
At 8/11/23 09:02 PM, BickerySebastian wrote:At 8/11/23 08:18 PM, MalwareShop wrote:But are his submissions really not against the rules? It's not just simply provocative, but racist too....So exactly which submission contains the supposed racist material? I wouldn't just flag it on the basis of "I think it's racist" because it sounds like something more like a White Savior Complex, and I'm not going to dig through like the amount of submissions just so I can find it. It's a needle in the hay sack. The least you could do is just post the submission and then discuss with the mods whether or not the submission(s) in question IS indeed violating this clause that appears BOTH in the Movie and Games' guidelines:
Though there's a similar clause to this in the Art guidelines...
Except there are no similar rules to it in the Audio guideline so don't expect smooth sailing if you're trying to flag an audio submission.
So let's give it a go.
I am not outwardly stating that his submissions ARE against the rules. They are just suspicious. But sure, I may link a few of them. Disclaimer: I am not linking these because I want them to get deleted or flagged, or whatsoever, I will simply be providing the ones that seem racist.
This is a reference to George Floyd's death.
This video depicts a swat / police officer kneeling on a black man, suffocating him.
And for this one, the f slur is in the title, except it is censored.
Again, I am not posting these links because I am reporting them or anything, I posted the ones that I found suspicious to be breaking the rules. I hope you understand me, @BickerySebastian. I thought it was obvious what kind of posts ZabuJard uploads. Moderators, prove me wrong, if I am wrong.
At 8/11/23 10:41 PM, MalwareShop wrote:At 8/11/23 09:02 PM, BickerySebastian wrote:At 8/11/23 08:18 PM, MalwareShop wrote:But are his submissions really not against the rules? It's not just simply provocative, but racist too....So exactly which submission contains the supposed racist material? I wouldn't just flag it on the basis of "I think it's racist" because it sounds like something more like a White Savior Complex, and I'm not going to dig through like the amount of submissions just so I can find it. It's a needle in the hay sack. The least you could do is just post the submission and then discuss with the mods whether or not the submission(s) in question IS indeed violating this clause that appears BOTH in the Movie and Games' guidelines:
Though there's a similar clause to this in the Art guidelines...
Except there are no similar rules to it in the Audio guideline so don't expect smooth sailing if you're trying to flag an audio submission.
So let's give it a go.
I am not outwardly stating that his submissions ARE against the rules. They are just suspicious. But sure, I may link a few of them. Disclaimer: I am not linking these because I want them to get deleted or flagged, or whatsoever, I will simply be providing the ones that seem racist.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/888864
This is a reference to George Floyd's death.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/886496
This video depicts a swat / police officer kneeling on a black man, suffocating him.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/886399
And for this one, the f slur is in the title, except it is censored.
Again, I am not posting these links because I am reporting them or anything, I posted the ones that I found suspicious to be breaking the rules. I hope you understand me, @BickerySebastian. I thought it was obvious what kind of posts ZabuJard uploads. Moderators, prove me wrong, if I am wrong.
He's already had a few submissions removed in the past for similar reasons. For example:
https://zabujard.newgrounds.com/news/post/1372487
In other words: he has no plans to stop any time soon.
CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.
- they/she - 🏳️⚧️
Y'know how difficult it is to get online when your modem gives out? Purdy difficult. Lemme get caught up.
At 8/10/23 02:51 AM, Aalasteir wrote:This cannot be rated "E"
00:48 - There is a simulated intercourse scene.
At 8/9/23 08:46 PM, Kehmicle wrote:Adult Material rated as M
warning: explicit
Please don't post adult links here. We now have adult links with images posted in a public forum. They may not be A rated when you post them, but they will be once the rating is corrected.
At 8/11/23 05:20 PM, Royal-Harmonica wrote:ignore me if I'm being a moron but
DotArtClips
Please do not post about art (or users). You can flag submissions if necessary, or message a mod, but not posting here about art has been mentioned many times.
