through because people were 5-happy.

You contradict your self. I'd like to paraphrase you. The majority of the spam on Bday2005 was not done by members of the Clock crew. CCmembers who worked hard got overlooked because of Ng users who wanted free points and saved crap from mostly non-clock members. They wanted there SAVE points. That's why it happened.

Look at that hypocrite Anderson's submission. Saved cause of B-day and its shit complaining about the days "Corruption" Ooooooooh. Get off you high horse you pompous asses and look at the bigger picture.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:04:03


About time someone stepped up to the plate. Makes me think, should NG introduce a system that officially makes a member part of a group (e.g. LL) to fortify this rule?

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:04:40


At 1/4/06 06:57 PM, vozz- wrote: Also all of you dumbasses who are sucking wades dick, you're just as bad.

Yeah one post and all these faggots jump on the wade bandwagon and suck his cock.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:05:24


Those bastards, they're just admiting that their flashes are aso crappy that they need to cheat to get the awards! Wade is right! Let's start angry mob! Who's with me!!!?!!!


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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:05:47


Cool.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:06:07


At 1/4/06 07:05 PM, Ryan_Kajito wrote: Those bastards, they're just admiting that their flashes are aso crappy that they need to cheat to get the awards! Wade is right! Let's start angry mob! Who's with me!!!?!!!

RAWR! HOOAH!

jk...maybe.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:06:20


fuck me. This shit right here :

2000+? Give me a break. They had a small percentage of that at their peak. The thing that the Clock Crew will most be know for is its legacy, which helped fuck knows how many shit submissions through on Clock Day 2005, through people abusing what Clock Day was supposed to be about. Over 1000 entries were submitted then, and I count the number from clocks on the fingers on one hand. Of course, 95% went through because people were 5-happy.

That's not my post. I didn't quote it correctly.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:06:31


At 1/4/06 05:05 PM, StrangeClock wrote: sense

That's pretty much the most intelligent post I've seen in this thread so far.

At 1/4/06 05:26 PM, MagicClock_ wrote: Fuck you Wade, that's like demeaning of Clocks. We can vote how we want to vote, and if you don't like it, then down with Newgrounds. We pretty much run this place.

And then the contrapositive. This isn't 2002 any more and don't pretend it is, not like the clocks "ran" NG at all.

The whole point of this is - if you honestly think a movie deserves a 10, review it a 10. If you think it deserves a 0, review it a 0. If you're thinking either of the above because of allegiance to some kind of flash group or author, or hatred towards one, don't bother reviewing. A review is supposed to be constructive, not simply be counting towards some statistic for an award. If you can't review fairly, don't review at all, or you'll lose the right to review.

At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

You're missing the point, asshat. I reviewed one of your movies an 8 earlier because it deserved an 8. If I'd have reviewed it 10 or 0 because of your affiliation to a flash group, that'd have been wrong. Review a movie according to what it deserves, it's that fucking simple. If you can't manage that, refrain from reviewing until it's ineligible for a weekyl award.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:10:45


ohboy Wade's sucking lotsof cocks today jgggmbf

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:11:00


I'm Luigi_dude12's Friend the person who made this flash http://www.newground..m/portal/view/286444
It was a great sprite movie and he worked for months and months and months on it. He never gotten an award alone before and thats what he was aiming for. He was exciting that he found out he might end up gettin review crew. To be honest I don't like clock movies. thats why I voted low on that one movie. but luigi dude gave there's a decent score. All he ever wanted was a lil award like a review crew for once and then he'll be happy. But now because of those bastards he might not continue anymore because of this. Because he worked so hard on it and he was really aiming for something anything, he'll be happy if he was jus in the top weekly 20s. But he didin't get that either but he was really aiming for review crew. I just hope you guys can help him out a bit after wut happened... I tryied everything to help

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:15:27


Yeah, I wish people wouldnt do that.

Your font burns my retinas D:

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:17:16


http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/286444
this is the actuall link sry

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:17:19


At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.

Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?


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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:17:22


At 1/4/06 07:03 PM, Shao_Khan wrote:

Not that you're a clock and can talk for the CC, but...

If you are talking about posting on Newgrounds then you don't know anything about the clock crew. They don't post on NGBBS because it sucks and it's a haven for idiocy.

I'm not talking about the BBS. I'm talking about the Portal. I've seen possibly a dozen Portal entries from clocks in the past two years.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:21:58


At 1/4/06 12:01 PM, TheFlashCat wrote: Agreed.

seconded...wait!


My name is EvanStone.

You will refer to me as such or I'll crack your head open with my level 20 rusty pipe.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:25:09


Although it is not likely that Mr. Wade Fulp will even notice my comment, I guess I'll put in my 2 cents.

First off, since when is it a crime to vote and review the way you want personally? Mr. Wade Fulp, you are not me, nor have you ever at any time been me. You do not know how I think, how I feel, or what I like. So don't tell me how I should or should not think, feel, and/or like. Contrary to popular belief, not all clocks or locks are 13 year olds, in fact, many locks and clocks such as myself are over 18, I myself being one of the oldest at 21 years old. We are not as ignorant as some would like to believe.

Sure I've voted 5 and reviewed 10 on movies or votes 0 and 0, but these were movies that I either, personally enjoyed or strongly disliked. I have always been a softy and I feel for up and coming artists so I am always lenient. But when I dislike something, I am strictly opposed and let it be known. So what if they may be a friend, a good fiend supports their buddy in their time of need and support them as he or she make his or her own way through life. In addition, I am left to also say, so what if they are made by fellow Locks or Clocks, I like what I like, just like any other person. We all have a variety of interests, that is what makes life interesting. As they say, "Variety is the spice of life", but when you try stamping out that "Variety" you loose that spice and you loose the flavor that was best to begin with.

