At 8/16/07 02:01 PM, EagleRock wrote:

At 8/16/07 01:45 PM, Coop83 wrote: And most of this crap is getting past judgement as well. My blam button isn't inactive, but it's certainly not very effective right now :(

If you take a look at the scores as time goes on, they are steadily decreasing. This is indicating that what we are doing is working, and that it is only a matter of time at this point before we crack the "spell" of Clock Day.

It's very soul destroying to see that I've only gotten a whole 3 saves over the past 3 days and that they all came yesterday!

At 8/16/07 02:28 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Using alts to bypass 2-per-day submission limit.

There's got to be some way of getting around this loophole... *consults law books*

Well, the problem is that a lot of people assume that they're sure to pass, and thus vote for the protect point. We're not powerful enough to override that...not yet, anyway...but we're a start.

That tide will turn, we are making some leaway into the numbers, that's for sure

And if Wade deletes them, we'll have made a big difference.

Indeed we shall! Though I will be somewhat dissapointed for not getting Blam points for them :(

At 8/16/07 10:33 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote:

At 8/16/07 09:51 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Thats unbelievable !!! It's almost like if Clock Day was lasting for 2 days !!!
Is it like that every year ???

It was bad last year, yeah, but this year it was a whole new level of shit.

When there were only 90 entries deleted on Clock Day, I think that for Clock Day, Tom needs to change the parameters , so that any movies with scores of say 2.50 or below are deleted. This will still mean that an alarmingly low amount of submissions are deleted, but the crap that people willing to vote sensibly on that is at that sort of score is most certainly worthy of deletion.

I dread what will happen next year if something isn't changed.

Indeed.

At 8/17/07 06:58 AM, Sentio wrote: I'll be around, but I'm having far too much fun going out with mates and getting drunk, plus my addiction to this site is well and truly gone now that I have better things to do...

Who'd have thought it? Blighty = cure for Newgrounds...

Hey I haven't been on NG regularly for a while and probly became an inactive user so I was wondering if I could re-join the Elite Guard?

At 8/17/07 12:35 PM, Coop83 wrote:

I think that for Clock Day, Tom needs to change the parameters , so that any movies with scores of say 2.50 or below are deleted. This will still mean that an alarmingly low amount of submissions are deleted, but the crap that people willing to vote sensibly on that is at that sort of score is most certainly worthy of deletion.

That's actually a really good idea. I was thinking of just having every submission on that date be given a -2 after it passes, so if it passes with a 3.8 it would be lowered to 1.8. The flaw with that though is the really good submissions would be cheated out of 2 points. =/

But yeah, raising the passing threshold for clock day is definately something to be considered to stop the obvious spammy - less then 10kb type submissions.

---
Unrelated: Got a new job today. ^_^

Just wanted to say thank you guys for your work. I felt the same way as all of you, and it just drove me nuts. It's just nice to know there is some kind of force out there doing what you guys do.

At 8/17/07 12:35 PM, Coop83 wrote:
When there were only 90 entries deleted on Clock Day, I think that for Clock Day, Tom needs to change the parameters , so that any movies with scores of say 2.50 or below are deleted. This will still mean that an alarmingly low amount of submissions are deleted, but the crap that people willing to vote sensibly on that is at that sort of score is most certainly worthy of deletion.

I dread what will happen next year if something isn't changed.

Indeed.

That will do no good at all because even if he did do that do you know what stuff passes with on clock day? 3.50 or higher and in this years case 4.09 and more. So even if tom did change the passing point it would have very little effect. I think that Tom should just cancel clock day altogether that way the madness would stop and if the portal was spammed on the old clock day people would blam the stuff that shouldn't pass instead of saving it.

At 8/17/07 03:13 PM, LittleWashu wrote:

So even if tom did change the passing point it would have very little effect. I think that Tom should just cancel clock day altogether

I think canceling it would be a little too far, what about the good quality Clock day submissions? It's unfair to punish those who had nothing to do with the spam attack. Idealy we could get someone to look through all the flash over the next month and delete the appropriate flash and give out proper punishment to the offenders.
e-v

Why cancel Clock Day, it was the total inspiration for my official Clock Day movie! Sure, most submissions are spam, but there are some worthwhile movies too! Keep that in mind before you hate on Clock Day like that! Before anyone asks, I had a little too much coffee today and I'm very VERY hyper today since band practice ended. The concert is in a few months, wish me luck in advance!

