EGB Revolution (1)
Thanks to Phantom, I can post my ideas about the EGB revolution here. In general, EGB revolution is a set of theories, ideas and methods that can make the glorious place shinning more brightly. Today, I would like to introduce some improved theories about members' management. The center of those theories is the repuatation system. Let me explain how it works.
For each enrolled member, he/she has a basic repuation points of 20. If you are an officer, you start from 80 points.The repuation points increase or decrease based on the behaviors of the member/officers after enrolling at the EGB. Once the repuation points go down to 0, the member will be put into trial and wait for the votes of officers. However, members also have chances to improve their repuation points by being a respectful, alert, responsible and active.
List 1: behaviors that will cause you losing reputation points:
A. Abuse Eagle or Phantom in public (-20 per post, that is the "death" penalty here, so do not offend the commanders of EGB noo matter what.)
B. Encourage mass voting (-15, we all know that EGB is against mass voting. Consequences are going to be serious when members cross the line.)
C. Intentional spam (-10 points per post. The least EGB wants to see is spamming, if you have nothing to say, please do not spam.)
D. Refuse to comply orders from Eagle, Phantom or other officers. (-5 points per disobey. Always obey your boss, boys!)
E. Being inactive for no reason (This rule does not apply to Eagle and Phantom since they are the commanders of EGB. For the rest of you, if you do not post in 7 days without being excused, 2 points will be reduced. 4 for 14 ays, 6 for 21 days and so on...)
List 2: good behaviors that will increase your reputation points:
A. Correctly report portal violations like stealing, being malicious or containing explicit content. (+1 per report)
B. Usefiul suggestions on EGB (+2 points per suggestion. If your suggestion is accepted by the officers, you get 4 points.)
C. Treasure hunt: (+5 points for each discovery. If you find users swapping files in the portal, please report to the forums. If it turns out that you are correct , 5 points will be rewarded.)
Every two weeks, the repuatation system should be updated. For those people whose repuatation points are between 2 and 10, you will constantly get warnings through your PM so that you will knoiw that you need to work hard and behave well in order to avoid the trial.
In the last a few days of every month, there will be a popular voting which all the EGB members are invited. The voting is about the popularity of the officers. Offcers who get the highest supporting rates will receive 1 repuatation points and the one who finishes the last will lose 1 point. Please notice that Eagle and Phantom will not be included because they are the commanders of the EGB.
Non-offcers who have a minium reputation of 60 points are qualitied to race for the officers positions (if they want to) against current officers who have their reputation points below 60. In case all the officers' reputation points are above 60, no elections will be held unless the officers announce their departures in the public for personal/business/school reasons. If (when) an officer's reputation points drop below 60 there will be an election which all the EGB members can determine who will take the position. Notice that people who are involved cannot vote. More importantly, each officer's vote counts twice as much as each member's vote because of their higher positions. The announcements will be made 5 days after the initial day of voting which should give each individual enough time to fillfull the rights.
Members who are willing to join the EGB (if qualified b/p wise) must agree on the reputation system in the FAQ before registering. In case you have drooped all your reputation points and been sent to trial, it is going to be nobody but your own fault. Excuses like "I never noticed that my reputation points had dropped under the safety line (10 points, because you will receive kind warnings once your score is under 10 because EGB hates kicking people out.)" will not be evaluated as acceptable excuses.
The major benefit of the reputation sysytem is that members will be able to know how they fare in the EGB through the reputation updates and get time to adjust their behaviors if they want to stay. It also gives officers pressure so that they will compete and contribute positively instead of laying on their positions. More importantly, the usage of reputation system can drive away those who just want the mebership as a protector to spam (e.g BonusStage) or at least kick them out fast. It is also an ordeal for those who trulty want to become a member because of the system is designed for those who can mentally tough enough to outlast the ordeals of EGB and other events. I know that there are still many flawsa in the system waiting to be modified, that is the exact reason why I am posting here --- so that you can improve and modify the rules if it is necessary. Please take your time and at least consider the EGB revolution on membership management. If you think that this post is unworthy, please ignore it. If you find something worthy that can be used to improve the EGB, you are more than welcome to use the system and make your adjustment. Once again, thanks for reading, salutes!

