At 8/27/12 06:06 AM, Jolly wrote: Honestly, it probably could. I've seen worse submissions make it through just within the past week.

Tell me about it, I think around 6 months ago I saw a simple (if crapply made) walking cycle get through. It was later blammed for having a low score but still it got through judgement.

Is this a gamegrow alt?

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At 8/27/12 08:59 AM, Decky wrote: Is this a gamegrow alt?
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/601835

Yep. They've used "growcpm" multiple times before, so gamesgrow it is.

And next question: This account. All of their games have that zombie logo that was working with/is gamesgrow, but none of their games have ads. Is it still shovelware?

At 8/27/12 01:27 PM, Zachary wrote: If the games are unique, then generally we will not remove them.

I'm sure I posted this somewhere a few weeks ago, but it's not shovelware until it's being submitted by the shovel-ful, right?

Also:

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  Escape the Basement

  by Zigurous

  You have been locked in a basement! Can you escape?

  Game

  111,149 Views

  (Ages 13+)

Nopey nope.

At 8/27/12 06:56 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: Also:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/601869
Nopey nope.

I don't see the problem. No ads, and it doesn't look like it's a 5 second escape game like those games2rule ones.

gamesgrow sure is persistent he does not give up why it is not right to keep making alts like that. Well on Plant Vs Zombies I managed to beat The Last Stand mini games, I have mostly beat them all still a few I need to beat. I have gotten really good at that game practice.Tthe game which looks similar is called Plant Juicer

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  Planet Juicer

  by yellowbouncyball

  Plants vs Zombies inspired space defense

  Game

  42,363 Views

  (Ages 13+)

Looks fun and its is free too!

At 8/28/12 01:20 PM, SCTE3 wrote:

also not saying he or she since as far as I know, they haven't made their gender known, same for gamergoogle and soccergamemanager

It's probably several people, to be honest. Chances are it used to be about a dozen, and what's left now are the ones that refuse to take the hint and put the alts away like the rest of them did.

(HNNNNNG AD REVENUE!!!11!11!!one!)

I know that someone said that when the whistle comes back you guys are going to leave abusive stuff up there for a bit so people can actually use it. Is this going to be the case as well with gamesgrow/shovelware in general? Because I thought that the idea was to have as few people as possible see it so the site doesn't get its precious ad revenue.

Known gamesgrow alt (modugames)

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At 8/28/12 06:50 PM, Spretznaz wrote: Known gamesgrow alt (modugames)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/601907

Any proof that it's a gamesgrow alt? That game seems pretty decent.

At 8/28/12 07:00 PM, Jolly wrote:

At 8/28/12 06:50 PM, Spretznaz wrote: Known gamesgrow alt (modugames)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/601907

Any proof that it's a gamesgrow alt? That game seems pretty decent.

Judging by their most recent submission.. that wasn't properly sized and had massive white bars at the top and bottom, sound didn't work, and was from a different site.. I think the submissions are actually stolen. I've removed both of them.

Also, even with the terrible English some of the shovelware accounts use, I don't think they'd put "hehe" in their description.

"it is a funny rabbit game , the rabbit have to run and take care obstacles on his way . though you are clever ,but not sure to pass levels.hehe"

At 8/28/12 07:00 PM, Jolly wrote:

At 8/28/12 06:50 PM, Spretznaz wrote: Known gamesgrow alt (modugames)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/601907

Any proof that it's a gamesgrow alt? That game seems pretty decent.

Not anything concrete, but they did submit some questionable stuff in the past in tandem with gamesgrow (I made note of it here.)

Okay, so I am apparently of rank to join the EG now, and I would definitely like to if I am able.

At 8/28/12 09:20 PM, Sectus wrote: Okay, so I am apparently of rank to join the EG now, and I would definitely like to if I am able.

Welcome.

At 8/28/12 09:20 PM, Sectus wrote: Okay, so I am apparently of rank to join the EG now, and I would definitely like to if I am able.