At 8/17/07 04:14 PM, ever-vigilant wrote:

At 8/17/07 03:13 PM, LittleWashu wrote:

So even if tom did change the passing point it would have very little effect. I think that Tom should just cancel clock day altogether

I think canceling it would be a little too far, what about the good quality Clock day submissions? It's unfair to punish those who had nothing to do with the spam attack. Idealy we could get someone to look through all the flash over the next month and delete the appropriate flash and give out proper punishment to the offenders.
e-v

While this is true they could just sumbit it on another day as well instead since clock day has become nothing more then a spam fest and a stat whore's dream due to people uploading "crap" that they know will pass because of people who want Protect points yet then these same people complain about "how much Crap passes judgement"

As for your Idea for someone looking through all that flash bad Idea. Do you know how much stuff was submitted on that day? The Admins have their hand full keeping the site going for us the users plus they already have enough bad flash to go to through as it is that did get marked. You honestly want them to go through everything that came in on clock day every single year? This would cause problems for the NG staff since if this was to happen an uproar may happen and many people will be afraid to submit flash in fear of it getting deleted.

But if you cancelled clock day sure you will have a few upset people but their wouldn't be a free protect point day either and stuff would get blammed as it should. But this all started when clock day first came as the clocks would vote 5 to their stuff and it would pass evenually people just went with the flow to get points. evenually when 2005 came crap overflowed the portal and due to the attitude
"nothing can be blammed on clock day" everyone vote 5 to everything for the points. So this is why I think clock dy should become like the old layout removed and never be brought back.

Is it me or all the flashs are still going throught the portal ???

I didnt manage do get more than 6 blams since Clock Day for a super total of

320 Saves
6 Blams

Anyway, will there be any other chapters coming soon fo The Barracks Under Fire?

At 8/17/07 06:12 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is it me or all the flashs are still going throught the portal ???

I didnt manage do get more than 6 blams since Clock Day for a super total of

320 Saves
6 Blams

Anyway, will there be any other chapters coming soon fo The Barracks Under Fire?

ever since they change the passing points people have been making better flash an the bad stuff get blammed quickly so you would as a result get more protect points it has been like this for a while nothing really knew about that. But I can understand your concern due to the madness of clock day.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/39 5572

I am 100% positive this is stolen. I remember reviewing the original not too long ago, but unfortunately, we cannot yet view our reviews, so I'm kind of lost with looking. So if anyone just happens to stumble upon this or remembers it, please provide a link so we can get this off.

Hey all,

In case you all haven't noticed, there are finally some new secrets on NG. Check out the secrets section in your profile and check em' out.

*Salutes*

Sheesh, I've seen a lot of bad flashes pass on the past Clock Days. But this was just ridiculous. More spam than any actual flashes. And some of those were just being resubmitted by countless numbers of alts. A lot of people decided to use the day as an opportunity to have their flashes pass.

How disappointing.

At 8/17/07 10:33 PM, Sterockicy wrote: Check out the secrets section in your profile and check em' out.

Interesting. I've wondered if I would see secret #4 again after it got removed.

At 8/18/07 01:09 AM, X-Naut wrote:

Interesting. I've wondered if I would see secret #4 again after it got removed.

Hmm I wonder if I have all of them or if they havent update the points till next level thingo. I have 6 of them so far so I am not sure. Obviously you cant give too much away but do you reckon there are any more secrets after 6?

At 8/17/07 10:33 PM, Sterockicy wrote: In case you all haven't noticed, there are finally some new secrets on NG. Check out the secrets section in your profile and check em' out.

the secrets, which are not to be talked about in public forums, are...Great. However I get the feeling that #7 will remain locked for a long time...

At 8/18/07 05:11 AM, Phantom wrote:

the secrets, which are not to be talked about in public forums, are...Great. However I get the feeling that #7 will remain locked for a long time...

I know I shouldnt have brought up the subject and I normally wouldnt but you know, not many people know about them. Plus I didnt give anything away. Its a shame there arent any secrets that actually require time to get. They are too easy to get.

Pimp is the only one who is close to seeing those hot pics, im sure tom is starting to get a little scared.

At 8/18/07 06:22 AM, Sterockicy wrote: Pimp is the only one who is close to seeing those hot pics, im sure tom is starting to get a little scared.

Perhaps he is shy about his utilities?

Anyway, I'm rather sickened of how Clock Day as went. Sure, it didn't help make the day pleasant when I threw up about an hour after Clock Day started, but still, with all the things that alts spammers like Fr0ks submitted, and the fact that there were little to no whistled Flashes definatly pisses me off. However, there is a silver lining to everything, and that is of course the B/P points. After I realized what Fr0ks and cousin and all the other rule breakers were doing, I voted 0 and whistle, but no justice availed.

