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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 08:18:26


Sweet non-existant Jesus! I have 1870 b/p today. I'm way ahead of schedule. If today is just an average day on the portal, I should reach 1900 tonight. Since Pico Day is less than a week away now, I should be slightly over my goal by then.

Say what you will about my methods, but I understand the game and I play it well. It's the fucking internet, kids. You can check your samurai honor shit at the door. I'm not impressed with it in reality, either. I'm here to boost my voting power just like the rest of you except I'm willing to come out and say it. I'm not trying to cause trouble here, but I've just been attacked by a few people so I suppose I'm entitled. It's the internet, guys. Calm down. It was only meant for porn and communication. Don't get all bent out of shape about it.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 08:36:49


At 4/24/07 08:18 AM, Snerd wrote: Say what you will about my methods, but I understand the game and I play it well. It's the fucking internet, kids. You can check your samurai honor shit at the door. I'm not impressed with it in reality, either. I'm here to boost my voting power just like the rest of you except I'm willing to come out and say it. I'm not trying to cause trouble here, but I've just been attacked by a few people so I suppose I'm entitled. It's the internet, guys. Calm down. It was only meant for porn and communication. Don't get all bent out of shape about it.

Ok, well I think you really need to check what you are saying.

When last I looked, we as members of the Barracks declared that we had a duty to uphold the methods of actually looking at a flash for its own merits before we voted on it, rather than seeing if it would be mass voted through, then casting a 2, just to get a protection point.

Personally, I think if you're not going to change your attitude, then you only qualify as eligable for membership of the Barracks due to the fact that you've got over 1,500 B/P.

With an atitude like that, I'd say you're not worthy of being a member here.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 10:52:56


I just know that I can't be the only person to do this. I'm probably the only one to admit it, but I can't be the only one to do this. And besides, none of you really know for a fact that I don't like these spammy flashes. I may love them for all you know and I might just be voting fairly. You can't actually prove I'm not. Maybe I just have the worst taste in flash animation. And my whole "attitude" is displayed only because I hate this self-righteous bullshit that has just been tossed my way. "He's a stat whore and I'm angry because he has a few more points than I do and all the girls at school hate me even though mommy says I'm good-looking." That type of shit doesn't fly with me. Anyway, I've found what works best for me. I'm certainly not trying to change the way someone else votes. Slash and I were talking about this the other night: Those "shitty" flashes actually take some effort. I made a game with some friends recently and it took forever to get everything right. We even joked about how complex it was for a purposefully shitty game. Maybe those "shitty" flashes deserve to get passed sometimes. Putting a game together is rather hard. If I see Pong all day, I'll start voting 0 just because I'm tired of seeing it, but if someone puts it up, I'll probably pass it.

POINT (for those of you that don't care to read the long stuff above):
I've found what works best for me. I'm not trying to change the way anyone else votes. You can express that you don't approve of my practices without being self-righteous and/or hateful.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 11:40:05


At 4/24/07 10:52 AM, Snerd wrote: I just know that I can't be the only person to do this. I'm probably the only one to admit it, but I can't be the only one to do this. And besides, none of you really know for a fact that I don't like these spammy flashes. I may love them for all you know and I might just be voting fairly. You can't actually prove I'm not.

Well, since you practically admitted you vote 2 on them to get the point, I'm willing to present this ad evidence, your honour.

Maybe I just have the worst taste in flash animation.

Maybe so

And my whole "attitude" is displayed only because I hate this self-righteous bullshit that has just been tossed my way. "He's a stat whore and I'm angry because he has a few more points than I do and all the girls at school hate me even though mommy says I'm good-looking."

1. I'm a bigger stat whore than you - see my stats.

2. I have many more points than you

3. I don't give a shit about the girls at school, my girlfriend and I don't go to school any more.

That type of shit doesn't fly with me. Anyway, I've found what works best for me. I'm certainly not trying to change the way someone else votes. Slash and I were talking about this the other night: Those "shitty" flashes actually take some effort.

I know they take effort, but once it's been made, it can be resubmitted quite often.

I made a game with some friends recently and it took forever to get everything right. We even joked about how complex it was for a purposefully shitty game. Maybe those "shitty" flashes deserve to get passed sometimes. Putting a game together is rather hard. If I see Pong all day, I'll start voting 0 just because I'm tired of seeing it, but if someone puts it up, I'll probably pass it.

