At 2/6/09 04:28 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

At 2/6/09 01:34 AM, aldlv wrote:

At 2/6/09 01:12 AM, Phantom wrote:

At 2/5/09 08:38 PM, evan210 wrote: i shall greet you formally, sir:
WAAZZZAAAAAAAAAAP

I will tell you to officially fuck off.
Ok, no. Too rude?

for being you... no... was normal, is cool
the NGDoD is the club were ppl told you that you were too rude... but here, we all love that style (we all, right guys?...)

I don't think that I "love" it, that's like too much. But yeah, I found it rather funny. "officially fuck off" haha... I also liked the "I really hope you can travel through time though" from the last page :D

hmm... yes it sounds weird... love is to hard, i realize later...
is because in Spanish there is a word between like and love, that's what i mean
is strange.. in english you have love and like, in spanish we have gustar, encantar, amar, agradar, querer...
XD

At 2/7/09 02:47 PM, Shoopufzilla wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 2156
This is, in fact, stolen. I've PMed the original author; Klan, about it and he confirmed it.

damn it passed... so, who is going to PM Wade?

At 2/7/09 06:08 PM, aldlv wrote: damn it passed... so, who is going to PM Wade?

The person who reports it to the EGB is responsible for follow-up.

Anyway, byteslinger brought up a good idea on the EGB forums. In order to help in our fight against abusive reviews (as well as bring some more activity to the forums), we will be re-creating the abusive review thread of NG lore at the forums. However, dammit, we will be learning from the mistakes made in the original and avoid them in our iteration.

You can find the thread here. You must be logged in to the forums to view and post.

There are a few rules to posting links there, in order to avoid some of the problems of the past.

1. Don't post unnecessarily. Try to limit posts to once a day, and if you find more abusive reviews after posting, edit your post instead of making a new one. I will delete links/posts once things are taken care of.

2. If you're only linking to one or two abusive reviews, point out which they are and why, so that inexperienced whistlers can understand what is and what is not abuse. Rule of thumb---if they're insulting the author instead of the flash, they're abusive.

3. Unless it's significantly abusive---spam links, chain reviews, death threats---try to avoid listing abuse more than a year old. Review mods are unlikely to delete normal abuse if it's older than that.

4. If you find a single abusive review on a flash, check the user's other reviews. If they have many abusive reviews, link to the user instead of the flash.

5. If you find a large amount of abuse, mention it in the EGB and link to this thread. Try not to do this too often, though, or for only small amounts of abusive reviews. Common sense should be applied.

6. Everyone is responsible for their own whistling. Do not assume every damn mean-sounding review is abusive, or you may find yourself going down instead of up. Likewise, if you're not sure if something is abusive, ask.

At 2/7/09 06:08 PM, aldlv wrote:

At 2/6/09 04:28 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

At 2/6/09 01:34 AM, aldlv wrote:

At 2/6/09 01:12 AM, Phantom wrote:

At 2/5/09 08:38 PM, evan210 wrote: i shall greet you formally, sir:
WAAZZZAAAAAAAAAAP

I will tell you to officially fuck off.
Ok, no. Too rude?

for being you... no... was normal, is cool
the NGDoD is the club were ppl told you that you were too rude... but here, we all love that style (we all, right guys?...)

I don't think that I "love" it, that's like too much. But yeah, I found it rather funny. "officially fuck off" haha... I also liked the "I really hope you can travel through time though" from the last page :D

hmm... yes it sounds weird... love is to hard, i realize later...
is because in Spanish there is a word between like and love, that's what i mean
is strange.. in english you have love and like, in spanish we have gustar, encantar, amar, agradar, querer...
XD

Spanish > English
Not because I speak Spanish, but it's better in my opinion. Though, it's much more difficult to learn due to its complexity, but that's what makes it good.

No offense to English speakers, don't worry, your language is great too <3

At 2/7/09 07:31 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Anyway, byteslinger brought up a good idea on the EGB forums.

I think it's a great idea, and it's also good to see that we have some good rules from the beginning, so taking care of the thread should be easy. And besides no anyone can post there, only members of the EGB who know what is abusive or not. And if someone doesn't exactly know if something is abusive or not, don't worry, you can just ask and I think there's a FAQ about flagging reviews in the forums.

