From what I've read, it seems good that I missed Clock Day as far as all the drama goes. My vacation ends tom and then I jump back into school and all that craziness, but I will have so much more time for portal protecting though. So what's new yall? I mean other than clock drama LoL.

At 8/17/08 01:07 AM, Pinoyguy75 wrote: From what I've read, it seems good that I missed Clock Day as far as all the drama goes. My vacation ends tom and then I jump back into school and all that craziness, but I will have so much more time for portal protecting though. So what's new yall? I mean other than clock drama LoL.

No i would not wanted to have missed, it for the world. Well in the WH/HT forums people saying that here is a glitch, in the system. 24 reviews got deleted and alot of people ,lost thier whistles points. Now there is a new thread. It was wasted too fours pages of random bitching on Rage thread.

At 8/16/08 08:16 PM, Joshiwa wrote:

At 8/14/08 07:53 AM, sonofkirk wrote:

But, Today, I lost my Silver whislte and I have now a Garbage whislte ... I will do my best to get a Normal whislte and higher.

Geez what did you flag to bring it down that far in one day? Well if you ever need help with flagging reviews I am always willing to help out.

I just get my Normal Whislte ... And yeah, I will PM you if I'm not sure about a review. Thanks a lot ; ).

At 8/16/08 08:28 PM, NEVR wrote: There's a load of kids kicking up a fuss in the Wi/Ht? forums about YET ANOTHER apparent whistle system glitch, or review mod corruption, or both. I've given up trying to talk sense into them, because predictably enough, they never want to hear that it's probably their own faults that they went down a few whistle levels.

From what I could gather the situation was something like this: an account was created that made reviews advertising an outside website, and someone posted the link in Rage's thread. There were over 20, so everybody thought "Goldmine!!!" and flagged like crazy.

However, people then dropped their whistle status dramatically, and then this glitch bullshit started. My theory is (assuming that these reviews caused the drop, not another set or a cleared submission) that they came to the attention of the review mod, who accidentally cleared them, causing the negative whistle points to be distributed. Realizing their mistake, they then deleted them.

The whole glitch BS stems from people who think that the reviews got deleted but they were penalized; any review mod will tell you this is impossible. I reckon it was an accidental clearing which caused this. Think about it, if they were cleared and left, people would notice that and know it wasn't a glitch. But the confusion stemmed from the fact that they WERE eventually deleted. That's my opinion anyway.

Because of this current high-concentration stupidity in the Wi/Ht forums, I'm taking refuge in C&C and General for the time being. Wait out the storm, so to speak. Hopefully when I emerge from my shelter tomorrow, the worst of the shitstorm will be over.

The whistle glitch bullshit annoys me a lot. I dropped from Bronze to deep Garbage twice, and I was annoyed, but knew it wasn't a glitch. It was human error, probably on my part, possibly on a mod's part. After all, we're human, therefore we err.

At 8/16/08 10:49 PM, Sir-Nuts wrote: I mean, why a glitch, and not themselves? Why the mods, and not themselves? Can't they accept the fact that they might have got it wrong? GRRRR!

People never want to hear that it's their own fault. It's always much easier to blame an uncontrollable external factor than take responsibility yourself -- especially if you have the maturity level of a spoilt 5 year-old (which is pretty accurate for most of those whistle-whoring kiddies).

Well, I was going to post there, but absentminded came and saved the day once again. I was going to say some things that were on his post, like if someone actually contacted Wade with a good argument.

He hasn't been called absent_minded in a LONG time, dude O_o

Why did you call him by that name? I didn't think you ever knew him when he was called that.

At 8/16/08 11:10 PM, Corky52 wrote: They just want it handed to them.

They just have terrible judgment and end up forming links between two completely unrelated factors, i.e., ~25 abusive review being deleted, and people going down in whistle level. The sad thing is that all these same people probably hang around Rage's thread flagging the same shit month after month. So what if some "goldmine" (as I believe they call it) that wasn't actually abuse has just come up for moderation? NO NO IT'S DEFINITELY CORRUPT MODS AND THE SYSTEM - WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE AND WORKING FINE SINCE 2003 - IS BROKEN AND CRAP.