So on that point, why do you have any Blams?

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 12:03:19


Coop has just replied to this, but to reiterate his points...

At 4/24/07 10:52 AM, Snerd wrote: I just know that I can't be the only person to do this. I'm probably the only one to admit it, but I can't be the only one to do this.

You are most certainly right, there are plenty of people who do just what you do. The difference is they are not in the EGB. One of our key roles on this site is to promote voting fairly, and to have a member who doesn't do that reflects badly upon us. We can't control how people vote, that is obvious, and you can do what you want, but you can't come in here and say you are voting for stats.

And besides, none of you really know for a fact that I don't like these spammy flashes. I may love them for all you know and I might just be voting fairly. You can't actually prove I'm not.

Like I said, we can't control how you vote, we can just try and influence you into becoming a better member. Every single post and review I write is supposed to set an example for other users of how it can be done well, and the same goes for voting.

Maybe I just have the worst taste in flash animation. And my whole "attitude" is displayed only because I hate this self-righteous bullshit that has just been tossed my way. "He's a stat whore and I'm angry because he has a few more points than I do and all the girls at school hate me even though mommy says I'm good-looking."

Attacks towards peoples personal lives are never tolerated here, so watch what you are saying. As it is almost everyone here has more points than you, and what they do with their social lives is pretty irrelevant. Maybe we do come across as self righteous, but that is the whole damn point- it is what you signed up for joining here.

That type of shit doesn't fly with me. Anyway, I've found what works best for me. I'm certainly not trying to change the way someone else votes. Slash and I were talking about this the other night: Those "shitty" flashes actually take some effort. I made a game with some friends recently and it took forever to get everything right. We even joked about how complex it was for a purposefully shitty game.

Of course they take effort, and there is no way I could produce something like that. But there has to be a level of quality control on NG to keep the portal running smoothly. Maybe some bad submissions do take a lot of effort, that doesn't make tham good enough to pass. And the vast majority of spam submissions take no effort at all, as they are just parts of previous flash work cobbled together.

Maybe those "shitty" flashes deserve to get passed sometimes. Putting a game together is rather hard. If I see Pong all day, I'll start voting 0 just because I'm tired of seeing it, but if someone puts it up, I'll probably pass it.

Sometimes they do deserve to pass, if someone has put a lot of effort in and improved from a past effort for example. But we are talking about the blatant spam that gets through, not poor submissions that have effort put in. Pong is one example of something I will vote to blam 9 times out of 10, simply because they are taking it straight off a tutorial most of the time. If there is nothing that sets it apart from the 100s of previous entries it doesn't deserve to get through. Originality is as important as anything else in my opinion.

POINT (for those of you that don't care to read the long stuff above):
I've found what works best for me. I'm not trying to change the way anyone else votes. You can express that you don't approve of my practices without being self-righteous and/or hateful.

Well I seriously suggest you think about leaving. That isn't what the EGB is about, and just because you have the required rank doesn't automatically qualify you for membership. As it is your posting habits (far too many spammy one liners) have you on thin ice, so either shape up or leave.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 12:05:00


At 4/24/07 10:52 AM, Snerd wrote: POINT (for those of you that don't care to read the long stuff above):
I've found what works best for me. I'm not trying to change the way anyone else votes. You can express that you don't approve of my practices without being self-righteous and/or hateful.

Its nice to see someone being so honest.

At 4/24/07 04:52 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote:
grumbles and goes back to B/P and Pokemon fanfiction:

lol. Hows the first secret episode coming along then??

anyway, today was really weird. The biggest (most people would also say best) newspaper in the city where i live delivered a strange and uncalled for attack on the girls at my school today. It said that all the girls turned our school uniform into a slutty outfit and that it was encouraging old men to come past our school at certain times of day to see the girls. It even went as far as to say that when people from outside Northern Ireland visit this part of Belfast, they dont remember the beautiful park across the road, or the new fantastically designed buildings, but the slutty uniform from our school. It was kinda weird. this in turn caused all teachers to be ultra strict about how uniform was worn today and sparked the idea that girls may now have to wear skirts that go down to their ankles. dunno why i am telling you this, i just thought i'd share it with you all.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 12:39:45


At 4/24/07 11:40 AM, Coop83 wrote:
Well, since you practically admitted you vote 2 on them to get the point, I'm willing to present this ad evidence, your honour.