BTW the EGB forum isn't working for me right now, probably the server is down or something by the style, I'll check back later :)

I too have Pm Tom Fulp about that author HaloTomato, I linked the latest movie he has stolen. I found the original from 2005 here.

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  -Hybrid music video-

  by Waterflame

  hybrid <3

  Movie

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Okay maybe not the actual one but its looks close enough is this it? Anyway thanks for the links without the thread its easy to lose track of stolen material. SlashFirestorm just reading you post the idea sounds brilliant, as you know I was gutted when the Rage's thread got locked spoiled by a few people who did not take any notice of the warnings. I will link to abusive reviews. I flag lots of reviews all the time hence my whistle. I do check other people's reviews as well good idea though. My bloody sound gone again.

At 2/7/09 08:54 PM, Ismael92 wrote: Spanish > English
Not because I speak Spanish, but it's better in my opinion. Though, it's much more difficult to learn due to its complexity, but that's what makes it good.

Yeah but your opinion is obviously biased because you speak it, English is far superior in reality and was paid the biggest compliment when countries ripped it off and made it into their own form of language. Imitation is the sincerest of flattery, lol.

English is more complex than Spanish but if you've been brought up speaking both then you aren't really going to notice. Spanish, French and some other languages have few rules in them among other things like many words meaning the same thing. English is built around so many diffrent languages so we have many rules and words, thus making it more complex.

So yeah, I think English is more complex, sorry to dissapoint you ;)

Though I wish English was simple, that would make it so much easier.

Well, anyway once you learn a language you'll always find it very simple so... I don't know...

But there's still one more thing that I don't like about English... The fact that some words have a "random" pronunciation. In Spanish when you see a word, you know exactly how it's pronounced, however if you ever see a new word in English you may not know how to pronounce it.

And it's also the other way around, in Spanish if you now how something is pronounced you know how to write it... But that's why don't we have spelling contests and all that stuff :(
Spelling contests seem funny, but they are no fun in Spanish :( +1 cool point for English.

At 2/8/09 06:01 AM, Little-Rena wrote:

At 2/7/09 08:54 PM, Ismael92 wrote: Spanish > English
Not because I speak Spanish, but it's better in my opinion. Though, it's much more difficult to learn due to its complexity, but that's what makes it good.

Yeah but your opinion is obviously biased because you speak it, English is far superior in reality and was paid the biggest compliment when countries ripped it off and made it into their own form of language. Imitation is the sincerest of flattery, lol.

i don't think it is based on that...
and what imitations are you talking about??????

English is more complex than Spanish but if you've been brought up speaking both then you aren't really going to notice. Spanish, French and some other languages have few rules in them among other things like many words meaning the same thing. English is built around so many different languages so we have many rules and words, thus making it more complex.

English has more rules that doesn't allow you to express well, the rules are very... make the conversation very "esquematicas"... i feel i have to say everything the same way, is repetitive
I don't know which language has more rules, but the rules in Spanish allow you a really open conversation, you can say the same thing in very different ways, has a lot more variations
you would consider that is better to say things in just one way make it more organized or something, but i think that being able to express yourself in differente ways and the meaning of it doesn't change much makes your way of talking unique.. everyone understand you, but probably not many ppl talk the way you do

So yeah, I think English is more complex, sorry to dissapoint you ;)

sorry for disappoint you too XD

Though I wish English was simple, that would make it so much easier.

the Spanish isn't simple because you have to learn a lot more than English, but i would say it's simple because you can express more and better

btw... i hope this is just a nice conversation about our opinion and hope this doesn't convert on a discussion... anyway i don't think anyone will be able to convince the other person

At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, Ismael92 wrote: Spelling contests seem funny, but they are no fun in Spanish :( +1 cool point for English.

we don't need that in spanish man... i don't know how funny they can be, but a competition between school children (well, i know is not only for the kids... i know...) don't make a language better than another

At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, Ismael92 wrote: But there's still one more thing that I don't like about English... The fact that some words have a "random" pronunciation.

That's what makes English more complex than other languages and harder to learn for some because of it.

