At 1/9/06 04:14 AM, Coop83 wrote:

Unfortunately, no matter how we try, there always seems to be one or two which squeak through.

yeah where not perfect where only human but that wont stop me from trying and if you think about it??? the one they submitted to the portal legitimately was blammed and we had known about the swapped file and we didn't have the power to stop it this time it will get deleted anyway's so in the end we still win.

At 1/9/06 04:36 AM, JoKeR_ADT wrote: yeah where not perfect where only human but that wont stop me from trying and if you think about it??? the one they submitted to the portal legitimately was blammed and we had known about the swapped file and we didn't have the power to stop it this time it will get deleted anyway's so in the end we still win.

They think they win, but they don't. In the end, rendering their endeavour completely and utterly pointless.

Alright we have another file swap here . Now that we set up screen shot duties I want to know who had this shift and who has the title of it before swap. Both I and EagleRock agreed on this method to create out list and I come back home right now to see this... a perfect test to the new system. Now whose shift was it? You better have that title on way or another.

At 1/9/06 06:09 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: Alright we have another file swap here .

Unfortunately, that was already protected before I clocked in this morning. It was the first flash past judgement.

Well I'm glad that the name of the submission was found before hand. But still I would like screen shot duties to become a regular to best identify these flashes... Oh well back to the portal.

At 1/9/06 08:20 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: Well I'm glad that the name of the submission was found before hand. But still I would like screen shot duties to become a regular to best identify these flashes... Oh well back to the portal.

It's got a good case, but then you need a system which forces them to take a screeny of the flash itself, rather than just downloading a nice picture from somewhere like Google

At 1/9/06 08:24 AM, Coop83 wrote: It's got a good case, but then you need a system which forces them to take a screeny of the flash itself, rather than just downloading a nice picture from somewhere like Google.

No man... I was talking with EagleRock about a screen shot shift based duty for the few people that will agree. Every time the portal is uploaded with another flash you take a screen shot and then if someone file swaps we know how it was called back then by looking at it’s position compared to ones that didn’t change ( most of them ) and since they use the same good flash to pass judgment every time the title should be almost the same. So we can make a list... it would get simpler then for us because once we have a full list they will have us to deal with. I have a plan for then but it's too complicated to revel now...

At 1/9/06 08:53 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: No man... I was talking with EagleRock about a screen shot shift based duty for the few people that will agree. Every time the portal is uploaded with another flash you take a screen shot and then if someone file swaps we know how it was called back then by looking at it’s position compared to ones that didn’t change

Oh, I get it. So we take the shots and monitor certain flashes, so we know when there are file swaps and we can do something about it, Via Wade etc.

I have a plan for then but it's too complicated to revel now...

Best not to, we don't know if we are being infiltrated by the Barney Bunch *looks around, in a paranoid fashion*

At 1/9/06 08:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Oh, I get it. So we take the shots and monitor certain flashes, so we know when there are file swaps and we can do something about it, Via Wade etc.

Exactly. Only problem is this a 24 hour thing and I can only do it for 8-9 hours a day... and seemingly no one else seems to take responsibility on it while I’m not here...

At 1/9/06 09:21 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: Exactly. Only problem is this a 24 hour thing and I can only do it for 8-9 hours a day... and seemingly no one else seems to take responsibility on it while I’m not here...

Well, I do look through the 50 last flash to have come through, during my lunch break. Sometimes I find the occasional one worthy of an email to Wade, but it's a rare occurence.

At 1/9/06 06:09 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: Alright we have another file swap here . Now that we set up screen shot duties I want to know who had this shift and who has the title of it before swap. Both I and EagleRock agreed on this method to create out list and I come back home right now to see this... a perfect test to the new system. Now whose shift was it? You better have that title on way or another.

I didn't screenshot it, but I did notice right away that it was a fileswap. The name of this was the "Swanky Hotel" flash, under the name of "Odd Guest." If you look at Sergeant First Class SlashFirestorm's post, he specifically addresses it. Not enough were on to flag it.

Also, if people don't get the screenshot of the name pre-fileswap, you can just as easily check the reviews. Note the first review of this flash notes the "man in red suspenders and the blue speedo." That alone is a giveaway even if we didn't see which flash it was pre-fileswap.

