At 8/8/23 04:09 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 03:43 PM, Aalasteir wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894471
Speedpaint.

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894485
RuneScape. Let's Play Video.

Did they really get deleted by moderators this quickly? 24 minutes?

At 8/8/23 08:40 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:32 PM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894510

Is this submission against the rules of the video portal?

I think a Mod mentioned Tom gave a pass on a similar video by the same user. Likely Tom will bend the rules for this one too.

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:43 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:40 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:32 PM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894510

Is this submission against the rules of the video portal?

I think a Mod mentioned Tom gave a pass on a similar video by the same user. Likely Tom will bend the rules for this one too.

But it's jut real life footage. How is it not against the rules?

To quote @Exedor:

So uh, leave it alone?

At 8/8/23 08:53 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:48 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:43 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:40 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:32 PM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894510

Is this submission against the rules of the video portal?

I think a Mod mentioned Tom gave a pass on a similar video by the same user. Likely Tom will bend the rules for this one too.

But it's jut real life footage. How is it not against the rules?

To quote @Exedor:

So uh, leave it alone?

I know it's Tom's site, but my question was not rhetorical.

I summon @tomfulp: Regarding toonhole's latest live action video, shall we effect the rules of the portal and flag it, or shall it stay per yours, and at the will of the NewGrounds' population?

At 8/8/23 09:10 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:55 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:53 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:48 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:43 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:40 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:32 PM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894510

Is this submission against the rules of the video portal?

I think a Mod mentioned Tom gave a pass on a similar video by the same user. Likely Tom will bend the rules for this one too.

But it's jut real life footage. How is it not against the rules?

To quote @Exedor:

So uh, leave it alone?

I know it's Tom's site, but my question was not rhetorical.

I summon @tomfulp: Regarding toonhole's latest live action video, shall we effect the rules of the portal and flag it, or shall it stay per yours, and at the will of the NewGrounds' population?

Man, I don't have any "rules." I was just simply asking why it's not against the rules, if some real life footages are against the rules, but this one is not. You don't really seem to like me at all though.

At 8/8/23 08:55 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:53 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:48 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:43 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:40 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:32 PM, MalwareShop wrote:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894510

Is this submission against the rules of the video portal?

I think a Mod mentioned Tom gave a pass on a similar video by the same user. Likely Tom will bend the rules for this one too.

But it's jut real life footage. How is it not against the rules?

To quote @Exedor:

So uh, leave it alone?

I know it's Tom's site, but my question was not rhetorical.

I summon @tomfulp: Regarding toonhole's latest live action video, shall we effect the rules of the portal and flag it, or shall it stay per yours, and at the will of the NewGrounds' population?

Man, I don't have any "rules." I was just simply asking why it's not against the rules, if some real life footages are against the rules, but this one is not. You don't really seem to like me at all though.

Being formally homeless I am predispositioned to not like people and can seem defensive. I am trying to change that but PTSD is a bitch and she wants to continuously fuck me at every opportunity. Don't take it personally. I have no interest in hurting your feelings, I'm just trying to direct you based on previous observations and I don't feel I am getting through, and I think that is where the frustration lies. Thus I am having to bring the other people involved in the decision to keep the video.

But let's examine your question:

Yes, the video IS against the rules. HOWEVER, based on a statement by moderator Exedor for Toonhole's previous submission --it is likely Tom will allow it to stay despite any whistle blown.

At 8/8/23 10:56 PM, SkProductions wrote:Hmmm if some times Tom Fulp bends the rules for certain "no animation" submissions then why are people reporting no animation submissions? is it because majority of no animation is like a repost from youtube or somewhere on social media.

At 8/8/23 11:32 PM, Exedor wrote:

At 8/8/23 10:56 PM, SkProductions wrote:Hmmm if some times Tom Fulp bends the rules for certain "no animation" submissions then why are people reporting no animation submissions? is it because majority of no animation is like a repost from youtube or somewhere on social media.

You answered it yourself: "sometimes Tom Fulp bends the rules for certain "no animation" submissions"

I will also point to this wisdom:

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:
To quote @Exedor:

Tom's site. Tom's prerogative.

The "no animation" rule is really there to filter out no-effort submissions that are better suited for youtube. Exceptions are often made for videos where it's obvious that the creator actually spent time and effort making something that's relevant to the community.

At 8/8/23 08:53 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:48 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:43 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:40 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:32 PM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894510

Is this submission against the rules of the video portal?