At 2/8/09 12:45 PM, aldlv wrote: and what imitations are you talking about??????

Other forms of English like American English, Australian English, those are based on English from England only with a few changes to several words and spelling rules.

the Spanish isn't simple because you have to learn a lot more than English, but i would say it's simple because you can express more and better

Point proven already that English is complex to learn, your post contained several grammatical errors that I am not going to point out, unless you want them pointing out so you can avoid making the mistakes. I'm not saying Spanish is easy to learn, what I said was it's not as complex as English.

don't make a language better than another

No language is better than another but each language can vary in its complexity.

At 2/8/09 01:59 PM, Little-Rena wrote:

At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, Ismael92 wrote: But there's still one more thing that I don't like about English... The fact that some words have a "random" pronunciation.

That's what makes English more complex than other languages and harder to learn for some because of it.

but is not hard to learn all that

At 2/8/09 12:45 PM, aldlv wrote: and what imitations are you talking about??????

Other forms of English like American English, Australian English, those are based on English from England only with a few changes to several words and spelling rules.

of course that English English is way different... and is magnificent compared to the 'imitations'...
but then again, Spanish has also a lot of variations... what kind of spanish you heard?... the one from Spain?

the Spanish isn't simple because you have to learn a lot more than English, but i would say it's simple because you can express more and better

Point proven already that English is complex to learn, your post contained several grammatical errors that I am not going to point out, unless you want them pointing out so you can avoid making the mistakes. I'm not saying Spanish is easy to learn, what I said was it's not as complex as English.

i still say is not complex, is methodical and limited, and have few possibilities... you use like 5 times more different words in your life if you speak spanish

don't make a language better than another

No language is better than another but each language can vary in its complexity.

i agree with this...
btw, this conversation is about spanish english, interesting that no-one add anorhter language
right Sir nuts?... I would like to hear your opinion about this also... you know a few of both but you speak Portuguese... so he can be in the middle

At 2/8/09 01:59 PM, Little-Rena wrote:

At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, Ismael92 wrote: But there's still one more thing that I don't like about English... The fact that some words have a "random" pronunciation.

That's what makes English more complex than other languages and harder to learn for some because of it.

No... exceptions in a language are not what makes it hard to learn. Cause you don't need to know every single word in a language to speak it. But you need all the basic rules of it. So that's making French, Spanish and a lot of other languages, a lot more difficult than English to learn.

At 2/8/09 12:45 PM, aldlv wrote: and what imitations are you talking about??????

Other forms of English like American English, Australian English, those are based on English from England only with a few changes to several words and spelling rules.

the Spanish isn't simple because you have to learn a lot more than English, but i would say it's simple because you can express more and better

Point proven already that English is complex to learn, your post contained several grammatical errors that I am not going to point out, unless you want them pointing out so you can avoid making the mistakes. I'm not saying Spanish is easy to learn, what I said was it's not as complex as English.

No.... even if there was grammatical errors, the structure of the sentence was quite simple to understand. As I said, what's making a language hard to learn and speak is not the pronounciation or the spelling of the words...

And Spanish is way harder than English to learn. Just like French is harder to learn. In English you don't have all the genres. Let me explain... a sentence in French is going to be completely different if your talking about a girl instead of a boy.

I'll show you..
here's the English version:

She called her kind neighboor
He called his kind neighboor

Il a appellé son gentil voisin.
Elle a appellée sa gentille voisine.

(in this case both the guy and the neighboor are guys, and in the other case, both are girls)

don't make a language better than another

No language is better than another but each language can vary in its complexity.

I live in Quebec and the first language I learned is French and I started to learn English in school at the age of 7. Lucky me... my parents and my brother are really good in English, so I was already able to speak it before learning it in school.

The thing is that I'm still learning the French language... it's really hard to master. It's a lot harder than English.

I still consider that both are very nice languages.

At 2/8/09 04:38 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'll show you..
here's the English version:

She called her kind neighboor
He called his kind neighboor

Il a appellé son gentil voisin.
Elle a appellée sa gentille voisine.