With that being said, welcome to Newgrounds. We have porn here. Many less-than-18-year-olds come here to view porn. There's no way to stop them without real age verification, and even "real" porn site don't do that very well, or at all. So, they rate high based on their raised um...novice...level of expectations. Okmovingon. In general, many people vote 5 and 0 and have forgotten that there are numbers in between. Is it possible that everyone voted 5? Yup. :(
As for the similarity between the posts, he has a game where you choose from different characters. They all have the same basic animations; it's just the features that change to turn the same animation from one character to another. Boring and lazy? Yup.
At 8/11/23 08:13 PM, MalwareShop wrote:I would want to talk about ZabuJard.
He's our resident low-effort troll, who we allow to live under the Newgrounds bridge near 2nd street. We occasionally are required to deal with some of his submissions, but if you see any submission with any age to it, assume we've reviewed it and move on. He chooses triggering titles to trigger weak, title-readers, and the actual content often has little or no offensive material. You have to choose to either put on your big boy pants and watch it, or to not watch it. Vote however you wish, tho.
At 8/11/23 10:30 AM, MalwareShop wrote:I am the same level now as Livecorpse. (Level 16).
Then why do you post so many Level 1 questions and topics?
Thank you, @Exedor. I will try my best to give warnings for incorrectly rated materials.
WARNING. Adult material in this link: .https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894867
Gameplay Footage.
Sound visualizer set to music.
At 8/12/23 12:33 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:At 8/11/23 10:41 PM, MalwareShop wrote:At 8/11/23 09:02 PM, BickerySebastian wrote:At 8/11/23 08:18 PM, MalwareShop wrote:But are his submissions really not against the rules? It's not just simply provocative, but racist too....So exactly which submission contains the supposed racist material? I wouldn't just flag it on the basis of "I think it's racist" because it sounds like something more like a White Savior Complex, and I'm not going to dig through like the amount of submissions just so I can find it. It's a needle in the hay sack. The least you could do is just post the submission and then discuss with the mods whether or not the submission(s) in question IS indeed violating this clause that appears BOTH in the Movie and Games' guidelines:
Though there's a similar clause to this in the Art guidelines...
Except there are no similar rules to it in the Audio guideline so don't expect smooth sailing if you're trying to flag an audio submission.
So let's give it a go.
I am not outwardly stating that his submissions ARE against the rules. They are just suspicious. But sure, I may link a few of them. Disclaimer: I am not linking these because I want them to get deleted or flagged, or whatsoever, I will simply be providing the ones that seem racist.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/888864
This is a reference to George Floyd's death.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/886496
This video depicts a swat / police officer kneeling on a black man, suffocating him.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/886399
And for this one, the f slur is in the title, except it is censored.
Again, I am not posting these links because I am reporting them or anything, I posted the ones that I found suspicious to be breaking the rules. I hope you understand me, @BickerySebastian. I thought it was obvious what kind of posts ZabuJard uploads. Moderators, prove me wrong, if I am wrong.
He's already had a few submissions removed in the past for similar reasons. For example:
https://zabujard.newgrounds.com/news/post/1372487
In other words: he has no plans to stop any time soon.
So was I right in the end about him posting stuff that are against the rules? What would you say about the posts that I have linked?
At 8/12/23 12:38 AM, Exedor wrote:Y'know how difficult it is to get online when your modem gives out? Purdy difficult. Lemme get caught up.At 8/10/23 02:51 AM, Aalasteir wrote:This cannot be rated "E"
00:48 - There is a simulated intercourse scene.At 8/9/23 08:46 PM, Kehmicle wrote:
Adult Material rated as M
warning: explicit
Please don't post adult links here. We now have adult links with images posted in a public forum. They may not be A rated when you post them, but they will be once the rating is corrected.At 8/11/23 05:20 PM, Royal-Harmonica wrote:
ignore me if I'm being a moron but
DotArtClips
Please do not post about art (or users). You can flag submissions if necessary, or message a mod, but not posting here about art has been mentioned many times.
With that being said, welcome to Newgrounds. We have porn here. Many less-than-18-year-olds come here to view porn. There's no way to stop them without real age verification, and even "real" porn site don't do that very well, or at all. So, they rate high based on their raised um...novice...level of expectations. Okmovingon. In general, many people vote 5 and 0 and have forgotten that there are numbers in between. Is it possible that everyone voted 5? Yup. :(
As for the similarity between the posts, he has a game where you choose from different characters. They all have the same basic animations; it's just the features that change to turn the same animation from one character to another. Boring and lazy? Yup.At 8/11/23 08:13 PM, MalwareShop wrote:
I would want to talk about ZabuJard.