Took your time Sectus. I remember passing you about 18 months ago around the middle of the NGPD roster, O' the old times. Anyway, presuming that you get to the next stage of the application (which I can't see a reason why you wouldn't) good luck.

At 8/28/12 09:20 PM, Sectus wrote: Okay, so I am apparently of rank to join the EG now, and I would definitely like to if I am able.

Greetings, Private Sectus. I am Supreme Commander ByteSlinger, the Recruitment Officer for the Elite Guard. You are indeed qualified to request permission to join the Barracks - however, there are a few things you'll need to read and understand before we start, but don't worry - I'll be guiding you through the recruitment process. Here's how it works:

First, I will present you with the shortened code of conduct for the Barracks, along with links to the relevant FAQ's on our forums. You must read them, understand them, and post here again confirming that you accept those principles. A simple "yes, I agree" will be sufficient. This process serves two purposes:

1) Ensuring that you're not a "drive-by applicant" who asks to join and then never comes back, and

2) Ensuring that you know how we operate so there won't be any complications in the future, such as "wait, we're not supposed to be mass voting?".

After you agree to the code of conduct, the Barracks community will discuss your qualifications and decide whether to allow you into the group. Our requirements aren't too strict; beyond the main qualifications of 2500+ B/P and a Silver Whistle or better, we'll be looking for sufficient post quality (low number of one-liners, intelligent posts that contribute to the topic), helpful reviews, any potentially problematic flashes, stuff like that. After discussion and a vote, we'll make the final call and PM you with the results. Assuming that no objections are raised, the process usually takes a week (or so)

Here is our abbreviated Code of Conduct. Read it, learn it, and post again with confirmation of your understanding. If you can't abide by these principles, say so.

*****

1. Voting fairly.

This is the foundation of the Elite Guard Barracks. All members are expected to give every flash a fair vote, regardless of who made it or what their group affiliations are. We do not target any flash group, not favorably or in opposition; our only enemies are those who break the rules of the site, not those who merely bend them.

Everyone has a different definition of quality, and all members are expected to vote based on what they honestly feel a flash deserves, not on whether they think the flash will pass or be blammed. While Barracks members are proud of their high ranks, and are eager to compete with others, a high B/P score means nothing if achieved through petty point-whore voting, and any member who admits to doing so will be removed from the organization.

2. Stopping Portal abuse.

Numerous stolen, malicious, and unsuitable flash are submitted to the Flash Portal every day, and it is our job to ensure that as many of them are removed as possible. Members are expected to report any suspicious flash to the Barracks, including any evidence or doubts that they might have; these will be discussed on the forum, and if deemed unsuitable, will be passed on to a mod for proper handling. Many of the mods belong to the Barracks, which works to our advantage.

Just as with B/P, Whistle points mean nothing if achieved through inappropriate means. There should be no blind rush to whistle a review that is merely suspected of wrongdoing; it's better to let an uncertain case go by rather than wrongly whistle a borderline review.

In the case of a beyond-reasonable-doubt rulebreaking flash, members are encouraged to share their results with the Newgrounds Police Department and the Newgrounds Department of Defense.

3. Cleaning up the review system.

Members are expected to be familiar with the review guidelines and whistle abusive reviews when they come across them, and report severe cases of abuse to a review mod. Additionally, members are expected to write helpful reviews, offering constructive criticism and remaining civil even when the author refuses to do so. We must set a good example for other Newgrounders, in hopes that they will improve their own reviews as well.

4. Setting an example for others to follow.

Barracks members are expected to post intelligently, contributing to threads rather than merely dropping a one-liner opinion on it. Flaming, spamming, and other ban-worthy behavior is strictly prohibited, and extreme misbehavior will lead to removal from the EGB.

Members are also expected to act civilly towards all Newgrounders. You are expected to be helpful and patient when dealing with newer members, whether simply showing them the FAQ or explaining more complex concepts that they do not understand. Concepts such as fair voting, intelligent posting/reviewing, and keeping an open mind are essential for newer members to learn, and we are just the ones to teach them.