And that's exactly what I hate about French there are all those things like endings and forms, which really aren't that necessary, making things complicated. I just don't see the point in adding a "ent" or a "es" at the end of a word if you're not even going to hear the difference. My dad's French speaking and I speak French quite well, but not as well as English and German. A good thing about German is that you can shuffle the words around quite a lot, which gives you variation.

At 2/8/09 02:28 PM, aldlv wrote:

At 2/8/09 01:59 PM, Little-Rena wrote:

At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, Ismael92 wrote: But there's still one more thing that I don't like about English... The fact that some words have a "random" pronunciation.

That's what makes English more complex than other languages and harder to learn for some because of it.

(more stuff...)
btw, this conversation is about spanish english, interesting that no-one add anorhter language

Well, I used to speak German fairly fluently, after taking it for 7 years between high school and college, and having (now deceased, unfortunately) some relatives from Germany which helped reinforce it.

Learning German was actually easier than English - the words they use tend to be phonetic, and long words are simply a bunch of shorter words strung together. For eaxmple, a car is "Auto" (pronounced "Out-Oh") and a street is a "Bahn" , so a highway for cars only is "Autobahn".

In addition, German (which is derived from old Teutonic and Saxon roots) has a very structured syntax for verb tenses, pronoun handling and gender inflection. Because most of the language follows these rules, it's easier to expand your vocabulary and learn faster.

English, on the other hand, is not just English, but a mix of many other languages. There are certainly regional and nation dialect differences, but that does not help it when you have two words spelled exactly the same way, but pronounced differently based on what you mean. Like this sentence:

"Could you project the project outline on the screen? He would lead the team with a lead fist"
(Pro-jeckt and Prah-jeckt, Leed and Led)

Confusing as hell to anyone trying to learn it. But that's what made English so hard - all different countries try to learn it, but in the process, change it a bit for their own use, whether they mean to or not. We add hundreds of new words to the dictionary each year, and keep piling on more slang and tech jargon. Sometimes, it's even hard for us Americans to speak English properly. What a language!

But that's just my 2 cents!
(das ist meinen zwei pfennig!)

*Salutes*

At 2/8/09 04:38 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: No... exceptions in a language are not what makes it hard to learn. Cause you don't need to know every single word in a language to speak it. But you need all the basic rules of it. So that's making French, Spanish and a lot of other languages, a lot more difficult than English to learn.

thanx...

At 2/8/09 12:45 PM, aldlv wrote: and what imitations are you talking about??????

Other forms of English like American English, Australian English, those are based on English from England only with a few changes to several words and spelling rules.

the Spanish isn't simple because you have to learn a lot more than English, but i would say it's simple because you can express more and better

Point proven already that English is complex to learn, your post contained several grammatical errors that I am not going to point out, unless you want them pointing out so you can avoid making the mistakes. I'm not saying Spanish is easy to learn, what I said was it's not as complex as English.

No.... even if there was grammatical errors, the structure of the sentence was quite simple to understand. As I said, what's making a language hard to learn and speak is not the pronounciation or the spelling of the words...

i agree...

And Spanish is way harder than English to learn. Just like French is harder to learn. In English you don't have all the genres. Let me explain... a sentence in French is going to be completely different if your talking about a girl instead of a boy.

I'll show you..
here's the English version:

She called her kind neighboor
He called his kind neighboor

Il a appellé son gentil voisin.
Elle a appellée sa gentille voisine.

(in this case both the guy and the neighboor are guys, and in the other case, both are girls)

in spanish it would be

Ella llamó a su gentil vecina
El llamó a su gentil vecino

(and the same guy-guy, then girl-girl

don't make a language better than another

No language is better than another but each language can vary in its complexity.

I live in Quebec and the first language I learned is French and I started to learn English in school at the age of 7. Lucky me... my parents and my brother are really good in English, so I was already able to speak it before learning it in school.

i have to say French have always got my atention... is a langue i really would like to learn
i started with a few tutorial on internet, but that is not a good way to learn, but right now i don't have time to go to an academy or thing

The thing is that I'm still learning the French language... it's really hard to master. It's a lot harder than English.

=D...

I still consider that both are very nice languages.

i can imagine, i say the same for both english and spanish...