He's our resident low-effort troll, who we allow to live under the Newgrounds bridge near 2nd street. We occasionally are required to deal with some of his submissions, but if you see any submission with any age to it, assume we've reviewed it and move on. He chooses triggering titles to trigger weak, title-readers, and the actual content often has little or no offensive material. You have to choose to either put on your big boy pants and watch it, or to not watch it. Vote however you wish, tho.
Oh, it doesn't offend me at all. I have seen things on the internet that I won't talk about any time soon.
At 8/11/23 10:30 AM, MalwareShop wrote:I am the same level now as Livecorpse. (Level 16).
Then why do you post so many Level 1 questions and topics?
Like what? I didn't use the forum up until now at all, so maybe that's why.
there were far better animations that we have taken down over this music
if those awesome animations can't exist, then neither can this !!! reeeee :p
Loona Wants You in Her Room (Parody)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llyiQ4I-mcQ&ab_channel=Vengaboys
At 8/12/23 06:49 AM, MalwareShop wrote:He's already had a few submissions removed in the past for similar reasons. For example:So was I right in the end about him posting stuff that are against the rules? What would you say about the posts that I have linked?
https://zabujard.newgrounds.com/news/post/1372487
I doubt it because these aren't really hard evidence. First of all, if these ARE racist as fuck submissions and the mods say it is really hateful enough to be taken down, then yes, you ARE right. HOWEVER, this isn't remotely the case. For starters, this is Newgrounds. This is a site that's open for all creators and it's not going to take down a submission just because it includes something like George Floyd. This is the very same site that has a cult-hit character that originated from a school shooting game. Just don't expect us to take it seriously if the violating submission in question uses the word "fat" or "obese" for "fatphobia."
Second, while ZabuJard's submissions has been removed before, it does not prove that these submissions were removed BECAUSE of how hateful it is. It's unclear to exactly why floyd64 was removed by Zabu's word, which, for us, isn't remotely helpful because in what way can you explain the removal with something like a Newgrounds Moderator being cringe? Unless there is a mod that confirm why it was removed, it's only an educated guess. When I played the game, which was like a total of maybe 5 minutes or so, I assumed the submission was taken down because of the assets that were used in the game were likely stolen, mainly because of the castle or any assets you can find in the game. Let's not forget that ZabuJard's content is very low brow, so there's not going to be original content, as in content HE made, to be seen or as prominent. Hell, it's one way it explains how he has the most abnormal amount of submissions compared to any other creators that are popular in the site. If he can grab porn images of Kim Possible because it's the most efficient way of producing more submissions, it's not out of the question that he would probably take 3D assets in the game for the same reason.
At 8/12/23 12:49 PM, BickerySebastian wrote:At 8/12/23 06:49 AM, MalwareShop wrote:I doubt it because these aren't really hard evidence. First of all, if these ARE racist as fuck submissions and the mods say it is really hateful enough to be taken down, then yes, you ARE right. HOWEVER, this isn't remotely the case. For starters, this is Newgrounds. This is a site that's open for all creators and it's not going to take down a submission just because it includes something like George Floyd. This is the very same site that has a cult-hit character that originated from a school shooting game. Just don't expect us to take it seriously if the violating submission in question uses the word "fat" or "obese" for "fatphobia."He's already had a few submissions removed in the past for similar reasons. For example:So was I right in the end about him posting stuff that are against the rules? What would you say about the posts that I have linked?
https://zabujard.newgrounds.com/news/post/1372487
Second, while ZabuJard's submissions has been removed before, it does not prove that these submissions were removed BECAUSE of how hateful it is. It's unclear to exactly why floyd64 was removed by Zabu's word, which, for us, isn't remotely helpful because in what way can you explain the removal with something like a Newgrounds Moderator being cringe? Unless there is a mod that confirm why it was removed, it's only an educated guess. When I played the game, which was like a total of maybe 5 minutes or so, I assumed the submission was taken down because of the assets that were used in the game were likely stolen, mainly because of the castle or any assets you can find in the game. Let's not forget that ZabuJard's content is very low brow, so there's not going to be original content, as in content HE made, to be seen or as prominent. Hell, it's one way it explains how he has the most abnormal amount of submissions compared to any other creators that are popular in the site. If he can grab porn images of Kim Possible because it's the most efficient way of producing more submissions, it's not out of the question that he would probably take 3D assets in the game for the same reason.