Practically admitting and admitting are two different things. "If I did it" is OJ practically admitting he killed his wife, but he never really admitted it. If this were a trial, that'd be circumstantial evidence.

1. I'm a bigger stat whore than you - see my stats.

2. I have many more points than you

3. I don't give a shit about the girls at school, my girlfriend and I don't go to school any more.

None of that stuff was directed at you, anyway.

So on that point, why do you have any Blams?

Having just about as many blam points as protection points ought to be enough evidence that I don't just 5 everything that swings a dick in the portal.

Really, my whole issue with this isn't the fact that we obviously disagree. I like that we disagree. It's the marketplace of ideas. To me, this is a good thing. It can spark debate and make people look at their own personal stance more clearly. I never really took an oath or anything and I didn't think it was much of a big deal, the way I voted, because look at some of my earlier posts here. Your basic criteria for "allowing" someone in, to my knowledge no one here is a mod or admin, is 1500 b/p then you do your little "background check". I had over 1500 when I joined and my posts generally have substance. Although some may think that some posts are spammy, I have just as much freedom of speech as you do and if I can convey my thoughts in a short statement, I will. If anyone gets anything from what I've been saying let it be this:

You can disagree with someone, just do it in a civilized way. You don't have to be some cookie cutter NG user. You may vote exactly as you like. You are a free person with as many rights as your own country bestows upon you and the people that "run" this place, this topic, have no actual power over you. You can say what you want within reason. However, the consequence of free speech is criticism. Whatever you say must stand the scrutiny of the other users. SO! If you do say something, be prepared to back it up. I'm not going to discuss this matter further. In fact, I'll be retrieving my head from the pike you "leaders" have thrown it onto.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 13:00:01


At 4/24/07 12:03 PM, Sentio wrote: Coop has just replied to this, but to reiterate his points...

Thanks for the backup.

At 4/24/07 12:39 PM, Snerd wrote: Practically admitting and admitting are two different things. "If I did it" is OJ practically admitting he killed his wife, but he never really admitted it. If this were a trial, that'd be circumstantial evidence.

Since we're not actually in a courtroom, I'm not willing to actually trawl through the posts you've made and find out if you actually did or didn't say it.

None of that stuff was directed at you, anyway.

Well, you've indicated you are able to work the "Reply with Quote" button. If they weren't directed at me, please quote the person you are directing them at, or at least spell their name out. Since you put that post right after one of mine, I viewed it as a poorly thought out attack on me, which is an unwise move.

Really, my whole issue with this isn't the fact that we obviously disagree. I like that we disagree. It's the marketplace of ideas. To me, this is a good thing. It can spark debate and make people look at their own personal stance more clearly.

I'm glad we do as well, as it provokes our discussion and highlights mistakes made by all members at one point or another.

I never really took an oath or anything and I didn't think it was much of a big deal, the way I voted, because look at some of my earlier posts here. Your basic criteria for "allowing" someone in, to my knowledge no one here is a mod or admin, is 1500 b/p then you do your little "background check".

While there may be no moderators actually listed as members of the club, we do know some of the more effective moderators who can, if needed, remove non-members and former members by force if necessary.

I had over 1500 when I joined and my posts generally have substance. Although some may think that some posts are spammy, I have just as much freedom of speech as you do and if I can convey my thoughts in a short statement, I will. If anyone gets anything from what I've been saying let it be this:

Yeah, but you've just taken quite a while to tell us all of this. Please can you learn how to make paragraphs, as it makes my eyes hurt to read on huge block of text. That and it makes it easier to quote.

You can disagree with someone, just do it in a civilized way. You don't have to be some cookie cutter NG user. You may vote exactly as you like. You are a free person with as many rights as your own country bestows upon you and the people that "run" this place, this topic, have no actual power over you.

While you may vote exactly as you like, I'd still reccomend that you consider your position as a member of the Barracks, as your methods are somewhat unorthadox, when compared to regular members.

You can say what you want within reason. However, the consequence of free speech is criticism. Whatever you say must stand the scrutiny of the other users. SO!