At 2/8/09 04:45 PM, FC-Thun-Fan wrote: And that's exactly what I hate about French there are all those things like endings and forms, which really aren't that necessary, making things complicated. I just don't see the point in adding a "ent" or a "es" at the end of a word if you're not even going to hear the difference. My dad's French speaking and I speak French quite well, but not as well as English and German. A good thing about German is that you can shuffle the words around quite a lot, which gives you variation.

they are very necessary in spanish, so that way you don't have to add he, she, it... to every single sentences
well, in spanish you definitely heard the difference, i know that in french the last letters are sometime omitted when talking but even like that, they are part of it

At 2/8/09 04:38 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: No... exceptions in a language are not what makes it hard to learn. Cause you don't need to know every single word in a language to speak it. But you need all the basic rules of it. So that's making French, Spanish and a lot of other languages, a lot more difficult than English to learn.

English has more grammatical rules to learn because of the ammount of languages it was built around, being invaded so many times, diffrent rules became a part of the language. I never said you needed to know every word, but what you seem to be failing to grasp is that the more rules in a language, the more complex it is going to be.

English Language

"It takes longer for students to become completely fluent readers of English than of many other languages, including French, Greek, and Spanish."

At 2/8/09 04:55 PM, byteslinger wrote: Well, I used to speak German fairly fluently, after taking it for 7 years between high school and college

As I recall from hearing somewhere, German shares a few common rules with English so Germans pick up English as a second language easier than say a French person. I imagin it works both ways.

English, on the other hand, is not just English, but a mix of many other languages. There are certainly regional and nation dialect differences, but that does not help it when you have two words spelled exactly the same way, but pronounced differently based on what you mean.

Oh I'm glad someone else knows this, makes me all happy to know that other people are aware of the mixture of English.

If you are brought up learning English as a second language while you are young, you are going to pick it up quite easily but will still probably make more errors in speech, reading and writting than a native speaker, unless you're quite intelligent and good at picking up new languages.

At 2/8/09 12:45 PM, aldlv wrote: btw... i hope this is just a nice conversation about our opinion and hope this doesn't convert on a discussion... anyway i don't think anyone will be able to convince the other person

Nah, it's just a "friendly discussion" :)

But yeah, Spanish has a lot (or at least a few) synonyms for each word and that's one of the main reasons why I like this language so much, sometimes in English the conversations can get a bit repetitive.

Meh...

What's up EGB I'm back from my exciting deployment! (note generous amount of sarcasm applied.) Good to be back home. :)

It's cool to see that other members are interested in different languages. I myself am taking on Tagalog (Filipino) right now. The hardest part of Tagalog for me are the verbs. There are about 15 different suffix, prefix, infix, or combination therof for each verb. Each 'fix' can change the meaning of the verb completely. It makes it difficult to recognise or understand the verbs if you're not concentrating and to remember what exactly each 'fix' for the verb represents. I'm sure it will get easier but right now it's a pain in the ass. Still I'm actually enjoying learning the language and can be pretty fun at times. Also me and the wife might be going to the Philippines this summer so I would like to be at least semi fluent by the time we go.

At 2/8/09 05:02 PM, Little-Rena wrote:

If you are brought up learning English as a second language while you are young, you are going to pick it up quite easily but will still probably make more errors in speech, reading and writting than a native speaker, unless you're quite intelligent and good at picking up new languages.

I couldn't imagine how hard it would be to learn English as a second language. I think it would also blow for the fact that many Americans are condescending towards people with bad english.

So, I just made a quick run of the Portal, my first run in a good while. And damn, it was worse than I expected. How does shit like this pass? The fucking Barney Bunch made better flash than that...

I once again find myself longing for portal mods, even if only to get rid of the most egregious of the egregious. Until then, everyone keep at it. Even if utter shit is passing with scores of over 2, it's because of those like us that keep every day from being a Clock Day.

I though you meant the Cyberen series that in my opinion, sucks so much the same tedious intro with a loop nothing do with the description. The flash you posted I thought was quite funny but then I love Clock flashes, although the quality and stuff may not be great, its better then some stuff I have seen recently for instance this guy from FFF

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  by <deleted>

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Uses racist words spam or not? I get so sick of that shit passing but what can you do? I think Portal Mods are a good idea but the Wade Fulp lot went very quiet. In other new LordzZebMork got his account unlocked, and Corky52 did not die it was someone who was depositing for him made a sick joke.