"Just don't expect us to take it seriously if the violating submission in question uses the word "fat" or "obese" for "fatphobia."" Do you really think I would those submissions seriously, and report it here? Come on dude... I can't be arsed to continue this conversation any longer.
Okay, double up, but not so fast.
I don't know about this submission. I suspect it's nothing the author made because it feels like a meme, but unless someone out there knows the original source of this, or at the very least, something that has been reposted before in any other social media platform, I can't really report this.
This submission, however, IS recorded footage of a app that's called Little Buddy Move, which is sorta like Incredibox but I digress.
At 8/12/23 12:38 AM, Exedor wrote:At 8/9/23 08:46 PM, Kehmicle wrote:Adult Material rated as MPlease don't post adult links here. We now have adult links with images posted in a public forum. They may not be A rated when you post them, but they will be once the rating is corrected.
warning: explicit
Just because I have to keep fielding this question for people when they ask me through PM's...
What did Exedor mean by "Please don't post adult links here. We now have adult links with images posted in a public forum. They may not be A rated when you post them, but they will be once the rating is corrected."
Which forum do we use for adult content flagging?
we use the EGB to post these links but we do so by doing this:
(non adult content links because that would be rude)
examples:
(description of the rule violation or message that you the posting user would say to speak about the violation + any other properly shielded supporting links)
.https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/862488
(description of the rule violation or message that you the posting user would say to speak about the violation + any other properly shielded supporting links)
adult https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/862488
(description of the rule violation or message that you the posting user would say to speak about the violation + any other properly shielded supporting links)
caution adult content https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/862488
(description of the rule violation or message that you the posting user would say to speak about the violation + any other properly shielded supporting links)
adult link 862488 Spooky Month - Tender treats
#1-4 are examples of someone attempting to prevent the full link from simply coming up in the EGB forum and showing off a usually adult-rated icon in text format.
If I were to simply paste the link inside of the message with no spaces or material before the link then this would happen:
(description of the rule violation or message that you the posting user would say to speak about the violation + any other properly shielded supporting links)
that is an example of someone who doesn't care and just posted the link, which is against both the EGB code of conduct and the Newgrounds forum rules
https://www.newgrounds.com/wiki/help-information/forums/forum-rules (line 9)
https://www.wkrconcepts.com/egb/index.php?id=conduct (line 18)
Exedor and for that matter many other mods + members of the EGB, do not want people posting links to adult-rated content or links to currently underrated content adult-rated content that will then be changed to adult-rated content later when a mod comes by and changes the E/T/M rated piece to an A rated piece. The same can be said for posting other supporting material/links if the content is proven to be stolen.
As Pingu once said:
Dont be a dingus
idc about much rn but uh
i got deity whistle now
woohoo
...
ok bye
At 8/12/23 04:00 PM, freaks-heart wrote:idc about much rn but uh
i got deity whistle now
woohoo
Congrats. Enjoy your deity whistle, I have had mine for years, and it's very handy. :)
ok bye
bye.
At 8/12/23 05:15 PM, Aalasteir wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894927
GEOMETRY DASH. Gameplay footage.
Funny about that; I did find this submission but I didn't wanna bump up more posts everytime I found a violating submission, because I rather not spam in this board, so I just flagged it and moved on to the next submission.
At 8/12/23 06:16 PM, BickerySebastian wrote:At 8/12/23 05:15 PM, Aalasteir wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894927Funny about that; I did find this submission but I didn't wanna bump up more posts everytime I found a violating submission, because I rather not spam in this board, so I just flagged it and moved on to the next submission.
GEOMETRY DASH. Gameplay footage.