I think a Mod mentioned Tom gave a pass on a similar video by the same user. Likely Tom will bend the rules for this one too.

But it's jut real life footage. How is it not against the rules?

To quote @Exedor:

So uh, leave it alone?

I know it's Tom's site, but my question was not rhetorical.

I summon @tomfulp: Regarding toonhole's latest live action video, shall we effect the rules of the portal and flag it, or shall it stay per yours, and at the will of the NewGrounds' population?

At 8/8/23 11:45 PM, guthrie wrote:

At 8/8/23 11:32 PM, Exedor wrote:

At 8/8/23 10:56 PM, SkProductions wrote:Hmmm if some times Tom Fulp bends the rules for certain "no animation" submissions then why are people reporting no animation submissions? is it because majority of no animation is like a repost from youtube or somewhere on social media.

You answered it yourself: "sometimes Tom Fulp bends the rules for certain "no animation" submissions"

I will also point to this wisdom:

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:
To quote @Exedor:

Tom's site. Tom's prerogative.

There's also the upcoming Live Action Jam.

The "no animation" rule is really there to filter out no-effort submissions that are better suited for youtube. Exceptions are often made for videos where it's obvious that the creator actually spent time and effort making something that's relevant to the community.

At 8/9/23 07:17 AM, TomFulp wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:53 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:48 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:46 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:43 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:40 PM, YendorNG wrote:

At 8/8/23 08:32 PM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894510

Is this submission against the rules of the video portal?

I think a Mod mentioned Tom gave a pass on a similar video by the same user. Likely Tom will bend the rules for this one too.

But it's jut real life footage. How is it not against the rules?

To quote @Exedor:

So uh, leave it alone?

I know it's Tom's site, but my question was not rhetorical.

I summon @tomfulp: Regarding toonhole's latest live action video, shall we effect the rules of the portal and flag it, or shall it stay per yours, and at the will of the NewGrounds' population?

It's in a grey area because we generally remove timelapse art videos but because it has a structured commentary, is entertaining and is about the creative process, it feels like it would be wrong to remove them.

The goal is to eventually allow timelapse videos alongside art pieces in the Art Portal, at which point maybe these videos would reside alongside the art pieces they are about. Until then, they've been getting a pass in the movies portal.

At 8/9/23 06:55 PM, guthrie wrote:

At 8/9/23 06:52 PM, MalwareShop wrote:Videos get sent to the portal when their scores are too low. But what about images? Do they just get deleted if they have low scores?

Are you referring to the art portal? If so, there's no judgment process there - the scouting system is in place instead. So, art submissions keep accumulating their votes however good or bad it is.

At 8/9/23 07:12 PM, FilmCutterClock wrote:

At 8/9/23 06:57 PM, MalwareShop wrote:

At 8/9/23 06:55 PM, guthrie wrote:

At 8/9/23 06:52 PM, MalwareShop wrote:Videos get sent to the portal when their scores are too low. But what about images? Do they just get deleted if they have low scores?

Are you referring to the art portal? If so, there's no judgment process there - the scouting system is in place instead. So, art submissions keep accumulating their votes however good or bad it is.

So art images cannot be blammed? Tox tried explaining to me what scouting is exactly, but I don't quite get the hang of it. If I remember correctly, it's about upvoting high quality images and stuff, or something like that.

sorry-i-buy-to-chips-want? That's what it sounds like to me when I read this.

At 8/9/23 07:02 PM, guthrie wrote:

At 8/9/23 06:57 PM, MalwareShop wrote:Tox tried explaining to me what scouting is exactly, but I don't quite get the hang of it. If I remember correctly, it's about upvoting high quality images and stuff, or something like that.

You should read @Ornery's news post about scouting. It should answer all of the questions you have about the system.

https://ornery.newgrounds.com/news/post/388624

At 8/9/23 07:02 PM, guthrie wrote:

At 8/9/23 06:57 PM, MalwareShop wrote:Tox tried explaining to me what scouting is exactly, but I don't quite get the hang of it. If I remember correctly, it's about upvoting high quality images and stuff, or something like that.

At 8/9/23 09:24 PM, Exedor wrote:

At 8/9/23 07:02 PM, guthrie wrote:

At 8/9/23 06:57 PM, MalwareShop wrote:Tox tried explaining to me what scouting is exactly, but I don't quite get the hang of it. If I remember correctly, it's about upvoting high quality images and stuff, or something like that.

You should read @Ornery's news post about scouting. It should answer all of the questions you have about the system.

https://ornery.newgrounds.com/news/post/388624