/rantlol

At 8/17/08 05:25 AM, sonofkirk wrote: I just get my Normal Whislte ... And yeah, I will PM you if I'm not sure about a review. Thanks a lot ; ).

See, sonofkirk makes a good example. He was Silver, then went to Garbage yesterday, and he's already back up to normal.

Big kudos to you for not joining in all the pointless whining and just getting on with it, man. That's what I did when I was in a similar situation about a year ago, and it's the only way to move forward effectively.

At 8/17/08 06:26 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote: The whistle glitch bullshit annoys me a lot. I dropped from Bronze to deep Garbage twice, and I was annoyed, but knew it wasn't a glitch. It was human error, probably on my part, possibly on a mod's part. After all, we're human, therefore we err.

Yes, and I've seen mods making mistakes before. One review mod (don't know which, it was kept secret) messed up last year and handled a load of spam alt reviews wrong, with the consequence that people went down in whistle level. I personally went down from Gold to Normal.

Sure mods are people just like the rest of us. Of course they're no less prone to fucking up than us, but my point is that they have a pretty specific set of guidelines for shit like this, so all they have to do is follow that. I find it more likely that it's the regular user's shortcomings in this situation. It's very rare that a mod will genuinely mess up, and if they do it's normally announced that a [nameless] mod HAS done something wrong, slap on the wrist for them, case closed, stfu whiners.

Jesus I haven't had a good rant in SO long, LOL.

At 8/17/08 08:52 AM, NEVR wrote:

Sure mods are people just like the rest of us. Of course they're no less prone to fucking up than us, but my point is that they have a pretty specific set of guidelines for shit like this, so all they have to do is follow that. I find it more likely that it's the regular user's shortcomings in this situation. It's very rare that a mod will genuinely mess up, and if they do it's normally announced that a [nameless] mod HAS done something wrong, slap on the wrist for them, case closed, stfu whiners.

I couldn't agree more with you. It's annoying when it happens, but just stop bitching, pick yourself up, start flagging as per usual, and most importantly of all: GET. THE. FUCK. OVER. IT.

I saw the latest whistle system thread (I believe you and Corky52 were among the posters there) and I just HAD to have a little rant of my own. The stupidity abounding is unbelieveable.

The most ridiclulous suggestion I came across (and believe me, this was a closely-run contest) was to replace the review mods...WITH BOTS!!!

I mean we all know what great judgement computers have, right? I mean, how difficult could it be to add (a) new bot(s) to the team and program it/them to automatically eradicate abuse?

/sarcasm

I mean Corky and I are just two of the most recent users who've gone from Garbage to Deity in a short space of time. But we had to work our asses off for it. It took me about 400 consecutive correct flags and one-and-a-half months just to get my Normal whistle back. If they're afraid of a little work, or are too butthurt to bother doing anything but complain and make pathetic pleas to the admins, fuck 'em

Jesus I haven't had a good rant in SO long, LOL.

I know, it feels good, doesn't it? ;P

At 8/17/08 09:11 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote: I couldn't agree more with you. It's annoying when it happens, but just stop bitching, pick yourself up, start flagging as per usual, and most importantly of all: GET. THE. FUCK. OVER. IT.

I don't think it's really necessary to whine over a picture of a whistle on the internet. There are more important things in life, and if your interest is in helping out the site then the icon shouldn't matter to you anyway.

The most ridiclulous suggestion I came across (and believe me, this was a closely-run contest) was to replace the review mods...WITH BOTS!!!

Asinine.

If they're afraid of a little work, or are too butthurt to bother doing anything but complain and make pathetic pleas to the admins, fuck 'em

It just astounds me that something so insignificant has turned into a 3 page thread of whining and ignoring advice by more experienced users, only for mods to come and say the same thing. I said that the thread would accomplish nothing, and they didn't believe me until absent came and said EXACTLY the same thing, almost word for word.

Does a picture of a whistle matter that much though?