I found it too, but felt it was within the guidelines and let it go unflagged - as I see it, the author had produced a machinima using Geometry Dash and uploaded footage of that, not footage of them simply playing the game.
As for issues of spam, I personally bump every time I see a submission I consider rule-breaking, so it can be removed quicker.
At 8/12/23 04:00 PM, freaks-heart wrote:idc about much rn but uh
i got deity whistle now
woohoo
...
ok bye
How much time did it take you of constant flagging?
At 8/12/23 05:18 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:At 8/12/23 04:00 PM, freaks-heart wrote:idc about much rn but uh
i got deity whistle now
woohoo
Congrats. Enjoy your deity whistle, I have had mine for years, and it's very handy. :)
ok bye
bye.
Woah hello there DoctorStrongbad, I've seen you a couple of times. The first time was when I was checking either the save, or blam leaderboard. It is an honour to meet you.
At 8/12/23 06:46 PM, MalwareShop wrote:At 8/12/23 05:18 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:At 8/12/23 04:00 PM, freaks-heart wrote:idc about much rn but uh
i got deity whistle now
woohoo
Congrats. Enjoy your deity whistle, I have had mine for years, and it's very handy. :)
ok bye
bye.
Woah hello there DoctorStrongbad, I've seen you a couple of times. The first time was when I was checking either the save, or blam leaderboard. It is an honour to meet you.
Hello, it is nice to meet you. Thank you for your compliment. You are a very well mannered person.
Still image with audio. No animation. Also, this is another false A rating.
Just a still manga image with text over it and possibly copyright music playing in the background. No animation.
At 8/13/23 10:38 AM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894958
Can I flag this as spam (gameplay)?
This looks like a recording of a Scratch game, but it's not like anyone is coming to Newgrounds for this kind of content. It's not going to pass judgment. Again, you should stop worrying about flagging every submission like this.
At 8/13/23 10:38 AM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894958
Can I flag this as spam (gameplay)?
Why is this another Level 1 question?
It's an submission that clearly is mainly gameplay footage, so of course it's a BIG YES. There are no exceptions, and even if you wanted say "But what about Tom Fulp," Tom Fulp wouldn't give immunity to someone like NEWSHOUNDS.
At 8/13/23 10:49 AM, BickerySebastian wrote:At 8/13/23 10:38 AM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894958Why is this another Level 1 question?
Can I flag this as spam (gameplay)?
It's an submission that clearly is mainly gameplay footage, so of course it's a BIG YES. There are no exceptions, and even if you wanted say "But what about Tom Fulp," Tom Fulp wouldn't give immunity to someone like NEWSHOUNDS.
Are you okay bro?
At 8/13/23 10:53 AM, MalwareShop wrote:Are you okay bro?
I'm fine, I'm just baffled how is this even remotely a question that required a post on this board due to how remotely easy it is to answer.
:This looks like a recording of an animation made in Scratch, not gameplay.
Wrong, it IS gameplay. The description states as following:
this is a video to help players who are playing the index
In case if you don't know, "the index" is referring to THIS game.
Conveniently, this is uploaded by the same author, but to be frank, I don't really expect people to know what IS "The Index," considering that it's just one of the more recent submissions in the portal. But I'm not sure if it can be flagged for not appropriately crediting Teckmo-X's song "Clockworks", OR it can via the Music/Stolen category as this song requires permission to be used under its licensing terms. But who knows if there's evidence to prove that the author did get permission to use the song...
[Yes, this was edited because I posted the wrong link.]
At 8/13/23 10:38 AM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894958
Can I flag this as spam (gameplay)?
it cant be flagged because the author is playing through a game that the author created directly
probably wont pass judgment though
At 8/13/23 12:01 PM, tox wrote:At 8/13/23 10:38 AM, MalwareShop wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/894958
Can I flag this as spam (gameplay)?
it cant be flagged because the author is playing through a game that the author created directly
probably wont pass judgment though
How come BickerySebastian says that it can obviously be flagged, and then you, a very experienced member says that it cannot be flagged. He proceeds to call my questions level 1 questions.
Audio visualizer. No animation
Still image. No animation.
Slideshow of porn images that the uploader did not create. The first set of images were created by BadgerSFM