Hopefully we can put a stop to the nonsense soon. I'm also starting to B/P more again. I really want to hit Elite Guard Supreme Commander now. Just to do and say I have done it.

Back to the Portal!

At 8/17/07 01:56 PM, Major-punk wrote:

At 8/17/07 12:35 PM, Coop83 wrote:

I think that for Clock Day, Tom needs to change the parameters , so that any movies with scores of say 2.50 or below are deleted. This will still mean that an alarmingly low amount of submissions are deleted, but the crap that people willing to vote sensibly on that is at that sort of score is most certainly worthy of deletion.

That's actually a really good idea. I was thinking of just having every submission on that date be given a -2 after it passes, so if it passes with a 3.8 it would be lowered to 1.8. The flaw with that though is the really good submissions would be cheated out of 2 points. =/

I'm not saying give every flash a -2 penalty, but since Clock Day is really an excuse to mass-vote shit through the portal, we need to move the goalposts somehow and get some sort of way to stop the spammy crap coming through the portal. I had some realy trouble trying to find the good animations on Clock Day itself, as they were all passing judgement with 4+ scores.

But yeah, raising the passing threshold for clock day is definately something to be considered to stop the obvious spammy - less then 10kb type submissions.

Thanks for your support

Unrelated: Got a new job today. ^_^

Good for you, what are you doing, may I ask?

At 8/17/07 03:13 PM, LittleWashu wrote: That will do no good at all because even if he did do that do you know what stuff passes with on clock day? 3.50 or higher and in this years case 4.09 and more. So even if tom did change the passing point it would have very little effect.

Well, that's your opinion. There were the occasional flash movie which passed judgement with a non green or blue score. We were making steps towards it and if people believed that flash were going to get blammed, they would react and blam normally. They only 5 everything, because they have heard about the "guaranteed Save points"

I think that Tom should just cancel clock day altogether that way the madness would stop and if the portal was spammed on the old clock day people would blam the stuff that shouldn't pass instead of saving it.

Newsflash for LittleWashu: Tom Never created Clock Day, the Clock Crew did. The only way Tom can cancel Clock Day is to pull the plug on Newgrounds for a day. You have more chance of seeing Satan crawl out from hell and joining in the latest production of Swan Lake as the leading lady.

Clock Day is a celebration, I don't want people to stop celebrating. I just want people to submit quality flash that they've put effort into to actually earn the save point. I could submit a piece of shit like this and call it a flash movie on Clock Day and have it pass, but I don't out of principle and respect for Newgrounds.

At 8/18/07 06:22 AM, Sterockicy wrote: Pimp is the only one who is close to seeing those hot pics, im sure tom is starting to get a little scared.

Everyone knows it'll really be Wade :P

I tend to agree a bit with littlewashu, I think until the problems caused this clock day such as the mass protecting and unfair voting as well as all the spam can be removed then clock day should be suspended until further notice

At 8/17/07 12:35 PM, Coop83 wrote:

Who'd have thought it? Blighty = cure for Newgrounds...

I know, a real turn up for the books there. A badly needed one though, I was beginning to waste my life on here- a quick 15 minute visit each day is far healthier.

And it isn't so much Blighty, just friends + alcohol

At 8/18/07 06:22 AM, Sterockicy wrote:

Pimp is the only one who is close to seeing those hot pics, im sure tom is starting to get a little scared.

The boundary goes up as Pimp does, that has always been the way. Nobody will ever see those pics :(. I'm kind of sad that there aren't more secrets, once again I have nothing more to work towards in that respect, but the new ones are great.

*salutes*

getting on with that story now Phantom, please don't kill me... *cowers*

At 8/19/07 03:16 AM, Phantom wrote: I tend to agree a bit with littlewashu, I think until the problems caused this clock day such as the mass protecting and unfair voting as well as all the spam can be removed then clock day should be suspended until further notice

Well, I don't know how it'd be "canceled" per se, since it's a day that started on its own by the clocks who would flood the portal with clock movies and people would follow suit. Finally Tom recognized it as an official NG Holliday.

What Tom COULD do it just not recognize the day anymore as, obviously, very little good even comes of it anymore. It would cut down on some of the crap for sure the first year. Over the next 2-3 years it'd probably be a WHOLE lot better.

But, then again, maybe Tom doesn't even care about the flood of shit on that day. Or maybe he does, but is being politically correct by avoiding the issue.