At 8/17/08 09:31 AM, NEVR wrote:

I don't think it's really necessary to whine over a picture of a whistle on the internet. There are more important things in life, and if your interest is in helping out the site then the icon shouldn't matter to you anyway.

I said that in my post, in that I questioned their motivation for flagging; my exact words were "take a look at yourselves, and ask yourself: why am I flagging abuse? Is it for a shiny whistle in my profile, or is to help improve Newgrounds?".

I was dismayed to see the only response to the question thus far was, and I quote, "Of course it's for the whistle." Sigh, why do I bother reasoning with imbeciles?

The most ridiclulous suggestion I came across (and believe me, this was a closely-run contest) was to replace the review mods...WITH BOTS!!!

Asinine.

Indeed, quite a fatuous proposition.

It just astounds me that something so insignificant has turned into a 3 page thread of whining and ignoring advice by more experienced users, only for mods to come and say the same thing. I said that the thread would accomplish nothing, and they didn't believe me until absent came and said EXACTLY the same thing, almost word for word.

The irrationality and idiocy of people never ceases to amaze me. You tell them something, they decide they don't like it, a mod tells them the same, and the bitching just continues.

Does a picture of a whistle matter that much though?

Really, it doesn't. As a marker of your dedication to helping the site, it's a decent reward. But as a status symbol, it is worthless.

And it's simple to differentiate between the two: people who would relate to the first premise wouldn't bitch about losing their whistle status.

I think this whistle talk nonsense has gone on long enough, just don't worry about it guys. Let the kiddies bitch and moan, they are not listening any way, let them mature some and realize the correct way of flagging things by trial and error. Obviously at the moment they are in error and just need to complain all their frustrations out until they gain a level on their whistle then they will say the whistle system is good.

At 8/17/08 09:31 AM, NEVR wrote:

Does a picture of a whistle matter that much though?

Of course it does silly.

At 8/17/08 12:54 PM, Joshiwa wrote: I think this whistle talk nonsense has gone on long enough

At 8/17/08 09:31 AM, NEVR wrote:

Does a picture of a whistle matter that much though?

Of course it does silly.

STOP CONTRADICTING YOURSELF I CAN'T KEEP UP FFS

Besides I haven't had a rant in a while so I need to get it out of my system.

At 8/17/08 05:25 AM, sonofkirk wrote:

I just get my Normal Whislte ... And yeah, I will PM you if I'm not sure about a review. Thanks a lot ; ).

See you marked the same thing as everyone else and as they sit there and bitch about it you went and got your whistle back to normal. Your repaired that awfully fast. Congrats.

At 8/17/08 03:50 PM, Corky52 wrote:

At 8/17/08 05:25 AM, sonofkirk wrote:

I just get my Normal Whislte ... And yeah, I will PM you if I'm not sure about a review. Thanks a lot ; ).

See you marked the same thing as everyone else and as they sit there and bitch about it you went and got your whistle back to normal. Your repaired that awfully fast. Congrats.

Thanks, dude. All these guy was complaining about the review mods ...

At 8/17/08 05:03 PM, Bryan wrote: I made you guys a poster <3

I here by declare you, a fucking donut. You've made the worst post & pic I've ever seen. My eyes now bleed. I hate you, leave please.

At 8/17/08 05:39 PM, Phantom wrote:

At 8/17/08 05:03 PM, Bryan wrote: I made you guys a poster <3

I here by declare you, a fucking donut. You've made the worst post & pic I've ever seen. My eyes now bleed. I hate you, leave please.

Ahh, don't be so harsh on him. It only sucks just a tiny bit, come back here when you have 2,000 b/p points and you might become a member.

At 8/17/08 07:16 PM, idiot-buster wrote:

Ahh, don't be so harsh on him. It only sucks just a tiny bit, come back here when you have 2,000 b/p points and you might become a member.

Damn man. Do you know who this person is? It's the user 61, but he just had a name change. He doesn't really have a place in here ever unless he drastically changes his ways quickly and by a lot.