At 1/9/06 08:53 AM, Ghost_Phantom wrote: No man... I was talking with EagleRock about a screen shot shift based duty for the few people that will agree. Every time the portal is uploaded with another flash you take a screen shot and then if someone file swaps we know how it was called back then by looking at it’s position compared to ones that didn’t change ( most of them ) and since they use the same good flash to pass judgment every time the title should be almost the same. So we can make a list... it would get simpler then for us because once we have a full list they will have us to deal with.

The only problem with this plan is that it takes a lot of work. Honestly, it is a job that I know I can't take up simply because I don't sit at my computer all day when I B/P. I only stop in every 20-30 minutes or so to catch the new Portal entrants. My screenshotting would indeed be useless, as I'm sure I miss flash and wouldn't have a high enough frequency of screenshots to sufficiently track which flash were swapped.

I have a plan for then but it's too complicated to revel now...

Remember that there is an Officer's Room in the Barracks Forums that you can post this in, sir. Perhaps that room could be to your advantage. You can use it for idea forumulation and other things that are too classified for public announcement.

At 1/8/06 04:28 PM, Dream_of_Duke wrote: Please take serious consideration on Slash, and Bahamut7 for the position.

Well, it might be a place I'll take a look at now that TITROTU is inactive.

Hurry, guards, vote 0 before it passes the judgement!

Did it get blammed? I don't see it on the portal. If blammed, then good.

At 1/8/06 07:45 PM, Major_punk wrote: snarfclock and RSlegend:

Thank you! I have found it quite annoying that two people are talking to each other with so many posts making it hard to catch up in this thread.

At 1/9/06 11:04 AM, EagleRock wrote: The only problem with this plan is that it takes a lot of work. Honestly, it is a job that I know I can't take up simply because I don't sit at my computer all day when I B/P. I only stop in every 20-30 minutes or so to catch the new Portal entrants. My screenshotting would indeed be useless, as I'm sure I miss flash and wouldn't have a high enough frequency of screenshots to sufficiently track which flash were swapped.

So I guess I shall be the only one Those 8-9 hours I can provide is all I can possibly give. It wold take work but if we have the complete list the next step plan will be much easier...

Remember that there is an Officer's Room in the Barracks Forums that you can post this in, sir. Perhaps that room could be to your advantage. You can use it for idea forumulation and other things that are too classified for public announcement.

I'll be posting it there shortly... Though it's not really a puzzle to find the place but it isn't as public as here...

At 1/9/06 11:20 AM, Bahamut7 wrote: Thank you! I have found it quite annoying that two people are talking to each other with so many posts making it hard to catch up in this thread.

Oh come on. I spent 2 whole pages talking with -Gooch- on the NHL Fanclub one day and most of the members hated us for it :)

At 1/9/06 11:20 AM, Bahamut7 wrote:

At 1/8/06 04:28 PM, Dream_of_Duke wrote: Please take serious consideration on Slash, and Bahamut7 for the position.

Well, it might be a place I'll take a look at now that TITROTU is inactive.

Well, like I said, sir, I had to implement a policy that requires anyone going for a position to have effectively served in it. This is because the Officer system is for recognizing the service that people already do. If you are interested in the Portal Operations Officer position, I would recommend showing your strategies and how we can effectively protect the Portal, especially in the midst of these attacks.

I think we can pretty much assume that Major General TITROTU is not coming back, so I am ready to fulfull the position, even in an Interim style, just so that we have this vital position.

\: At 1/8/06 07:45 PM, Major_punk wrote:

snarfclock and RSlegend:

Thank you! I have found it quite annoying that two people are talking to each other with so many posts making it hard to catch up in this thread.

Indeed, sir. They were quick to understand, so I think the Barracks are back to normal.

Unfortunately, many people STILL have not read the posts I was making yesterday. Indeed, NOBODY even noticed I appointed a new officer! Also, very few people (I believe three) even recognized that I was trying to get feedback and most of them didn't even bother to read specifically what I was looking for in a petition. I told everyone that I would try to follow the Barracks' consensus in regards to future appointments, but I am finding it very hard because noone responds!