At 2/8/09 10:48 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Uses racist words spam or not? I get so sick of that shit passing but what can you do?

N-word is always an instant whistle. Vote zero, whistle, and if it passes, inform Wade. For now, that's all we can do.

At 2/8/09 05:02 PM, Little-Rena wrote: English Language

"It takes longer for students to become completely fluent readers of English than of many other languages, including French, Greek, and Spanish."

Completely true. Since French, Spanish, Italian are based off of Latin, they are easier to learn when you already know one. Also, 99% of the words are pronounced the way they are spelled.

But English has a huge discrepancy between spelling and speaking. Take "through" for example. If it were spelled like it was said, it would be spelled "thru". And to piggy back off of that, some words are pronounced the same but are spelled different. Like "through" and "threw"; one means to pass inside of something while the other means is the past tense of throw. And then of course you have the same spelling and pronunciation, but different meanings. Take the word "lead". Now, you can be talking about some one who is in charge of people, or a type of metal.

Sure, if you're born into it, it's easy. But to learn it when you're older, it's tougher than taking any other language because of all of the weird rules about spelling and pronunciation.

As I recall from hearing somewhere, German shares a few common rules with English so Germans pick up English as a second language easier than say a French person. I imagin it works both ways.

Yes. German has a lot of similar rules, words and pronunciations as English. Although German does have the 2 dots about some vowels, along with words that can be 10-20 words long. But overall, they are similar like the Romance Languages.

English, on the other hand, is not just English, but a mix of many other languages.

Yes, the English language does seem to borrow a lot of words and phrases from other cultures and languages, and then mold them to fit into our rules. German was probably the starting point, and it evolved from there.

If you are brought up learning English as a second language while you are young, you are going to pick it up quite easily but will still probably make more errors in speech, reading and writting than a native speaker, unless you're quite intelligent and good at picking up new languages.

It's a proven fact that the younger you are, the better you are at picking up new languages. That's why it's so easy for a baby to learn how to speak within 3-4 years with a still-developing brain, but a fully grown human much longer to pick up the language if never exposed to it.

At 2/8/09 04:45 PM, FC-Thun-Fan wrote:

At 2/8/09 04:38 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'll show you..
here's the English version:

She called her kind neighboor
He called his kind neighboor

Il a appellé son gentil voisin.
Elle a appellée sa gentille voisine.

And that's exactly what I hate about French there are all those things like endings and forms, which really aren't that necessary, making things complicated. I just don't see the point in adding a "ent" or a "es" at the end of a word if you're not even going to hear the difference. My dad's French speaking and I speak French quite well, but not as well as English and German. A good thing about German is that you can shuffle the words around quite a lot, which gives you variation.

Well, that's what makes it special and beautiful. If it was too basic it just wouldnt be the same. In fact, even if it's a pain in the ass to understand it all and to speak it, I'm quite happy with the fact that I can speak it.

I'd like to learn German someday. Finnish also seems quite nice.

At 2/8/09 05:02 PM, Little-Rena wrote:

At 2/8/09 04:38 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: No... exceptions in a language are not what makes it hard to learn. Cause you don't need to know every single word in a language to speak it. But you need all the basic rules of it. So that's making French, Spanish and a lot of other languages, a lot more difficult than English to learn.

English has more grammatical rules to learn because of the ammount of languages it was built around, being invaded so many times, diffrent rules became a part of the language. I never said you needed to know every word, but what you seem to be failing to grasp is that the more rules in a language, the more complex it is going to be.

In fact, there is a lot of little exceptions in the English language that makes it complex as you said. But I do not consider that it's making it harder to learn because, as I said before, exceptions are not going to make it unspeakable. If you don't know all the different rules, you can still find a way to speak it quite fluently.

English Language

"It takes longer for students to become completely fluent readers of English than of many other languages, including French, Greek, and Spanish."

