At 4/16/24 09:11 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 4/16/24 08:56 PM, Da-Birb wrote:

At 4/16/24 07:51 PM, YendorNG wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/926323

I don't feel quite right about this. Da-birb has created an LLM instance in the gadget category. My concerns are:

edit:

Who's server is powering this???

dabirb is powered by batman and banana's. i hope this awsers your question.

I think the answer is this:

You have an API account with GROQ, the thing you uploaded to NG is simply an interface to it. You are probably paying up to 0.70 cents per 300 tokens (whatever that entails).

So. Likely harmless to newgrounds and its users... but your wallet is another question entirely.

At 4/16/24 10:50 PM, tox wrote:to answer your question the game uses openAI for its server, otherwise knowen as chatGTP
https://chat.openai.com/g/g-JjX6lvJSt-dabirb-com-graphic-art-storyteller

and to that end, it violates the
It would be best if your game does not rely on any calls to third party servers.
rule

At 4/17/24 06:27 AM, guthrie wrote:

At 4/16/24 10:50 PM, tox wrote:to answer your question the game uses openAI for its server, otherwise knowen as chatGTP
https://chat.openai.com/g/g-JjX6lvJSt-dabirb-com-graphic-art-storyteller

and to that end, it violates the
It would be best if your game does not rely on any calls to third party servers.
rule

Yeah, I decided we should remove the birb for now based on this rule. As LLM use proliferates, there may be a future rule that allows third-party calls to SUPPORT the game, but the game shouldn't be 100% based on those calls in any case. Newgrounds isn't supposed to be a wrapper for your "AI" project.

At 4/17/24 10:22 AM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:

At 4/17/24 06:27 AM, guthrie wrote:

At 4/16/24 10:50 PM, tox wrote:to answer your question the game uses openAI for its server, otherwise knowen as chatGTP
https://chat.openai.com/g/g-JjX6lvJSt-dabirb-com-graphic-art-storyteller

and to that end, it violates the
It would be best if your game does not rely on any calls to third party servers.
rule

Yeah, I decided we should remove the birb for now based on this rule. As LLM use proliferates, there may be a future rule that allows third-party calls to SUPPORT the game, but the game shouldn't be 100% based on those calls in any case. Newgrounds isn't supposed to be a wrapper for your "AI" project.

Minor heads-up: Birb blew his lid in response to this, insulting you four times (1, 2, 3, 4) , threatening to leave NG altogether, and dumping his AI's source code in this thread (for whatever reason) in the span of about fifteen minutes.

Pretty wild to witness, I gotta say.

At 4/17/24 12:16 PM, Da-Birb wrote:

At 4/17/24 12:14 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 4/17/24 10:58 AM, Da-Birb wrote:

At 4/17/24 10:22 AM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:

At 4/17/24 06:27 AM, guthrie wrote:

At 4/16/24 10:50 PM, tox wrote:to answer your question the game uses openAI for its server, otherwise knowen as chatGTP
https://chat.openai.com/g/g-JjX6lvJSt-dabirb-com-graphic-art-storyteller

and to that end, it violates the
It would be best if your game does not rely on any calls to third party servers.
rule

Yeah, I decided we should remove the birb for now based on this rule. As LLM use proliferates, there may be a future rule that allows third-party calls to SUPPORT the game, but the game shouldn't be 100% based on those calls in any case. Newgrounds isn't supposed to be a wrapper for your "AI" project.

Minor heads-up: Birb blew his lid in response to this, insulting you four times (1, 2, 3, 4) , threatening to leave NG altogether, and dumping his AI's source code in this thread (for whatever reason) in the span of about fifteen minutes.

Pretty wild to witness, I gotta say.

Yeah its pretty wild that a creator be a bit peeved when they wake up to find their work wasnt blammed by the community, but instead deleted by the actions of a single moderator.

You need to chill. Not the end of the world. Ease off your vice and your crutch use of AI. Im making the effort to learn how game engines work. You can too.

You should learn to mind your own business and allow others that you know absolutely nothing about to express their creativity in what ever way fits them best.