As of now:
- We still have a Portal Operations Officer AWOL and without a replacement
- We still have potential officers pending approval
- We still have Barracks members being nominated for officership without even thinking about what position they could fill

Granted, it was tough with the dozens of posts being made yesterday, but I would appreciate people responding to my requests. Do we have any suggestions for the above?

At 1/9/06 11:35 AM, EagleRock wrote: - We still have a Portal Operations Officer AWOL and without a replacement

What exactly does the Portal operations officer do? Could we please get a fresh description of each officer's task.

- We still have potential officers pending approval

Technically, most of the members here could fulfil any of the officer's positions.

If you need me to help, I think I may be able to, to either a greater or lesser degree.

At 1/9/06 11:38 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 1/9/06 11:35 AM, EagleRock wrote: - We still have a Portal Operations Officer AWOL and without a replacement

What exactly does the Portal operations officer do? Could we please get a fresh description of each officer's task.

Portal Ops is the officer in charge of strategies and techniques for better protecting our Portal. The attempts to stop the BB before it starts would fall under Portal Ops jurisdiction. The problem we have is that there are current at least three people all trying to spearhead the same exact technique, none of them taking into account whether Wade Fulp agrees with using the whistle system in this manner! Portal Ops would be in charge of organizing this effort. I have been trying to get people together and recognize that we really need to talk to Wade about this, but indeed, noone has listened.

- We still have potential officers pending approval

Technically, most of the members here could fulfil any of the officer's positions.

Technically, yes, but in reality, no. I have specifically said time and time again recently that for someone to be petitioned for a position, they have to have been SERVING that position in the Portal already. Keep in mind officer positions are for recognizing efforts, not for placating those jonesing for a position like there's no tomorrow.

For example, in regards to Portal Ops, I wouldn't even hear a petition for someone to fulfill the position unless they have done something already towards that end. Right now, there are only four that have, in my opinion, worked in Portal Ops enough to get the job. Those four right now are Praporshchik Ghost_Phantom, Captain Dream_of_Duke, Sergeant First Class SlashFirestorm and Private First Class -Mitsubishi-.

I'm not saying I'm recommending any one of those four for the position, but it gives you an idea. If someone wants to take up the position, then they should start acting in Portal Ops. If you show that you are right for the job, then you will definately be nominated. Even if other Barracks members do not pay attention, I am always looking at what Barracks members are doing to contribute.

If you need me to help, I think I may be able to, to either a greater or lesser degree.

Well, you have been with us for a long time and are capable of a position. I suggest that you show your capabilities on the Portal and your position will come to you naturally.

At 1/9/06 11:52 AM, EagleRock wrote: Well, you have been with us for a long time and are capable of a position. I suggest that you show your capabilities on the Portal and your position will come to you naturally.

Dumb typo. I meant that if you show your capabilities here in the Barracks and show how you can serve the Barracks, a position will come to you naturally.

At 1/9/06 11:52 AM, EagleRock wrote: Portal Ops is the officer in charge of strategies and techniques for better protecting our Portal.

I have one strategy when trying to defend the portal. It is very rare that I see a movie on the portal which is UJ and someone has told me on the BBS or by IM to B/P it. I look at the portal first, the rest later.

I am always looking at what Barracks members are doing to contribute.

Well, It takes a good leader to see what his men are doing. I remember when I outranked you, but now you have grown into your position

/brown nosing

Well, you have been with us for a long time and are capable of a position. I suggest that you show your capabilities on the Portal and your position will come to you naturally.

I'm not particularly gunning for a position, I was just stating that I'm trying all I can to get the portal safe from attack.

At 1/9/06 11:59 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 1/9/06 11:52 AM, EagleRock wrote: Portal Ops is the officer in charge of strategies and techniques for better protecting our Portal.

I have one strategy when trying to defend the portal. It is very rare that I see a movie on the portal which is UJ and someone has told me on the BBS or by IM to B/P it. I look at the portal first, the rest later.

Indeed, those words speak wisdom. As you may know, I do not condone telling other Barracks members how to vote on a submission. Indeed, it is against the rules here. However, Portal Ops is necessary for a long-term solution to the Barney Bunch dilemma. The solution now is REactive, informing Wade of the Barney Bunch after the strike. With a great solution in place, we can be PROactive and attack before the strike.