I can't take this a proof... I have been speaking French ever since I was born, and I started to learn english at 7. And today, I have nothing more to learn in English... except for "expressions" which are not going to be written in dictionnary or teached in class, cause they are more like a part of a culture rather than a part of the language itself. The only other thing I got to learn in English are just the translations of the words I already know in French.
Well... these aren't really the only "two" things I still got to learn, but I think you get the idea.

But I cannot say that it's the same for French. Cause I'm still learning how to speak it and write it. I have been through 14 years of stuying of the French language in school. And I still have to learn a few things.

At 2/8/09 04:55 PM, byteslinger wrote: Well, I used to speak German fairly fluently, after taking it for 7 years between high school and college

As I recall from hearing somewhere, German shares a few common rules with English so Germans pick up English as a second language easier than say a French person. I imagin it works both ways.

English, on the other hand, is not just English, but a mix of many other languages. There are certainly regional and nation dialect differences, but that does not help it when you have two words spelled exactly the same way, but pronounced differently based on what you mean.

Oh I'm glad someone else knows this, makes me all happy to know that other people are aware of the mixture of English.

It's pretty sad that a lot of English speaking people do not know it...
I think it's kind of sad when I have to teach people about their own language.
Some Americans have insulted me and my French speaking friends when we were playing Call Of Duty 4. They said our language was gay and shitty... And when I told them that the English language was somewhat based on the French one... they just said "No it's not! You suck!"

If you are brought up learning English as a second language while you are young, you are going to pick it up quite easily but will still probably make more errors in speech, reading and writting than a native speaker, unless you're quite intelligent and good at picking up new languages.

That's totally me :)

At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, Ismael92 wrote: The fact that some words have a "random" pronunciation. In Spanish when you see a word, you know exactly how it's pronounced, however if you ever see a new word in English you may not know how to pronounce it.

You obviously mean words like "though", as part of the medieval spelling that this descends from loves to have lots of silent letters. It;s better than when they used to get the Fs and Ss confused

"You look weary, traveller", faid the monk. "Would you allow uf to grant you fucker?"

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  by <deleted>

  Under Judgment

  (Everyone)

I'm getting weary of this.

At 2/8/09 04:55 PM, byteslinger wrote: "Could you project the project outline on the screen? He would lead the team with a lead fist"
(Pro-jeckt and Prah-jeckt, Leed and Led)

Confusing as hell to anyone trying to learn it.

Indeed.

At 2/8/09 04:56 PM, aldlv wrote: in spanish it would be

Ella llamó a su gentil vecina
El llamó a su gentil vecino

Yeah, note that in Spanish, most times if a word ends with "a" (such as vecina) you're talking about a female. If the words ends with "o", you're usually talking about a male thing. And I think that's a cool thing about Spanish, because it's more specific.

i have to say French have always got my atention... is a langue i really would like to learn
i started with a few tutorial on internet, but that is not a good way to learn, but right now i don't have time to go to an academy or thing

Yeah, French sounds good in certain way. My mom knows some French because she loves that language, and I like how it sounds.

At 2/9/09 12:21 AM, TheThing wrote:

At 2/8/09 05:02 PM, Little-Rena wrote: English Language

"It takes longer for students to become completely fluent readers of English than of many other languages, including French, Greek, and Spanish."

Completely true. Since French, Spanish, Italian are based off of Latin, they are easier to learn when you already know one. Also, 99% of the words are pronounced the way they are spelled.

In Spanish, it's 100% :D
Except for the words that come from another languages... But it isn't really Spanish.

At 2/9/09 04:16 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, Ismael92 wrote: The fact that some words have a "random" pronunciation. In Spanish when you see a word, you know exactly how it's pronounced, however if you ever see a new word in English you may not know how to pronounce it.

You obviously mean words like "though", as part of the medieval spelling that this descends from loves to have lots of silent letters. It;s better than when they used to get the Fs and Ss confused

"You look weary, traveller", faid the monk. "Would you allow uf to grant you fucker?"

Well I don't know about the medieval spelling, but that reminded me when I always used to pronounce "though" wrong... lol. Also I usually pronounce certain words wrongly, even if I know I'm doing it wrong, it's just because I'm stupid.
Anyway I suck at speaking in English. Seriously, I suck. In my English exam a couple of months ago, I got "exceptional" at everything, but my speaking was "borderline".