In any case, it'd be nice if they cleared up a few things and implaced a few more portal rules about Flash submissions.

At 8/19/07 11:04 AM, RSQViper wrote: In any case, it'd be nice if they cleared up a few things and implaced a few more portal rules about Flash submissions.

It would, that would help getting a lot of stuff that use technicalities to avoid being flagged but should still be whistled. However, if he DID NOT want all that crap coming into the Portal on Clock Day, if he WAS against it, he would have said something on the Forums to inform us all.

It seems that aside from all the Blam/Protect points that we obtained on Clock Day, nobody was satisfied with the outcome. We have made our discussion about it and should probably start to end the conversation as Clock Day has been over for a while now. We have made our points, and should probably leave it at that.

Anyway, the Portal is looking rather sluggish this morning, but I'm still getting some decent points. I should probably get a rank up for the first time in a while in the next few days. I'm aiming for EGSC before the end of next Summer.

At 8/19/07 03:16 AM, Phantom wrote: I tend to agree a bit with littlewashu, I think until the problems caused this clock day such as the mass protecting and unfair voting as well as all the spam can be removed then clock day should be suspended until further notice

I don't think you possibly can suspend Clock Day. It's just not feasable for any of the Newgrounds staff to even contemplate

At 8/19/07 06:12 AM, Sentio wrote: I know, a real turn up for the books there. A badly needed one though, I was beginning to waste my life on here- a quick 15 minute visit each day is far healthier.

I've been living a variant of that life for about 3 years now :) It's not done me any harm :P

And it isn't so much Blighty, just friends + alcohol

Also good.

At 8/19/07 11:04 AM, RSQViper wrote: Well, I don't know how it'd be "canceled" per se, since it's a day that started on its own by the clocks who would flood the portal with clock movies and people would follow suit. Finally Tom recognized it as an official NG Holliday.

It's as much a part of NG as Assassin or Club a Seal. Even trying to cancel it would damage Newgrounds

What Tom COULD do it just not recognize the day anymore as, obviously, very little good even comes of it anymore. It would cut down on some of the crap for sure the first year. Over the next 2-3 years it'd probably be a WHOLE lot better.

I think that Tom's attempts to get people to submit flash, by offering cash prizes actually helps the situation, by encouraging people to put effort into their flash, so that they can win prizes. That's the best endorsement Clock Day can have is for the artists who make an effort to be rewarded and inspire those willing to practise, rather than encourage the spamathon.

Raising the threshold for Blams on that day would help. We are here to try and stop the spam and I don't think there was one member of the Barracks, myself included, who voted on every single submission as they would normally do.

At 8/19/07 11:58 AM, PossiblePancakes wrote: It seems that aside from all the Blam/Protect points that we obtained on Clock Day, nobody was satisfied with the outcome. We have made our discussion about it and should probably start to end the conversation as Clock Day has been over for a while now. We have made our points, and should probably leave it at that.

I agree. We've bandied about with potential solutions and have decided that nobody voted 100% true to themselves. If they believe they did and claimed anything over 200 saves on Clock Day, they really shouldn't be a member of the Barracks IMO.

By the way, your signature had me thinking you'd passed me for a moment :P

Hey everybody! Well clock day was pretty decent for me. I didnt get near the amount of points i wanted but i managed to get like 140 b/p points out of it. But some of the movies where good while others where just plain spam as always. But i guess that is the case on most of the major days on here. I guess the next one we have coming up is Madness Day right?

At 8/19/07 05:04 PM, Coop83 wrote: I don't think you possibly can suspend Clock Day. It's just not feasable for any of the Newgrounds staff to even contemplate

Well they could at least ignore it and not recognize it as a NG holiday or just for a day to block users from submitting flash entries. It may be rough but so is the situation and something must be done.

Also, HAHAHAHAHA, Justice

Sorry it's so short, I just had to get that out.

At 8/20/07 09:33 AM, Phantom wrote: Also, HAHAHAHAHA, Justice

Sorry it's so short, I just had to get that out.

That is not short, it's actually big news. If we can get rid of the other shits that come through the portal, then we are kewl. :)

Sorry for the double post but something is telling me that this flash is stolen. :/
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/39 6095

At 8/20/07 09:45 AM, Seamonky wrote: Sorry for the double post but something is telling me that this flash is stolen. :/
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/39 6095

Check the website his e-mail comes from. Looks legit.

Sigh...

Fr0ks made something 1/2 way decent, then swapped the file.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/39 6096

Someone want to inform Wade? It WAS a music video. Well... kinda.