I believe my posts here have the support of other members.

If you do say something, be prepared to back it up. I'm not going to discuss this matter further. In fact, I'll be retrieving my head from the pike you "leaders" have thrown it onto.

I never threw your head onto a pike. That method can be time consuming. it would be better to have an accomplice hold the head, while I stab the head of the pike into the neck region.

However, joking aside, I merely asked you to consider your own position.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 14:31:17


At 4/24/07 03:17 AM, Sterockicy wrote: Yeh, Its always around this time of day that it gets really slow in the portal i've noticed. I really hope I can get to 10,000 b/p points by tommorow! Its ANZAC day tommorow so I have the day off. The question is now, Will I be able to get on the computer much?

Well hopefully we will be able to congratulate you then about your B/P accomplishment, I recently passed 51 K and I'm on my slow way to 60 K marking the point where even the great gfox didn't care for B/P anymore. But I'll probably never quit fully, like ramagi or Denvish, with a couple points a week just because we can.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 15:05:35


Well now i seem like a really small fry. Cause Phantom is talking about pssing 51k points when i only just got my first 1k of points. But i am steadly working to improve up my stats. Oh and i am going at a pretty quick pase b/p wise and i am also not that far off of lvl 10.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 15:19:49


At 4/24/07 03:05 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well now i seem like a really small fry. Cause Phantom is talking about pssing 51k points when i only just got my first 1k of points. But i am steadly working to improve up my stats. Oh and i am going at a pretty quick pase b/p wise and i am also not that far off of lvl 10.

Some of us will always be under the others unless they stop getting points, but even there it will be a while before we pass them with the way the portal has been going recently. Also, let me be the first to say congrats on getting to level 10, only 3 more days left for you to get there now!


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 15:25:16


At 4/24/07 03:05 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well now i seem like a really small fry. Cause Phantom is talking about pssing 51k points when i only just got my first 1k of points. But i am steadly working to improve up my stats. Oh and i am going at a pretty quick pase b/p wise and i am also not that far off of lvl 10.

We will al get there some day. A few weeks ago it was pong games, this week its mouse maze things that are popular to submit. Why is it all of a sudden you get like nine of the exact same type of game within three days.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 15:26:31


At 4/24/07 03:05 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well now i seem like a really small fry. Cause Phantom is talking about pssing 51k points when i only just got my first 1k of points. But i am steadly working to improve up my stats. Oh and i am going at a pretty quick pase b/p wise and i am also not that far off of lvl 10.

It is kind of intimidating isn't it. When I first joined I was far behind some of the users in here as well though, and now I'm right up there with the best of them. It is just a matter of time and patience. I'm bearing down on 31k- hopefully I'll make it over the weekend.

Also an early congrats on level 10. It is beginning to dawn on me that I may well actually make it to level 14 before this mythical redesign, and I can't say that I am looking forward to it. Level 13 has always been one of my favourite levels, and that pipe is one of the worst. Sadly to get the better levels beyond it I have to keep going, and no way am I letting Major-Punk pass me any time soon :P. I never thought I would make level 13 before the redesign, so to make 14 as well is a very sad state of affairs.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 16:19:01


Well sentio thanks for the congrats. And well it took me forever to get this close to a new lvl but i am moving pretty quick through the ranks of b/p. Cause i have almost reached EGPFC cause i am only like 256 away and thats really not that far off at all. But i am looking forward to lvl 10 and my new rank. Cause i am going to try to get them both around the same time but i highly doubt that will happen as slow as the portal is running.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 16:40:54


At 4/24/07 04:19 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well sentio thanks for the congrats. And well it took me forever to get this close to a new lvl but i am moving pretty quick through the ranks of b/p.

I'm still a long way away from level 10. your glove will look so much better than this fist.

Cause i have almost reached EGPFC cause i am only like 256 away and thats really not that far off at all. B

I'm closing in on EGPFC myself. I am less than 40 points away now. I should get it tomorrow night.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 16:59:17


Well if i keep up the pace i am going theni should have the new rank by the end of the week at the latest. But if not then i am going to get it on Pico Day.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 18:49:12


I am working to get up to a new rank by the end of this week. I haven't been on much though which isn't helping me one bit. I will be racking up as many points as I can though today and whenever else I get a chance to!