I am always looking at what Barracks members are doing to contribute.

Well, It takes a good leader to see what his men are doing. I remember when I outranked you, but now you have grown into your position

/brown nosing

Heh, thanks for the compliment, Sergeant Major. I try my best.

Well, you have been with us for a long time and are capable of a position. I suggest that you show your capabilities on the Portal and your position will come to you naturally.

I'm not particularly gunning for a position, I was just stating that I'm trying all I can to get the portal safe from attack.

I know you weren't at all, Sergeant Major. Indeed, my comments about those "jonesing for a position" was not directed to you at ALL. I was merely stating that if you serve your Portal well, an officer position goes your way.

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Attention, Soliders!

I would like to quickly talk about our efforts to stop the Barney Bunch. In regards to the pre-fileswap campaign, I have had apprehension towards it, as everyone might have known. I realized why just now, as there is no guidelines to it. I was worried about people flagging left and right without strong evidence towards a Barney Bunch attack. However, there is a solution.

We have been compiling lists of Barney Bunch flash as of late. Indeed, I would as Sergeant First Class SlashFirestorm to PM Praporshchik Ghost_Phantom your compilations so far so we can keep them in the Officer Meeting Room for safety. Reasons now are classified. We will provide updates to the use of the list soon.

However, I would ask that when considering flagging a potential Barney Bunch fileswap, have sufficient proof before doing so. If it is listed, flag it and reference that list in your whistleblow. However, if you are suspicious of a flash, track it and write down as much info as you can about the flash. If it does fileswap, report it so it can be added to the list for next time. In this way, we can be sure of our flagging and not have to worry about speculation.

I've recently gone on board with this idea, as I think it is good as long as we stay from the speculation. I feel I can now properly explain to Wade what we are trying to do and will e-mail him about it. I will report any updates later.

Praporshchik EagleRock, I have a small question about your statement. You said to record the name, author etc of suspected potential fileswaps. Is there a member of the EG who is doing screenshots? I think I remember someone saying something about using screenshots. I just want to clarify, thanks.

P/Captain K-Pingu

At 1/9/06 02:26 PM, K-Pingu wrote: Praporshchik EagleRock, I have a small question about your statement. You said to record the name, author etc of suspected potential fileswaps. Is there a member of the EG who is doing screenshots? I think I remember someone saying something about using screenshots. I just want to clarify, thanks.

P/Captain K-Pingu

Right now there are screenshots being taken, yes. However, screenshots aren't necessary as long as people get the flash and their description. Our plans for what we are going to do with the information being recorded are currently classified.

At 1/9/06 02:31 PM, EagleRock wrote: Right now there are screenshots being taken, yes. However, screenshots aren't necessary as long as people get the flash and their description.

Oh, ok then.

:Our plans for what we are going to do with the information being recorded are currently classified.

Naturally. If you wish you can always PM me about it in the EG forums (yes, Im a member. Major-punk registered in our, so I kept it even).

Thank you,
*Salutes
P/Captain K-Pingu

At 1/9/06 11:32 AM, Coop83 wrote: Oh come on. I spent 2 whole pages talking with -Gooch- on the NHL Fanclub one day and most of the members hated us for it :)

It's happened a few times here now. It's getting quite annoying now. Besides, I wasn't in such a good mood then.

Well, I took a look at the Portal Operation Officer. I was thinking of volunteering, but there's something that's keeping me back. On a normal school day, I am usually on NG from 10:30AM to 4:00PM EST. Tuesdays and Wednesdays I will be out for some or most of the time. Saturdays and Sundays, I am on from 4:30AM to 4:00PM EST. There's the later time on NG that I am not on, so I don't think I will volunteer for that position.

At 1/9/06 02:35 PM, K-Pingu wrote:

Our plans for what we are going to do with the information being recorded are currently classified.

Naturally. If you wish you can always PM me about it in the EG forums (yes, Im a member. Major-punk registered in our, so I kept it even).

I am fully aware of you being a part of our forums...who do you think it was that made your membership status "NGPD HQ Member?" ;-) If you wish, I will PM you about the situation.