Dear Phantom or Eagle, Even though I am not part of the Elite Guard Barracks, I would like to report that on my portal duty today, I noticed that The "Star Syndicate" have possibly (99% sure) been stealing the movies from other people, making minor tweaks ike the name, and then spamming the portal, Sir. *gasp* *pant,pant*

At 1/10/07 05:43 PM, Seamonky wrote:

At 1/10/07 04:47 PM, Phantom wrote:

At 1/10/07 04:36 PM, Sterockicy wrote: Heres my sexy screenshot.

You also belong an increasing group of more saves than blams... Congratulations, my average would never change so hard...maybe with ten consecutive clock days.

My average will change eventually since my Saves are catching up to my Blam points. I usually get off the computer for a while and come back in the next 3 hours when more good flashes come through the Flash Portal.

Same here. I B/P ratio used to be 2/1 but now it is 14/10. due to the change in the UJ checkpoints the Blam points disappear way to fast. as a result more people are getting more saves stay longer then the blams when UJ. the way it is looking I think I may get 15000 saves before blams.

At 1/10/07 07:29 PM, HomerDough wrote: I got 29 yesterday. 29!!!! That's like the lowest day I actually B/P ed on. I thought I wouldv'e gotten like 50 at least but 29. DELA GOT 77. HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET THAT?

It is possible, fella. The portal has been slow in general, but it does not mean that it has been slow all the time, For example, there were just 111 submitted entries yesterday, (it is almost 2 A.M now, and I will count it as a new day.) I had a break from 9-10 between classes and decided to check the portal. Guess what, there were 21 UJ entries there which was not bad. The key of b/p is timing. If you sweep the portal around 9:30 in the morning, 4:30 in the afternoon and 11:30 at night, you should get a decent amount of points every day. If you sweep the portal around 9:30, there will still be plenty of entries left for the previous night and the afternoon sweep should include most of the entries submitted after 2:00. The sweep before bed time should take care most entries submitted after 9:00. So if you can spend 1 hour in total doing those 3 sweeps in case you have no time to refresh the screen every 10 seconds, you should be able to get at least 60 points per day. Hopefully, my little method will help you to speed up even when the portal is slow. :) Salutes!

At 1/10/07 10:40 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: E. Being inactive for no reason (This rule does not apply to Eagle and Phantom since they are the commanders of EGB. For the rest of you, if you do not post in 7 days without being excused, 2 points will be reduced. 4 for 14 ays, 6 for 21 days and so on...)

Well I am in trouble there then. I doubt that I would go 21 days without posting but Its not uncommon for me to not post for over a week. I do have excuses but they are all pretty pathetic so Im not going to make them. Also what if we cant comply with EagleRock's or Phantoms orders? Feel free to ignore me, I'm just thinking aloud.
e-v

At 1/10/07 10:40 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: EGB Revolution (1)

Well, to me it all sounds like a cartoon plan that makes things much more complicated than they have to be. This is an ok system, but who do you suppose will do that insane amount of work such as constant PM notifications and updates? Our records officer has enough on his hands. It really seems like the sort of plan you'd like as long as some one else did it, but doing is actually very demanding, and since if any one will have to do it, it will be our Records Officer, Major-Punk, it is his decision entirely.

At 1/10/07 07:29 PM, HomerDough wrote: I got 29 yesterday. 29!!!! That's like the lowest day I actually B/P ed on. I thought I wouldv'e gotten like 50 at least but 29. DELA GOT 77. HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET THAT?

I've been having the same problem, but i've been got 73 that day and 67 yesterday. The portal at one stage last night was very active around 2100 hours, but it was full of entries that I saw fit to be blammed and so they didn't stay in the portal very long. About 30 movies and games were gotten rid of in an hour. It's getting harder to get points though. Even as i'm not back to college till the 22nd of january, I probably won't make it to Elite Guard Sergeant First Class, thanks to the very low activity in the portal, and if I do I'll be amazed.
I was just wondering, as I've only been a member since June, can the older members tell me if it's like this every year, or is it just a slump in newgrounds visitors that is effecting it?