I have been a habitual visitor of this site since 2001. (wow, 5 years sure does go by fast) I've bought stickers in the past even. I've seen this site go through highs and lows and even a couple of changes in layout on the site. However now, I am more and more uneasy towards this site. Most of the time, I end up placing my art elsewhere because of the lack of respect towards the author and the lack of knowledge of the product.

quote from Mr. Wade Fulp
If these groups were ethical they wouldn't even vote on or review entries submitted by members of their groups.

Asfor this quote, I wish to ask one question. What about fanboys/girls that vote 5/10 on their favorite authors? What do you intend to do about this? Are you going to start setting it up where a member is unable to vote/review as they wish because they may have a certain author in their favorites? I can easily think of examples from other artists such as Illwillpress and Legendary Frog in which they told all the forum members on their site and even posted on their front page to go vote 5 on their movie. (I've seen this with my own eyes so I know this to be true.) Until this issue is addressed you have little or no right to complain about possible abuses within the CC/LL/GG/ or SS.

Also, have you ever thought that some of us have no interest in getting an award. I for one simply think of any award I may win as just good luck as I don't really care about awards. I've never been a person that cared highly about always being #1 or what-not, I make flash because I enjoy making them, not because I want an award. It is just something to do to kill the time and if people like it or if by some spark of luck I win some award, then it is all for the better.

If you want my opinion, I say the simpliest thing to do would be totake away the ability to review from any member on the site that has not got a flash submission on the site. Only those who actually have made flash have a right in my opinion to judge another author's work. Non-flash-creating members would still be able to vote as they please and this would leave reveiews to those who actually have knowledge of the time and effort it takes to make a flash animation.

But hey, with the tragedy in West Virgina in the news and bad stuff happening worldwide, but here we are, arguing about some rule that Mr. Wade Fulp wants enacted because flash that he doesn't like happened to get awards. I'll give him credit that he is like any other person, he has likes and dislikes. According to his actions in the past year, I would say it is dislikes for the CC/LL/SS/GG etc. The site should be about creative freedom, not about putting out cookie cutter flashes that are all in the manner in which he wants. Each member should be valued for their visit. Each member that contributes to the site via flash should be valued even more. There are a very small minority of members that can actually make good fbf, and even fewer that can tween.

In short, you should rethink this idea and stop trying to make decisions for people. If you are going to do this, at least have the courtesy to take away the voting system and review system because not everyone shares the same taste as you. Remember as I said earlier, Variety is the spice of life, so go ahead and try to take in the different flavors because a single person is not likely to get a taste of them all and the more spices (variety) on Newgrounds, the better the food (portal and the site in general) will be.

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and my calm and well thought out response is worth your time to give a calm and well thought out response to Mr. Fulp.

Thanks for your time.
-Winchester


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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:26:01


freakin thank you wade. i'm sick of all these SS submissions with a score of 2.3 but with a review average of 9.7


Find a mountain to stand on.

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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:30:51


I have an opinion. I MUST TYPE SAID OPINION IN CAPITALS SO THAT EVERYONE ELSE NOTICES IT!

Then I should quote a person so that they may respond to what I've said.

At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, jonthomson wrote: Not that you're a clock and can talk for the CC, but...

ur wrong! Your wrong cause I have declared what you said as incorrectr because it contradicts with what I say. In conclusion, I am right. I win.

I'm not talking about the BBS. I'm talking about the Portal. I've seen possibly a dozen Portal entries from clocks in the past two years.

Now I must point out an obvious fact that's widely known and contributes nothing to this discussion such as THE BBS AND THE PORTAL ARE NOT THE SAME THING! Notice that I typed in caps to show my anger and so that I could be noticed.

Then I'm going to comment on Wade, just because Wade is widely known, and even though he'll never answer me.

fdsffsddfs

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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:31:06


At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, Ryan_Kajito wrote:
At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.
Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?

Are you stupid? Wade didn't create it. Tom did. Wade is just Tom's brother who likes to attack people on the BBS to make him self feel big. Fuck off n00b.

Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:35:46


At 1/4/06 07:31 PM, vozz- wrote:
At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, Ryan_Kajito wrote:
At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.
Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?
Are you stupid? Wade didn't create it. Tom did. Wade is just Tom's brother who likes to attack people on the BBS to make him self feel big. Fuck off n00b.

Waid still has been given permission by Tom to admin the site. So, the only person who can stop Waid is Tom, not you guys. So stfu and quit thinking that NG is democratic, or, even better, quit caring so much. This is really Waid and Tom's decision, not yours. You don't have a "right" to do all the stuff you do on NG, you have the PRIVILEDGE of doing that.

You guys are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats getting a time out.


You can't spell subtext without buttsex. | I control Psycryptik | Psycryptik controls your mind

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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:35:55


At 1/4/06 07:31 PM, vozz- wrote:
At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, Ryan_Kajito wrote:
At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.
Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?
Are you stupid? Wade didn't create it. Tom did. Wade is just Tom's brother who likes to attack people on the BBS to make him self feel big. Fuck off n00b.

Vozz speaks truth as shown on this link to the NG Literature page.

http://www.newgrounds.com/lit/history.html

Ross coded a new message board from the ground up, integrating it with our existing user system. All of the new back-end systems required an increasing amount of maintenance, so I hired my brother Wade to help keep the site running. Wade had always been an active, dedicated user of the site, so he was the perfect choice to help keep an eye on everything that went on. http://www.newgrounds.com/lit/history.html


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Response to Portal Abuse. :( 2006-01-04 19:38:43


Reviews done for this purpose (mass voting) usually break review rules about being pointless/irrelevent, so mark them as abusive is possible.

Users who take this as serious as I do probably already do this, but keep it in mind.