For those with more experience, you are expected to show respect and understand that they may, in fact, know more about Newgrounds than you do, even if you're a seasoned veteran. This applies both to fellow Barracks members and Newgrounders in the general population.

Members are expected to put reasonable effort into any flash or audio submissions, and be careful with who they become Portal Buddies with. We are quite generous with our definition of reasonable effort; examples of unacceptable submissions would be static images, single frames, ridiculously small loops, or purposefully bad music. Anyone submitting rulebreaking content would, obviously, be removed from the Barracks and reported to Wade.

5. Not starting shit.

As mentioned above, the Barracks has no enemies beyond those who break the rules of the site. Our roster has included current and former members of various flash groups, including the Clock Crew, Barney Bunch, and Kitty Krew, and we are open to anyone willing to follow our principles. Barracks members are expected to be civil to others and not start fights, and anyone found to be starting shit with anyone, even if they deserve it, will be removed. You are representing the Barracks with your actions, and if your actions do not reflect our principles, you will not be a part of the organization.

6. Remaining active with the group.

Barracks members are expected to remain reasonably active in the thread, as well as with their duties. Those who are inactive for long periods (months) may be removed from the roster at any time, and rollcalls are occasionally sent out to all members to determine who is active. Members who expect to be inactive for some time due to IRL reasons (such as school, employment, vacation, etc) should inform the Barracks in advance.

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In addition to the above, please examine the following materials.

The Barracks Manifesto
The Barracks FAQ
*****

So, just let me know, and we'll get you started! And, please, for the love of GOD, do NOT quote this entire thing! :-)

At 8/30/12 07:54 AM, byteslinger wrote: After you agree to the code of conduct, the Barracks community will discuss your qualifications and decide whether to allow you into the group. Our requirements aren't too strict; beyond the main qualifications of 2500+ B/P and a Silver Whistle or better, we'll be looking for sufficient post quality (low number of one-liners, intelligent posts that contribute to the topic), helpful reviews, any potentially problematic flashes, stuff like that.

Hmm, the Silver Whistle is a pretty steep requirement, especially since the main contributor to that stat, has been removed. For the most part, the Audio and Art portals have been really quiet lately. I know that review flagging does help the Whistle stat, but fractionally. How about a Normal (green) or better?

I'd be nice, sometime after they get the Portal flags back up, that the staff could take a look at this Whistle system... It's nice that there are many grades of good whistles, but only one of bad? Granted, it might help keep folks from trying to get the worst (Turd of the Day rings to mind), but wouldn't it be helpful if we knew how we're doing? Maybe a plus, minus or neutral weekly rating thing on our page might be a useful tool.

At 8/30/12 07:54 AM, byteslinger wrote: Our requirements aren't too strict; beyond the main qualifications of 2500+ B/P and a Silver Whistle or better, we'll be looking for sufficient post quality (low number of one-liners, intelligent posts that contribute to the topic), helpful reviews, any potentially problematic flashes, stuff like that.

Wait, silver? Since when did it change from bronze?

At 8/30/12 06:05 PM, VicariousE wrote: Hmm, the Silver Whistle is a pretty steep requirement, especially since the main contributor to that stat, has been removed. For the most part, the Audio and Art portals have been really quiet lately. I know that review flagging does help the Whistle stat, but fractionally.

I think the Art whistle is the only one that's still there-Tom said something about putting it in the others soon.

How about a Normal (green) or better?

The normal one's pink, the green one's literally garbage.

Pointless demo/ad

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At 8/30/12 06:32 PM, Spretznaz wrote: Wait, silver? Since when did it change from bronze?

A while ago. Since the B/P ratios have gone completely to Hell we deemed it necessary to find a different way to check for a member with the proper credentials. That's why it's called the "Elite Guard" - you have to be more than above-average in your commitment to doing the right thing in the portal.