At 4/17/24 12:26 PM, Da-Birb wrote:

At 4/17/24 12:20 PM, fe3l1ngsk1lledd wrote:Sorry if there is an interruption, but this is the place for reporting submissions, not for arguing and drama. Thank you for your understanding.

i wont shut up, till some one feeds me cheese

At 4/17/24 12:27 PM, Da-Birb wrote:

At 4/17/24 12:27 PM, fe3l1ngsk1lledd wrote:

At 4/17/24 12:26 PM, Da-Birb wrote:

At 4/17/24 12:20 PM, fe3l1ngsk1lledd wrote:Sorry if there is an interruption, but this is the place for reporting submissions, not for arguing and drama. Thank you for your understanding.

i wont shut up, till some one feeds me cheese

*feeds you with cheese*

Here you go.

) THX!

At 4/17/24 01:01 PM, Da-Birb wrote:Jesus fucking christ, eat my dick dude, your a fucking moron and you have no idea what you are talking about. i would love to see you create anything, your whining and misunderstandings have now gotten my work deleted. You legit have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Kindly, shut the fuck up, unless your going to use your brain to come back and make a logical fucking statement so that we can discuss. You just sit here and assume that i am some lazy fucking loser or something, i have been creating dumb things for over 20 years, and this is the first time some one has gone as far to remove me from the process, and not even allow my work to be judged by a community as a whole.

At 4/17/24 02:41 PM, Da-Birb wrote:

At 4/17/24 01:46 PM, gamejunkie wrote:I'd like to thank everyone involved in the last 3 pages of drama for making my birthday a great one. Sitting back & watching this drama unfold has been magnificent. Quality stuff indeed.

nice another mod in support of this bs, happy bday buddy

At 4/17/24 04:08 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:

At 4/17/24 03:57 PM, CarterSterling wrote:Today is one of those days where I very much regret turning on notifications for this thread, lol

Same. I have it turned on so I can catch new reports quickly, but damn if it doesn't mean I catch any and all drama that goes down here, lol

At 4/17/24 08:09 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:In the description, Birb claims to have been the owner/creator of the now-defunct shark-flash.com and claims to be its original creator, having submitted it under the name Mr-Shark back in 2007.
Part of me is saying Birb's bullshitting, and part of me says Birb's telling the truth. Its 1AM where I live, so if anyone else can investigate this, I'd be happy.
I need to get some sleep - I'll likely be back once this weird shit is over.

At 4/17/24 08:35 PM, CarterSterling wrote:

At 4/17/24 08:09 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:In the description, Birb claims to have been the owner/creator of the now-defunct shark-flash.com and claims to be its original creator, having submitted it under the name Mr-Shark back in 2007.
Part of me is saying Birb's bullshitting, and part of me says Birb's telling the truth. Its 1AM where I live, so if anyone else can investigate this, I'd be happy.
I need to get some sleep - I'll likely be back once this weird shit is over.

Everything matches up well, according to the archived user pages he was 18 in January 2008 which would make him 34 now - which is what Birb's age is listed as. His itch.io page is also titled krausunxp, which is pretty damn close to his second username mrkrahs. I personally think everything lines up.

At 4/17/24 10:42 PM, BickerySebastian wrote:First of all, the easiest way to prove that it's him all along is by using Mr-Shark's contact info, but they're mostly dead as I'm looking at it at 2015. Second of all, while it might be true that they're both the same age, it doesn't mean it necessarily proves it's the same person. Coincidences happen and a birthday is just a birthday. If they were born in the same day and month, yeah, it's believable they're the same person. ...Or maybe they're not and they just happen to be born on the same day, whatever. Third, the usernames. That's just dumb. Sure, it has "kra" but those aren't really evidence of a geniune person. Could be a fan or not, who knows. Maybe there's more to prove either side, but these aren't good evidence or maybe I'm too skeptical about an old NG user turning towards AI as a good thing.

At 4/17/24 08:09 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:Continuing on the topic of our favourite bird, I checked his profile and noticed he'd just uploaded another game:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/926403
In the description, Birb claims to have been the owner/creator of the now-defunct shark-flash.com and claims to be its original creator, having submitted it under the name Mr-Shark back in 2007.
Part of me is saying Birb's bullshitting, and part of me says Birb's telling the truth. Its 1AM where I live, so if anyone else can investigate this, I'd be happy.
I need to get some sleep - I'll likely be back once this weird shit is over.