Done all by reviews now got to start on this weeks list. Alot there how come 61 got a name change?. The reviewing are okay, im sure of it. As you say NEVR people moaned about it before ,so its not a glitch. Hope the links i posted are fine.

At 8/17/08 07:16 PM, idiot-buster wrote: come back here when you have 2,000 b/p points and you might become a member.

I seriously doubt that.

At 8/17/08 07:35 PM, NEVR wrote: I seriously doubt that.

Why don't you praise my flame? And by Ares, if I catch you on another 4 word post, I'll make sure it will be your last. No one liners. No exceptions.

Just find some fucking thing to say. Agreed?

Helwo, I'm back from my camping trip, as you can see. And let me tell you, it fucking sucked. No sleeping bag in an unusually cold August weekend, sleeping on a tarp and dirt. Breakfast lunch and dinner was PB & J sammiches, with a food challenged after lunch (I got stuck with the pickled pigs feet). And I had to listen to the most annoying fucking kids in the troop. Worst camp out I've ever been to in my 60-70 camping experiences in my life.

sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks. There was some concern about the drop to Garbage Whistle, but the quick recovery mitigated those worries and impressed a few members, to boot. Welcome aboard.

First thing you should do is register at the EGB forums so I can validate you and allow you full access.

At 8/17/08 08:12 PM, Bryan wrote: I've been posting better since that and I am not posting that many one liners anymore. Paragraphs. So, I'll probably come back here in a few months if I need to be Private.

You realize that you don't just get automatically accepted into the Barracks when you hit Private, right? You need the approval of the Recruitment Officer and/or the Chief Barracks Officer. Incidentally, as the Recruitment Officer and second in command of the Barracks, I'd just like to let you know that right now you wouldn't stand a chance of being admitted with your posting record. And even if you did improve since you spammed here (which you didn't), I don't just look at one page of posts when I make my decision.

If you do apply in a few months, you better have much, much better posting habits (and hope that I forget who you are by then).

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks. There was some concern about the drop to Garbage Whistle, but the quick recovery mitigated those worries and impressed a few members, to boot. Welcome aboard.

A question, i could not find the thread to discuss weather he would be aloud into the EGB or turned down. Could you or someone point this out to me. And congraz sonofkirk!

At 8/17/08 10:03 PM, idiot-buster wrote:

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks. There was some concern about the drop to Garbage Whistle, but the quick recovery mitigated those worries and impressed a few members, to boot. Welcome aboard.

A question, i could not find the thread to discuss weather he would be aloud into the EGB or turned down. Could you or someone point this out to me. And congraz sonofkirk!

The forums were temporarily down when I began discussion proceedings, so I told Barracks members to PM me with their opinions. Vote was mostly in favor. Future discussions will occur in the forums, although I always delete discussion threads before informing the recruit of the decision (so there are no tensions between the recruit and those who voted against).

At 8/17/08 10:25 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote:

The forums were temporarily down when I began discussion proceedings, so I told Barracks members to PM me with their opinions. Vote was mostly in favor. Future discussions will occur in the forums, although I always delete discussion threads before informing the recruit of the decision (so there are no tensions between the recruit and those who voted against).

Thanks for helping, somehow i must have missed that post you made. Oh well i'll contribute my opinion on the next requrement.

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks.

I believe that congratulations are in order, well done man.

There was some concern about the drop to Garbage Whistle, but the quick recovery mitigated those worries and impressed a few members, to boot.

Myself included, that was a hell of a turnabout. Silver to Garbage to Normal in no time at all. I'm sure you'll make an excellent addition to the EGB.

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks. There was some concern about the drop to Garbage Whistle, but the quick recovery mitigated those worries and impressed a few members, to boot. Welcome aboard.

Nice to hear that, thanks for accepting me, guys. I hope I will be a good member ; ).

First thing you should do is register at the EGB forums so I can validate you and allow you full access.

Done, sir.

At 8/18/08 05:39 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote:

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks.

I believe that congratulations are in order, well done man.

Thank you man, your piece of advice helped me a lot.