At 1/11/07 07:42 AM, Shanus wrote: I was just wondering, as I've only been a member since June, can the older members tell me if it's like this every year, or is it just a slump in newgrounds visitors that is effecting it?

Some times it weakens with schools and some spammers dying, and some times there are more spammers and less school, which is usually a big factor.

At 1/11/07 07:55 AM, Phantom wrote:

At 1/11/07 07:42 AM, Shanus wrote: I was just wondering, as I've only been a member since June, can the older members tell me if it's like this every year, or is it just a slump in newgrounds visitors that is effecting it?

Some times it weakens with schools and some spammers dying, and some times there are more spammers and less school, which is usually a big factor.

Well it's probably the latter then, and for the first time in my 6 month b/p-ing carreer, I can go to sleep and only miss one new entry into the portal. But I should probably enjoy the rest, as when the redesign happens, the spammers will probably go into overdrive.

Well I'm back in Denver, and therefore will be more active again. I doubt I will be as active as I was before though (at least in B/P) as I'm going to have to work my ass off at work to avoid getting fired (I've got three weeks to prove my worth).

On a brighter note I did return to find myself with over 9000 saves, so yeay for that!

this SOB is malicious

At 1/11/07 04:30 PM, HomerDough wrote: this SOB is malicious

Whistled SOB.

Don't you just hate when they do that. it's like a fly that clings, it knows it will eventually get crushed, but he'll just keep bugging you.

this is stolen

adgamesonline.com

At 1/11/07 04:48 AM, ever-vigilant wrote: Well I am in trouble there then. I doubt that I would go 21 days without posting but Its not uncommon for me to not post for over a week. I do have excuses but they are all pretty pathetic so Im not going to make them. Also what if we cant comply with EagleRock's or Phantoms orders? Feel free to ignore me, I'm just thinking aloud.
e-v

Problem understood. That is exactly the reason why you only lose 2 points for being inactive for 1 week. If you have read my post about EGB revolution, you will see that you get plenty of chances to pick the points up. (e.g reporting portal violentions) If most of you still feel uncomfortable for the rules, feel free to discuss and I can teel you that those rules/systems can be modified based on the benefits of EGB. As an EGB member, you have the reponsibility of complying to your superior officers. Thus there will be no points awarded for that because it is your duty.

Nice to see that Shanus has been accepted into the Barracks. Just as long as he knows that I always get the top bunk, we shouldn't have any problems.

At 1/11/07 03:55 PM, Donthurtme wrote: On a brighter note I did return to find myself with over 9000 saves, so yeay for that!

Congrats on that.

At 1/10/07 10:40 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: EGB Revolution (1)

As interesting as that sounds, it also sounds really complicated. Who'd be willing to do all that work? :O

At 1/11/07 07:41 AM, Phantom wrote:

At 1/10/07 10:40 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: EGB Revolution (1)

Well, to me it all sounds like a cartoon plan that makes things much more complicated than they have to be. This is an ok system, but who do you suppose will do that insane amount of work such as constant PM notifications and updates? Our records officer has enough on his hands. It really seems like the sort of plan you'd like as long as some one else did it, but doing is actually very demanding, and since if any one will have to do it, it will be our Records Officer, Major-Punk, it is his decision entirely.

I do understand that much work is required for the updates, but like I said previously, it is just a demo system I had some ideas about. Any change on the system is welcome as long as it is for the benefits of EGB. It is fully reasonable that MP is busy, I will not mind to prolong the regular system update to once per months which will give him more time. Like I said last night, the system is just a demo and there is plenty of work left to do in order to make it good. Also, if you aneed more people to work on the system, I bet that most of the EGB members will be thrilled to provide their help. Of course, it is uup to MP to make his decision. I will not complain even if he rejects everything about the system. Once again, thanks for giving my ideas some credits. To be honest, I really did not expect anyone to reply to my dumb ideas. Salutes!

At 1/11/07 04:38 PM, HomerDough wrote: this is stolen

adgamesonline.com

it could be stolen but the guy's profile says that he's from adgames.com?
Hmm... this calls for a investigation.

now could this be stolen?