I wish I had the time and energy to learn a second language. Though I suppose technically it would be a third considering I have some ability in speaking French, I live in a bilingual province of French and English so I've managed to pick up some of the French. If I had a choice I'd probably take in some Spanish, I've always admired the way it sounds, but for now I'll just be glad I grew up with English rather than have to struggle through it later on

At 2/9/09 07:26 PM, perfect-insanity wrote: I wish I had the time and energy to learn a second language. Though I suppose technically it would be a third considering I have some ability in speaking French

Well, then I suppose that technically English is actually my third language. I've been to Brazil so many times (like 7 or 8) that I've learned some of it. And besides it's similar to Spanish due to both languages being based on Latin.

That brings back a lot of good memories of the first times I went to Brazil, asking for directions and things was so funny, but later you get used to it. Especially if for example you stay at a hotel or whatever place you're surrounded by people who speak Portuguese. And eventually you learn to say some things repeating what you say, and saying that combined with Spanish words with Portuguese-ish accent you manage to talk to other people and start learning the language... A bit...

Good times, good times...

At 2/9/09 08:56 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

At 2/9/09 07:26 PM, perfect-insanity wrote:

Sorry i have been awall for over 2 weeks but i got banned and after that i lost my interests for posting and know i feel like posting so here i am.

I wish I had the time and energy to learn a second language. Though I suppose technically it would be a third considering I have some ability in speaking French

It's really good to learn a seconed language, i can tell people what i really think of them and they would never know what hit them. I take spanish in school and well it's kind of forced on me.

Well, then I suppose that technically English is actually my third language. I've been to Brazil so many times (like 7 or 8) that I've learned some of it. And besides it's similar to Spanish due to both languages being based on Latin.

English is my first languange, Then i take spanish so thats my seconded language. On the side every once in a while i try to learn some italian since thats where my family's from well to be exact Palermo, Sicily some family memebers like my great grandmothers mother who did not travel over and the 1 or 2 of her kids that did not come over own a olive grove that i shold claim sometime @;-}>

The only language I ever use is English but I have always wanted to learn another one, I know a few words of french or German but I'm not fluent in them. There are lots of people on here who speak English better then I do!. Anyway on the flash I will Pm Tom Fulp, the last guy who I linked got all his flashes blammed, sadly his account still here, but here is the link to the flashes http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/obituar ies.php Cool glad about that quick work as well. FFF guy been deleted yet again here http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 2103. Sadly I did not get any blams from it.

Off topic yoshi777777 has been deleted or he made a new account, what happened here? http://yoshi77777.newgrounds.com/. Cant seem to find his main account has he had a name change?

At 2/9/09 10:04 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Off topic yoshi777777 has been deleted or he made a new account, what happened here? http://yoshi77777.newgrounds.com/. Cant seem to find his main account has he had a name change?

he changed his name
http://miharuforever.newgrounds.com/

(part of his 'no more spam' attitude right now...)

At 2/9/09 08:56 PM, Ismael92 wrote: Well, then I suppose that technically English is actually my third language. I've been to Brazil so many times (like 7 or 8) that I've learned some of it. And besides it's similar to Spanish due to both languages being based on Latin.

Well, Portuguese (what they speak in Brazil) is basically Spanish, but with a slight change in pronunciation, which leads to a slight change in spelling

you manage to talk to other people and start learning the language... A bit...

Getting thrown into the lake like that really makes you have to learn how to swim. You can kind of see how other people do it, and if you can't do the Butterfly, you can swim well enough to get by.

I really want to continue in Spanish, just so that I can go to other countries and not look like an ignorant tourist. In fact, I had to use some Spanish last year when I was working for Subway. A mom (older; 50's give or take) and a daughter (late 20's-early30's) came in. The mom apparently didn't know any English, because the daughter was making all of the orders, and asking what she wanted. But when the daughter got caught up with my co-worker on her order, I had to use my relatively basic Spanish knowledge to ask for her order. I apologized to start since my Spanish was "muy mal", but she knew I was trying my best to talk to her, and I could tell she was appreciating it.