Myself included, that was a hell of a turnabout. Silver to Garbage to Normal in no time at all. I'm sure you'll make an excellent addition to the EGB.

I hope, lol. I'm really looking forward to be helpful.

At 8/15/08 12:51 PM, Sir-Nuts wrote: But I won't give up on my major goal this year: one Blam point! And I can see some fellows are with me. Good, let's not give up, sir!

We need some co-ordination here and someone to pick the flash that we can all hit hard with the 0s.

Sadly, that's really against the rules, but it's only what's being done by the noobs who submit the spam in the first place.

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks. There was some concern about the drop to Garbage Whistle, but the quick recovery mitigated those worries and impressed a few members, to boot. Welcome aboard.

Congrats. I was one of the people impressed with the speedy recovery from Garbage, especially considering most people who've gone down to Garbage these days just sit around complaining and doing nothing to improve their situation.

If you do apply in a few months, you better have much, much better posting habits (and hope that I forget who you are by then).

LOL, like I said, I seriously doubt that will happen. He *claims* he's improved his posting, but he really hasn't. I still see him making 'yeah noob' posts and shit like that in the Wi/Ht forums, so if that's his idea of a good post, then his chances aren't just slim, but anorexic.

At 8/18/08 08:26 AM, NEVR wrote:

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote:

Congrats. I was one of the people impressed with the speedy recovery from Garbage, especially considering most people who've gone down to Garbage these days just sit around complaining and doing nothing to improve their situation

Thanks, man. Now I have a bronze whislte ; ). I don't understand what happened these days ... that was very weird.

Before anything else, 2,000th post! Yeah, my 1,000th post was on the abusive stuff thread, a place that actually helped me a lot. So my 2,000th post should be on another place that helped me a lot, the Barracks! Thanks guys!
____________________________________

First thing I'd like to say: Wade actually paid attention to the whistles whores. But I saw in someone's sig saying something like "Don't flag submissions under judgement". THAT"S NOT TRUE, he's making up stuff. Read Wade's comment on that user page and take your conclusions about it.

Also, NEVR, I don't know why I called absent "absentminded". I saw in some of his older posts some people quoting him, and thought it would be cool to remember such. I think -absentminded- looked better than just absent. But meh, tastes are different.

At 8/17/08 09:11 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote: The most ridiclulous suggestion I came across (and believe me, this was a closely-run contest) was to replace the review mods...WITH BOTS!!!

Conclusion: the Wi/Ht is back to it's shitty days (sort of). Some famous faces were around, like NEVR, phantomlassuk, BlueHippo, absent(minded), aldlv... I was there too, but it's not that good to remember the L7C invasion on the Wi/Ht.

At 8/17/08 05:03 PM, Bryan wrote: I made you guys a poster <3

Awful, next.

At 8/17/08 09:15 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: sonofkirk is allowed into the Barracks. There was some concern about the drop to Garbage Whistle, but the quick recovery mitigated those worries and impressed a few members, to boot. Welcome aboard.

Welcome! At least you weren't on the bitching whistle team, you actually got out there and made something GOOD happen. Nice one.

At 8/18/08 07:49 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 8/15/08 12:51 PM, Sir-Nuts wrote: But I won't give up on my major goal this year: one Blam point! And I can see some fellows are with me. Good, let's not give up, sir!

We need some co-ordination here and someone to pick the flash that we can all hit hard with the 0s.

I'd say VOTE ZERO ON EVERYTHING LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

But that wouldn't work.

Sadly, that's really against the rules, but it's only what's being done by the noobs who submit the spam in the first place.

I heard some people that got very few Blams on Clock Day, but I don't know how. I mean, I gave lots of zeros and no Blams!

Over and out.

*Salutes*

At 8/18/08 01:48 PM, Sir-Nuts wrote:

I heard some people that got very few Blams on Clock Day, but I don't know how. I mean, I gave lots of zeros and no Blams!

I'm sure that the blams that I got were movies that were voted on before midnight and then carried over to the next day, but I'm not completely sure because I didn't pay close attention.