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Well, Star Day is over. And with that out of the way, we can being preparations to survive the madness of Pico Day, which is arriving in less than a week.

At 4/23/07 05:12 PM, TheThing wrote: Trust me, you don't want to eat whatever kind of "cookie" is behind my bed.

Don't worry, I won't eat it. Especially since it doesn't really look like a cookie.

At 4/24/07 07:14 AM, Coop83 wrote: ... I don't think ReconRebel is a freak or weirdo - he's a night shift worker.

Really? All this time, I always thought that he was a vampire.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 19:01:51


Well i stay up late most of the time as well. But that's really only because im either bored or have nothing better to do.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 19:03:38


At 4/24/07 07:01 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well i stay up late most of the time as well. But that's really only because im either bored or have nothing better to do.

I do the same usually and thats when I rack up most of my points. I'm lucky to have days like this one where I am even home before 8.


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Well the best days are probably Major holidays or weekends. Cause that is when you could be home all day and use that time to b/p. But i am still preparing for the raging speed the portal will be at once Pico Day roll's aroud.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 19:26:12


At 4/24/07 07:06 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well the best days are probably Major holidays or weekends. Cause that is when you could be home all day and use that time to b/p. But i am still preparing for the raging speed the portal will be at once Pico Day roll's aroud.

I am as well. I can't wait for it. If it falls on a weekday then I am skipping school just to experience it!


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 19:46:57


Well i think it falls on a Monday if im not mistaken. But i will definitely get my share of the b/ping action. And i am hoping to get at least 80-100 b/ps that day so that would put me very close to my next rank.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 19:55:01


At 4/24/07 07:46 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well i think it falls on a Monday if im not mistaken. But i will definitely get my share of the b/ping action. And i am hoping to get at least 80-100 b/ps that day so that would put me very close to my next rank.

I hope to get even more than that! Depending on how many flashes are submitted of course! I still am hoping to rank up sometime soon.


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At 4/24/07 07:46 PM, I-Love-Caitlyn wrote: Well i think it falls on a Monday if im not mistaken. But i will definitely get my share of the b/ping action. And i am hoping to get at least 80-100 b/ps that day so that would put me very close to my next rank.

Yeah, it's a Monday. I hope to get a lot too, because the NGDD is having a B/P comp that day, although since I vote fairly, I'll lose. But I hope to get a lot, even with the school blocks on Newgrounds, cutting my day in half. Although I could just lose a lot of sleep and get the points.

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Well i know Sunday night/Monday morning i will be losing alot of sleep trying to get as many b/p points as i can before i have to go to school. But i get out of school early everyday so i am hoping to be back early enough so that i wont mess very much of the b/p action.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 20:44:34


:sigh:

You know what aggravates Supreme Commander Firestorm?

This.

Not so much the flash itself (although I'm surprised it passed...), but more that so many Newgrounders are falling into the trap. If left alone, it'd have sunk off the Recent 50 list and never have been seen again.

But no, a bunch of zero-happy people are going to do exactly what the submitters want and make abusive reviews and zero it repeated because it's got an antagonistic title, which will very likely give it Turd of the Week and give it massive publicity.

:sigh: I wish Newgrounders were smarter than this. If they'd just IGNORE it, it'd be gone.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 21:07:44


At 4/24/07 08:05 PM, TheThing wrote:
Yeah, it's a Monday. I hope to get a lot too, because the NGDD is having a B/P comp that day, although since I vote fairly, I'll lose. But I hope to get a lot, even with the school blocks on Newgrounds, cutting my day in half. Although I could just lose a lot of sleep and get the points.

My day gets cut down to one eighth the time I will need, all because of school, bedtime, and my dad making my go around '' getting groceries '' probably just to keep me from b/p'ing.
I hate school...

My dad is always pressuring me to change things about my ng account like my profile message. It sucks.


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Its a real shame to hear that Andrea. But my day might not be so bad time wise come Monday. Cause i will only go to school until about 12:30 (at least it will be that time where i live) and then i should be able to get home and go crazy b/ping.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2007-04-24 21:19:21


At 4/24/07 08:44 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Things about crappy flash.

I was surprised it passed as well but now it will probably get turd of the week so we can see it more and more! Yay... not really. I wish people would think about things before they act but then again most people don't.


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