At 1/11/07 06:10 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:

Problem understood. That is exactly the reason why you only lose 2 points for being inactive for 1 week. If you have read my post about EGB revolution, you will see that you get plenty of chances to pick the points up. (e.g reporting portal violentions) If most of you still feel uncomfortable for the rules, feel free to discuss and I can teel you that those rules/systems can be modified based on the benefits of EGB. As an EGB member, you have the reponsibility of complying to your superior officers. Thus there will be no points awarded for that because it is your duty.

Your idea has a bit of merit as a way to keep track of who is active and who is causing trouble, but I have to agree with Phantom that it is an enormous work load for one user to take on. I'm on here more than most and I still don't think I would have time to keep track of every user, reading over each and every post.

Also, and don't take offence to this, I just don't see any real reason to implement it. We all know who posts a lot and who doesn't, and we also know who creates the most spam or causes trouble. Those who deserve to become officers eventually do through recognition by their superiors.

I also don't agree with penalising people for not posting regularly, either in this club or any other for that matter. When joining up here you are not commiting yourself to remain active day after day, but rather to visit the thread on occasion and contribute to the conversation. There have been plenty of weeks where I have been active on NG, but not posted here simply because I didn't feel that I could contribute to the conversation in a meaningful way, but that doesn't make me any less of a member in my opinion. In fact I'd like to think it makes me a better user- I don't simply post to increase my post count, but rather to say something I want to say. On top of that there is no guarentee that people's connections are stable, or that the outside world won't get in the way for some reason, and to be penalised for that just doesn't feel right to me.

I do think that people should be able to voice their opinion about officers though, and even go so far as to suggest replacements if necessary. Of course all decisions would be left to Phantom or Eagle in the end, but I'm sure that all the officers won't complain about a bit of feedback on how they are contributing to the thread, and how they could improve in their respective roles, so long as any feedback is both with good reason/evidence and with some respect- we don't want people just flaming people because they don't like them for whatever reason.

God im so pissed off. I keep going back to bronze or silver i want diety and i'll never get there because of this rate.

At 1/11/07 06:37 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: God im so pissed off. I keep going back to bronze or silver i want diety and i'll never get there because of this rate.

Well that probably means you need to read the FAQ, but just keep at it, it took me a good few months to get mine. But just keep at it, I can assure you it's worth it. :D

At 1/11/07 06:20 PM, Mr-Molotov wrote: Nice to see that Shanus has been accepted into the Barracks. Just as long as he knows that I always get the top bunk, we shouldn't have any problems.

Thanks, I thought I should probably take a bottom one, as there are many soldiers here too long for a noobie to take over

At 1/11/07 06:56 PM, Shanus wrote:

At 1/11/07 06:37 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: God im so pissed off. I keep going back to bronze or silver i want diety and i'll never get there because of this rate.

Well that probably means you need to read the FAQ, but just keep at it, it took me a good few months to get mine. But just keep at it, I can assure you it's worth it. :D

I read the faq like more then i million times. I dont think i need to read it another.
Put seriously how can i beat PenguinLink when i keep getting this.

At 1/11/07 06:37 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: God im so pissed off. I keep going back to bronze or silver i want diety and i'll never get there because of this rate.

You are probably flagging or blowing the whistle on submissions incorrectly. I would suggest making sure everything you flag is violating the rules before flagging it. If you are unsure whether the review or submissions is abusive or unsuitable, be sure to ask us! :)

*Salutes*

Glad to see you back, Donthurtme! You're stuff and bunk got a bit dusty but I'll make sure someone dusts your stuff (*Looks at DarkSoldier*) before you settle back in again. =) Oh and Congratulations on 9000 saves, only 1000 more to go to reach 10,000! :o

*Salutes*

At 1/11/07 07:03 PM, PenguinLink wrote:

At 1/11/07 06:37 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: God im so pissed off. I keep going back to bronze or silver i want diety and i'll never get there because of this rate.