At 1/9/06 02:43 PM, Bahamut7 wrote: Well, I took a look at the Portal Operation Officer. I was thinking of volunteering, but there's something that's keeping me back. On a normal school day, I am usually on NG from 10:30AM to 4:00PM EST. Tuesdays and Wednesdays I will be out for some or most of the time. Saturdays and Sundays, I am on from 4:30AM to 4:00PM EST. There's the later time on NG that I am not on, so I don't think I will volunteer for that position.

Duly noted. Thank you for showing your interest, sir.

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I'm just curious, as people haven't really responding to me lately...has anyone noticed that PFC -Mitsubishi- is our new Portal Intel Ops Officer yet?

At 1/9/06 02:56 PM, EagleRock wrote: I'm just curious, as people haven't really responding to me lately...has anyone noticed that PFC -Mitsubishi- is our new Portal Intel Ops Officer yet?

Sorry, Praporshchik EagleRock. I missed that, which is one thing I may shouldn't have skipped. Anyway, congrats to PFC Mitsubishi for becoming the new Barracks Portal Intel Ops Officer.

At 1/9/06 02:56 PM, EagleRock wrote: -----------------

I'm just curious, as people haven't really responding to me lately...has anyone noticed that PFC -Mitsubishi- is our new Portal Intel Ops Officer yet?

yes, i noticed that on our forums.

Congrats SlashFirestorm on your rank up!

At 1/9/06 11:20 AM, Bahamut7 wrote:

At 1/8/06 07:45 PM, Major_punk wrote: snarfclock and RSlegend:

Thank you! I have found it quite annoying that two people are talking to each other with so many posts making it hard to catch up in this thread.

Well you know you or anyone else could always of just said something.
Or I guess I have to do all the dirty work ; )

At 1/9/06 11:35 AM, EagleRock wrote:

At 1/8/06 07:45 PM, Major_punk wrote: snarfclock and RSlegend:

Thank you! I have found it quite annoying that two people are talking to each other with so many posts making it hard to catch up in this thread.

Indeed, sir. They were quick to understand, so I think the Barracks are back to normal.

And I appreciate their co-operation, they were very mature about it. = )

I told everyone that I would try to follow the Barracks' consensus in regards to future appointments, but I am finding it very hard because noone responds!

Sorry EagleRock, I am still slightly in the dark about what exactly is happening because I never got a chance to read anyones posts thoroughly over the weekend. I have some catch-up to do still.

As of now:
- We still have a Portal Operations Officer AWOL and without a replacement

I dont think we can go too wrong on this position. But whoever gets it... PLEASE JUST GET TO THE POINT.
I still dont have a decision on my choice btw. :P

At 1/9/06 12:39 PM, EagleRock wrote:

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Attention, Soliders!

I would like to quickly talk about our efforts to stop the Barney Bunch. In regards to the pre-fileswap campaign,

If this e-mail is going to represent the Barracks I want to know exactly what is written on it before hand. Either here or the EGB forums.

At 1/9/06 02:56 PM, EagleRock wrote:

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...has anyone noticed that PFC -Mitsubishi- is our new Portal Intel Ops Officer yet?

Yes, and ive read up to his 3rd report on the EGB forums.
and thanks -mitsubishi- (you need a nickname thats too long) for posting it there and not here. Keeps it more organized : )

At 1/8/06 11:30 PM, EagleRock wrote:

At 1/8/06 09:12 PM, KungFuCow wrote: Sorry for the double-post, but I hope Praporshchik EagleRock gets here A.S.A.P. and i highly recommend to increase DEFCON to level 2, as the portal is getting hot with around 23 under-judgement flashes now (DEFCON guide says level 2 is anywhere between 20-25).

Sorry I missed it, sir!

There is no need to refer to me as sir, SIR, as you are the ranking officer here.

This is First Class PFC KungFuCow, signing in for duty today, sir(s). Off to the portal with me.

At 1/9/06 02:56 PM, EagleRock wrote: If you wish, I will PM you about the situation.

If you could, just so I can keep ahead of things in my Unit, that'd be great. I wont need to breath a word of it, I just want to know whats going on on your end, so we dont end up having overlapping tasks.

Thanks!
*Salutes
P/Capt K-Pingu