At 8/30/12 06:05 PM, VicariousE wrote: Hmm, the Silver Whistle is a pretty steep requirement, especially since the main contributor to that stat, has been removed. For the most part, the Audio and Art portals have been really quiet lately. I know that review flagging does help the Whistle stat, but fractionally.

Eventually the whistle system will be reactivated for flash - but remember, you can still whistle reviews and build up your status. If you find the right string of abusive users and their reviews, and mark them accordingly, you'll get a silver whistle in no time. They're out there - you just have to look for them.

At 8/30/12 08:09 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 8/30/12 06:32 PM, Spretznaz wrote: Wait, silver? Since when did it change from bronze?

A while ago. Since the B/P ratios have gone completely to Hell we deemed it necessary to find a different way to check for a member with the proper credentials. That's why it's called the "Elite Guard" - you have to be more than above-average in your commitment to doing the right thing in the portal.

At 8/30/12 06:05 PM, VicariousE wrote: Hmm, the Silver Whistle is a pretty steep requirement, especially since the main contributor to that stat, has been removed. For the most part, the Audio and Art portals have been really quiet lately. I know that review flagging does help the Whistle stat, but fractionally.

Eventually the whistle system will be reactivated for flash - but remember, you can still whistle reviews and build up your status. If you find the right string of abusive users and their reviews, and mark them accordingly, you'll get a silver whistle in no time. They're out there - you just have to look for them.

Last I remembered before you could even get whistle points for flash the admins would have to delete them, while flagging the reviews where the faster way to gain points back when we still had our whistles. When did gaining whistle points for abusive review get so slow? I remember when getting a silver whistle was a cake walk even with the updated (the 2007 installment) whistle system.

Almost makes me want to come out of retirement and put my old deity whistle to use again lol.

At 8/30/12 06:05 PM, VicariousE wrote: Hmm, the Silver Whistle is a pretty steep requirement, especially since the main contributor to that stat, has been removed. For the most part, the Audio and Art portals have been really quiet lately. I know that review flagging does help the Whistle stat, but fractionally. How about a Normal (green) or better?

I think most people get their whistles up from flagging reviews. If you got it from just flagging submissions it'd probably take ages, especially considering stolen and/or malicious submissions really aren't that common. (The last stolen submission posted here was five days ago)

At 8/30/12 08:09 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 8/30/12 06:32 PM, Spretznaz wrote: Wait, silver? Since when did it change from bronze?

A while ago. Since the B/P ratios have gone completely to Hell we deemed it necessary to find a different way to check for a member with the proper credentials. That's why it's called the "Elite Guard" - you have to be more than above-average in your commitment to doing the right thing in the portal.

Good move. I regularly only get 1-2 blams with 30+ saves per day, and some times that's every submission that was blammed that day.

At 8/30/12 11:42 PM, LittleWashu wrote: Last I remembered before you could even get whistle points for flash the admins would have to delete them, while flagging the reviews where the faster way to gain points back when we still had our whistles. When did gaining whistle points for abusive review get so slow? I remember when getting a silver whistle was a cake walk even with the updated (the 2007 installment) whistle system.

Almost makes me want to come out of retirement and put my old deity whistle to use again lol.

I don't really think it's that slow. I got a silver whistle on my alt. The only reason I haven't gotten it higher is because switching accounts regularly is annoying. I might actually start working on getting it to deity again.

At 8/31/12 12:04 AM, Jolly wrote:

At 8/30/12 06:05 PM, VicariousE wrote: Hmm, the Silver Whistle is a pretty steep requirement, especially since the main contributor to that stat, has been removed. For the most part, the Audio and Art portals have been really quiet lately. I know that review flagging does help the Whistle stat, but fractionally. How about a Normal (green) or better?

I think most people get their whistles up from flagging reviews. If you got it from just flagging submissions it'd probably take ages, especially considering stolen and/or malicious submissions really aren't that common. (The last stolen submission posted here was five days ago)

At 8/30/12 08:09 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 8/30/12 06:32 PM, Spretznaz wrote: Wait, silver? Since when did it change from bronze?