You are probably flagging or blowing the whistle on submissions incorrectly. I would suggest

making sure everything you flag is violating the rules before flagging it. If you are unsure whether the review or submissions is abusive or unsuitable, be sure to ask us! :)

*Salutes*

Im pretty sure Im flagging them correctly unless something weird is going on??
Yeah I'll be sure to ask if i don't know. I'll be sure to check KK and CC and SS reviews because i know they get a lot of abusive reviews.

Glad to see you back, Donthurtme! You're stuff and bunk got a bit dusty but I'll make sure someone dusts your stuff (*Looks at DarkSoldier*) before you settle back in again. =) Oh and Congratulations on 9000 saves, only 1000 more to go to reach 10,000! :o

*Salutes*

IM NOT A MAID lol. Yeah sure Janitor John at your service, How may i be any help?

*Salutes*?

At 1/11/07 07:09 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: IM NOT A MAID lol. Yeah sure Janitor John at your service, How may i be any help?

Ok, Janitor John, the bathroom needs some serious cleaning so get to it! And while you're at it, mop the kitchen. The other day, Sterockicy spilled some orange juice and while I was barking orders at him to clean it up, he just shrugged and walked away, whistling. Also, yesterday, while I was teaching Shanus how to use a Blam Rifle, I accidently shot a oil tank and it spilled an awfully amount of oil. Please clean that up, and be sure not to slip, because if you do, not only will we all laugh, but you'll probably break something. Ok, the work has been assigned, so get to work!

*Salutes*?

Haha, I found that question mark beside the work amusing. :D

*Salutes*

At 1/11/07 07:20 PM, PenguinLink wrote:

Also, yesterday, while I was teaching Shanus how to use a Blam Rifle, I accidently shot a oil tank and it spilled an awfully amount of oil. Please clean that up, and be sure not to slip, because if you do, not only will we all laugh, but you'll probably break something. Ok, the work has been assigned, so get to work!

Yeah it was a hard days training, and I really do need to Blam more submissions. But I'm greatful for your help.

*SALUTES*

At 1/11/07 07:09 PM, DarkSoldier wrote:

Im pretty sure Im flagging them correctly unless something weird is going on??
Yeah I'll be sure to ask if i don't know. I'll be sure to check KK and CC and SS reviews because i know they get a lot of abusive reviews.

Have you been using the Abusive review thread in the Where is/How to? forum? That's where I got the vast majority of my whistle points. An d is really the place to go, if you want a higher whistle and to get rid of abuse. If you have just keep at it, it does take a long time.

*Salutes*

At 1/10/07 10:40 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:

EGB Revolution (1)
List 1: behaviors that will cause you losing reputation points:
List 2: good behaviors that will increase your reputation points:

I read it, it took a long time but I read it. But theres no need for an official reputation system and I think everythings fine the way it is now. Besides I doubt anyone will want to do it, I know I don't.

Also congrats to Donthurtme on 9k saves.

hey majorpunk, when is the member list gonna be updated? It's been two weeks already? You busy or something?

At 1/11/07 07:03 PM, PenguinLink wrote:

Glad to see you back, Donthurtme! You're stuff and bunk got a bit dusty but I'll make sure someone dusts your stuff (*Looks at DarkSoldier*) before you settle back in again. =)

Woah, woah, woah- you mean to say you haven't been keeping it clean in my absence?

Oh and Congratulations on 9000 saves, only 1000 more to go to reach 10,000! :o

Thanks for the congrats, and to everyone else who has congratulated me as well. I can't say I care that much about it, but I thought it was worth mentioning. I've piled on plenty of saves while I was away as I only visited the portal once or twice a day rather than the constant refreshing I usually do. As such almost all the points I gained were saves, meaning my B/P ratio is closer than ever. Can't wait for the big 10,000 though.

*Salutes*

*salutes*

At 1/11/07 08:29 PM, HomerDough wrote:

hey majorpunk, when is the member list gonna be updated?

Likely this weekend.

You busy or something?

Yes. Mostly schoolwork but this is what happens when it's left to the last minute. >_>

Dark soldier! I just posted another big link in the abusive reviews thread. There are 102 links. Do as many as you can (I dont expect you to be able to go through them all, Its to boring and painful lol) The top 10 links contain the most abuse! At least do them.