A while ago. Since the B/P ratios have gone completely to Hell we deemed it necessary to find a different way to check for a member with the proper credentials. That's why it's called the "Elite Guard" - you have to be more than above-average in your commitment to doing the right thing in the portal.

I remember when the whistle wasn't even a requirement for the EGB. When I first joined all you needed was to be an Elite guard private or higher to get in. Even though I was the whistle officer back then things changed since I was in this club lol.

Good move. I regularly only get 1-2 blams with 30+ saves per day, and some times that's every submission that was blammed that day.

Lol There are some days you don't get blam points at all. I swear with the voting habits of users you might as well call everyday clockday since it now seems like it. (Which means nothing is getting blammed while everything submitted seemed to pass even when it should get blammed.)

At 8/30/12 11:42 PM, LittleWashu wrote: Last I remembered before you could even get whistle points for flash the admins would have to delete them, while flagging the reviews where the faster way to gain points back when we still had our whistles. When did gaining whistle points for abusive review get so slow? I remember when getting a silver whistle was a cake walk even with the updated (the 2007 installment) whistle system.

Almost makes me want to come out of retirement and put my old deity whistle to use again lol.

I don't really think it's that slow. I got a silver whistle on my alt. The only reason I haven't gotten it higher is because switching accounts regularly is annoying. I might actually start working on getting it to deity again.

It has been ages since I got my Deity whistle as well, If I had the time I did I would ask for membership again and help fight to keep the portal clean, but then again I don't vote to protect anything.

No angry birds allowed, right?

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Right, I accept all terms and regulations as listed by the Elite Guard Barracks. I will do my best to demonstrate my capabilities not only as a member of the EGB, but as an NG member as well.

I would HOPE I know about not mass voting, and blamming flashes that don't deserve it. Being a Portal Moderator should allow me to be more of a help in the group as well.

At 8/30/12 06:32 PM, Spretznaz wrote: I think the Art whistle is the only one that's still there-Tom said something about putting it in the others soon.

How about a Normal (green) or better?

The normal one's pink, the green one's literally garbage.

Thanks for the elucidation, one and all... the only time I catch sight of a whistle is when I'm on NG Log, and as for others, the new layout kinda doesn't show off your whistle. I usually stick to recent blogs as opposed to the BBS, and even there, it just shows your Level, join date and BBS post count.

So there is hope of a better whistle? I'll make a concerted effort to check reviews.... seems like I get just enough time to check Under Judgement stuffs, and leave the rest for 'later'. Time to rein in my recently revived stat-whorish nature - so what if I missed a few years of logged-in voting?

At 8/31/12 02:08 AM, Sectus wrote: Right, I accept all terms and regulations as listed by the Elite Guard Barracks. I will do my best to demonstrate my capabilities not only as a member of the EGB, but as an NG member as well.

I would HOPE I know about not mass voting, and blamming flashes that don't deserve it. Being a Portal Moderator should allow me to be more of a help in the group as well.

Very well. We will now proceed onto phase 2 - the member discussion and voting process. This phase will let all active EGB members review your request, and then vote and comment on your application. We should have an answer for you in a few days.

With that, Will all active EGB members please weigh in on Private Sectus' admission discussion?

Thank you all for your cooperation. Now, get your vote in, and get back to the front lines!

That is all.

*Salutes*

Anyone notice the similarity to that "piggy landing" one from awhile back?

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Yeah...how about not?

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With that, Will all active EGB members please weigh in on Private Sectus' admission discussion?

"Your account has not been activated yet."

At 8/31/12 03:33 PM, Spretznaz wrote:

At 8/31/12 09:35 AM, byteslinger wrote: With that, Will all active EGB members please weigh in on Private Sectus' admission discussion?

"Your account has not been activated yet."

Argh, sorry man, dropped the ball on that one. I somehow must have missed the signup email that I get sent automatically when somebody tries to sign up. You should be all set now.